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BBC Reports 38% Jump In U.S. Broadband Use

Sammy at Palm Addict writes "The BBC tells how broadband internet usage has soared over in the U.S. 'More and more Americans are joining the internet's fast lane, according to official figures. The number of people and business connected to broadband jumped by 38% in a year, said the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC).'"

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  1. Yay! by krymsin01 · · Score: 3, Funny

    More drones for the botnets out there. More DDOS attacks! More Spam! It's a Good Thing(tm).

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    1. Re:Yay! by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually this is not funny and i don't think it was intended to be funny, there are a lot of people without no proper education on the internet getting hooked on it these days. Im not thinking about the CS/IT level education they should be given, but some basic safety education which should be given to them...i would make it complimentary but let's stop chasing red herrings for a second, i would be very happy if they would at least offer it, offer basic safety education with a new internet subscription.

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  2. Problem with Broadband by grahamsz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is that in the USA (and the UK) it seems that broadband is kinda-fast. Maybe maxing out at a few megabit/s.

    Parts of the far east and scandinavia seem to have far faster connections already... yet in the west we are rolling out slow broadband services and haven't really got plans for higher speed ones.

    This will restrict the possibilities for video on demand and similar services. Of course it's likely that comcast et al might want that...

    1. Re:Problem with Broadband by grahamsz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But it's probably not a 3Mb/3Mb connection either.

      When your connection gets faster it becomes practical to mount disks on remote systems. I'm forced to do this sort of thing for work and it's pretty slow even when i'm only editing source files.

      I also upload a number of large image files, and could always use this being faster.

      It seems like this is a case of the 640k problem.

    2. Re:Problem with Broadband by YggdrasilOS · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The main problem with slow broadband--stateside and elsewhere--is the transmission medium. Rollout of broadband to new areas often entails laying down hundreds of km of fibre, as many areas have nothing but Cu wire prior to this. Add to this that the two most prevalent broadband solutions still use Cu for the "Last Mile", and you have huge bottlenecking problems. To their credit, Verizon is trying to fix the problem, but any infrastructure change on this scale is going to take aeons.

      Contrast this with S. Korea--the poster child for a wired society. Look back a measly few decades, and lo and behold, no telecom/cable infrastructure to speak of! By the time they started really getting serious about geting wired, fibre had become the Medium of Choice, so that's what they used.

      Everywhere. In everything.

      Consequently, they get blisteringly fast internet connections, and are often puzzled or pitying when their US friends complain about slow downloads or quadruple-digit ping values. The US can have this kind of speed, and it will, but the time required to replace an existing network (or notwork, as may be the case ^_^) is several orders of magnitude greater than the requirement for installing an infrastructure into a virgin environment.

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    3. Re:Problem with Broadband by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Sounds like the US and UK strategy is to squeeze as much as possible from our antiquated telephone and cable networks, and we'll worry about laying fiber some time later...."

      FIOS *is* Fiber to the Premises

      It's not a future promise, it's not "squeezing the telephone network". It's a new network based on fiber to your house, it's fast, and it's being deployed NOW. Verizon is investing 2.5 billion in deploying it through 2005.

      Besides, what's wrong with copper and coax? ADSL2 offers 25Mbit speeds when used on good loops, and each QAM cable channel (there are at least 125) offers 40MBps of bandwidth.

    4. Re:Problem with Broadband by multipartmixed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > When your connection gets faster it becomes practical to mount disks on remote systems.
      > I'm forced to do this sort of thing for work and it's pretty slow even when i'm only
      > editing source files.

      I don't know what kind of work environment you have, but I find it much faster to remote-X my Lucid Xemacs over an ssh connection that I do to mount the disks and edit them that way.

      The added bonus is that I don't have to compile on my slow home boxen to test my changes.

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  3. Teh Metrixs? by RileyLewis · · Score: 4, Funny

    According to a documentary I saw recently, in the not too distant future the entire world will be hooked up to some sort of large interconnected network of humans from birth, controlled by some robots or something. I think in parts II and III of the film series, the documentary maker goes more in depth about how a small bunch of people get all cranky and get everyone else cut off from the network. Probably overused their bandwidth or something.

  4. Funny... by 1tsm3 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    that BBC is reporting about the US trend. Whatever happened to the American analysts and news companies?

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    1. Re:Funny... by mattkinabrewmindspri · · Score: 4, Insightful
      They stopped analyzing and reporting the news.

      They're too busy talking about Scott Peterson or the eating problems of that one Olsen twin. You know, the important stuff.

    2. Re:Funny... by Triumph+The+Insult+C · · Score: 2, Funny

      Whatever happened to the American analysts and news companies?

      outsourced to the uk apparently

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    3. Re:Funny... by Macsimus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, along those lines, ABC World News Tonight ran a story not too long ago about the plight of illegal immigrants crossing the border from Mexico into the United States. The story was produced by ... the BBC. Wha-huh?!? I know American news organizations have cut back their international news budgets, but ABC can't even report a story in its own back yard?

      I will say, though, that the BBC did a pretty good job. Still, it was a bit odd watching a British reporter interview an American border patrol officer.

    4. Re:Funny... by mwooldri · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The way things are going, the BBC is becoming a major news force in the USA anyway. An awful lot of US public radio stations are carrying BBC World Service overnight (cheaper than NPR), you can get BBC World Service on XM and Sirius, and BBC World TV programming gets aired on local PBS stations. Sure there's BBC America but if the BBC got BBC World carried on more cable systems and on the satellite services then we'd see them referred to in the same vein as CNN, MSNBC, Fox...

      However, the BBC has advantages the US domestic networks don't, and that is an outsider's view. They aren't in the hands of politicians, and are non-commercial. Their interviewers are more straight and to the point, sometimes even confrontational (e.g. John Humphries, Jeremy Paxman...).

      If the BBC were ever given funds to develop a proper US news service, I'm sure it would be successful - politicans couldn't criticize it for being left wing or right wing, and if someone like John Humphries ever got to interview President Bush (or anyone in the Bush Administration) I'm sure that would be a very interesting interview indeed. Don Rumsfeld for breakfast and Rice for lunch?

      In any case, this is supposed to be about US uptake of broadband. My guesses as to why it's popular are a) you no longer have the World Wide Wait with dial up Internet (and Americans are impatient creatures ... but then so am I...) b) you can get that pirate music easier and c) in a lot of cases it's cheaper than AOL and that second phone line, so why not go broadband, dump AOL and get that speed increase.

      Mark.

    5. Re:Funny... by johannesg · · Score: 4, Funny
      Well, it is still unofficial, but the UK will be applying for membership of the US in the near future. It is all part of a greater plan in which Canada becomes part of the EU.

      Currently there are still some practical considerations (how do we move Canada to join up with continental Europe?), but once the polar ice has melted there should be nothing to stop us from sawing Canada free and towing it to its new location.

      The benefits to everyone are obvious: the EU is currently extremely crowded, but it will get a lot of extra land through this deal. The Canadians finally get a neighbour that respects them. The UK is finally rid of that damn EU, and the US... Well, I guess not everyone wins but the UK is only a small country anyway, most of you won't notice any changes...

  5. Hmm. Perhaps this isn't such a good thing... by Rupan · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm just imagining the l33t scr1pt k1dd13s on their parents' new DSL connection and shuddering.... or perhaps it is the slowdown that the surge in content demand will cause. Oh well... maybe it does have a good side... after all, the people will be seeding movie torrents too :)

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  6. Correllation with Lawsuits? by Hypharse · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ok, this is a jump and it's surely not the ONLY reason, but I wonder how much the publicity from pirated movies/music has encouraged people to get broadband to try it? I knew many people that never even considered downloading movies online (or new of bit torrent) until the big MPAA pub over it. Now they are all pridefully exchanging the best torrent sites they have found for it.

  7. Well.... by jamesgomez · · Score: 2, Insightful

    With all of the price drops in high speed internet service, it was inevitable that more would use it. Personally, I know people who don't need to have high speed internet service since all they do is e-mail and casually use their computers. Eventually, more and more will divulge into the computer scene, then upgrading from dialup to broadband once a computer is common in all households and a neccessity to everyone. Myself, I wouldn't be able to live without a computer for a few days, but most people are still traditional. Why is this even news? It's inevitable, more people are going to use it regardless.

  8. This means several things by Kell_pt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This means several things. To start with, it makes perfect sense in conjunction with these news.

    It also means that the US, despite all their assumptions, are far behind the rest of the world in matters of broandband. France, for instance, you can get a T1 line for values near 50$/month, similar thing in Sweden. Even in Portugal, which is easily in the tail of Europe in terms of broadband, it's now quite hard finding someone still not connected via DSL or Cable. In Estonia, it's in their constitution that having access to the internet is a human right. In Tawain, 2mbps connection is nearly free, and as common as electricity (you'd be hard pressed to find a house w/o connection).

    My question for the conspiracy theorists, is this on purpose? We're all aware that an online population is much more likely to be better informed and free from the shackles of internal manipulation and mass media, by picking news from other sources. Is broadband adoption being purposefully slowed down? It's a humorous question of course, but it does bear to mind... why is a technological giant like the US so far behind in broadband, why are they rather investing in military networks instead of public ones? While at it, why is their power grid system so OLD and crumbling?

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    1. Re:This means several things by unitron · · Score: 2, Insightful
      In most of those other (non-USA) places you mention, services and utilities tend to be government provided (and taxes are higher), whereas here you often have to deal with a commercial enterprise that only considers improving things for the customer (if it's going to cost said enterprise anything) when forced to by competition or government regulation.

      I live about 2000 feet from a phone company switching station that's only a decade or so old but only in the past few months has DSL become available (at about the same time that the local cable TV franchise started making noises about offering VOIP).

      My conspiracy theory is that everybody's switching to broadband because dialup on a Pentium II or better and 56K modem is worse than it was at 28K with a 486.

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    2. Re:This means several things by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Fance, for instance, you can get a T1 line for values near 50$/month, similar thing in Sweden."

      You can get 1.5MBit/1MBit DSL from Qwest for around $35 a month, including ISP.

      They don't use T1s in Europe - it's a US standard, they use E1s.

      There's no conspiracy. The facts are clear: the US government hasn't paid to put in the broadband infastructure. It's been the individual companies - Qwest, Verizon, Comcast and others - who have paid for the equipment and labor.

      We don't have "super fast" access because no one gives a shit. 95% of Americans probably couldn't tell you what "bandwidth" was - nor would they care. The biggest problem facing broadband adoption is not infastructure or cost, it's the fact that people already have dial-up and they don't see any reason to change.

      We have low broadband adoption for the same reason that we drive POS Chevys and eat absolute shit as food - we don't bother to demand a better product.

  9. Meanwhile.... by linguae · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ....there has been a large jump in computers being turned into spam zombies, servers hosting warez, pr0n and other things, and malware installations.

    This isn't flamebait, but I notice that a lot of the Joe Average-type of users don't know how to secure their machines. They are usually very ignorant about the Internet. The majority of them don't know what a firewall is, use a browser that resembles swiss cheese (cough*Internet Explorer*cough), and do other dangerous things such as going on any random site to download some spyware-infested game or opening attachments in Outlook.

    Combine this ignorance about computers in general with a broadband connection, and they're an attacker's delight. With a broadband connection, most users wouldn't know that somebody is silently doing weird things with their computer, since their Internet connection is so fast, they wouldn't really notice a reduction in speed. Besides, broadband connections are always-on connections, further adding to the user's complete obliviousness to what's going on.

    It's kind of sad, because all these users need is a firewall (preferably external), secure browser, and, most importantly, some education. However, the latter approach is really hard to accomplish, and in order for the users to find out about firewalls and secure browsers, they would need to be educated about them, anyways. Maybe we need a commercial that tells the public to install firewalls and install Firefox/Mozilla/Opera/insert-your-favorite-browser -here, and to be actively preventing malware and other nasties from being installed on the computer.

    1. Re:Meanwhile.... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Wow, everyone is quite the Cassandra today.

      Compared to just a couple years ago I would say things are A LOT more secure for a variety of reasons:

      Melissa.worm showed corporate america their security is terrible and now its rare for me to see a client running Exchange without Symatec or Trend Micro's realtime scanner.

      The wireless/router fad puts everyone behind NAT, thus behind a firewall. The internet is chock full of articles on "how to open ports" because so many technophobes are behind firewalls but want to use P2P or some other app that requires port forwarding.

      People are getting *less* ignorant. Its easy to sit upon your FreeBSD high horse and mock everyday users, its a lot harder to help them. And they have been helped. There's a technophile in every family. The number of articles in the media regarding spam, spyware, and viruses is non-trivial. The fact that I can say the word spyware to a stranger and not be asked what that is shows that the message is getting across.

      Microsoft is seriously getting into the act. SP2 is godsend for the technophobes out there. Firewall on by default, better IE control, etc. Hell, they even recommend Ad Aware on their own site. Their aquisition of Giant can only mean good things in the long run.

      That being said, the worst offenders in my experience are computer savvy teens who don't give a shit, not new users. They're savvy enough to get warez and also savvy enough to do that eventual re-install long after they;re so infected its hurting their download rates.

      I've been doing some support for college students (for those who live in the dorm) and they're a lot more careful because they have data on there they need and have to put up with University policies regarding proper use. These skills translate over to the workplace pretty easily.

      So yeah, its not perfect, but in my experience its getting better, not worse. Sorry, but the internet has yet to collapse because of new users. In fact, more users means more eventual power users and an eventual critical mass where everyone has someone to lean on when they need help with their PC.

    2. Re:Meanwhile.... by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Compared to just a couple years ago I would say things are A LOT more secure....

      With all those dire warning articles in the mainstream press, people ARE taking heed of the warnings about Internet security and are installing protection programs as fast as possible. For example, you don't need to pay for that added security: install ZoneAlarm and AVG Antivirus for free to provide real-time protection, and run something like Ad-Aware SE and SpyBot (both are free) once a day to clean out tracking cookies and adware/spyware. Also, people ARE installing patches to various operating systems more diligently, especially since the horrors of the Blaster and Sasser infections.

  10. Obligatory Porn Post by WMD_88 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Really, people. It's all about the pr0n. 38% more people now have high-speed sex0r pouring into their houses.

    "Video-on-demand" my ass.

  11. Isn't that a problem with private companies by grahamsz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Naturally the various bells and cable cos love it when they can roll out broadband without any real capital investment.

    Most people, like my parents, never saw the need for broadband, but now that they have 512k connections can't understand how they coped without them.

    People won't want a faster connection until they've come to expect one, but presently that only includes those of us who've worked with networks in the acaedemic or corporate world.

    At work i'll cancel a download that's under about 600kbytes/s and try to find a mirror - yet i remember when 3kbyte/s was revolutionary.

    Still if company X says that a 1Mbit/s connection is blazingly fast broadband then 90% of people will eat it up and never disagree. So there's no incentive to do anything better - which is surely where the government should come in.

    They happily build 10 lane highways, surely a good comm network is a natural extension of that.

    1. Re:Isn't that a problem with private companies by flashgc · · Score: 2, Interesting
      No. It's a function of the economy. Have you checked to see how many miles of plant it would take to 'remake' the infrastructure for this entire country? Last time I looked it cost $18,000/mile to build cable plant and that was WITHOUT fibre. Even the government doesn't have deep enough pockets for that job.

      A couple months ago I looked into upgrading my DSL to 1.5 meg. At that time it was three times the bandwidth for twice the money. Not a bad deal on the face of it but I wasn't ready to pony up $100/month for DSL. Last week we made the jump when they offered that upgrade for only an additional $15/month. Now we have the 1.5 meg for 2/3 the cost of what it was a few months ago.

      You see how that works? I buy more bandwidth when it becomes affordable TO ME. The government didn't have to get anywhere near the deal.

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  12. Slow broadband is still better than dialup by Ryan+Stortz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A large portion of the US still doesn't have access to broadband at all, and it's not only confined to extreme rural areas. Hell, I live 15 miles from Lansing, Michigan and I can't get anything faster than 26,000bps dialup. It's not like we're the only house for miles either, the cable company just refuses to string out the lines another 8/10ths of a mile because of the cost. That extra mile would cover atleast 90-100 homes, most who are fed up with DirecTV.

    Wasn't it just a few monthes ago when CmdrTaco posted an Ask Slashdot about him finally getting broadband? If I remember correctly, he lives only a few miles outside of Ann Arbor, MI, and he was inquiring about satilite and it's support of his Mac. Satilite is hardly an answer, it's extremely overpriced and slower than any other broadband solutions. I've looked at a few places and most places offer it for $45-$60/month with anywhere from $400-$600 in equipment and setup fees, and that's for only 400Kbps on the high end with a second of lag. Not to mention you have to sign a 2 year contract.

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  13. The thrill is gone. by tloh · · Score: 3, Funny

    Man, the slashdot Gods really knows how to take the thrill out of a man's accomplishments. Just yesterday, I was giddy with pride for having finally figured out how to get the modem-on-hold function working for my dial up. No I'm depressed and have lost all motivation to attempt the same thing with my Debian partition. Excuse me but I have to go sulk now.

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  14. United States 3rd in Internet penetration rate by mc6809e · · Score: 5, Informative

    What a crock of propaganda.

    The United States is 3rd in total internet penetration rate (68.8%), only behind Sweden(74.6%) and Hong Kong(72.5%).France, Portugal, and Estonia, aren't even in the top 25.

    Pathetic, and by your logic much less informed than USAians. Europeans should be ashamed.

    Oh sure. Maybe broadband is cheaper some places. Or more people have it in other places. Big deal. Many Americans seem happy with modems.

    1 Sweden 74.6 %
    6,722,576
    9,010,700
    Nielsen//NR Aug./04

    2 Hong Kong 72.5 %
    4,878,713
    6,727,900
    Nielsen//NR Aug./04

    3 United States 68.8 %
    201,661,159
    293,271,500
    Nielsen//NR Aug./04

    4 Iceland 66.6 %
    195,000
    292,800
    ITU - Dec./03

    5 Netherlands 66.5 %
    10,806,328
    16,254,900
    Nielsen//NR Aug./04

    6 Australia 65.9 %
    13,359,821
    20,275,700
    Nielsen//NR Aug./04

    7 Canada 64.2 %
    20,450,000
    31,846,900
    C.I.Almanac - Dec/03

    8 Switzerland 63.5 %
    4,432,190
    7,433,000
    Nielsen//NR Aug./04

    9 Denmark 62.5 %
    3,375,850
    5,397,600
    Nielsen//NR June/02

    10 Korea, (South) 62.4 %
    30,670,000
    49,131,700
    KRNIC - July/04

    1. Re:United States 3rd in Internet penetration rate by Kell_pt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To start with, I'm having a hard time understanding how was that "propaganda". I think you're confusing "increase in penetration rate" (which is what the article is all about) with "total penetration rate".

      Moreover, you're confusing "broadband access" with "internet access". You're talking quantity, I'm talking quality. And just so you can see where I'm comming, those 75%ish where you're comparing the US and Sweden... in Sweden you'll be hard pressed to find a non-broadband access - you should give it some further thought.

      Read the report U.S. a Generation Behind in High-Speed Broadband instead of just reading BBC news.

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    2. Re:United States 3rd in Internet penetration rate by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Informative
      Penetration does not equal broadband. The article is about broadband connections, not access.

      Not to mention in this study, internet access at the library counts even if you dont even own a home computer. Internet access at work counts even if you don't own a home computer. Etc.
      The ITU subscribes to the definition of an internet user as someone aged 2 years old and above, who went online in the past 30 days. The US Department of Commerce, in contrast, defines internet users as those 3 years or older who 'currently use' the internet. Other market researchers have there own definitions.

      We believe that a basic definition must be as general and as simple as possible. For analyzing and comparing Internet users on a global scale, IWS adopts as its benchmark a broad definition and defines an Internet User as anyone currently in capacity to use the Internet.
      If you read the article all the BBC is claiming is that there are 32 million NEW broadband connections in the US. Be it home or business.
    3. Re:United States 3rd in Internet penetration rate by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What a crock of propaganda.

      The United States is 3rd in total internet penetration rate (68.8%), only behind Sweden(74.6%) and Hong Kong(72.5%).France, Portugal, and Estonia, aren't even in the top 25.


      Those stats can't be taken seriously. I live in Finland, and of all the people I know I can only think about a handful who don't use the Internet. I'd say that's maybe one percent of all the people I know. Those people are all over 70.

      Pretty much everyone in Finland handles their banking transactions (paying bills etc) solely though the Internet. Physically going to the bank is _rare_. Many people have an Internet connection just for paying bills, but they do indeed use the Internet.

      (Sidenote: I've handled two cheques in my whole life, everthing here is handled electronically with inter-bank connections.)

      Now, If 99% of the people I know use the Internet, and the study says 50% of the people I know don't use the Internet I'm going to go with my gut. Sure, there's a hell of a large margin of error with a sample of a single person's expecience, but I find it impossible to believe the deviation could be 49% even if my own top-of-the-head approximations are way off.

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  15. correction by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Informative

    That should be 9 million new connections this year, 32 million total.

  16. Re:Suprise Really? by mattkinabrewmindspri · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The ability to make your sites more content-rich is great, but the extra bandwidth could also mean a lot more sloppy coding from some people, and a lot of unnecessary crap from some people, too.

    Things expand to fill up the space they're given. If a site thinks you have more bandwidth, they'll tend to deliver more bits, even if you don't want those bits.

  17. My downloading shoes by Graymalkin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Now all we need in the US is services that are condusive to actually serving content instead of simply consuming it. I suppose the ridiculous asymmetry of broadband services in the US ought to be expected of a country raised by televisions.

    I've got a broadband connection. It's 3Mbps downstream and 256Kbps upstream. While it is decidedly quicker than a 56k dial-up connection in either direction it is definitely not designed let me serve content at reasonable speeds. Many ports are also blocked at the cable company's head end so I can't use standard service ports (80, 21, etc). I also have to pay an obscene amount of money if I want a static IP address that I can point a DNS entry to.

    Some people do have residential broadband that offers saner upstream bandwidth, no port blocking, and free static IPs. Unfortunately this is not the norm here. Most of us either have to pay for hosting or a "business" service package from our broadband provider. In either case we're paying a lot of money for services that ought to be provided for all broadband users.

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  18. US fears socialism by max+born · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But the US is still behind compared to other nations, ranked 13th in the world by a UN telecoms body.

    Because the US government refuses to invest in infrastructure. Congress believes the road to Internet growth is best left up to private companies.

    I'm definately not for big government, but there are some things only goverment can do. The Internet is a bit like the federal highway system and entrusting its growth to the likes of Comcast and Verizon is a bad idea.

  19. A few more stories you might have missed... by jdfox · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...since the corporate media refuse to report on them.

    The BBC however is hardly free of self-censorship, and its news is presented very much from the point of view of the cliques that run it.

    The best news IMHO is dominated neither by governments nor corporations, but there's not a lot of that around these days, at least not on television or in dailies.