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Linus Makes Business Week's Best Managers List

andhar writes "Linus Torvalds has made Business Week Magazine's 2004 list of Best Managers, where he finds himself in the company of luminaries such as Hector Ruiz (AMD), John Henry (Boston Red Sox) and Steven Spielberg (Dreamworks SKG). The article lauds the influence of Linux on the server market and drops the names of such heavyweights as IBM, Dell, HP and Intel as Linux supporters. Linus is quoted, calling all you kernel coders a herd of cats."

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  1. "Linus did this... Linus did that..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny


    "Linus ate at McDonalds!" "Linus uses 2 ply toilet paper!" etc etc. Why not make a section devoted strictly to Linus (linus.slashdot.org) for the fawning and drooling and leave the Linux section to all things about Linux proper? That and some other minor changes would allow the readership to disable stories about what movie Linus watched over the weekend and other fluff if they wanted.

    Unless, of course, you're all too busy designing more ugly colour schemes.

    1. Re:"Linus did this... Linus did that..." by maskedbishounen · · Score: 3, Funny

      Okay, so spill it already.

      What movie did he watch over the weekend?

      *drools*

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      "An infinite number of monkeys typing into GNU emacs would never make a good program."
  2. It's a nice piece... by _PimpDaddy7_ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is a great article. I read it most of it last night. Goes through good managers, WHY they are good, how they turned around the company(Xerox as an example) and talks about bad managers and WHY they are bad, mistakes they've made, etc.

    This article should be read over and over again by the countries PHB. But I know they won't listen.

    Check out the pic of Linus, I think he's in a CORNfield or something LOL

    1. Re:It's a nice piece... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Serious question - what happens after Linus? When he is bumped off by hired MS goons or whatever, who out of Andrew, Alan, Andrea etc will take the lead? And will they have the gravitas to be able to successfully herd cats the same way?

    2. Re:It's a nice piece... by stupidfoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      You sure it's not a Korn field? (ok, lame Unix humor, I know)

      (sorry, I'm not talking about the band - although the Korn dev did get a Kornshell book signed by the band)

    3. Re:It's a nice piece... by peragrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      it's simple

      Good managers, work for the employees. When times are tough they take their fair share of the cuts. When times are good they share the wealth.

      Bad managers, blame everybody but themselves, and give themselves raises and/or bonuses for cutting staff. When times are good they give themselves huge raises, while maybe giving the rest a few scraps.

      The wealth doesn't have to be cash either. Though it usaully is in the case of bad managers.

      Guess which one Linus Torvalds, and which one is Darl Mcbride? All you have to look at is their quarterly reports. Darl's Salary is still a million dollars a year, yet he has to trim stay up.

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    4. Re:It's a nice piece... by iabervon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What's really remarkable about Linus's place in the list is that he doesn't actually have any employees. He doesn't control any finances. He doesn't even influence the people who control the pay of the people he manages. He's such a good manager that people accept his management for no reason other than that it is good. It's quite remarkable that he can actually do this, and also that a business magazine recognizes that this is going on.

      A bet Linus could have a great time going to classes in an MBA program and heckling the instructors.

  3. "Best Manager" is quite a glowing endorsement by scotay · · Score: 5, Funny

    Right up there with "Most Ethical Lawyer."

    1. Re:"Best Manager" is quite a glowing endorsement by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sarcasm aside ,to the people who matter (ie, managers and lawyers) both of those are quite glowing :p

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  4. Well deserved by suso · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think that managing a bunch of know-it-alls is a lot harder than managing people who are just there for a paycheck.

  5. Linus Torvalds by albn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Might as well made the list. He's adorned by many people and scored by everybody else.

    He's worked hard with a score of other people (who did not make the list) to make a nice operating system for anybody to use and modify. Before 2.4, it seemed many companies like Microsoft poo poohed the idea of how an open source operating system was going to work, and now that it has, they feel a little threatened. With the success of his kernel, I give him proper kudos.

    Oh, it is kind of funny. I do not see Darl McBride on the list. Just kind of interesting.

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    1. Re:Linus Torvalds by ctr2sprt · · Score: 4, Funny
      He's adorned by many people and scored by everybody else.
      I think your letter "n" traveled a few words to the left.

      Although the image of Linus walking around with kernel developers hanging from his clothes while assorted groupies carry scorecards is pretty funny.

      (You mean that Linus is adored by many people and scorned by everybody else.)

    2. Re:Linus Torvalds by St.+Arbirix · · Score: 4, Funny

      Bash.org #35955

      <EyesofPrisms> and ou are an uytter newb
      <KC48348751> dude
      <KC48348751> how did that y move over like 12 characters

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  6. Steve Jobs? by Sophrosyne · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can't believe Steve Jobs didn't win best manager of the year--
    ...they must be holding out for best manager of the century.

    1. Re:Steve Jobs? by Anonymous+Meoward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, Jobs made the "repeat performers" section of the article, along with Meg Whitman of eBay.

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  7. herding cats is easy... by WormholeFiend · · Score: 2, Funny

    Try cat juggling instead!

    Like SCO, Infinium Labs, are doing...

  8. Impressive. by clinko · · Score: 5, Funny

    A manager of a group that reads slashdot all day and still get things done.

    That is impressive.

    1. Re:Impressive. by TRS80NT · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, but they're all in India.

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  9. Manager by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I guess that's the best title for what he does, but his position doesn't really fit the "manager" role to a T..

    He's not anyones boss, he can't "fire" a kernel hacker, or direct them, he can just decide to accept or not accept patches.

    That lack of "direction" is somewhat of a problem, noone knows where linux is headed. It seems to be veering away from the desktop to the server room, and locked down incarnations like TiVo.

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    1. Re:Manager by peragrin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's the beauty of Open Source. No ONE person tells it where to go next. YOU just pick it up and start walking. TiVo, can take it one way, Montavista takes it another, IBM, and Red Hat heads toward the servers, While Xandros, and Suse are aiming for your desktops.

      Linux itself doesn't need a direction, The people decide what they want, and they take Linux there.

      Instead of Controling the people, YOU decide
      Where Do You Want to GO Today?

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  10. It gets even better by Gzip+Christ · · Score: 2, Informative

    Linus' picture actually made the cover of the magazine (along with 4 others)! Click on the "photo essays" graphic at the top of the article and then look at the magazine cover on the right hand side. The second person from the right looks like Linus to me. Awesome. I wonder who the other people are on the cover - I can't quite make them out.

  11. from my vantage point, by bogaboga · · Score: 3, Interesting
    ...I know that Linus has never actively enrolled in any management school, but he's a good manager. The first president of USA also never had any formal education as such but did wonderful things.

    Many people that have not gone to school have done good things...but if one sought a job sighting management skills, they are quickly turned down for lack of the so called degrees!

    This is despite the clear evidence that the so called educated managers have done more havoc than good. Just look at the companies that have folded up!

    I think that this issue of "Must have an MBA, LLB etc, etc.." was created purely for financial purposes by educational institutions. All people doing crap at their jobs here are very educauted. One wonders what their education helps anyway.

    Disclaimer: I run a fairly successful finacial business on the internet, but have zero training in this. I use my common sense.

    Note that Richard Branson (of the Virgin Group), does not have the educational papers that one would think he has. But he is very successful to the extent that he keeps British Airways managers on their toes.

    1. Re:from my vantage point, by whm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Many people that have not gone to school have done good things...but if one sought a job sighting management skills, they are quickly turned down for lack of the so called degrees! This is despite the clear evidence that the so called educated managers have done more havoc than good.

      Remarkable people can do remarkable things, often regardless of training or upbrining or what-not. But don't forget about the countless people without management training that have botched things as well. It is naive to imply that management training is going to make people less likely to do well at it.

    2. Re:from my vantage point, by Analogy+Man · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I read a very interesting book about Enron this last year. Actually those folks were brilliant and did very complex accounting to get away with effectively laundering billions. Trouble is if you perpetuate a lie by telling bigger and bigger lies it will eventually all come crashing down.

      I think the most important elements to being professionally successful...the right way are:

      Problem solving skills (surprising how rare these are really)

      An ethical compass (different from a religious conviction although in many it is related)

      Communication skills

      And above all, an ability to remember the GOAL

      The last is critical. So often the easy trap is to loose sight of the ultimate goal. In the engineering world the pitfalls are common.

      Focusing on the perfect structural analysis rather than answering a question required to make a design decision.

      Coming up with a wonderful fully parametric CAD model for a crappy product.

      Designing a software package to do everything under the sun and delivering it 2 years after the most critical 20% of it were needed for the companies new product line.

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      When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
  12. Out of context by l3pYr · · Score: 4, Informative
    From the abstract
    Linus is quoted, calling all you kernel coders a herd of cats.

    From the article
    Torvalds has quipped that his job is a lot like "herding cats."

    "Herding cats" is meant to be an oxymoron. Cats operate in small, tight-knit prides and not large herds; they are strong-willed and typically follow their own program. Linus was just trying to convey the difficulty of managing a large group of programmers who all have their own, unique reasons for doing what they do. As is demonstrated time and time again here at /., most nerds have trouble seeing the other side of an argument (read: we always think we're right). This brings about the cat metaphor.

    For those who don't RTFA, this might be taken out of context as an insult to kernel contributors. Just wanted to clear that up.

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    1. Re:Out of context by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 4, Funny

      For those who don't RTFA, this might be taken out of context as an insult to kernel contributors.

      Thanks for clearing that up... for a moment there I thought he was calling kernel contributors a bunch of pussies :P

  13. Fallen Managers by ghost509 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Fallen Managers include:

    Frank Dunn Nortel
    Graig Conway Peoplesoft
    Sanjay Kumar Computer Associates International

    I'm not sure why the CEO of SCO is not in that list, since SCO's earnings on most products are diminishing.

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  14. What has Jobs done? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    What has Jobs done besides smoke and mirrors? Apple's computers have not set any trends other than the look of the box (color and shape) since the Apple ][ days. His decisions have made sure that Macintoshes only appeal to a small minority of computer users.

    The iPod is flying high right now, but what will it be like in 1 year with larger capacity, easier-to-use music players for less than half the cost out there? Machines not hogtied to the obscure non-standard AAC format?

  15. Geeks are now for managment! by Garabito · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Linus: 2004 Business Week list of best managers.

    RMS: "involuntarily self-promoted into management"(!!!)

    Alan Cox: Left Linux kernel development to get a MBA

  16. Re:Manager (how do you define 'Manager'?) by thpr · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I guess that's the best title for what he does, but his position doesn't really fit the "manager" role to a T..

    He's not anyones boss, he can't "fire" a kernel hacker, or direct them, he can just decide to accept or not accept patches.

    But wait... when people are asked to name the managers we like best, we DON'T name administrators (which is the hire/fire abilities you describe and the financial ones implicit in that), we name our LEADERS. Linus made the list because of his leadership skills in accomplishing a task (herding cats, I guess) and the scope of control he must manage there; not for his budgetary or administrative skills.

  17. Re:My 2c by passthecrackpipe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The fact that linux sees more use outside of the states as opposed to within the states makes no difference to you, I assume? Why does an american have to be the linux maintainer? re-read your post and then think about how it sounds to non americans.

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  18. How is that not hiring or firing? by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He's not anyones boss, he can't "fire" a kernel hacker, or direct them, he can just decide to accept or not accept patches.

    And how is that power not explicitly hiring or firing? Basically, choosing to accept patches from someone for a while is the same as hiring - just as shutting someone out of the process is exactly like a firing.

    Indeed this is hiring/firing at its most pure, for just as the person derives no financial loss from a "firing", so too does Linus have nothing to GAIN by a firing beyond the quality of the product - no bottom line to trim, just quality to oversee. That makes firing (or not firing) far more meaningful than one that is intertwined on both sides with financial implications, and potential lawsuits.

    As for direction, the true indicator of being a good manager is that many people are willing to trust whatever vision he has in this regard.

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  19. Article gives all credit to executives by ElMiguel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As usual in business culture, all credit for the company's work is given to executives. See for example this blurb about AMD CEO Héctor Ruiz: "Nevertheless, the soft-spoken executive has put AMD in the black for the first time since 2000. He's giving larger competitor Intel Corp. (INTC ) fits with AMD's hot-selling Opteron server and Athlon 64 desktop chips, and he has set the agenda for next-generation PC designs." It almost seems that he's the only employee in the company doing any work. No mention of the engineers who, you know, actually designed the products AMD is selling so successfully.