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When Do You Read the Instructions?

An anonymous reader asks: "I originally submitted this as a poll, but the answers I'm guessing, were way too long. However, I would like to ask the crowd at Slashdot: When do you read the instructions?" "So when do you reach for that instruction booklet? Do you:
  • ...research on the internet, in magazines and also pestering friends who own one, so you're an expert before buying said item?

  • ...carefully read the box and all of the instructions even before unwrapping the protective plastic?

  • ...study the instructions and the quickstart guide?
  • ...refer to the instructions and study the quickstart guide?

  • ...lose the instructions when throwing the packaging away, but study the quickstart guide hoping for the best?

  • ...look at quickstart guide when it's not obvious how to turn it on?

  • ...frantically search the instruction book after letting the 'magic smoke' out of your appliance hoping you'll find somewhere saying it's suppose to do that?

  • ...after it's been smashed to pieces with a hammer?"

135 comments

  1. Importance... by megaversal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Depends on how important it is... if it's for my servers that thousands of users at work need to access, you can be sure as hell I read the release notes.

    If I'm just playing around... that's it, I play around and look at the manual if there's a problem.

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    1. Re:Importance... by redcliffe · · Score: 1

      LOL, I normally install a new program, then when it breaks my carefully crafted configuration then I look at the README and Release Notes.

      And for the last time /. I'm not a cowboy, and I don't need to slow down!

    2. Re:Importance... by thegrassyknowl · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Do embedded help options (ls --help) count as reading the instructions?

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    3. Re:Importance... by Celt · · Score: 1

      For software I never read instructions unless I run into problems, same goes for computer hardware
      I've more or less never needed to read instructions for TV's, VCR's, DVD Players, Microwaves etc etc
      ffs there easy operate :)

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    4. Re:Importance... by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      That would be the quick start guide. "man ls" would be the instructions.

    5. Re:Importance... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      That would be the quick start guide. "man ls" would be the instructions.

      info ls actually. The GNU folks have a personal vendetta against man pages and intentionally make them as skimpy as possible.

    6. Re:Importance... by CptChipJew · · Score: 1

      OT, but man ls and info ls show the same document (at least on OS X) :)

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    7. Re:Importance... by Cmdr+TECO · · Score: 1
      OS X ls isn't GNU ls, so there isn't any 'info' documentation for it; info just shows the man page.

      OS X generally only installs the GNU stuff in cases like make where the GNU embrace-and-extend and all-the-world's-an-i386-linux crowds have make it awkward to do otherwise.

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    8. Re:Importance... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The GNU folks have a personal vendetta against man pages and intentionally make them as skimpy as possible.
      It could be worse -- it could be netpbm.
    9. Re:Importance... by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 1

      Except info has waaaaay better navigation support.

    10. Re:Importance... by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 1

      I bought a new component video cable for the DVD player recently and it actually came with an instruction booklet. (No, this was not a Monster Cable. It was the Acoustic Research brand.) How in the world do you figure an instruction booklet is needed for an entry level cable!? Yes, that booklet went into the trash bin.

    11. Re:Importance... by Detritus · · Score: 1

      I can think of useful information that could be in a manual for a cable. Things like grip the connector shell, not the coax, when removing a cable. Don't route the cable where it can be pinched, crushed, or stepped on. Don't expose to moisture or direct sunlight.

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  2. Me... by redcliffe · · Score: 1

    I look at the box, and then try it. If it's not obvoius how it works then after some fiddling I might look at the instructions. I've worked in a computer shop for the last 3 odd years and it hasn't failed me yet.

  3. objdump -d by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... and then I read the instructions.

  4. When it breaks by digitallife · · Score: 1

    I think the only time I ever touch manuals and instruction books is when something breaks or is bugging the hell out of me. Usually it doesn't help much either :)

  5. I never by Konster · · Score: 4, Funny

    I never read manuals, but I'd be willing to start if they started putting pictures of naked women in them.

    I also use Windows...no manuals needed! Plug and Play! USB! I never buy stuff from companies that don't have an 800 tech support number. Let THEM read the manual to me!

    1. Re:I never by Lamieur · · Score: 5, Funny

      Some of us are too shy to call vibrator-vagina-maker's tech-support... I admire you.

    2. Re:I never by MrHanky · · Score: 1

      If you're not too shy for that, you probably don't need one of those. Confidence is worth more than both good looks and hard cash, when it comes to chicks.

    3. Re:I never by mrzaph0d · · Score: 1

      hrm. i remember something here ./ that i of course can't find. but it was something about how the differences in cultures makes for different instruction manuals. i think the most "naked women"-esque example was either an italian or spanish manual for a color printer featured examples of nude photos.

      not sure though.

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    4. Re:I never by XO · · Score: 1

      Good looks and hard cash breed confidence, though.

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    5. Re:I never by KILNA · · Score: 1
      Where:
      Confidence = c
      Eyecatching = e
      Money = m

      Confidence is most important, looks are secondary, and money comes last... at least if you're looking for a woman who you'd actually want to be with right? You can always counteract being good-looking with a little bit of money, and a lot of condfidence. But you can't have more confidence than your looks, or you'll end up looking like an ass. So the equation goes:

      e=mc^2

      YMMV. It's all relative

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    6. Re:I never by yuri+benjamin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, but if you have no money, ie m=0, then no matter how confident you are, e will still be zero:

      e = mc^2
      e = 0 x c^2
      e = 0

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    7. Re:I never by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Using IE without a firewall is like having unprotected group sex blindfolded.

      That's hot. Are you trying to sell me on IE w/o a firewall or are you warning me against it? It's hard to tell really.

    8. Re:I never by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Using IE without a firewall is like having unprotected group sex blindfolded.

      That's hot. Are you trying to sell me on IE w/o a firewall or are you warning me against it? It's hard to tell really.


      If that's your thing, be protected. A condom now is cheaper and easier than penicillin later.

  6. When by floydman · · Score: 1

    I read the article, i am going to read the instructions.

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  7. Half the fun... by emplynx · · Score: 1

    ...is opening up a new box and figuring it out yourself. A lot of times if I'm installing hardware (especially USB), I see if the quick start guide says to install software then plug in or visa versa. But I definitely don't follow things step by step through the manual. I often look at the book when something doesn't work, but most "troubleshooting" steps found in support manual are so amateur that they are useless. I don't like to call customer support for anwers; many times I'll just post on a relevent message board.

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    1. Re:Half the fun... by TFGeditor · · Score: 1

      "...most 'troubleshooting' steps found in support manual are so amateur that they are useless."

      Amen. Nobody makes good manuals anymore, including program language software vendors. Seems most everybody now thinks "Help" is adequate. The only salvation is third-party manuals, which are usually frightfully expensive.

      My kingdom for a good tech manual!

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      Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever.
    2. Re:Half the fun... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The big one for me (on windoze) is to search the driver CD manually for the actual drivers and not the memory leaking, taskbar dwelling, MSHTML embedding, POS programs that get auto-installed along with them.

  8. #define instructions by kipple · · Score: 2, Insightful

    if you call "instructions" that small piece of paper that goes with the object, well, no I don't read them. They are usually useless - spending more pictures and pages for the dummy window (l)user, and not telling any technical detail. It's more entertaining to search for the "technical manual" on the Net, if there's any.
    The only case when I -very quickly- read them it's when I'm looking for the default password of a piece of networked equipment. which usually it's not even written down.

    cheers

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    1. Re:#define instructions by vigilology · · Score: 1

      "open source is like poker: would you trust a deck of card that you cannot see being shuffled, but you have to trust who said it was done?" Shouldn't that be closed source?

    2. Re:#define instructions by forkazoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Huzzah! I remember when "manuals" had enough information to write drivers, as a matter of course. Dot Matrix printer manuals used to come with documentation of the printer control codes, and instructions on how to make a BASIC program to do graphics, and such. Modem manuals used to come with full explanation of the AT command set and all redgisters. (And no, I'm not speaking in hyperbole, I'm citing specific examples!)

      Nowadays, you are lucking if the modem manual says "User are to make under installing the device apon application to Window 97 device mangler by demanding d:\setup with perseverance." And then repeating the same thing in French, German, Korean, and Afrikaans, so the book looks thick and informative.

      Old school manuals, I used to read cover to cover, excited to learn new things. New school manuals, I just don't bother, unless I don't have teh opportunity to use the device, and I am bored, I might flip trhough it while waiting at a red light on the way home, or something...

    3. Re:#define instructions by kipple · · Score: 1

      my example is closed source. I cited open source for comparison :)

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  9. I'm confused by MyGirlFriendsBroken · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Are there devices out there which are not operated by a hammer?

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    1. Re:I'm confused by thegrassyknowl · · Score: 1

      Are there devices out there which are not operated by a hammer?

      There are a few devices that are not operated by hammer. My hammer is actually operated by the liberal application of some device ;)

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    2. Re:I'm confused by Stanza · · Score: 4, Funny
      Originally posted by MyGirlFriendsBroken (599031)
      Are there devices out there which are not operated by a hammer?

      No wonder your girlfriend is broken.

    3. Re:I'm confused by Cuthalion · · Score: 2

      It's like they say. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like your kid brother.

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    4. Re:I'm confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is one of the funniest posts I have ever read.

  10. Always by beaverfever · · Score: 1
    ...research on the internet, in magazines and also pestering friends who own one, so you're an expert before buying said item?

    ...carefully read the box and all of the instructions even before unwrapping the protective plastic?

    Yes and yes. I always read the instructions. I wish everyone would.

    1. Re:Always by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pussy.

    2. Re:Always by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Why?

      I just got the motorola V551 to hook up with my powerbook. Surprised that it came with a charged battery, i asked the guy if I could test it out to make sure it worked.

      I learned motorola's phone menu system in about 5 minutes, and had it transfering files to my powerbook without even looking to see if there was a manual. I then spent about an hour at home searching the web to find the features I really wanted, and made the phone work the way I wanted it to, spent another half hour configurating the phone for me.

      I got bored a few days later and thumbed through the manaul, I didn't learn anything that I didn't know before and I new how to Sync the phone to my laptop something that isn't covered in the manual, and something that iSync doesn't work with.

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  11. never by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    readmes are for wimps; manuals are for girls.

    1. Re:never by djsmiley · · Score: 1

      Why did you post this as AC?

      To be honest im used to many many products not having any instructions at all now, due to the fact that the manufacturer KNOWS that people wont read them.

      Best way round this i ever saw was in the FF games, i think it was FF7 where was you played for the first few hours, it actually taught you the instructions. Only problem was there wasn't a way around it so every replay you would end up learning the same things again.

      I know its not possible for simpler objects like microwaves etc, or even most computer hardware. But somethings (such as TVs and Video Recorders) should make use of this i think.

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    2. Re:never by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      To be honest im used to many many products not having any instructions at all now
      [...]
      I know its not possible for simpler objects like microwaves etc

      Some GE microwaves have a help button that can be pressed in succession with another button. The digital display scrolls with brief instructions on each function.

    3. Re:never by djsmiley · · Score: 1

      Hadn't seen them tbh, but KOOL!

      Guess that kind of proved my point, for the first time ever, a valid slashdot comment. Rejoice.

      I gotta ask whats the adv. cost of one of these, im from the lowly UK and not many microwaves here have digial displays...

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    4. Re:never by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Around $200+ U.S. They have a bare-bones green character display, nothing too fancy, but still legible enough to read.

  12. Instructions should not be required. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If the user interface is well thought out and cleanly designed, no instructions should be needed to use the device (software or hardware) correctly.

    If you require instructions, the device is too complicated and is badly designed.

    The obvious exception is where the equipment is dangerous / mission critical / requires complicated user interaction. For example, cars have a pretty simple interface (at the minimum: a wheel and two pedals), but you need to know the rules of the road to use these machines safely.

    1. Re:Instructions should not be required. by harrkev · · Score: 1

      Sooooo. I don't need to get a pilot's license. I just need to buy a better airplane!

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  13. Difference between boys and girls by harikiri · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I remember reading somewhere that the reason boys and girls differ in their computer expertise (on average) is due to the following:
    • Boy jumps onto the computer, plays with it till he breaks some part of it, and is forced to figure out how to fix it.
    • Girl, terrified of breaking the computer, demands to be shown what to do before using it.

    Note: Yes this is a broad generalisation, but this is slashdot.

    Because the guys jump into using it so quickly, they learn faster through trial and error. The pace of learning with girls is a lot slower due to their desire to know how stuff works first.

    This has parallels with "reading instructions". From the large sample of friends that I have, very few of them (male) ever choose to read the instructions.

    Personally, I'm affronted that I even need to read the instructions (especially for consumer electronic items). In this day and age, electronic items (VCR/DVD/camcorder/digicam) should be usable by anyone who spends 60 seconds playing with it (think iPod). In short, we should not ever need to read instructions.

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    1. Re:Difference between boys and girls by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I'm not so sure that they learn faster. They may pick up particular tasks more quickly, but they may also miss (I know I have) whole areas of function simply because they haven't stumbled into them yet.

      Reading the manual gives you the CD-ROM drive. Playing with things gives you the cup holder.

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    2. Re:Difference between boys and girls by Bishop · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And those of us who read the documentation, and aren't affraid to break anything, learn the fastest.

      At a minimum I will skim the docs. Even if the item is very simple. The item may use new features or have a different interface. I want to get the most out of anything I buy.

      The sibling post's cd-rom or cup holder comment is true.

    3. Re:Difference between boys and girls by liqnitro · · Score: 1

      I will have to admit when I got my first computer at 13, that was my exact experience. Cleaning the drive I had somehow managed to delete command.com from it then reboot, hillarity ensues. I also remember trying to fix it without anyone realizing I broke it. I did manage to actually get the thing working after I little effort, thank god, that command.com was in c:\dos. Although you say that is the primary way people learn how somehing works, I realize I learned more just by fixing problems that occurred during ordinary usage. I do agree, imterfaces should be so natural using them should be second nature.

    4. Re:Difference between boys and girls by mirabilos · · Score: 1

      Uh, I'm a boy and I even learn non-computer games
      such as Magic faster by RTFM than by just trying.

      Playing (under assistance) during RTFM helps,
      though. Watching rarely, even assisted.

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    5. Re:Difference between boys and girls by jaelle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, as a girl (more or less) I do a bit of both. Something very complex (like C++) I'll read up on it some first, then get in and break it. I break Linux distros regularly.

      It did take me awhile to get over a childhood of being yelled at for messing with stuff my brother always got to play with.

      Leave girls alone and give 'em tools, and they'll break stuff too!

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    6. Re:Difference between boys and girls by nine-times · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I'm not sure about the boy/girl distinction, but it does seem to me that the trial&error break-it/fix-it cycle does seem to be a better way of learning about computers. Probably all sorts of other things, too, but I'm quite sure book-learning isn't the best way to learn to operate or repair computers.

      First, because computers are so much about convention that they'll never make sense unless you just jump in and start using it. Second, because books so often tell you how a computer should work, but rarely give you much information about how it is working when it isn't working properly.

      That's been my experience, anyway.

      The big distinction is, I will check documentation for specific information. Like, back when there was no such thing as a jumperless motherboard, you'd check the motherboard documentation for the correct jumper configuration for the processor you're using. Beyond that sort of info, I usually figure it out myself or go for online forums.

    7. Re:Difference between boys and girls by RevDobbs · · Score: 1
      Playing with things gives you the cup holder.

      Bullocks... that hole is way small for a cup. More like a shot glass holder...

    8. Re:Difference between boys and girls by Webmoth · · Score: 1

      Because the guys jump into using it so quickly, they learn faster through trial and error. The pace of learning with girls is a lot slower due to their desire to know how stuff works first.

      This applies to relationships, too.

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    9. Re:Difference between boys and girls by kmactane · · Score: 1
      Like, back when there was no such thing as a jumperless motherboard, you'd check the motherboard documentation for the correct jumper configuration for the processor you're using.

      Ah, the bad old days. I remember well. Back then, when I was shopping for mobos, one of my criteria was "Does it have the jumper settings silk-screened on the PCB somewhere?" Because if it did, then I knew I'd still be able to configure it, even if the manual got lost.

      It wasn't my only buying criterion - or even necessarily the most important one - but it was definitely high on the list.

    10. Re:Difference between boys and girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't say that trial and error is a faster way to learn. I'd rather read instructions and do things right, rather than make a mess of things and then waste time trying to figure out what went wrong.

      Many times, I've saved myself a lot of grief by reading the instructions, they're there for a reason so why not have a look at'em ?

    11. Re:Difference between boys and girls by wapanesechick · · Score: 1

      I remember reading somewhere that the reason boys and girls differ in their computer expertise (on average) is due to the following: Boy jumps onto the computer, plays with it till he breaks some part of it, and is forced to figure out how to fix it. Girl, terrified of breaking the computer, demands to be shown what to do before using it.

      The real way it works: Boy plays on computer, visits sites with enough spyware and viruses to eventually crash the old computer. Older sister gets to spend 6 hours messing with MSconfig settings, calling tech support hotlines, and generally fixing the computer so the boy can eventually break it again.

  14. It Depends by Ann+Elk · · Score: 2, Insightful
    • If I'm buying something I've never used before (software, home electronics, kitchen appliance, whatever), then I: a) research it to death on the Internet, b) research it to death at the library/book store, c) research it to death by pestering my friends, then d) go to a store and make an impulse buy.
    • If it's something new to me, then I always read at least parts of the manual. How much of the manual (and how closely I read it) is usually determined by the complexity of the product. Did I read the manual when I bought my first USB pen drive? No way. Did I read it when I bought my first DVD player? Somewhat. Did I read it when I bought my first wireless access point? You bet.
    • If I'm upgrading something, then I may or may not read anything. Did I read the release notes when upgrading from Mozilla 1.7.3 to 1.7.5? No. Did I read them when upgrading from Fedora Core 2 to Fedora Core 3? Of course.
    1. Re:It Depends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm thinking I should have gone anonymous with this one.. *shrugs*

      Yes, but only because you used the word "poop."

  15. Study the instructions and the quickstart guide by u-238 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When you first get it, you're usually too excited to be bothered by a thick manual. The quickstart suffices for a while, while you fiddle around with it.

    But for complex gadgets with more than an on/off switch, and I'm talking things such as digital cameras, mp3 players and the like, there are typically more options than you could manage to figure out on your own, even if given the time. A lot of the extras in gadgets like these are harder to do than a street fighter combo.

    Take the time to read through the entire manual, usually while sitting on the pot, and aquaint yourself with all the tricks and extras it has to offer. There's no other way.

    1. Re:Study the instructions and the quickstart guide by fimbulvetr · · Score: 1

      I got my sony dsc-p10 about 18 months ago, and I never read the manual. I had it all down after a few uses. The camera with a P next to it means "panoramic", etc.
      This was my first digital camera, prior to this I've only owned a ~$20 35mm.

      My point is, I love figuring things out, and this was a piece of cake. Some people don't read the manuals just for the challenge.

  16. Not for common tasks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tasks are always pretty much the same from product to product. For instance: adding a USB peripheral, adding SCSI peripheral, changing a monitor, replacing a keyboard. Most unique tasks are OS based (eg. adding users, changing passwords). But if you're an admin or hardware tech, you should rarely need to read instructions.
    Obvious exceptions are default passwords are understanding DIP switches.

    1. Re:Not for common tasks by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 1
      I once had a temp gig valet parking cars. Did you ever try to find reverse in a stickshift with an aftermarket smooth walnut shift knob? I killed ten minutes cautiously trying up to the left, down to the right, pulling up on the knob while shifting, pushing down while shifting...

      The one that really killed me was a Saab. Who puts the ignition in the console between the seats? I began to think it was an anti-theft device.

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    2. Re:Not for common tasks by Howie · · Score: 1

      Hehe. Just spent a week in a rental Saab 95, and at the end of the week I was still scrabbling around the steering column before I rememebered.

      Apparently though, it *is* an anti theft device. At least on older Saabs, that's some kind of physical lock for the transmission. This was a shiny new one, and it seemed just like any other ignition key (aside from it's location) to me. I guess die-hard Saab people like to feel the lineage.

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    3. Re:Not for common tasks by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      Or to stop drunk driving ;)

    4. Re:Not for common tasks by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 1
      Maybe, although I might have found it faster if I'd been drunk.

      Of course, in a way I should have known. I used to drive a Beetle, and after you find the battery underneath the back seat, life should hold few surprises.

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    5. Re:Not for common tasks by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      With enough caffiene you can notice anything...I've been writing code for 8 hours, and it feels like i've been going 20 minutes...maybe it's the same with Gecko ;)

    6. Re:Not for common tasks by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      Oh shit...sorry, I replied to the wrong comment, that won't make any sense.

      Makes me wonder why car designers do things like that. I mean, is there a reason, or is there some guy in Europe that just wants to be an arsehole, and has to put things in different places when he has a bad day?

    7. Re:Not for common tasks by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2, Interesting
      In the case of the Beetle, aside from the common response that "They put the engine in the wrong place, so what'd you expect?", my theory is that there was a copper shortage at some point that made VW engineers allergic to wiring. How else can you explain the windshield washer, which was a tank hooked up to the over-inflated spare tire with a regulator valve preventing you from flattening the spare on dusty roads? It was elegant, in a way, but bizarre.

      Then again, for years the gas cap was in the trunk...

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    8. Re:Not for common tasks by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      Things like that explain why the Beetle dealership that I used to walk past everyday closed down I guess. But to be honest, those fords which replaced them aren't a lot better.

      I'll take a Holden anyday.

    9. Re:Not for common tasks by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but they put the steering wheel in the wrong place!

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    10. Re:Not for common tasks by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      I take it you live in the US?

    11. Re:Not for common tasks by belmolis · · Score: 1

      I think its really important to check out the controls of a vehicle you're not familiar with. It bothers me that rentals never have the manual. You don't want to be driving in bad weather and have to mess around trying to get the defroster or the windshield wipers working.

      When I was 19 I had an experience that taught me not to start driving an unfamiliar vehicle without checking it out. I was working for a guy whose business was in Dijon (France) but who lived way out in the country, over an hour away. One he rented a car and I had to drive it from Dijon to his country place. I was supposed to follow his brother-in-law, who drove like a bat out of hell on narrow, winding, country roads. It was all I could do to keep up with him. After a while, it began to get dark. I tried to turn on the headlights, but couldn't figure out how. Finally I just leaned on the horn until I got the other guy's attention and then gradually slowed down and got him to show me how to turn on the headlights. Ever since then, I've made a point of making sure I know how the important controls work before I head out.

      The weirdest thing I've ever encountered is the gearshift on the Deux Chevaux. (For Americans, this is the French equivalent of the Volkswagen, a small, low-powered, cheap car that just about anybody could afford. I think that it has never been legal to import them into the US because their light construction didn't meet US safety standards.) The shift lever goes in and out of the dashboard. You rotate it to get additional positions.

    12. Re:Not for common tasks by marc_gerges · · Score: 1

      The reason is that a lock between the seats has a lower chance of rearranging your right knee in case of an accident.

      That was the reasoning in the 'good old times' anyways. I guess with seat belt tensioners and airbags it's less of an issue.

  17. The answer is simple by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

    when Cowboy Neal tells me to!

  18. problems by PerlDudeXL · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If I have problems with some specific hardware I look into the manual or if I need some tech-specs
    like horizonal or vertical frequencies of a monitor. Most of the time those QuickStart guides
    are useless for be because they focus on setting up the hardware in windows environments.

    I bought a new TFT Flatscreen and the manual was provided on a CD. My luck was that the screen
    accepted my XOrg settings and worked right out of the box. The manual itself was a set of html pages
    that didn't work under linux using firefox due to some hardcoded uppercase filenames (probably javascript)
    that couldn't be found. If instruction manuals are provided only on CD - please as a PDF.

  19. Magic Smoke (no not that kind) by AdiBean · · Score: 2, Funny

    I read the directions once I've let the magic smoke out of the device in question. You see, all electronics works on magic smoke. This is easily proved by the fact that if you let the magic smoke out of your electronic device, it generally no longer functions.

    1. Re:Magic Smoke (no not that kind) by XO · · Score: 1

      Yes, and the easiest way to do this is by supplying too much voltage, causing the magic smoke to get really agitated and look for a new device.

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
  20. Depends. by Firehawke · · Score: 1

    Depends on the product, really.

    For the wireless router I picked up, I looked long enough through the manual to pick up the configuration address for my browser-- I already knew how to set it up otherwise.

    For my recent motherboard upgrade, I checked the manual thoroughly to make sure there weren't going to be any surprises on the compatibility front, especially with RAM.

    For videogames, I typically check the story section, a quick glance at the controls, and a quick glance over the weapons, with a later full-readthrough when I decide to see if there's anything I've missed. MGS3, which I picked up at launch, is a great example of such. I checked the CQC stuff in the manual, but I knew enough about the rest of the game from the previous games and demo to have no problems.

    So, all in all I typically avoid using the manual unless I have to, but I don't hesitate to use it at that point.

    1. Re:Depends. by usernotfound · · Score: 1

      i would try 192.168.0.1 and .1.1, and if that doesn't work, i've either gotten a lame router, or something that requires my cisco training (now THAT was a large manual)

      --
      You call it excessive, I call it ambitious.
  21. I read instructions every day by ramunas · · Score: 1

    I translate them :)

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    1. Re:I read instructions every day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now how can we believe that.
      the above comment is clearly understandable english.

  22. manual? by mongolian · · Score: 1

    Read the manual? I'm sorry, Manuel is not home now.

  23. never read instructions unless I run into problems by da5idnetlimit.com · · Score: 1

    This goes under :

    Reading the instructions...only when everything else has failed... 8p

    --
    It takes 40+ muscles to frown, but only four to extend your arm and bitchslap the motherfucker
  24. Depends on the thing... by Howie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I'm looking for something for a very specific purpose, and there's a particular feature I want ot be really sure is going to work how I want, then I won't buy without being able to download the manual beforehand. I recently bought a Pioneer AV amp, and wanted to be clear on whether it *really* had 3 digital ins, or 1 and 1 you could switch from optical to electrical, for example.

    Other things only get the manuals read when I'm either really bored or really stuck. I've never read the manual for my original ipod (it was a mac-only CD, and I didn't have a mac, from memory, so I couldn't even if I wanted to).

    It's worth pointing out that I do suffer from a case of 'I wish I'd known it could do that' every few months as a result.

    My VW Golf has a wierd hidden feature that I don't think you'd ever be able to find without reading the manual - you can change the period of the intermittent wipe, but there's not explicit control for it. You turn it on, wait, then off, then back on again. The length of the wait becomes the delay between wipes. It's kind of clever when you know about it, but it's pretty poor UI that you would never guess it. Then again, the Mercedes-style wall-o-buttons isn't so great either.

    --
    "don't fall into the fallacy of believing that Perl can solve social problems. Maybe Perl 6 can, but that's a ways off"
  25. I do now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As I get older, I find my confidence gives way to caution. I just bought a new soldering iron. I've been in electronics for over 20 years. What could be simpler than a soldering iron?
    Of course I got it to melt solder, but reading the manual showed me two things I wouldn't have picked up otherwise.
    1) There's a hard limit to the temperature you can set by using a hex wrench and adjusting a 'ring' around the knob.
    2) The sponge has a hole in the middle. I just assumed it was for solder to fall into the holder, but you are supposed to use the piece from the center as a wick to draw water from the bottom and keep the sponge wet. Neat.

  26. Only when by Jebediah21 · · Score: 1

    Only when I can't get the device working or I want to fully understand what can be done with it.

    --

    Everytime you look at porn a devil gets their horns.
  27. Rarely. by pi_rules · · Score: 1

    Only if it'll get me fired if I screw up or killed.

    Expensive hardware comes in at work? Yeah, I'll read the instructions (I don't do that type of stuff much though).

    New gun? Yep, read the instructions. Unless I already have one just like it.

    1. Re:Rarely. by JohnFluxx · · Score: 1

      damn bosses - firing you for getting killed.

    2. Re:Rarely. by Detritus · · Score: 1

      Gun manuals can be ridiculous. I blame the lawyers. They enumerate every possible way that you could intentionally or unintentionally hurt someone/something, and tell you "DANGER: DO NOT PULL TRIGGER WHILE MUZZLE IS POINTED AT YOUR HEAD" and other such gems of gun safety. They stop just short of telling you to disassemble the gun and scatter its parts to the four corners of the Earth, otherwise you might shoot something with it.

      --
      Mea navis aericumbens anguillis abundat
  28. Safety by c · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If there's a potential safety issue (beyond just using electricity), I definitely read the instructions. You don't assemble and use something involving exposed chunks of metal spinning at thousands of RPMs without reading unless you've got a deathwish. That means power tools, small engines, etc. Ignore the safety sections of the manuals, though. That's always generic boilerplate drivel like turn off the engine and let it cool before filling with gas and don't touch the blade when saw is operating. The important stuff is in the assembly, operation and maintenance sections.

    I might read the instructions for expensive/irreplacable items, as well. Unless I don't own them.

    c.

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    Log in or piss off.
    1. Re:Safety by zerocool^ · · Score: 1


      If there's a potential safety issue (beyond just using electricity), I definitely read the instructions.

      Heh.

      A week or so ago I was installing some ethernet runs in a steel factory. The guy who was instructing me where to put things said "Mount it inside the PLC, right here. Be careful not to touch that stuff, though... that's live 480 volt, it'll make you dance."

      We also couldn't use zip ties - after a couple of months appearantly the corrosive environment eats through them and they break.

      ~Will

      --
      sig?
  29. on the throne by kcornwell · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I read instructions for nearly everything I buy while I'm on the can. The time required is usually enough to scan for anything important or interesting. The technical specs are almost always interesting, and sometimes I miss a feature that is not obvious in the product (think cell phones).

    1. Re:on the throne by geekoid · · Score: 1

      note:
      never borrow a manual from Kcornwell.

      --
      The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
    2. Re:on the throne by kcornwell · · Score: 1

      lol

  30. Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    > When do you read the instructions?

    What's wrong with Ask Slashdot? Here's yet another example of a question that can be easily answered using Google.

  31. I know it is time to read the instructions by notcreative · · Score: 3, Funny

    when the object has caught fire.

    1. Re:I know it is time to read the instructions by Drantin · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes. The other Magical Gas... Phlogiston.

      --
      Actio personalis moritur cum persona. (Dead men don't sue)
  32. pretty much pegged me... by Zarf · · Score: 1

    ...research on the internet, in magazines and also pestering friends who own one, so you're an expert before buying said item?

    Got me right off the bat. I don't buy often, I only buy what I know will work, and I have a full and complete understanding of what I'm buying before I do.

    Guess I'm a late adopter.

    --
    [signature]
  33. I've tried by bluGill · · Score: 1

    I've tried, but you can't follow them. Betweem being written in some language that doesn't exist. Sure it looks like English, but even in the most slang versions English doesn't allow the grammar used. As a native English speaker I'm often unable to figure out what is intended.

    That above assumes that the step is there. In most cases the instructions go from step 4 to step 6 without any indication. (that is the numbers are 1,2,3,4,5,6..., but there is a step 4.5) Often I notice this because I can figure out step 4 myself, and I know I need to get to step 6, but I'm not sure how to get there.

  34. two reasons why I do it by bagofcrap · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When stuff is broken, attitude being why should I spend my time figuring something out, if its written, in big red letters, "Don't press the big red button."

    The other reason is for non-consumer level gear. A Linksys router I would fully expect to be plug and play. A high-end Cisco router? perhaps not.
    A 3rd party microcontroller dev-kit? I had to look up the datasheet for the power regulator they used to find out what kind of power it wanted. At which point there aren't as many manuals written at which point its not really an answer.

    take that, /.!

  35. As my sig always used to say.... by Verne · · Score: 3, Funny

    Instructions should be read first, or not at all. Anything else is admitting defeat.

    --


    There are only two things in this world that smell like fish. And one of them's fish...
  36. What are these "manuals" of which you speak? by sakusha · · Score: 1

    Manuals? What manuals? I use a Mac, our software is always so well designed that it doesn't need manuals.

    1. Re:What are these "manuals" of which you speak? by badfish99 · · Score: 1

      Even if you need to move it?
      How to pick up and carry your Mac

    2. Re:What are these "manuals" of which you speak? by autocracy · · Score: 1

      As I say from my 4 month old powerbook: bullshit. OS X definitely has some stuff that us unix geeks would love to see written down!

      --
      SIG: HUP
  37. When do I read the Instructions? by Spock+the+Baptist · · Score: 1

    When all else fails...

    --
    "Oh drat these computers, they're so naughty and so complex, I could pinch them." --Marvin the Martian
  38. Huh? wha? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like that piece of paper that comes in the box of condoms telling you which is the business end?

    1. Re:Huh? wha? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully that's before "it's been smashed to pieces with a hammer". Ouch.

  39. Depends . . . by Dausha · · Score: 1

    When do I RTFM? I'd say the informal rule I use is 1) when what I'm getting into is unlike anything I've done before and the cost (typically) of failure is catastrophic, or 2) if I'm really stuck.

    What's a good example of the first? I'm not sure, since I don't typically read the manual. I would suppose when I installed Gentoo the first couple of times I read the manual. Now, I just use a checklist. Originally, building a system like that was totally unfamiliar and I was really stuck.

    When I was a kid, and computers were made of rocks and bits of straw, I tended to have access to games that didn't have manuals. So, I had to learn how the interface worked literally by pressing every key. It was more fun that way.

    I agree with the comment of another. Modern consumer electronics should be intuitive enough not to require a complex manual, or there should be an "idiot" option that takes the consumer by the hand and drags them through the process and tells them what every little thing does. Sort of like tutorial mode on CivII.

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    What those who want activist courts fear is rule by the people.
  40. Manual by liqnitro · · Score: 1

    Like most people here I RTFM as a last resort.

  41. Depends on risk to life and limb by 74Carlton · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My new table saw? yeah, I read the directions. A portable radio? no.

  42. Just long enough by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    to deterimine if I supposed to install the CD/software or hardware first.

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    every day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random
  43. Always by mirabilos · · Score: 1

    I'm always reading as much as I can as early as I
    can. This has saved me a lot of hassle (e.g. I
    never bought a "copy"-protected CD because it was
    lacking the "CD Digital Audio" logo).

    Of course, everyone else I know is even too lazy
    to read the quickstart guide or the less-than-1K
    BSD licence throughoutly.

    --
    My Karma isn't excellent, damn it! (And /. still does not get UTF-8 right in 2012. Wow.)
  44. meatspace work by BigBir3d · · Score: 1

    Last night I installed a new faucet and sprayer in the kitchen sink, and then went over and replaced the sink and faucet in the bathroom. You bet your ass I used the instructions (although the bathroom instructions were horribly incomplete). Most other projects (new chainsaw was the last one) I do use the instructions the first time. Messing around on my Mac; don't bother with them.

  45. My 1/50th $ by Fubar420 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Figured I'd share this one, since it's relevant to the topic at hand.

    I just bought myself a new digital camcorder, all the bells and whistles, natch. So I record a few friends and I outing to buy an XMas tree, and a few other things. So often, especially with complex equipment, how to do something is not always immediately clear;

    Want to turn on night-mode or light assist? Oh, you need to switch the camera to program mode, go into the menu and select the moon icon.

    Want to take still pictures? Move the dongle to the top, and press the record button. Cant do that? Oh yeah, we ship you a card full of sample images so you have to erase it first.

    You want to erase it? Just flip the dongle back to the bottom, choose picture review, and then format card.

    Now, its time to transfer the video off. Well, the camera has USB2.0 and FireWire (dv) output, but only includes the USB cable. Well, no matter, my mac's in the shop anyhow. So I plug in the USB cable to a windows box I found collecting dust, since I couldnt find USB drivers for the camera in linux.

    So when I plug the camera in, windows just stares at me. I read through the quick start manual, and it says flip to "picture" mode instead of "movie" mode. Seems odd to me, but whatever.

    So I flip it, and the software comes up, and says pick some pictures to download. Sure enough, lots of sample images, but no mention of getting my movie off.

    So I go back to the manual.

    And then, several hours of reading it later (could they have cut the esperanto section and included an index PLEASE???) I find a small one line comment hidden at the bottom of the page that discusses hooking my camera up to ANOTHER CAMERA.

    That note?

    "You will need to purchase a seperate DV cable to transfer video from the camera"

    So yeah, I play first, and then read the manual, and then post on slashdot how shitty the manuals are :-)

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    -- (appended to the end of comments you post, 120 chars)
  46. It Depends by R-2-RO · · Score: 1

    If I get home and don't have to poop, I don't read the instructions until if/when I hit a roadblock. If I do have to poop, the the manual may be used as bathroom reading material.

    I'm thinking I should have gone anonymous with this one.. *shrugs*

    --
    Thank you. Drive through. (:wq)
  47. Depends on circumstance. by TiggsPanther · · Score: 1

    I rarely look properly at the instructions unless something either breaks or I can't figure out how to use a certain function. But there are a few exceptions.

    • On the bus - If my shopping trip was via public transport (or someone else is driving) I will skim the instructions during the journey home. It gives me something to do - unless I also went to the comic shop
    • Unfamiliar stuff - If it's unlike anything I've got before then I'll read them so I don't screw up.
    • Research - I've downloaded a few PDFs of manuals of stuff I've not bought because it's the only way to find out whether they do what I want.
    • Games - Basic controls. The rest I pick up through play.
    • Some assembly required - If it's a physical item that needs putting together then I will read the instructions as my make-and-do skills suck.
    --
    Tiggs
    "120 chars should be enough for everyone..."
  48. Charging by charlie763 · · Score: 1

    I usually read the instructions while the battery is charging and I can't do anything with the device, but am too interested in the device to wait.

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  49. I always RTFM by ohmygod2 · · Score: 1

    Read the F!@#ing Manual!

  50. my $0.02 by compro01 · · Score: 1

    i read the manual when....

    the device is unlike anything i have had before.

    if i have time before i use the device (as a passneger on the way home from the store, on the can, etc.)

    need to find a techinal spec (moniter refresh rates, etc.)

    need a password/etc. (wireless router)

    if the item is a new game, i'll look through the controls/storyline/weapons list, etc, while the game is installing.

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  51. Computers, et al, come with instructions? by Mikito · · Score: 2, Funny

    Instructions, as in a manual of some kind? I would gladly read them if I could, but the manual always seems to be missing. I think David Pogue might have something to do with that.

    --
    Anakin Simpson: If you're not with me, then you're my enemy--ooh, donuts!
  52. me: by mattyrobinson69 · · Score: 1

    i never read instructions that are included with anything. As an example why, my gf's dad (i live with my gf's family) bought a wireless+wired belkin router.

    I waited in his computer room while he had set it up like he asked, incase he had problems. After 20 mins of following the instructions and installing software (why software with a router connected by ethernet??) exactly like the manual said, I had a go. I thought sod the instructions (he was following them perfectly because we both agreed on what everything meant).

    I set it up just like connecting any p2p LAN, and hellfire - it worked in 2 minutes. (all i needed from the manual was the ip address/username/password of the router so i could configure it.

    Instructions are evil. Have you ever tried assembling furnature (like a bookshelf or something) following instruction (if theyre even in english)?

  53. When it really matters, of course! by Raptor+CK · · Score: 1

    I read the instructions when it's mission-critical, when I'm completely new to it (first time DB install EVER, for example,) or when my brain's fried, and I care more about making it work than tweaking the hell out of the internals.

    Or, of course, if I can't figure out how the hell it turns from jet to robot and back.

    --
    Raptor
    "Procrastination is great. It gives me a lot more time to do things that I'm never going to do."
  54. Standard Faire by Telastyn · · Score: 1

    If the product is actually something that might not be intuitive [read: "enterprise" software] or amusing [read: RPG/strategy game] I'll generally skim through the manual while the product is installing.

    I mean, there's nothing else to do then...

  55. A Poem by Royster · · Score: 1

    Instructions should be read before.
    I swear it takes too long.
    So I read them afterwards instead
    To see where I went wrong.

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  56. how many languages? by Bazman · · Score: 1

    By the time I've found the section in the manual that's in my language, I could have fiddled with the thing long enough to have fixed the problem. I think my record is 20 languages in one manual.

    Baz

  57. EULApr0n! by Webmoth · · Score: 1

    Perhaps if they put pictures of naked women in the EULA people might read it ("just for the articles," of course).

    Then again, they might never get past the EULA in which case they wouldn't be violating it, would they?

    "By reading this agreement you automatically consent to be bound by its terms."

    --
    Give me my freedom, and I'll take care of my own security, thank you.
  58. Uhm, that one... by Tajas · · Score: 0

    ...look at quickstart guide when it's not obvious how to turn it on? Most things are simple, only time I look at the directions are when it has "insert slot A into slot A1 to slot B1 before inserting into slot C3 but after inserting into slot A2."

  59. Almost always by raider_red · · Score: 1

    It saves trouble later to at least scan the instructions. That way, if something goes wrong, I know my way around the manuals and can find things quickly.

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    It's good to use your head, but not as a battering ram.
  60. crash button by usernotfound · · Score: 1

    one of my ex's had an old mazda with a button on the gear select where Overdrive usually is. i pushed this button once while driving it, and the gas/brake/steering all locked up on me. how scary! apparently, as i found out after reading the manual, this button locks things up as an anti-theft mode for when your car is parked. there was no explanation as to why this button has an effect while you're driving. i now call this the "crash button".

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  61. after letting the magic smoke out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Usually I only read the instructions before sending something for warranty service so I know what not to admit to having done.

  62. Mozilla Guidebooks by Dmitri_Yuriescu · · Score: 1

    I considered buying one of those. Not that I'm in particular doubt of anything but I thought they might be funny to have. And a way to support them.

    But when I'd read them, I don't know!? When I got them I might read the introduction.