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ASUS Barebones: Multimedia Even Sans Hard Drive

technomegalomaniac writes "This new stylish barebones combo from ASUS (case+motherboard) is going to outdo Apple in 'the way it looks matters' department. Customizable to your heart content, no OS included (obviously, since you need to buy your own hard drive). Comes with 'Instant On' software that lets you play CDs, DVDs and MP3s without entering the primary OS thus bypassing the long boot process. Definitely a living room toy." Doesn't beat Apple hardware in my eyes, but still looks like a nifty box.

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  1. I can't be the only one.... by SparksMcGee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    who looks at that and thinks "damn that's fugly"

    1. Re:I can't be the only one.... by isometrick · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Might actually be good for a dorm room, where space is limited. I do wonder how functional the built in stuff is, though.

    2. Re:I can't be the only one.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Fugly and worse still with that funky handle on top and its shape it's not stackable.

      Sure it's stackable, as long as it is on the top of the stack.

    3. Re:I can't be the only one.... by UniverseIsADoughnut · · Score: 3, Informative

      This has been around for a while, and I think everyone but the person who submitted this would agree it's hideous. This thing has been getting called ugly for a long time now.

    4. Re:I can't be the only one.... by zakezuke · · Score: 2, Funny

      who looks at that and thinks "damn that's fugly"

      No no no. When the Imacs were first introduced... when in LA they had the big poster with John Lennon and Yoko Ono waking up in bed with a rainbow of imacs logo titled "think different." I could just imagine John Lennon's balloon saying, "piece of crypto fascist Bourgeois crap" and Yoko Ono saying, "I kind of like it". That is fugly.

      This new Asus barebones on the other hand is only as ugly as that plastic tool box by Black and Decker. I understand where they are coming from trying to sorta merge the beige box with classic black hifi equipment. Unfortunatly in this case it's about as pretty as a black powder coated toaster. But by no means is it fugly.

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    5. Re:I can't be the only one.... by Blender · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ok, I agree with you that it is just as ugly as your ordinary beige box, BUT... it's not a beige box. ASUS tried their best to make a good looking non-beige box... and failed. This thing IMHO is just as ugly as a beige box. I wouldn't want one of these in the living room either.

    6. Re:I can't be the only one.... by mjpaci · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, it'll grow on you... Like Jock-itch.

      The box looks like a portable geiger-counter or 'nifty-virus identifying device from the future."

      Not fugly, but not in the same class as Apple.

      --Mike

    7. Re:I can't be the only one.... by asr_man · · Score: 3, Funny

      Looks like a 24-pack Bud that was shrink wrapped in a garbage bag.
      I wouldn't dare leave it in the living room for fear someone would take it out with the trash.

    8. Re:I can't be the only one.... by jandrese · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm pretty sure that lump is there on purpose to make sure people don't stack stuff on top of this guy. It probably vents from the top and can't handle having stuff stacked on it.

      That lump is butt ugly though.

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    9. Re:I can't be the only one.... by generic-man · · Score: 2, Funny

      I bet it has evil DRM.

      (Score: 5, Fearmongering)

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    10. Re:I can't be the only one.... by isdnip · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The DigiMatrix you point to does, indeed, look a lot more appropriate for a home entertainment system.

      Alas, only it has a built-in SiS video system, which is rather limited in 3D performance, though apparently adequate for SDTV. And while it says it take a Socket 478 Northwood CPU, I'm bewildered as to how you can fit much of a heat sink into that low profile box! Much as I dislike overly-fat boxes (and I think the base-note's system-cube-with-handle is indeed inappropriate for an entertainment system), I can't help thinking that DigiMatrix could use a little extra headroom, for a slot or two if not just cooling.

    11. Re:I can't be the only one.... by mrhartwig · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, according to the info on the web page (What?!? You didn't *read* the referenced material?!?!?) venting is in the sides, out the back.

  2. Outdoing Apple?? by ValiantSoul · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How do the looks of this thing outdo Apple's?
    This thing is just a black box with a handle and a color LCD display. Compare that to the current and previous iMacs.

    1. Re:Outdoing Apple?? by FlipmodePlaya · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, if you'd like to simplify this device into a 'box with a handle and a color LCD', you could do just the same for the iMac... Obviously, looks are subjective; it doesn't matter what the submiter thinks so you, nor what you think to him.

    2. Re:Outdoing Apple?? by JanneM · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, the blodless semi-transparent white is getting a bit long in the tooth to be honest. The benefit of basic black is that it never really gets old.

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    3. Re:Outdoing Apple?? by identity0 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I agree. That thing looks really ugly.

      What I don't get is why Sony doesn't get more press on Slashdot, except for their robots and PS2. Among the PC manufacturers, they are the most stylish, and are probobly the most innovative in terms of design. They also are closer to achieving the "digital hub" than Apple, to boot. Too bad their best stuff is relased only in Japan.

      Check out some of their kickass designs:

      http://www.vaio.sony.co.jp/Products/VGX-X90P/ - The Type X models, a PC media server with P4/3.6 Ghz, 1920x1080 TV display, 6 simultanious channel TV tuner, 1TB storage (127 hours of high-quality Mpegs), remote control, DVD recorder, network video server, and remote control.

      http://www.vaio.sony.co.jp/Products/VGC-M50B/ - Type M model, a PC that can be used as a TV or a standalone stereo with its keyboard folded.

      Couple of nice notebook designs:
      http://www.dynamism.com/x505/main.shtml
      http://www.dynamism.com/u101/main.shtml

  3. Gaming system? by rhennigan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From the article:
    The S1-P112 is a pure gaming system tailored for those who enjoy playing the latest 3D titles.

    I hope this thing packs a decent power supply, unlike most barebone systems if its going to be running a recent video card. That has been the only thing so far that has kept me off of these things. I find one I like and realize that the 240w PS just isn't gonna cut it with my Geforce 6800.

    1. Re:Gaming system? by Atrax · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'd be worried about cooling if you crammed more wattage in, especially since my current rig has a tendency to overheat even with two extra fans + an external fan blowing onto the case.

      Climate thing possibly (summer in Sydney)

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  4. Hmm by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is it me or does that look strikingly similar to a gamecube?

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  5. Not the worst, but cmon... by clf8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But really, what's up with that handle? And, if you're going to make a system made for the living room, why not make something with the appropriate dimensions. And without a handle sticking out the top, making it harder to fit into a space or stack something on it.

    1. Re:Not the worst, but cmon... by Atrax · · Score: 4, Funny

      I bought a desktop case with a handle only to realise at a later date that "duh, when do I carry this damn thing?".

      to date (6 months later) I've carried it once from the shop to my house, then once from my old house to my new house, a grand total of, ooooh, 200m.

      And you just can't put stuff on top. I've got nowhere to keep my remote control t-rex now!

      So yeah, I agree. The handle is quite an annoyance.

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  6. The unholy union has been consumated! by Bill_Royle · · Score: 4, Funny

    It was bound to happen sooner or later: an LCARS system had sex with a clock radio!

    1. Re:The unholy union has been consumated! by WolfgangVonEstevez · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was thinking more of a digital car stereo had sex with a vacuum cleaner.

    2. Re:The unholy union has been consumated! by Kent+Recal · · Score: 2, Funny

      Reminds me of Knight Rider.
      Specifically the episode where K.I.T.T was turned into a portable TV.

  7. S-Presso? by mOoZik · · Score: 4, Funny

    So it makes coffee, too? Take that, Apple!

  8. It looks like... by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Am I the only one that thinks it looks like a microwave? Though, with a name like that, it should be an expresso maker.

    On the other hand, is it digitally signed? If not, how can I trust it?

  9. My DVD player does this now without a HDD by aardwolf204 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Am I the only one that thinks the form factor should look more like a component cd player, or receiver. This doesnt mesh with my current stack o hardware in my living room.

    Come to think of it, my DVD player plays DVDs, MP3, and CDs and has no hard drive. Throw in a network card and we're really cooking.

    And I'm not so sure this thing would give apple a run for its money in the aesthetics department. The U2 ipod looks more pleasing.

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    1. Re:My DVD player does this now without a HDD by Baki · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are several DVD players with network (fixed or wireless) and with (optional) harddrive that can do this, plus also play Divx and Xvid, for example some of these. The later generations support more and more options, e.g. GMC and qpel.

  10. Similar (better?) one by MSI by lithium100 · · Score: 5, Informative

    MSI make something similar and have a few different models. MSI's look better I think but functionally they're very similar.

    Here's the link

    1. Re:Similar (better?) one by MSI by areve · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I found this the other day. This looks very pretty klosspc. I'd love to see any reviews on this one!

  11. This on the Frontpage...? by loyukfai · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How do they call it? Slashadvertisement? Slashvertisement? Slashdotadvertsiisfjlasjflasjflas...

    I remember several notebooks have such functions long before (Maybe not DVD playing...)... It's a nice product but does it deserve a frontpage slot?

  12. Re:What I don't like.... by Tesral · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Anyone have prices of this yet?

    Price is the thing I was looking for as well. I tried half a dozen retailer on ASUS' list and on not one could I find the system listed.

    Oh, and I don't like the handler either. The suggestion to build it to stack with TV components is a good one. Ye olde slimline desktop would be perfect. Mix that with a nice big hard drive and MythTV and you have a system.

    Now, if there was only TV worth watching.

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  13. Re:What I don't like.... by kngthdn · · Score: 3, Informative

    It looks like it's going to cost around $250USD, according to Froogle, anyway.

  14. What the...? by aero2600-5 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Am I the only person that hears 'barebones combo' and pictures a full/mid-tower with motherboard and power supply? (Looks something like this )

    Aero

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  15. You mean by JavaRob · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...a *car battery* had sex with a clock radio. That's the lineage I see. Some clunking noises, a blare of static-filled AM talk radio, a drip of battery acid... and a few QA iterations later the creature was born.

    The ivory one must look nicer though, right? I only saw a thumbnail of it before I closed the window.

  16. Colour Scheme from the 80's by bedok77 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The colour of the lights remind me of 80's electronics.. or Kitt.

  17. Re:What I don't like.... by qualico · · Score: 4, Informative

    MythTV is a great suggestion.

    Some guys are using the Intel Integrated motherboards with no problem, although I don't think they are using the graphics part.

    Here is a better case in that case.
    http://www.athenatech.us/a100bb.htm

    Also, http://www.byopvr.com/ has dome good case suggestions.

    PC Alchemy has some nice stuff like this:
    http://www.pcalchemy.com/images/silverstone /lc06/l c06-black.jpg

    Now thats something to brag about.

  18. It looks more like a.. by msimm · · Score: 4, Funny

    Clock-radio. Its not even in the Apple ballpark (and I'm a PC user!).

    Whats the deal with PC manufacturers anyway? Its like the technology equivalent of the comb-over. Is it really that hard to design smart, elegant hardware? Beige boxes are great for business, but hasn't Apple already proven theres a market for aesthetics?

    Did I already mention that its ugly as hell?

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  19. Gimick by pikakilla · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It sounds like a gimick to me. The case is nice, but paying 240 for the case plus paying for the cpu + memory + hdd + graphics + decent soundcard isnt worth it. Unless you have decent parts lying around, it is better to hook up your computer (or a slower, silent comp with a good soundcard) to your sound system and put a remote on it.

  20. I like ASUS by klui · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have an A7V classic that's been upgraded to a 2.2GHz Athlon XP-M. Quite reliable and far from obsolete.

    But frankly, the S-presso has a long way to go if you think they're going to outdo Apple in "the way it looks matters department." It's too bad the G4 Cube never took off. That is what I would consider a living room toy. Minimalist and elegant. In contrast, the S-presso from the pictures looks like it is encased in cheap plastic made for a 5-year-old. Its shape doesn't look like it will complement components in a home-entertainment rack. If I had one of these puppies, it would probably be sitting behind a chair.

    1. Re:I like ASUS by Queer+Boy · · Score: 2, Informative
      It's too bad the G4 Cube never took off. That is what I would consider a living room toy.

      Mine's in my living room connected to my Wega. They didn't take off because they were priced VERY close to a G4 tower at launch. People don't forgive Apple when they make a mistake, even if they correct it (lowered the price A LOT). I didn't care, the thing is modern art and I figured I had a chance at owning the next Colour Classic (I was right). I used it for 3 years until something better finally came out: the G5.

      I myself cannot understand why a case manufacturer could not hire some design majors and clean up in the PC case market. It's not THAT hard to make an aesthetically pleasing computer case, Apple's been doing it for over 20 years, sgi for near that.

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  21. Pentium 4 only by steveha · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I'm going to have something like this in my living room, I want it to be quiet. That means I want it to be cool. But this thing has a Pentium 4 motherboard.

    I'd really rather have a 90nm Athlon64, with "Cool n Quiet". And whatever 3D chipset has the best performance/heat ratio. (Probably an ATI chipset... too bad the drivers suck in Linux. Are there any nVidia chipsets that can run Doom 3 but don't also heat your room?)

    A PowerPC chip would also be good. Hey, Apple -- you ought to make a living-room Mac.

    steveha

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  22. Acutally, it runs Linux! by farrellj · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to an article here:

    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19922

    It's instant-on software is an embed version of Linux! Supercool! I want one!

    And street pricing seems to be about $250 for it...so it's cheap! Now that's just a bare-bones system, but still, you could have a nice PVR for under $600 USD!

    Sweet!

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  23. Wrong CPU, too by panurge · · Score: 2, Funny

    This thing needs either a P-M or an AMD64 DTR. It does not need socket 478. Why equip it with the most unsuitable processor for its intended application - a mistake, of course, that Apple would never make.

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  24. S1-P111 by telstar · · Score: 4, Funny

    S1-P111. It needs a few more 1's before I'd consider it buyable.
    Seriously ... Who the fuck comes up with model numbers? Did these retards pay somebody to come up with S1-P111?

  25. Embedded = A step behind by filipvh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While I think this is a great idea, I always find these "innovations" are a couple of years behind as soon as they're launched.

    Two years ago I would have loved one of these. Today, I expect my HTPC to play DivX/XVid, and stream from a network server as well. DVDs? That's old school!

    And embedded also means it probably can't be upgraded all that easily to add these features; it'll mean buying version 2 in a year's time, by which time my requiremens will have moved on...

    That said, while I don't consider myself an early adopter, I suppose I am by most (ie non Slashdot readers) standards.

  26. Re:Hard Drives power consumption? by qualico · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well from what I have read about the life expectancy of electronics in general, has a lot to do with how much you turn the unit on/off, the environment, humidity, temp, air circ. etc.

    The expansion and contraction of solder joints due to temp flux causes micro cracks that expand over time and eventually cause the malfunction.

    So that really is a hard question to answer.

    EPIA for those who may not know:
    http://www3.sympatico.ca/howlettfamily/epia /epia_h owto/index.html#Introduction

    Here is a good forum for those teeny DC PSUs:
    http://www.eio.com/public/psupply/

    Good definition of MTBF:
    http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/qual/sp ec_MTBF .htm
    And the turn on/off debate:
    http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/qual/ spec_MTBF .htm

    I like Tom's look at PSUs:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20030609/

    Here is the kicker though:
    "An overwhelmed power supply may not be able to keep adequate current flowing to your PC's components, and that can mean error messages, strange behavior, or even system shutdowns. But instead of those obvious signs of trouble, an overworked power supply may just pump extra heat into your PC, speeding up the system's aging process and pushing your PC's components to an early demise. If you suspect your power supply may be about to give up the ghost, replace it. PC Power and Cooling is a good source for quality power supplies."
    Source:
    http://www.pcworld.com/resour ce/zoom.asp

    Regardless, things will vary depending on your specifics. Call the manufacturer to verify specs and do some line testing with a handy dandy multi-meter.

  27. Re:This is old stuff by dr.badass · · Score: 2, Insightful

    why does it always take so long for good stuff to reach the United States?

    In the asian market, companies are much more willing to put out products that won't be huge sellers. If they estimate the demand for Widget X to be (say) 1,000 units, they'll make it, where in the US, things don't get made until the demand is (say) 10,000 units. I'll leave it to more informed to explain why this is the case.

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  28. I might buy one by aztektum · · Score: 2, Interesting

    just to rip that touch panel out Unless someone knows where I can get a similar screen for less than the case?

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  29. Mr. Coffee by thrill12 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Foul quote:

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    SANDURZ: We don't have visual contact yet, sir, but we have it on the radar screen. Shall I punch it up for you?

    HELMET: Na, nevermind. I'll do it myself.

    SANDURZ: Very good, sir.

    HELMET: What's the matter with this thing? What's all that churning and bubbling? You call that a radar screen.

    SANDURZ: No, sir. We call it, "Mr. Coffee." Care for some?

    HELMET: Yes! I always have coffee when I watch radar. You know that.

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  30. Re:? You know the target for this thing right? by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 2, Insightful
    As such, I think it looks quite similar to every other hi-fi device I won - black, with a colored LED-ish LCD panel.

    And cubical? How in Hell's name am I supposed to fit that thing in my entertainment rack? It's twice as high as my DVD player. It looks absolutely ridiculous. Then again, since it doesn't have to even be in the same room as my entertainment system I guess it doesn't matter. But then why try to make it look like a "hi-fi" device? It's so confusing. Is it a bad looking computer or an entertainment device with a non-standard form factor?

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  31. Re:Crappy entertainment centre by schtum · · Score: 3, Informative

    According to Nintendo, the GameCube is 4.3 inches tall. According to Asus, this thing is 7.1 inches. That's freaking huge for an AV component, unless you're talking about a receiver, which this thing is not. So you're half right: it's like a gamecube blown up to x-box proportions.

  32. OOH, someone else is trying to kill Apple. by Stick_Fig · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why is it that everyone's obsessed with outdoing Apple? The reason why what they're doing works is because they're NOT concerned about competing with everyone else. They let a good idea come to them and run with it.

    If I see another post on Slashdot about an "Apple Killer", I'm going to throw my hands up in the air, and cry like a little baby, because I'm pathetic like that.

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  33. Agreed... Ugly and the wrong shape. by reezle · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's shaped like a case of Coke... Not the ideal for stacking with the rest of my equipment.

    How about the D-Link Media Player instead? It's about an inch and a half tall, and plays all my media to the TV (wirelessly) and without a hard drive either.

  34. that's not even black by JavaRob · · Score: 2, Interesting

    black, with a colored LED-ish LCD panel

    Some unfortunate news for you -- even if you found a way to make it fit nicely on your shelf (the strange shape and that puffy handle aren't helping on this one...), black is not an option.

    That's "Starry Blue".