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Linux Desktop Migration Cookbook from IBM
almondjoy writes "I was project leader for publication of this recent IBM Redbook, available for free download here: Linux Client Migration Cookbook: A Practical Planning and Implementation Guide for Migrating to Desktop Linux. At this point, I'm gathering input for what we could improve on, and what additional topics should be covered in a second version of the book. I realize this is a broad topic to cover in a rapidly changing environment. And because these books are developed by IBM there are some content limitations. Nonetheless, in the next version we want to continue making the book as useful as possible for anyone considering a migration to Linux on the desktop."
Preheat the oven and wait 2 years?
HHOS, we are looking into this at work for a corporate desktop and there are some serious issues.
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well thats a LFA (long fucking artical)
for the couple of pages I read, it's a pretty nice book.
A quick scan of it shows that it's relativly simple (It had pictures!). And seemed easy to understand. But it seems a bit too much for the average user. I mean it feels a bit like preaching to the choir. The guide will be most popular among people that already have the ability and desire to move to linux, not necesarily the average joe who is dipping his feet in the water to explore.
Just a boy doing unproffesional IT work that's way above his head.
That's funny. Your statement has a hint of to the fact the IBM is a consultant company it will say whatever to take your money.
"I'd like to see IBM endorse the Linux desktop as a solution"
By selling off their desktop business they've dodged the bullet of having to spend their own resources supporting Linux on the desktop. Now they get paid to do so on someone else's hardware.
Because it dicovered that desktop multiplication is far more effective in producing high numbers of desktops.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
Step 1: Don't tell SCO.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
Now, what can IBM do?
The answer is obvious. Enter the Linux desktop market; its margins are still relatively fat. The software is free, so IBM can low ball the price and still sell a product that has nice profits.
What the Linux desktop needs badly is connectivity: e.g. AOL client. The #1 application on desktops these days is the e-mail client. A sizeable chunk of desktop customers still use a dialup modem. For e-mail and casual web browsing, all you really need is a 56K baud modem.
Unfortunately, Linux does not have an AOL client. There is a freeware version of the AOL client for Linux, but AOL does not support this particular client. When you are tech-ignorant customer, you absolutely need the handholding of AOL: America's Online service.
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IBM Corp.'s Global Services team is getting behind Linux on the desktop, starting within IBM itself, according to Sam Docknevich, Linux and grid services executive for IBM. About 14,000 IBM employees use Linux desktops at the present time, and that number will grow to about 50,000 or 60,000 by next year, he estimated.
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http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/11/10
And do they mention that migrating must be done in december - show the users xsnow and they'll forget windows in a second...
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Thanks for the advice.
>And because these books are developed by IBM there are some content limitations.
Please refine further what you mean by that.
"Piter, too, is dead."
What utter nonsense. IBM has decided to stop making PC systems (desktops or laptops). It has not decided to abandon the Windows desktop (read, 'software') market.
Generally, bash is superior to python in those environments where python is not installed.
How about a chapter entiltled "McAfee and Norton: Terminating Enterprise Contracts with no Hard Feelings"?
The one that gets sold on an IBM server with an IBM support contract.
Well... that *was* about a year and a little over a month ago. Maybe *this* year is the year of LOTD!
(You know, for some reason every time I see LOTD, I think it is somehow related to LOTR.)
"Unlike Secure IE, both FireFox and Opera do not support these time saving features. You'll need to start over with your Favorites and they will not remember your logins."
Ummm I thought FireFox imported my favorites but I have been using it so long I could be wrong. And yes it does rember my logins.
" They also both don't use industry standard displays, which means lots of new quirks to get used to!"
What the heck are you talking about industry standard displays!!!!
You are not a paid shill you just play one on TV?
See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
You want feedback on a book so you ask the folks at a site where they never read the articles they post about.
You're job is in jeopardy, my friend.
-Peter
I notice that you leave out the potentially greatest problem: Very Complex Excel spreadsheets migration to OO.org.
This, for most companies, and especially for financial companies, will be an enormous deal-breaker.
If the book is challenged on that point, then you will lose credibility.
"Piter, too, is dead."
It's nice to see The GIMP given some recognition, in that it is broadcasted as a replacement for Paint Shop Pro, which is IMHO fair to both programs. I'm glad they didn't say the same thing of Photoshop, which would have been altogether a bad move. The other choices (Firefox, OpenOffice) are predictable.
I'm not sure how I feel about seperating "Component Desktop Environment" from "Desktop Environment" from "Window Manager", but the seperation is arguable. (GNUStep! Whoohoo!) It's clear they're recommending exclusively using either KDE or GNOME, if the user environment needs to be tightly controlled. Fine by me.
*is run over by rotten tomatoes*
I don't think IBM is looking to bring an AOL linux client to the market. AOL isn't looking to support linux either. The OSS desktop needs something new, a new "killer app," maybe a variation of ITunes for linux. Unfortunately Apple has its own operating system. Frankly, I don't see much opportunity for desktop linux anywhere. Back to the drawing board.
If an office is serious about migrating, especially call centers, there has to be good software on the new desktops that can support VoIP phone networks. We are forced to use a broken implementation of Wine to get our phone software to work, and we are almost forced to go back to windows because of the proprietary phone network that isnt going anywhere.
Phone software is a must. If I had the skills I would write some myself but I wouldnt even know where to begin. We have to rely on one stupid piece of shit app that crashes consantly, and is barely functional, in order to log into the phone network. Whats worse, we are forced to pay for upgrades that contain only minor bug fixes. More often than not the bugfixes break other parst of the software, like the "LOGIN" button. Are there no open standards in place for removing the dependency on proprietary software for phones?
You are about to give someone a piece of your mind, something which you can ill afford...
Because they want you to pay them to MANAGE your infrastructure, not sell Microsoft licenses for boxes they make 2% profit on.
Smart move that Novell, Red Hat and others are starting to figure out...
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The huge impediment for us implementing a Linux or Solaris-based thin client system has been the relatively crappy support for media streaming (primarily ISMA-compliant MPEG-4). Yes, there are lots of MPEG tools, but most of these are libraries, command line tools (essentially for ripping/stealing content), or "players" that lack any sort of polish, instead prefering to have "sci fi" interfaces or such nonsense.
There is already a suitable alternative to the Windows desktop: Mac OS X. They get the whole media concept right.
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Release the drivers for all thinkpad components and chipsets - even a binary version should do.
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I applaud IBM for this Redbook. It is very detailed in terms of providing an IT Administrator the ammunition to begin a pilot project for a Linux migration.
I've never seen a great book for migrating to Linux on the desktop for enterprise users. What really sets this book apart is its discussion on the ability to move Linux to the desktop while maintaining Microsoft products on the server side. While most organizations start by adding Linux servers, and never migrate their clients, this provides a strong start point for desktop migration.
IBM is very committed to Linux. For most of their server products, like WebSphere, Tivoli Access Manager, DB2, etc., Linux is certainly a preferred platform. This book, and the sale of their desktop division, confirms that they're trying to dethrone Microsoft from enterprise dominance and assert their place as a Linux (and AIX) software and services company.
You might perhaps include under the Application porting information about things like cygwin, vmware, crossover office, etc. for running windows tools under linux (and the other way around, i.e cygwin). I am still looking at the document so you may already have this, but it would be really really helpful if you could include resources for converting from various microsoft proprietary formats -> some other format as well. I am in the process of migrating people off of an exchange server (and probably eventually totally off of outlook) and migrating address books, folders, etc isn't much fun.
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The greatest impediment to migration remains the level of IT knowledge in the prospective user base. My superiors make their decisions based on information (and mis-information) given to them by Microsoft based vendors.
There exists a compelling need to build the Lnux market (and awareness) within the educational community at all levels- if the book can tell not just an IT person, but also a non-IT person why Linux is truly a compelling choice, migration will make more and more sense. Students working on a Linux desktop will become the corporate users.
So, any treatment of the subject would be enhanced by an awareness that the younger users will become the older users.
I've got a cadre of students who have moved from Windows onto OpenBSD for educational purposes, and they are rapidly becoming advocates of open source and alternative desktop choices.
Don't forget that education is an enterprise as well, often deploying thousands of desktops.
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The reality is that those things do exist and are show stoppers. I was thinking the way to tackle that is to have a citrix server/farm for people to connect to for those apps that require Windows. Over time, you can migrate away from those applications.
This is a very thorough article and most likely will convince more than a few companies to take the plunge.
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So I jump to 4.7.2 page 82:
Section 4.7 titled "Un-migrateable applications" is about five pages. Are there nother red books, white papers, or HOWTOs that would fill this gap? I nominate section 4.7 to be improved.
IBM selling its PC Division isn't about its position as a PC vendor in the USA. Its about their position as a PC vendor in China. A market with over 1.6 Billion people, that has recently signed a Free Trade Zone agreement with some neighbouring countries that comes into effect in 2010. Its about IBM positioning itself to sell to 50% of the world population whereas Dell is just USA. You ever read The Economist?
I can give you my view, after been running Windows2000 on clients and Windows2003 on servers for a year.
/via SUS(Software update services), very simple, does the job.
We decided to move from Windows NT4(on both workstation and server) to Windows2000 on desktops and Windows2003 on servers last summer.
We have about 800 workstations and 15 servers.
We are 8 in the staff, and with very various experience/skills.
Migrating workstations was a fairly simple task.
We use RIS(remote installation services) to deploy Windows, just boot from a floppy, enter username/pw and 15 minutes later Windows is up and go.
We deploy our programs using ActiveDirectory, this requires MSI packages, me make MSI packages for those who hasn't.
ActiveDirectory hasn't failed once on us, I'm pretty satisfied with that.
Every settings the users need(My documents redirection, IE homepage, startmenu and so on) we configure in ActiveDirecty. Very clean and well working.
Patching is done
Setting up this system was a fairly simple task.
So far, if something hasn't worked as expected it has been hardware failure.
We haven't have _one_ malware/spyware case so far.
(No one run as local adminstrator, if a driver isn't working we fix it with ACLs)
As much as I like Debian(I run it myself, on all my (personal)production servers and ws), I couldn't imaging Debian replacing our system at work.
Those who are saying Windows2003/2000 is unstable seems pretty unserious to me.
If there's one thing wanting us to switch from Windows2003/200 is the yearly 1Billion bill to Microsoft...
(Please I'm not a Microsoft troll, but I wanted to tell you this)
Why? In my case, OpenOffice was comming along, but wasn't there yet, GIMP's development had kinda stagnated. Didn't notice any difference much from 1998-2002. I never got everything working under linux the way it should and my time to play with such things was getting less and less. For server side things I was switching more and more to FreeBSD and OpenBSD for stuff. When OSX 10.1 came along, it was exactly what I wanted especially on a laptop. All the hardware worked, no having to custom compile or write drivers. Plus, I had access to commonly used software such as Microsoft Office for Mac, Adobe, etc. and I had a Unix core that I could develop in PERL, PHP, MySQL/PosgreSQL, and use some cool mac only stuff like Final Cut Pro along with the iLife stuff. Hell I could even run Windows in a window if I needed too. I needed a jack of all trades that worked so I could spend my time making money by fixing everyone else's systems.
With that said, there are places in businesses where Linux would make a lot of sense and cents. Retail stores with several checkout systems would make a lot of sense to use thin linux systems with good point of sale software could really add up in savings very quickly because the cheapest computers these days have more than enough horse power to do this.
Others doing specific data-entry work in a billing department also could use such systems. Eddie Ball, the gutiar string maker, switched over to linux several years ago and things have worked out well. One thing he toughted back in the day was the fact that if an employee didn't need a web browser, they didn't get one. Helps keep workers from goofing off and productive.
For mass Linux deployement Linux still lacks support from many major software vendor, some hardware vendors, and still lacks a true universial and standard desktop interface.
"The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money" - Thatcher.
Why not? Ad hoc experiments done on non-technical friends indicate that for a managed desktop (ie where an admin sets it up and controls it) Linux is easier to use than OS X given zero training or familiarity with Windows. I'd say Linux is getting very ready very quickly.
or with no OS, will I believe that IBM is sincere.
A few months ago I tried to buy a ThinkPad T41 with either Linux pre-installed, no OS, or at least a breakdown of how much the Windows OS contributes to the total price.
I sent a very friendly email to the IBM customer support asking for either of the three options.
I got a one line response:
IBM ThinkPad's are not sold without Operating System. Thank you for your interest.
(Or very similar in wording).
Words are meaningless if not followed by actions. Of course IBM wants machines of *other* vendors to be converted to Linux. As soon as there is some impact on IBM offerings, it seems to be a different story.
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This is all nice and well, IBM, but what's really a sticking point for my workplace is the fact that there's no native Lotus Notes client for Linux. So far, IBM's solution for Notes is to run it under WINE.
I actually *despise* Notes. As a Notes developer I met said "It's great for lots of stuff, but email isn't one of them." Unfortunately, that's how most corporations I know of use it.
So, until I can convince the powers that be that Notes royally stinks, I'm afraid, we're stuck using it. Which means that we're stuck with Windows, 'cause they won't go for WINE either.
So, IBM, if you're listening, it sure would be nice to have a native Notes client.
I think the real answer is "because these books are developed by IBM there are some content limitations." IBM does a pretty good job of not participating in the distribution wars. In the section titled "1.6 Linux overview and distribution choices" the only mention of distributions by name is this sentance: "Some of the most well-known distributions include Red Hat, SuSE, Debian, Mandrake, etc." IBM has technology aliances with both Red Hat and SuSE so they cannot publicly endorse one in favor of the other. A quick search of the pdf showed that Red Hat was mentioned 110 times and SuSE was only mentioned 15 times. Debian and Mandrake were mentioned six and seven times respectivly. I doubt that really proves anything.
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Page 27: using smbmount to map network resources. You could mention you can do this via a gui very similar to the network neighborhood thing if they are in Gnome or KDE.
You might want to add Mac software to the list of *nix equivalents.
Add a section on locking down the workstation. It won't take people long to figure out they can ssh to anyones box and start messing with people. Any users familiar with setting up windows shares can only share certain folders (barring administrator access to c$, etc), but they probably won't know that if they use a crappy password, someone can gain access to every folder they have. Which reminds me, mention password rulesets and how to implement on the authentication server solutions listed.
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How about a Lotus Notes client for Linux? You cannot completely migrate to Linux even if you work for IBM.
WINE is not the answer. I say this from experience. NUL (Notes under Linux) is complete crap. IBM does not even offer the web based solutions internally.
You are misunderstanding the OSX momentum as far as the enterprise is concerned.
OSX momentum in enterprise desktop to any extent will be due to zeroconf and possibility to command mounts via LDAP. If you have 200+ desktops you must have means of propagating unified network filesystem view to them otherwise your support will go mad.
To this respect the more common breeds of BSD are seriously behind Debian and Suse. I do not count RedHat as suitable, because using automounter on it used to lead to oops and halts as far as 9.0 and they did not give a flying f about this.
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If they were supporting it on their own hardware, people would expect free handholding. Now, when Dell or HP or whomever drops the ball, IBM can charge for every second they spend picking up the slack.
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Yes... and so many are getting on the Apple desktop. Linux is free and cheap and can run on many different platforms, and at a low cost. It is easily customizable and it leaves the user in control. The linux market is indeed taking off and rapidly. By 2008 Linux is expected to be a 35 billion dollar industry. Regardless, many more people are switching or trying out linux per day than they are trying apple, simply because its much easier. Not to mention, the only thing apple has going for it is looks. Linux has way more software options and just a better community in general. You highly underestimate it.
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I find this astonishing, especially since Codeweavers product provides excellent compatibility for MS Office and other Windows applications. Maybe this is what the author was referring to when he said "...there are some content limitations"?
IBM saw a shift coming 10 years ago. Microsoft saw it as well. IBM acted on it, Microsoft attempted to delay it for as long as possible, but also knew it was coming and inevitable. Had they successfully usurped Java, we would never have seen Windows 98 or Me.
Users, especially in databases, spreadsheets and multimedia (esp. games) are demanding ever increasing levels of performance from computers. The PC as it currently stands cannot deliver what users want.
IBM knew this was coming and made it quite clear that programmers should follow certain techniques. For example, on OS/2, programmers were pushed towards Java. IBM released dozens of examples on using CORBA to interface Java programs to the work place shell. IBM kept pushing Java as the answer, because if you supported Java you could run on Microsoft's OS and theirs, and their Java performance was much higher than either the Sun or Microsoft VM at the time (in some cases four times the Windows version).
IBM has had all of its PC manufacturing outsourced for years. If the shift is towards cell and Power as they predict it will be (I think it's likely that they are correct in this, given how many companies are starting to jump on the bandwagon for power), then their PC division becomes useless deadweight.
If the shift stays on Intel/AMD, then 20% of a healthy PC manufacturer is better than 100% and outsourcing everythnig, and they get a huge cut of China as well.
In either event, IBM wins.
If your code is acting bloated, and is running rather slow, it's likely and predicted that some loops you will unroll.
i think a key result of the book could be to identify all the ways that developers can make the process easier for users. when you find something particularly egregious in the installation process, you could make a note of it in an appendix. that would help evolve linux to a position where you don't need to read a book to use it...
Novell also has released a wonderful migration checklist of sorts. It's a list of important factors to consider before trying to switch your enterprise to Linux. Thought someone might be interested in it.
Red Hat was mentioned 110 times and SuSE was only mentioned 15 times
I'm currently working with IBM consultants on a POC and they mentioned to me (unofficially) that they use SuSE for their development and once their code is working there they port to RedHat. This of course does not mean anything more significant than the number of references to RedHat over SuSE in the article.
IBM *still* has a boatload of software that SHOULD run on Windows only. What I'd like to see in Version is words saying the following software is NATIVELY supported on Linux:
* Lotus Notes
* Sametime
* SmartSuite
If you're going to support Linux, support it completely, fer cryin' out loud!
180 user Law firm with:
.NET-based web time-entry interface that absolutely, positively requires IE.
Large vertical-market accounting system (Elite) with
Word using Interwoven Desksite Content Management System. Call me when an Open Source CMS can intercept OpenOffice File-Save and File-Open to present a metadata profile dialog or folder structure that assigns metadata based on the folder in which the document is stored. No frickin uploads.
Anything else could probably run in Wine.
There is an effort to put together a Law firm Distribution (LAWnix) but right now it's just picking the best pieces.
I would suspect more than a few companies are in this situation.
If you don't want to repeat the past, stop living in it.
...Lenovo, a Chinese company that brutalizes its workers
Lenovo is not mentioned anywhere in the linked document.
when you are trying to rollout a new desktop, give them a hundred dollars and some slack. Say "yes, we know you might have to learn as few new things, but give it an honest try for a little while, and here's a bonus to help pay for your personal training".
Cash talks, market speak BS boss orders walk.
People are at YOUR work because they want to MAKE MONEY, not because it's a hobby for them, you are asking them to keep doing their jobs they are doing now PLUS learn an all new system to them (most likely), so pay them for it, at least something. A little extra, a bonus. What cash you now don't ship to Redmond, shoot them a little bone for their efforts. Cash really perks people up and gives them a little enthusiasm, because humans are stubborn and they don't like to change. Grease the wheels of inertia a little. You pay your sales weasels bonuses for a "good job" above and beyond, same with all the other PHBs,so do it with the rank and file grunts, too.
Recognize that humans are humans and you are putting them out-even if it's for their own good and the companys own good in the medium and long term. they don't really understand that, they understand "this much work daily and NOW I have to relearn all this crap and..." You get the picture. Pay them for new things they have to do.
And technically, I don't think you can beat a live CD distro with a stick for a transition period, even if it's just setting up a few generic boxes with it running in the break room in advance of the switch, let them play with it before they are under pressure to produce on it. Give them free CD install disks they can take home and put on their own machines if they want to, the same stuff you will be running at work. That can't hurt either and is certainly cheap enough to do.
Others have noted that this point is addressed. The author conservatively steers clear of such dissasters.
"Very Complex Excel" migration is a failure, even if you stick to M$. OLE and calls to other functions are each invitations to something not being on the next version of Winblows. Worse, M$ changes their scripting so you can be sure you will have work to do no matter what. I know a guy who was doing Nuclear Power Plant thermal balance calculations with a big nasty sheet. It even called the local high school to get weather information that was then used for regulatory purposes! The thing was a tremendous pain in his ass that needed constant upkeep and had all sorts of quirks that could give you wrong answers. He was using the wrong tool for the job and needed to replace it with proper and stable tools.
For normal sheets, OO, gnumeric and even kspread are doing a very good job with opening complex sheets. I've been very pleased lately when trying to open old cross section calculation sheets. I've seen my old graphs. They are doing about as well as M$ junk itself did with my older sheets. In the worst case, I've got the nasty old things on an http server, so I can go get them on a Winblows box and see them. A company could easily keep a few Winblows boxes or just use Xandros with it's excellent Crossover Office setup.
If the book is challenged on that point, then you will lose credibility.
I don't think so. The author said it would not work. He was being conservative but surely knows as well as I do how things are going.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
Why aren't IBM notebooks some of the first dual boot machines on the market? You can't convince me that with IBM's resources they can't produce a neat little laptop. Buy Xandros and tweak that if they had to.
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The approach of "these advantages will go away" makes it look like you expect "I love you" style network instability from free software. That's not going to happen and we should not act like it will.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
Step 1: Install Ubuntu ... There is no step 2!
Step 2:
I have a netgear wireless card in my laptop. Not only did Ubuntu detect it during the install, it asked me if I wanted to use it or my wired card as eth0 (I chose the wireless) and used it to download all the updated packages after it did the base install from CD. That's something that no other version of Linux has ever done on that laptop.
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Well, I'm working in IBM and tho I'm not commenting on this officially, I can say that we take the distro part seriously. That means we don't favour any distro over another. Some departments test on suse first, then redhat. In other deptartments it's the other way around. Suse has had better support on power cpus than redhat, but with red hat enterprise linux version 3 that has changed to a large degree.
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When you develop something, you must have some base level versions of compilers and libraries to develop on. Then you test on different versions to check that everything work.
As another poster pointed out; whatever sells our servers, software and services...
As any big corporations, we're pimps. I just like to think that we're honest about it, and as good pimps we try to make our customers happy.
ouch, maybe not PC....
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IBM recommends Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional.
When they remove that, I'll know they're serious about Linux.
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Now, if only IBM would actually give us a useful Desktop, like.. oh.. PORT THE WORKPLACE SHELL TO RUN ON X11.. please? Give me the code, I'll do it, if you don't want to spare the resources.
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What about IBM's own Lotus Notes? I know a number of companies that could convert a large number of desktops to Linux if only it ran Notes. IBM really needs to fix this if it wants people to take Linux on the desktop seriously.
Man, I certainly hope that with the money from the sales of their PC business IBM can finally afford to get a spell checker.
I'm four chapters into this book. While there's a lot of great information and ideas, it reads like a rough draft. Given that I haven't seen a story on cnn.com with FEWER than 3 major spelling or grammar issue (most frequent error on cnn: Sentences that missing word! (yes, that's intentional)) in years, I suppose this book is not all that terrible. There are several pages so far that have not had any significant ones...
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this is absolutely the biggest joke in linux - support for multiple, co-existing languages on the same desktop. No logout/login to change a paragraph into farsi, please! Macs and even poor shlub Windows manage this fine, but talk about a wide-ranging lack of support - internationalization exists in little splintered bits from the kernel to OOo, and is very* inconsistent.
Whether you need multiple languages daily, or just to open/deal with a multibyte font in excel (even though the whole of the file was typed in english), until this is working much* better in linux (crossover office comes close, but not quite), it just isn't going to be an option onn an increasingly-internationalized desktop.
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Given that IBM has sold their desktop division to Lenovo, and IBM involvement with Apple is widely rumored ... what might be their motivations for releasing this Redbook now? To put it another way, the only IBM interest I can see in this matter is to generate as much IBM GS work as possible.
Pardon the naysaying but when a post is done anonymously, when it neglects to mention what the saves-the-day Linux tool was, when it is incredibly vague in every respect I become suspicious. I understand being vague when not anonymous and I understand being anonymous when mentioning specific tools in a negative light or when mentioning engaging in question behavior. But anon and vague smells fishy.
/b" can manage that. So I'll assume you meant to say that you wanted to combine two individual and complete movies into one.
Cancatenate two files. Surely this was not simply concatenating two binary files, as would be the case when a large movie is split into pieces for download. DOS's "copy
What Linux tool saved the day? What's the harm in mentioning what it is? Nothing improper about downloading the source and building it. Could it be that this tools builds under both Linux and Windows, like so many useful tools that seek a large audience?
Again, I apologize for being so suspicious but something about this post just struck me as very weird.
From TFSummary:
...At this point, I'm gathering input for what we could improve on...
/. do we get people WHO MODERATE WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SUMMARY.
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When you look at the state of the world, how can you not become a radical, liberal anarchist?
What I would say (IANAL) is:
- You may limit the distribution of modified code to within your organization.
- If you redistribute code outside of your organization, it must include access to the source code.
- Recipients of source code (original or derivative) must receive the same redistribution rights as you had to the original.
____Typo on page 8: I'm thinking that that should be:
Free Software: Like love, it grows best when given away.
Personally, I think they bailed out on the PC market because their cell processor probably kicks so much ass its going to make PC's obsolete. No doubt it runs Linux also. I see better days ahead, my friends... Of course this is just wild speculation on my part.
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Ouch, cheap shot :-) IBM produces many 100s of Redbooks a year and there is a standard toolset to maintain consistency. However, the source material given by the authors to the editors could have been done on any platform, in most any format...
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to a Chinese company. I think this will make a difference.
It is fairly obvious that you have not managed a deployment of this size (or have done it without any extra project load) as anyone who have tried both approaches can tell you.
1. With your approach mounts are permanent, not ephemeral. As a result in order to propagate a trivial change like moving an export (share) from one server to another you need to hammer out a script and hit every single server with it. In a 200+ workstation deployment you have to do this at least several times a week.
2. With your approach moving people's home and personal shares around will once again require scripting onto every single system in the office.
3. With your approach the systems are not interchangeable while with a LDAP or NIS backend they can be made 100% so. As a result if a desktop goes down or is due for replacement (this happens every week or so in a deployment of this size) you can simply throw the first machine you can get your hands onto at the user desk and it just works because all of his personal files are on the network and the config is in the LDAP/NIS backend. With your approach you end up having to hand craft the machine in question.
4. With your approach you end up having to backup considerably more then necessary because you have to back up a lot of redundant information instead of one LDAP or NIS store.
5. With your approach you end up shit creek without a paddle the moment you have to do specials and customizations. LDAP on well supported systems (OSX, Debian, Suse) and NIS where supported have well defined means of merging local and network config (the + notation)
6. Basically, it depends how do you value your time. From your post I think you do not and you are happy to spend most of the day scripting stuff that can be pushed out via a single configuration file change. I simply do not have that time so I will stick with NIS and LDAP and systems which support them well. BSD does not. Just ask anyone who have tried to combine passwd.byname masterpasswd.byname and shadow.byname on one network. Or try it yourself.
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And the exact same thing can be said for Windows, so what's your point? WHEN IBM removes their XP statement then we'll know they are serious about Linux.
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From your post And it won't be a problem unless you are stupid as a user and do what they say not to do. Uhhh ok....and where in your mental state did you come up with this? I said they need a password policy to keep bad passwords from happening. Where are you getting off ragging on me saying this? Are you 12?
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I'm not responding to the article moron, I'm responding to the post titled "Greatest Need of Linux: AOL Client" You dumb fart!