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100 Years of Einstein

spacerabbits writes "A century after Einstein's miracle year, most people still do not understand exactly what it was he did. The Economist tries to elucidate what AE did in a recent article."

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  1. Their you go, Mr. Einstein. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your desk is all squared away. Yep, all squaaaaaaaaaaaared away.

  2. I know this isn't a book review, but... by The_Rippa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you really want to get a handle on what Einstein did and what his work has influenced, I would recommend buying The Elegant Universe by Brian Green. Somehow it found it's way onto my Amazon wishlist a few years ago (I don't remember putting it there), and my mom bought it for me for xmas. I've read about half of it so far and it's amazing stuff. It's about the (super)string theory, which essentially ties together Einstein's theory of relativity and quantum physics. I can feel my brain get bigger as I read it.

    1. Re:I know this isn't a book review, but... by mOoZik · · Score: 5, Informative

      They also have the video programs on PBS, for free viewing. :)

    2. Re:I know this isn't a book review, but... by eobanb · · Score: 2, Informative

      I can highly recommend this book as well. By the way, it's actually Brian GREENE, not Green. But yes, definitely, definitely, check this book out. He mostly talks about string theory but there are also a lot of other ideas discussed, like hidden variable theory (particles which are virtually undetectable directly; the only way we know they're there is that the equations that accurately predict particle behaviour/properties require these variables) and all kinds of other weird things related to this (sparticles, etc). I like this book because it sets much of modern physics down in layman's terms, yet it's comprehensive and informative even to those already familiar with the basics.

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    3. Re:I know this isn't a book review, but... by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > If you really want to get a handle on what Einstein did and what his work has influenced, I
      > would recommend buying The Elegant Universe by Brian Green. Somehow it found it's way onto my
      > Amazon wishlist a few years ago (I don't remember putting it there), and my mom bought it for me for
      > xmas. I've read about half of it so far and it's amazing stuff. It's about the (super)string theory,
      > which essentially ties together Einstein's theory of relativity and quantum physics. I can feel my
      > brain get bigger as I read it.

      And I would recommend that you also take what Green says about string theory with a grain of salt. While he's a good scientist, he like all string theorists, tend to paste over the cracks in string theory. There is no experimental evidence to support string theory, at the moment it just isn't science. He also tends to handwave away difficulties with multiple theories. He is clearly biased towards string theory, and at points I'd say unreasonably biased.

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    4. Re:I know this isn't a book review, but... by ktulu1115 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I have the book as well, excellent read. I first saw the NOVA special on PBS and watched it over and over and over again. Fascinating stuff.

      But yes, Einstein's later years were spend on trying to develop a GUT/TOE (Grand Unified Theory/Theory of Everything), basically a way to combine the smooth gentle macroscopic world of space-time in relativity and the extremely chaotic unpredictible microscopic view of quantum physics. String theory is the closest thing we have to accomplishing that goal, and with geniuses like Ed Witten working on it, I think we stand a good chance of actually discovering/creating such a theory given enough time.

      I digress, but I have to state... the PBS specials are very useful and well put together. Brian Greene does an excellent job hosting the show. I espcially like the part where they first mention Ed, one string theorist says something like "we all think we're pretty smart, and he [Ed Witten] is so much smarter." It's amazing how much raw intelligence you need to really comprehend the underlying mathematical principles behind string theory.

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    5. Re:I know this isn't a book review, but... by albn · · Score: 5, Interesting

      His theories have been the cornerstone of modern Physics, but he is not the only one that has contributed greatly in this field.

      Some notables that come to mind are James Clerk Maxwell for his eletromegnetism and electricity, Tullio Levi Civita for his Absolute Differential Calculus, Wolfgang Pauli, Max Born, and many others.

      The universe is a very interesting place that still holds many secrets that we try to unlock with invariants, tensor fields on manifolds, experiments with atom smashers, detecting gravity waves, metrics, Jacobians, etc.... but the bottom line is, no matter what we discover or think is out there, there will always be more questions than answers.

      Thank you Albert, you have helped open the door to the long question you had with a unified field theory. As with Pauli say himself the solution to a unified field theory is akin to a Titian painting that is still a blank canvas.

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    6. Re:I know this isn't a book review, but... by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wake me up when they've got some data. All the brains in the world won't save a theory that has no supporting evidence.

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    7. Re:I know this isn't a book review, but... by ktulu1115 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, string theory requires some assumptions to be made for their models to work. However, with these assumptions they do a remarkable job of representing the world of quantum physics and relativity. Nothing else we have even comes close.

      And you also have to keep in mind that these theories are extremely oversimplified. We do not possess the power or knowledge to understand the equations in their full form. This was very similar to Einstein's field equations when he first discovered them; I have a feeling in time we will start to grasp the ideas better. Witten himeself claimed that some cynics dubbed his new M-theory for "murky theory" since our understanding of it is so primitive.

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    8. Re:I know this isn't a book review, but... by midav · · Score: 3, Funny
      AFAIK, any theory requires assumptions. Even in math, where they also called axioms.

      For example, in Standard Model you have to make up 19 different shits in your terminology (particle masses and various physical constants) to make it working. String theory requires only one make up shit parameter to make it working (string tension, IIRC.)

    9. Re:I know this isn't a book review, but... by Neil+Rubin · · Score: 2, Informative
      String theory requires only one make up shit parameter to make it working (string tension, IIRC.)
      You only need one parameter (the string tension), but that's just because the low energy behavior of the theory, i.e., what we see in particle accelerators and the like, is determined by how the six/seven extra dimensions of spacetime are "compactified." At the present state of understanding in string theory, the way of compactifying those extra dimensions is entirely arbitrary.

      As far as we know, to replace the standard model with string theory is just to replace 19 arbitrary parameters with an arbitrary compactification, itself perhaps requiring more than 19 parameters to describe.

    10. Re:I know this isn't a book review, but... by Decaff · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is a somewhat strange position (even for a philosopher,) since the whole philosophy of physics is, that it is infinities that are not natural. That is the problem with infinitely small electron, infinitely small distances etc. Which means that even fundamental building blocks of Nature must have property as finite spacial extent, energy density or information content.

      The infinities are nothing to do with nature - they are to do with the mathematics that are used to model nature. They result from the way we model forces.

      The problem with String theory is that it uses the term 'fundamental' for entities which are composite: they have end parts and non-end parts, so are not, by definition, fundamental. They also vibrate, so (at least in some sense) have parts which move relative to other parts. This seems highly paradoxical and recursive - after all, particle physics is supposed to explain features such as vibration, extension and tension in macroscopic objects. A theory which requires these features would seem to require a deeper level of explanation.

      I have no idea what a fundamental theory should look like. Perhaps something like Mark Hadley's ideas of building all particles out of spacetime is simple enough.

    11. Re:I know this isn't a book review, but... by |/|/||| · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Yeah, unlike all of the actual facts that we have, like...

      Oh yeah, all we have are theories.

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    12. Re:I know this isn't a book review, but... by lawpoop · · Score: 2, Insightful
      As I was taught by my high school Christan Creationist science/astronomy teacher (who was a great science teacher, not a whacko in any respect) a hypothesis must do two things in order to be considered a theory: 1. explain the past and 2. make predictions.

      As I understand, no one has though up any predictions based on string 'theory'. Since we have no predictions, we have no experiments. If we have no experiments, we have no falsification. If we have no falsification, we do not have science.

      As it stands, string theory holds no more scientific weight than the idea that we live in the matrix, or that reality is the dream of Indra. All of these can reasonably explain the past. However, once we have a prediction that can potientially be discredited through an experiment, then we have science. Currently , string theory, like the Matrix or Indra's dream, make no falsifiable prediction.

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  3. Einstein has one thing to say... by mOoZik · · Score: 4, Funny
  4. Relativity In Words of Four Letters or Less by The_Rippa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Albert Einstein's Theory of Relativity

    In Words of Four Letters or Less

    [ 0 ]

    So, have a seat. Put your feet up. This may take some time. Can I get you some tea? Earl Grey? You got it.

    Okay. How do I want to do this? He did so much. It's hard to just dive in. You know? You pick a spot to go from, but soon you have to back up and and go over this or that item, and you get done with that only to see that you have to back up some more. So if you feel like I'm off to the side of the tale half the time, well, this is why. Just bear with me, and we'll get to the end in good time. Okay?

    Okay. Let's see....

    [ I ]

    Say you woke up one day and your bed was gone. Your room, too. Gone. It's all gone. You wake up in an inky void. Not even a star. Okay, yes, it's a dumb idea, but just go with it. Now say you want to know if you move or not. Are you held fast in one spot? Or do you, say, list off to the left some? What I want to ask you is: Can you find out? Hell no. You can see that, sure. You don't need me to tell you. To move, you have to move to or away from ... well, from what? You'd have to say that you don't even get to use a word like "move" when you are the only body in that void. Sure. Okay.

    Now, let's add the bed back. Your bed is with you in the void. But not for long -- it goes away from you. You don't have any way to get it back, so you just let it go. But so now we have a body in the void with you. So does the bed move, or do you move? Or both? Well, you can see as well as I that it can go any way you like. Flip a coin. Who's to say? It's best to just say that you move away from the bed, and that the bed goes away from you. No one can say who's held fast and who isn't.

    Now, if I took the bed back but gave you the sun -- just you and the sun in the void, now -- I'll bet you'd say that the sun is so big, next to you, that odds are you move and not the sun. It's easy to move a body like ours, and not so easy to kick a sun to and fro. But that isn't the way to see it. Just like with the bed, no one can say who's held fast.

    In a word, you can't find any one true "at rest". Izzy was the one who told us that. Izzy said that you can't tell if you move or are at rest at any time. You can say that you go and all else is at rest, or you can say that you are at rest and all else goes. It all adds up the same both ways. So we all knew that much from way back when.

    Aha, but now wait! The sun puts off rays! So: why not look at how fast the rays go past you? From that you'd see how fast you move, yes? For you see, rays move just the same if what puts them off is held fast or not. (Make a note of that, now.) Izzy had no way to know that, back then, but it's true. Rays all move the same. We call how fast that is: c. So, you can see how fast the rays go by you, and how far off that is from c will tell you how fast you move! Hell, you don't even need the sun for that. You can just have a lamp with you -- the one by your bed that you use to read by. You can have that lamp in your hand, and see how fast the rays go by you when you turn it on. The lamp will move with you, but the rays will move at c. You will see the rays move a bit more or less than c, and that will be how fast you move. An open-and-shut case, yes?

    Well, and so we went to test this idea out. Hey, you don't need to be in a void to do this test. We move all the time, even as we sit here. We spin, in fact. So they shot some rays off and took note of how fast they went east, and how fast they went west, and so on. Well, what do you know? The rays went just as fast both ways. All ways, in fact. They all went at c, just the same. Not an iota more or less.

    To say that we were less than glad to find that out is to be kind. It blew the mind, is more like it. "What is up with that?" we said. And here is when old Al came in.

    [ II ]

    Old Al, he came out the blue and said, "Not only do rays move at c if what puts them out is held fast or not: they move at

    1. Re:Relativity In Words of Four Letters or Less by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      For a bunch of four-letter-words, "fuck" and "shit" are used very sparsely. Please revise. One has certain expectations, as I'm sure you understand.

  5. Speaking of people understanding by bradleyland · · Score: 5, Funny

    I asked 7 people in my office what elucidate meant. Only one person knew, some shrugged, and one asked me if that was really a word *sigh*

    1. Re:Speaking of people understanding by nizo · · Score: 4, Funny
      My favorite quote from the article:
      Once one learns the complex mathematical language required to express his ideas, Einstein's theories are the simplest and most obvious of any in physics.

      And ummm, how many semesters of college level mathematics must one pass to really understand what he is saying?

    2. Re:Speaking of people understanding by FarmerDave · · Score: 2, Funny

      elucidate: What Ricky had before he and Lucy were married.

      Fred: Ricky, whatcha doing tonight?
      Ricky: I've got elucidate.

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    3. Re:Speaking of people understanding by RangerRick98 · · Score: 2, Funny

      ouch. you need better cow-workers ...for better milk!

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    4. Re:Speaking of people understanding by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why don't you elucidate, and I'll get a cloth and mop it up.

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    5. Re:Speaking of people understanding by benwb · · Score: 2, Informative

      The general theory requires the solution of partial differential equations best expressed as tensors, and further requires knowledge of differential geometry. The special theory on the other hand just requires some basic calc...

    6. Re:Speaking of people understanding by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, this was from the economist. Most people are barely up to USA Today.

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    7. Re:Speaking of people understanding by Gromius · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Thing I love about Special Relativity is that the maths is no more than the high school level yet the implications are astounding (space and time dilation and all that). All the college maths in the world wont help you understand special relativity. Try deriving it some time for fun, the clasical way is working out how long a light ray takes to bounce of the roof inside a moving train for a person in the train and a person outside the train. Its strangly satisfing and like all great theorys, mindboggling obvious once you actually see it. General Relativity on the other hand...

    8. Re:Speaking of people understanding by sqlgeek · · Score: 4, Funny
      Hmm, lets see:

      Calc I, II & III

      Differential Equations

      Partial Differential Equations

      Abstract Algebra

      Higher Algebra I (and maybe II, depending on your school)

      Topology I (and maybe II)

      Differential Geometry

      And then I believe you're ready for Tensor Calculus and rudimentary Gauge Theory.

      Now just where is it that they cover this in high school?

      Scott

    9. Re:Speaking of people understanding by iabervon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It doesn't take much math to understand what he's saying. To work out the consequences, on the other hand, can take a lot. (But something like the view of magnetism as a consequence of special relativity applied to electricity only takes about half a term of calculus beyond the Calc BC AP exam; MIT has a first-term physics course which covers it).

      In fact, Feynmann's QED (Quantum ElectroDynamics) doesn't require any tricky math to explain Einstein's more counterintuitive stuff.

  6. As a Physics/Comp Sci Major... by TJ_Phazerhacki · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I can honestly say that, even a hundred years later, Ein never ceases to amaze me. Just gotta wonder some times - what would have hapened without him? We were so close to losing him.


    We need a National Holiday - Physicists Day - On his Birthday!

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  7. Another good book and thoughts by Manan+Shah · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Another good book is 'Relativity and Common Sense'. It explains the logical progression from Newton to Einstein. It starts off with Gravity, newtonian principles and then starts adding twists. However, I think that quantom mechanics probably was a bigger discovery than Einstein. The concept of chance at the atomic level was a revelation, and even Einstein had trouble accepting it. However, we can only hope that within our lifetime, someone will succeed in crafting the 'THeory of Everything' which combines theory of large objects such as Planets, galaxies of Einstein with the theory of small things such as atoms of quantam mechanics. Maybe M (string theory) is the answer, maybe not. But these are exciting times we live in!

    1. Re:Another good book and thoughts by Ignignot · · Score: 2, Informative

      It should be noted that einstein won the nobel prize for his work on the photoelectric effect, which is a part of quantum mechanics.

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  8. Old relativity joke by fm6 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Old Man to his grandson: All you talk about is this Einstein and his relativity. What is this "relativity"?

    Grandson (who hasn't a clue, but can't admit it): Well, you see, relative to me, you're old, but relative to a sea turtle, you're young...

    (Long silence.)

    Old Man: So. From this, your Einstein makes a living?

    1. Re:Old relativity joke by StrQSt400 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nature and nature's laws lay hid in night,
      God said, "Let Newton be," and all was light.
      Alexander Pope
      It did not last; the devil howling "Ho! Let Einstein be!"
      restored the status quo.
      Sir John Collings Squire

  9. Einstein hated? by teiresias · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I had a physics professor who hated Einstein and seemed to imply that there was a large faction of the scientific community who did as well. I'm not sure if this is from popularity or some honest to God issue he/they might have had with him. And I don't think I'll be able to find that out from this article since it seems to be singing most of his praises.

    Any ideas?

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    1. Re:Einstein hated? by jamesoutlaw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not surprising that you had a professor who hated Einstein. Scientists are notorious for hating one another- often for absurd reasons- but also often out of jealousy or simply from a difference of "professional" opinion. I once knew two research engineering professors, from the same department, who would try to get each others research grants cancelled simply because they disagreed on some theories.

    2. Re:Einstein hated? by parker9 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      it's not that physicists hate Einstein, it's more they hate how people view Einstein. it's mostly because Einstein became the poster-boy for the media about modern physics. as we know, the media tends to simplify things and so it suggests that Einstein did relativity, photoelectric effect, etc. by himself.

      given that Newton said he had seen far only because he stood on the shoulders of giants, Einstein is even more indebted to others before and during his time.

      look, i'm not saying that he wasn't a remarkable physicist- when i read some of his papers, i do feel like i'm reading something that's very close to 'god'- so clear, so elegant, so beautiful.

      yes, i am a physicist. and yes, i do find myself using Einstein's results. i'm glad when it happens, because i *feel* i'm close to reality.

    3. Re:Einstein hated? by Pchelka · · Score: 2, Insightful

      it's not that physicists hate Einstein, it's more they hate how people view Einstein. it's mostly because Einstein became the poster-boy for the media about modern physics. as we know, the media tends to simplify things and so it suggests that Einstein did relativity, photoelectric effect, etc. by himself.

      I once participated in a seminar on "Women in Science" where we talked about the "Marie Curie Effect" as a reason why more women do not pursue careers in science. Because Marie Curie was such an outstanding scientist in a time when there were only a handful of women scientists around the world, people started expecting any woman who tried to pursue a career in science to make earth-shattering discoveries like Marie Curie did. Rather than improving the situation for women scientists, Marie Curie's success actually made it worse.

      Most scientists, whether they are male or female, will never make the kinds of discoveries that are worthy of a Nobel prize or a lot of media attention. Most of us just plug away each day, making small advances that might eventually contribute to the next great paradigm shift (or not!). When a physicist says they hate Einstein or Curie, or when an astronomer says they hate Sagan, the real reason could be that they dislike the way the rest of the world sees these scientists. No real scientist can live up to the fantasy images of these people presented by the mass media and popular culture. It's kind of like the way real women don't look like the supermodels in Sports Illustrated, and most men aren't like the muscular athletes who get paid millions of dollars to advertise shoes.

    4. Re:Einstein hated? by Quino · · Score: 2, Informative

      The problem with Einstein (if you can call it a problem) is that he *was* the most important physicist since Newton.

      He stands completely unchallenged in the scope and quantity of contributions he's made to physics. He's the poster boy not because of the media, but because to this day the problems he couldn't solve are the problems we're still working on today, and no one single-handedly has so much changed the way we look at the universe (except for Newton).

      At least for him, he _was_ "the opera singer super model brain surgeon sports star" of physics.

      I've linked this article a lot (I think it's fascinating), but it specifically talks about physicists trying to "measure up" to other greats. But, trying to measure up against Einstein is a sort of dream:

      http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/genius/

    5. Re:Einstein hated? by Pchelka · · Score: 2, Informative

      I totally agree with parker9! Einstein's contributions to science were important, but people seem to think that he did his work completely alone and without building upon the work done by other noteworthy scientists. If you believe what you see in the popular media (I consider anything on PBS to be part of the popular media), Einstein invented ALL of physics. This is totally untrue!

      Most physicists, and anyone who has taken a college course in the history of science, realize that Einstein was not the only great physicist of the 19th and 20th century. What about Fermi, Bohr, Gamov, Bethe, Heisenberg, Meitner and Schroedinger to name a few? All of these people had a hand in developing quantum mechanics, which was just as revolutionary as Einstein's theory of relativity.

      It was Otto Hahn who received the 1944 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for discovering nuclear fission of heavy nuclei, not Albert Einstein. However, if you ask any person on the street, they would probably attribute this discovery to Einstein (assuming they know what nuclear fission is!) as well as the development of quantum mechanics.

      I doubt that Einstein would appreciate being called "the opera singer super model brain surgeon sports star." The things I have read about Einstein suggest that while he was very opinionated (what scientist isn't) he was also quite humble and gave credit to other scientists where credit was due. Einstein just happened to come along at the right time, when the groundwork for scientific revolution in many areas of physics had been gradually laid out throughout the 19th century. Einstein's greatest contributions were not his original ideas, but the novel way he was able to put together the work of those who came before him.

      The nature of science has changed considerably since Einstein did his theoretical work. There still are a few theorists who work mostly on their own, sitting at a desk with a piece of paper and a pencil, thinking deep thoughts. There are also still a few experimental physicists (mainly condensed matter) who do meaningful laboratory work in small collaborations with only a few people. However, most scientists today cannot do their work without massive computing power or huge experiments that involve collaborating with large groups of other scientists. Take a look at the how the lengths of physics Ph.D. theses have changed over the last 50 years. In our library, many of the Ph.D. theses from the 60s and 70s are less than 100 pages long. My Ph.D. thesis was a whopping 200 pages, and many other recent theses are of similar length.

      I don't think there will ever be another scientist like Einstein (or Newton or Galileo for that matter) who can single-handedly change the way we think about the universe with his or her research. The problems scientists are studying today are so big that one person cannot possibly hope to solve them all alone. Expecting every scientist to be an "Einstein" is extremely insulting, since there are so many people who are brilliant in their own way.

      I don't want to be an "Einstein" anyway - he had bad hair and no fashion sense! His personal life was pretty messed up too.

    6. Re:Einstein hated? by parker9 · · Score: 2

      launched QM? i think Planck would disagree. he was the one who first postulated that photons came in discrete (i.e. quantum) frequencies. he didn't say why, but it did explain experimental facts and the clear failure of Maxwell's equations. what Einstein did was to accept the quantization and showed it explained the photoelectric effect. suddenly Planck's conjecture seemed to be more than just conjecture.

      as for cosmology, yes, he replaced Newtons framework with relativity. but relativity was already contained within Maxwell's equations. he was the one that saw that. once that is explained, the rest 'falls out' (excuse the pun). once he had special relativity (which deals w/ reference frames not accelerating- i.e. inertial), it was clear there had to be general relativity (i.e. non-inertial reference frames). again, his great insight was that acceleration and gravitation was the same thing (something that every freshmen in physic courses assume when they write down F=ma and then say F=G m M /r^2- there is no reason to assume the two "m"'s are the same).

      Einstein didn't show that the 'basic assumptions' were wrong. he gave a different interpretation of what the theories were saying. He didn't throw away anything. you can derive Netwon from relativity by going to the correct limits.

      once again, i'm not dishing Einstein in any respect. his insights were absolutely fabulous. at the same time, if it wasn't him, it would have been another (or others).

  10. having taken quantum mechanics courses... by eobanb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...I can certainly appreciate Einstein's sheer genius, particularly when it came to relativity. It was Einstein who postulated that, essentially, absolutely everything was relative. You hear all the examples about going around the sun in a spaceship really fast, or the twins paradox, but it doesn't really just stop there. There are all kinds of weird things that happen when you go really fast; for example, your size changes. If I'm driving my car really really fast (and of course, we're talking close to the speed of light), my vehicle actually becomes shorter. Then as I slow down, it stretches out again. At the beginning of the 20th century, no doubt what a lot of Einstein proposed sounded like sheer madness.

    In his later years, though, Einstein became increasingly conservative and very resistant to the idea of uncertainty, formulated by Bohr and Heisenberg. Einstein, from a generation of research before these two scientists, was still a determinist; he believed that you could not only discover both the position and velocity (speed and direction) of a particle, but that if you knew all such properties of all particles, you could accurately predict the state of things far in the future. I became disappointed with Einstein when I learned that, in the late 30s and 40s, even when faced with overwhelming evidence to support the ontic and epistemic uncertainty principles, Einstein tried lots of clever thought experiments to prove them wrong, even though they all relied on knowing more than one mutually incompatible property at once. I think Einstein contributed a lot, but he also made a lot of mistakes later in his life.

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    1. Re:having taken quantum mechanics courses... by Skynet · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Whether they were mistakes or not, Einstein became sort of the sounding board for developments in theoretical physics. So whether he "agreed" with the ideas posed by quantum physics or not, he certainly helped drive research along with his constant challenges of other scientist's work.

      Plus, it's interesting to note that alot of his "mistakes", like the cosmological constant, are gaining support once again with developments derived out of superstring theory like extra dimensions and dark matter/energy.

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    2. Re:having taken quantum mechanics courses... by Agilis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Everyone's free to believe what they believe and to try to prove it to the opposition. Heck, isn't that the spirit of peer review?

      Science is all about changing the theory if something comes up in nature that's not properly predicted, so I believe that there is still alot of value in having one of the greatest minds around throw all of his ability at trying to find flaws in quantum mechanics, and utterly failing to do so.

      He may not have been right in not believing in the truth of quantum mechanics, but who else could come up with those 'clever thought experiments' that could have potentially been the 1 case the breaks the theory?

    3. Re:having taken quantum mechanics courses... by 31415926535897 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here is the real quote from your paraphrase:

      "Quantum mechanics is very impressive. But an inner voice tells me that it is not yet the real thing. The theory yields a lot, but it hardly brings us any closer to the secret of the Old One. In any case I am convinced that He doesn't play dice."
      -Einstein

      I think this is one of the most misunderstood quotes. Einstein is saying that yes, the models we have for understanding QM are incredibly accurate, but he doesn't feel like the models we have derived are 'the answer.' He is saying that just because the best we can do to predict QM events is with a probabalistic model does not mean that God does not know what is going to happen to each subatomic particle.

      Also, on a side note, I feel that uncertainty is necessary for there to be a God. QM uncertainty is the physical means to a free will which allows us the ability to accept or reject God.

  11. Curl oneliner by Carthag · · Score: 4, Informative

    This works if your browser doesn't insert spaces after each line. Otherwise you'll have to remove them by hand. If I remember correctly it's a couple hundred megs.

    curl -f "http://a768.g.akamai.net/5/768/142/3f9e\
    9589/1a 1a1afb6ae049ae214fc034aad839a9198\
    5ea187bea5786f 362d841a61948bf2688f01f87fb\
    6fdf0e7ceb61c22186fb /nova_eu_30[12-14]c[01-\
    08]_mp4_300.mov" -O

    The joys of curl | strings :)

  12. Re:elucidate by 0racle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, I find it somewhat ironic that a word that means to explain requires an explination and is not clear at all.

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    "I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are."
  13. even non-geeks appreciate him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    For example, this on-air quote:

    "There are no geniuses [among coaches] in the National Football League. A genius is someone like Norman Einstein."

    - ESPN commentator Joe Theismann

  14. Einstein Quotes by mabu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here are some Einstein quotes from Wisdomtoday.com - a daily quote e-mail:

    Strange is our situation here on earth. Each of us comes for a short visit, not knowing why, yet sometimes seeming to divine a purpose. From the standpoint of daily life, however, there is one thing we do know: that man is here for the sake of other men - above all for those upon whose smiles and well-being our own happiness depends.
    - Albert Einstein

    I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own - a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms.
    - Albert Einstein

    As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.
    - Albert Einstein

    Make things as simple as possible, but no simpler.
    - Albert Einstein

    Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal.
    - Albert Einstein

    The significant problems we face can not be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.
    - Einstein

    It is easier to denature plutonium than to denature the evil spirit of man.
    - Albert Einstein

    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from that of their social environment.
    - Albert Einstein

    The important thing is not to stop questioning.
    - Albert Einstein

  15. You're too hard on Einstein! by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What if he were right and one of his clever though experiements did prove them wrong?

    In his time he couldn't KNOW he was right or wrong, he just hoped he was right.

    It's only in hindsight can you say, "he also made a lot of mistakes later in his life," but if you were there, then, you would STILL be dwarfed, I think, by his genius. It's only unfortunate that his genius didn't extend to embrace QM, but he honestly thought they were wrong, too.

    1. Re:You're too hard on Einstein! by Quino · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I Agree.

      according to:

      http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/genius/

      "Einstein's work anchors the most shocking idea in twentieth century physics: we live in a quantum universe, one built out of tiny, discrete chunks of energy and matter."

      "Before anyone else, Einstein recognizes the essential dualism in nature, the co-existence of particles and waves at the level of quanta. In 1911 he declares resolving the quantum issue to be the central problem of physics."

      He disliked the theory, he didn't disbelieve it -- it was his search for a more fundamental theory that led him to the ground work that string theory is based on. Basically, unless someone can prove that string theories are wrong (or that there will never be a grand unified theory), you can't really say Einstein was "wrong" about quantum mechanics. For him to be wrong, QM would have to be the final and most fundamental explanation of our universe -- he felt there was more underneath that could explain QM (like the grand unified theory). AFAIK that's still the "cutting edge" physicists are working on still today.

      Fascinating article, btw. Apparently, the questions he couldn't answer still define to this day the cutting edge of physics. That, and the fact that no other physicist has had as long a ride in the cutting edge is why Einstein is remembered as the greatest physicist since Newton.

  16. General Theory of Relativity in two lines by fromme · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Space tells matter how to move. Matter tells space how to curve.

    The best definition I've found till date. If you can wrap your head around that, you're in the clear!

    1. Re:General Theory of Relativity in two lines by sharkey · · Score: 2, Funny
      Space tells matter how to move. Matter tells space how to curve.

      And the Heart of Gold tells space to get bent.

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      "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
  17. Invariance and Statistics by radtea · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From the article:

    Abraham Pais, a physicist who wrote what is generally regarded as the definitive scientific biography of Einstein, said of his subject that there are two things at which he was "better than anyone before or after him; he knew how to invent invariance principles and how to make use of statistical fluctuations."

    This is a great one-line summary of what made Einstein an outstanding physicist.

    The use of invariance principles is still finding its way slowly into other subjects. Jaynes' work on probability is an excellent example of the power of invariance principles--he derives all of probability theory from a few basic postulates, including the condition that conclusions be invariant under transformations in the path used to reach them.

    --Tom

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  18. Biblical proportions by Dorsai65 · · Score: 3, Funny

    And God said "sqrt(e/m)=c" - and there was light.

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    --- Asking inconvenient questions for over 30 years...
    1. Re:Biblical proportions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      About your sig... for the same reason, you are not eating your girlfriend....oh wait

    2. Re:Biblical proportions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Photons have no mass. E=mc^2 doesn't apply to light.

  19. Sorry, but... by dsci · · Score: 2, Informative

    I haven't read the book you mention, but I did catch PART of the Nova on PBS.

    IMHO, it was overproduced drek. It was absolutely the worst NOVA I've ever seen. Dumbed down physics and cutesy graphics and music. I had to turn it off, I just could not take it. Certainly not of the standard I've come to expect from Nova.

    I had a string theorist on my Thesis Committee in grad school, and he asked some pretty interesting questions during my Oral Exam. It's a fascinating field, but if you have to dumb it down that far to make it popular and interesting (which I don't believe), save it for those who care to listen.

    That said, it's hard for me to take Brian Greene very seriously. But, I bet he's better at math than me, and not by just a little bit. ;)

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    1. Re:Sorry, but... by xtermin8 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think they do have to dumb down modern physics that much. I bet most people watched it for the cutesy graphics and snob factor than to really learn anything about string theory. You quote the Simpsons in your sig- How do you think Matt Groening would try to present String Theory? How many would watch the Simpsons if he didn't dress his clever cynical insights with juvenile potty humor?

    2. Re:Sorry, but... by ViolentGreen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think they do have to dumb down modern physics that much

      Well if they had gone through a bunch of calculations, I would have gotten nothing out of it and probably wouldn't have spent more than 5 minutes on it. This program was not meant to explain string theory to physicists; it was targeted at people who have a basic knowledge of physics or less. The intention was not to show how the theory was formed but to give an overview of it.

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      Not everything is analogous to cars. Car analogies rarely work.
  20. Note: "Herb" actually refers to Hermann Minkowski. by stkpogo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Note: "Herb" actually refers to Hermann Minkowski. (And "Izzy" and "Ari" are, of course, Isaac Newton and Aristotle.)
    http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/txt/al.html

  21. Patent Clerk?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    But wait, Einstein started out as a patent clerk. Aren't we supposed to hate him for that?

    I'm so confused......

  22. Recommended reading.. by mabu · · Score: 4, Informative

    For laypeople, I think the best book introducing Einstein's theories in an understandable way is Relativity Visualized by L. Epstein.

  23. Some highlights from my annus mirabilis.... by mogrify · · Score: 3, Funny

    ate a pound of pasta in one sitting

    avoided every single episode of Fear Factor

    bowled a 150 game

    watched the entire Godfather trilogy, pausing only to switch discs

    obeyed nearly all traffic laws

    finally cleaned out the laundry room

    played Civ II for 13 hours straight

    washed the car

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    perl -e 'foreach(values %SIG){$_="IGNORE";}while(){}'
  24. thats because by Striker770S · · Score: 3, Insightful

    most people still do not understand exactly what it was he did thats because the average person has the thought capacity of a 4th grader. I mean hell, many people still believe the world was created around 6000 years ago on a given sunday by some guy. That kills me.

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    I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. - Catcher in the Rye
  25. Don't forget Poincaré by cy_a253 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The french mathematician Henri Poincaré anticipated Einstein by a full 8 years with his 1897 "The Relativity of Space" paper.

    http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosop hy/works/fr/poincare.htm

    What he describes in his paper is quite similar to the Special Relativity of Einstein, although he does not explain it as clearly and as completely as Einstein does. But why history keeps him the shadow I'll never understand.

    1. Re:Don't forget Poincaré by Jonathan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, you'll probably get some flack from right-wingers for linking to a Marxist site, but whatever the politics Poincare certainly deserves some recognition. But still, much like Alfred Wallace, who discovered natural selection independently of Darwin but didn't want it to apply to humans, Poincare didn't really recognize how relativity changed everything. An in any case, what Poincare discovered was really only a form of Special Relativity. It was General Relativity which really made Einstein famous.

    2. Re:Don't forget Poincaré by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What about Bernhard Riemann? A hundred years before Einstein, he laid out the entire field of relativistic geometry in a single, brilliantly short and lucid paper. Again, his only gap seems to be that he didn't publicize, nor did he translate it to the 'real world'.

      Given Einstein's lack of aptitude for maths (Minkowski was his maths teacher and had told him he 'would not come to anything'), would he have been able to come up with Relativity if Riemann hadn't written 'On The Hypotheses that lie at the Fundamentals of Geometry' long years ago?

    3. Re:Don't forget Poincaré by radtea · · Score: 4, Informative


      David Bohm's excellent primer, "Special Relativity" (available in Dover paperback) gives a very good summary of the situation prior to Einstein's 1905 paper. Essentially, every result that Einstein's theory gave (including the famous E = mc**2, which was published by Heaviside in 1892!) had been arrived at previously by Poincare' and others as necessary consequences of a particular dynamical interpretation of Maxwell's electro-magentic theory.

      Einstein's revolution was the derivation of the same results via a kinematical restatement of mechanical laws. Dynamics deals with the causes of motion, kinematics with the description of motion. The "old" relativity assumed that there were real forces acting to squeeze matter so that rods got short and clocks ran slow. Einstein's relativity showed that the same results followed immediately from adopting a particular, consistent, description of motion based on two assumptions (the constancy of the speed of light and the invariance of the laws of nature under changes of velocity.)

      One of the consequences of Einstein's theory is that when we discovered matter that does not participate in electro-magentic interactions, such as neutrinos, we could confidently treat it using relativistic mechanics. The old relativity, in contrast, only applied to charged particles.

      It is a remarkable and still interesting fact that so much of what Einstein explained can be explained by alternative means within the context of Newtonian dynamics, although the explanations are much less general and much harder to understand.

      --Tom

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      Blasphemy is a human right. Blasphemophobia kills.
  26. Simpsons vs. Nova by dsci · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think it is a matter of target audience. The Simpsons is on a major 'pop' broadcast network and specifically targets people for whom potty humor is (part of) the draw. Personally, I do like The Simpsons for it's subtlety.

    Nova, otoh, has set itself up as a cut above the 'for the masses' standard. I've watched that show since high school (early 80's), and I remember specifics from specific episodes. It was produced to be informative first, and if pop style entertainment was a goal at all, it was far down on the list.

    I've also witnessed what I believe to be a general degradation of Nova in this respect. This is just my opinion, mind you, but I think Nova is but a faint shadow of its former self.

    To put this into a broader perspective, I also happen to believe the 'making science fun' in the classroom is partially responsible for the overall degradation in science education here in the US. I've taught my classes without that maxim, and proudly achieved my (only) stated goal of actually making sure my students finished the semester with more knowledge than they had at the start.

    Iconoclastic, I know.

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  27. Re:Small Error by superstick58 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Perhaps they were referring to the discrete energy levels in an atom. An atom emits a photon when an electron falls from a higher energy level to a lower one. The frequency of the photon is determined by the bandgap energy (E in your equation) of the atom for the transition of the electron. Each type of element has only certain discrete bandgaps thus it can only produce certain discrete wavelengths. This is how you explain the various spectra of different elements.

    Granted if you examine all elements you may be able to discover a continuous variation of wavelengths. However, when examining INDIVIDUAL elements it is clear that only discrete wavelengths may be produced.

    On a side note, some (negligible)variance in the wavelengths of a spectrum can occur due to the uncertainty of the energy levels, and other phenomenon such as the doppler effect(electron is moving fast when it releases an electron in the direction of motion thus the frequency is increased).

  28. Read Einstein himself! by turboalberta · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have found out that reading the original papers of Einstein elucidates a lot more than the whole of literature that's been wasted on the subject to introduce people to the ideas. Start with "Relativity : The Special and the General Theory" which is an introduction for everybody who followed math in highschool a little decently. Then read "The principle of relativity" published by Dover. You can buy both for $14.36 on amazon. I found those very understandable and I'm certainly no math wizard.

    Einstein was a marvellous educator and his writing on the subject is way better than almost anybody else (except for Feynmann maybe).

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    I sometimes think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. -- Oscar Wilde
  29. sciscoop too by apsmith · · Score: 2, Informative

    We attempted to elucidate Einstein's miracle year last week, but I have to admit the Economist did a nice job on this article.

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    Energy: time to change the picture.

  30. Attribution by RedWizzard · · Score: 4, Informative

    It appears to come from here.

  31. Mythos inside and outside physics... by jpflip · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First off, I'm a physics grad student with nothing but the utmost respect for Einstein's work, and I make use of it's consequences frequently. He did some of the most beautiful stuff in the history of physics. Nonetheless, I think that his mythos may have arguably had a detrimental effect on theoretical physics and its public perception.

    When asked what he would have thought if solar eclipse had not confirmed general relativity, Einstein famously responded something like he "would have been sorry for the dear Lord - the theory is correct!". The general picture people have is that Einstein sat in a room, thought really hard, and figured out how the world was supposed to be without ever needing to go out and LOOK at it. This idea has inspired generations of young physicists to think that the "real" route to truth about the world is mathematical insight. Over the ensuing century, however, this has essentially never been the case - the biggest breakthroughs generally come when an experiment sees something weird (i.e. discovers new particles or behaviors) and a theorist comes up with a mathematical picture that makes all the weird observations fit together. Experiments are still important - it's not just Plato sitting in his cave imagining how the world ought to be. Beautiful mathematical models of fundamental physics very frequently turn out to be experimentally wrong!

    Outside of physics, the public image of Einstein has arguably breathed life into the legions of crackpots who think they know the theory of everything, claim that quantum mechanics is "obviously" wrong, etc. Everyone learns in school that Einstein was terrible at mathematics growing up and that he did his best work as a patent clerk, not at a university. Many people are encouraged by this, thinking that the best work comes from "outside the system" and need not involve a thorough understanding of the details of current science.

    Unfortunately, this is not true. Einstein was quite good at mathematics (had he been a bit more versed in fancy Reimannian geometry, however, general relativity might have happened faster). He had a Ph.D. from one of the world's most prestigious grad schools. He was working as a patent clerk to pay the bills simply because he hadn't yet gotten a teaching job (they were scarce, and even in later years Einstein never did much teaching).

    The point is that he knew his stuff (experimental results and current theory). Too many people think they can walk in off the street with no substantial knowledge of physics or mathematics and give a "common sense" alternative to modern physics that doesn't involve any of the "hard stuff". It usually turns out that their work contradicts some experimental result that they never bothered to learn about. I often see e-mails about such ideas that cite Einstein as an example of how an outsider with no knowledge can change a field. In principle, a gifted outsider with a new insight can change any field. In practice (as Einstein shows), it's good to know what others know first.

  32. GR, Einstein, Grossman, Hilbert and Plagiarism by Baldrson · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Another article from the UK Register discusses some apparent shenannigans surrounding the theory of General Relativity.

    The money quote:

    "My analysis of Hilbert's mutilated proofs therefore cannot prove that Einstein copied from Hilbert," he says. "It proves less, which is that it cannot be proved that Einstein could not have copied from Hilbert. But it proves that Hilbert had not copied from Einstein, as it has been insinuated following the paper by Corry, Renn and Stachel."

    The original paper by Prof. Winterbottom was published but a rebuttal to that paper by Corry, Renn and Stachel was not.

  33. INSTEAD READ EINSTEIN AS PLAGIARIST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." -- Albert Einstein

    The name "Einstein" evokes images of genius, but was Albert Einstein, in fact, a plagiarist, who copied the theories of Lorentz, Poincare, Gerber, and Hilbert? A scholarly documentation of Albert Einstein's plagiarism of the theory of relativity,
    "Albert Einstein: The Incorrigible Plagiarist" discloses Einstein's method for manipulating credit for the work of his contemporaries, reprints the prior works he parroted, and demonstrates through formal logical argument that Albert Einstein could not have drawn the conclusions he drew without prior knowledge of the works he copied, but failed to reference. Numerous republished quotations from Einstein's contemporaries prove that they were aware of his plagiarism.

    Many people may have been misled by the tactless and prejudiced account of the history of the Hilbert-Einstein equations of gravity published in 1997 by Leo Corry (Cohn Institute, University of Tel-Aviv) and John Stachel (Director of the Center of Einstein Studies, Boston). The "objectivity" of that account is well demonstrated by the fact that Corry and Stachel "forgot" to mention that the set of galley proofs of the fundamental Hilbert's paper that they analyzed was incomplete and was missing a critical part. The wonderful book "Anticipations of Einstein in the General Theory of Relativity" by Bjerknes is a perfect remedy to Corry and Stachel's "discovery" and their attempt to further cultivate the cult of personality of Einstein at the expense of Hilbert. The book is thoroughly and meticulously documented and leaves only one way to counter it: by silencing it or by labeling the author as Einstein-hater (or worse) and changing the subject. Especially valuable is the section reproducing the original publications, including the (incomplete) galley proofs of the Hilbert's paper. If after having read this book someone still thinks that Corry and Stachel understand physics well enough to write about the history of general relativity then I would recommend the paper by A. A. Logunov et al., "How were the Hilbert-Einstein equations discovered?" Physics-Uspekhi, vol. 47, pp. 607-621 (2004) (in English).

  34. For Those Experiencing Failures by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Informative
    Copy this URL to the clipboard and do:
    curl -f -C - -O pasteurlhere
    -C - lets you rerun the command as many times as needed to fix dropped transfers.

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    OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)