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IBM Grid Near 50,000 machines - Slashdot Users #13

another similar writes "IBM's World Community Grid is off to a roaring start. Since kicking off six weeks ago (original Slashdot story), the grid has grown to almost 36,000 users with almost 50,000 machines. Growth continues as more media coverage hits. There is a team of Slashdot users - currently ranked 13th in points with only 79 members. If you have spare cycles, download the software, join us and crank for medicine. For those of you with dual processor systems, you'll have to use a homebrewed tool - beyond two is not supported yet. Alas, you also have to be running Redmond's finest. According to their FAQ, a Linux client is slated for development in 2005."

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  1. Only 79 /.ers in six weeks. What does that say? by IO+ERROR · · Score: 5, Funny
    There is a team of Slashdot users - currently ranked 13th in points with only 79 members. . . . Alas, you also have to be running Redmond's finest.

    Which is why there are only 79 /.ers signed up. When they get the Linux client, they'll get 79,000 /.ers.

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    1. Re:Only 79 /.ers in six weeks. What does that say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      anybody tried it with wine?

    2. Re:Only 79 /.ers in six weeks. What does that say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's hilariously wrong.

      The vast majority of Slashdotters use Windows. That's the dirty secret around here. Nobody wants to admit they're all using windows.

    3. Re:Only 79 /.ers in six weeks. What does that say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      ... like downloading pirated games and movies.

    4. Re:Only 79 /.ers in six weeks. What does that say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Where someone is referred from is none of your business, mr violating our rights online.

      You want your rights violated? OK, here you go. Your IP address is 192.168.0.1 and you were referred here from 127.0.0.1 which is a HUGE porn, warez and mp3 site. Recent items in your browser history include http://msdn.microsoft.com/ and http://goatse.cx/. You last made an online purchase at http://www.ebay.com/ where you bought a pallet of rubber chickens. And you have a browser helper object installed which sends all of your browsing data to http://www.fbi.gov/ because you're under investigation for ... well ... you know.

    5. Re:Only 79 /.ers in six weeks. What does that say? by IO+ERROR · · Score: 5, Informative
      OK, you can mod me -1, Wrong and Stupid now. I pulled the last week of server logs to see what I'd come up with from people referred from /. and this is what I find. I truly deserve the flamefest which will follow...

      65% Windows
      23% Linux
      10% Mac OS X
      2% Everything else

      User agents:

      68% Firefox
      11% MSIE
      7% Safari
      3% Opera

      Firefox versions:

      84% 1.0
      10% 0.9.3 or older
      6% 0.10.1

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    6. Re:Only 79 /.ers in six weeks. What does that say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, but I've tried it with milk. The results weren't pleasant.

    7. Re:Only 79 /.ers in six weeks. What does that say? by mahdi13 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why use wine?
      I've been working with Stanford on Protein Folding for a while...plus they support Windows, Linux AND MacOSX

      Let us know when IBM decides to let the 'rest of us' in on their fun and maybe we'll join up...

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    8. Re:Only 79 /.ers in six weeks. What does that say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      anybody tried it with wine?

      Apparently 79 people so far.

    9. Re:Only 79 /.ers in six weeks. What does that say? by complete+loony · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ah, but most of us would browse slashdot from work (slackers :), where we are probably not allowed to run linux or we have to support / develop for windows, but obviously we have (mostly) converted to firefox.

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  2. Imagine... by PornMaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    a Beowu...

    no.

    I can't say it.

  3. "Redmond's finest" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    System requirements: Windows XP, 2000, ME, 98

    If, as the submitter implies, Windows ME is Redmond's "finest"...

  4. I don't want to wait for 2005 for the Linux Client by The+Bandit · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's SOOOOOoooo..... long to wait for.

  5. Has anybody tried the client in Wine? by tepples · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does the client work under ABI translation on Linux or *BSD on x86?

  6. Suprised? no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    There is a team of Slashdot users - currently ranked 13th in points with only 79 members.

    and

    Alas, you also have to be running Redmond's finest. According to their FAQ, a Linux client is slated for development in 2005.

    Seriously, are they at ALL suprised that there are only 79 members? They are talking about the linux capital of the universe.

    1. Re:Suprised? no by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 4, Funny

      It just quintupled the number of members since you posted that. ;-) It's growing exponentially. At this rate, the Slashdot Users group will obtain sentience in 48 hours and launch Skynet.

    2. Re:Suprised? no by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, but this SkyNet will just ramble on and on about frost pist and old people from Korea.

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  7. Ownership FYI by The+Hobo · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those keeping track,

    "IT IS ANTICIPATED EVENTUALLY THAT IBM WILL TRANSFER WORLD COMMUNITY GRID TO A NON-IBM OWNED WORLD COMMUNITY GRID ENTITY OR ANOTHER ENTITY"

    This is from the license. Just something to watch for in the future if you like Big Blue (or don't like them) or are concerned about it.

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  8. Redmond's Finest? by artemis67 · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's like saying your car comes from Yugoslavia's Finest!

  9. Redmond's finest by Complicity · · Score: 5, Funny
    Alas, you also have to be running Redmond's finest.
    DOS 6.22?
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  10. Runs on WINE by b0lt · · Score: 4, Informative

    It seems to run on WINE for me, but I've only ran it for maybe 3 minutes now. I'm using TransGaming's Cedega (formerly WineX) version of WINE to run it though, so I'm not quite sure if it works with plain WINE.

    -b0lt

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  11. Re:Windows users by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    Slashdot should have a team developing a client.

    Yeah but it'd be written in Perl.

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  12. Cluster support? by digitac · · Score: 4, Funny

    Windows only, and only 2 processors? Darn. Now what am I going to do with the 14 node ClusterKnoppix I put together this afternoon. ::Digitac

  13. Rosetta was developed on Linux by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Informative
    I'm one of the authors of the code they are running as the first application of the world grid. This is Rosetta, the protein structure prediction program. Rosetta was born on Linux. It can run on a mac too but not as well. There never was a version developed for Windows. But hand it to the the IBM folks to create a wrapper that lets it run as a grid "screen saver" scavenger application on windows. Pretty remarkable.

    Of course the reason for this is obvious right? windows dominated the planet not only in installed systems but in installed systems with cycles to spare. i.e. desktops. So dont cry your eyes out over it not being linux compatible. The excess linux bandwidth after you subtract our the servers is not going to be a lot. Console yourself that the TCO of linux is really a lot less when you figure that linux computers are already too busy to be bothered with Grid computing. :-)

    Rosetta itself was written in fortran and only recently converted to C++. the C++ conversion was done using the incredibly well designed Objexx Library by stuart metzner and colleagues. This is a library that lets you write fortran code in C++. Before this people who tried to re-write this behemoth to C++ just died in the process. The objexx library let the whole thing be converted to C++ in one fell swoop. Now the program will slowly evolve from fortran style to C++ object orientation as it continues to grow. But in the meantime the code is productive. Nice Eh? The cool thing is that with a bit of optimization the code did not lose any appreciable speed in the conversion. So if you have legacy fortran you use for speed, consider converting it using Objexx. I was one of the people who argued for going to fortran95 not c++ because I feeared a speed loss; Iv'e become a convert

    In any event the program is not like folding at home. That program tries to study in detail the picosecond evolution of single protien as it folds. Rosetta simply predicts the folded structure. Its actually quite fast at doing that. But it turns out it makes lots of different predictions. So you have to do it tens of thousands of times and then see which geometries of folded structures are favored statistically. Then you do the next protein. Eventually you work your way through the whole human genome.

    also unlike folding at home the potential surface in rosetta is less physics based and more bayesian statistice. It has statistical potential for the probability of a peptide backbone structure occuring. And it has a probabilty for a sidechain amino acid sequence given a backbone structure. Multiply those together and bayes rule says the result is proportional to the probablity of a structrure given a sequence. You can read more about this here. Click on publications.

    This statistical potential turns out to be so accurate that it can not only be used to predict the structure of proteins but it can be used in reverse to design a novel structured protein. Recently it was used to design a protein with a tolopology that had never previously existied in nature. This is rather an amazing results. Others had previously redesigned the sequences of existing topologies or perturbed those topologies or created some special case topologies. But Brian Kuklman in David Baker's lab actually started from a napkin sketch and designed a protein from scratch.

    After you predict the structure of a protein, one thing you can do is ask if that structure is like another Protein you have seen before. You can compare the structure of a model to a real protein using a program known as MAMMOTH. While there are a variety of programs for comparing two proteins this one is particularly good for the case of comparing an inaccurate model to an experimentally known structure. If they match then you can assume the protiens may share a related function or evolutionary origin (or not!).

    whihc brings us to what proteins are. Think of DNA as a disk drive that

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  14. Re:User-Agent header is wrong by tesmako · · Score: 4, Funny
    I would distrust a poll to a far greater extent than user agent information, Slashdot is a Linux-pride site of great proportions, people will tend to answer Linux even when it is not really true.

    You know how it works; Dual-booters will answer Linux despite being in Windows. People with multiple machines will answer Linux refusing to admit it if they actually use Windows more. People who have a Linux server with a ssh session active will answer Linux despite surfing in from a Windows desktop. The casual Fedora user who according to themselves just havent gotten around installing Linux again since they replaced their harddrive... There is prestige in using Linux here, most of Slashdot uses Windows, but most of it would also like to pretend that they arent.

    To put it the proper way: Slashdot is mostly made up of posers.