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Sims 2 Hacks Spread Like Viruses

jowens writes "SecurityFocus reports that players sharing house designs through Electronic Arts' Sims 2 Exchange are finding their game behaving oddly: espresso machines mysteriously satisfy all the Sims needs, Sims are suddenly comfortable with open relationships, and the social worker no longer cares how they treat their children. It turns out hacks were spreading invisibly with Sims 2 lots, infecting thousands of downloadable homes, and catching Electronic Arts by surprise. The hackers, who never intended their hacks to be viruses, have even written their own AV scanner to find and control the outbreak."

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  1. Some of those hacks sound kind of cool! by ZipR · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe now I'll check the game out.

    1. Re:Some of those hacks sound kind of cool! by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Reasons for playing the sims are here (sims1) and here (sims2).

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    2. Re:Some of those hacks sound kind of cool! by GweiLeong · · Score: 3, Funny

      I played it for awhile, and frankly now I'm tempted to start it up again... Most popular at the moment seem to be the teen woohoo mod (no pregnancy) and teen woohoo mod (pregnancy possible). Someone made a mod where you can invite anyone (regardless of age/gender) to move in with you. They should have called it the Michael Jackson mod. ;)

    3. Re:Some of those hacks sound kind of cool! by VivianC · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...espresso machines mysteriously satisfy all the Sims needs, Sims are suddenly comfortable with open relationships, and the social worker no longer cares how they treat their children.

      Oh my God! They are all becoming Democrats! Can't somebody stop the madness?

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  2. I wonder. by Blapto · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where can I buy me one of these magic espresso machines?

    1. Re:I wonder. by grahamsz · · Score: 4, Funny

      I thing you need the 'special' columbian beans for that.

    2. Re:I wonder. by Mr.+No+Skills · · Score: 4, Funny

      All espresso machines have magic in them. :)

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    3. Re:I wonder. by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Insightful
      espresso machines mysteriously satisfy all the Sims needs

      Exactly what kind of needs are we talking about here?

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    4. Re:I wonder. by allism · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It sounds like your wife is a lucky lucky woman...

      either that or you really screwed up sometime earlier in the year and you were trying to make up for it...

  3. Sims 2 is the least of my problems... by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Funny
    Great! All we need now is a patch for the real-life analog of this. You know what I'm talking about here, that one where you go over to a friend's house for dinner and afterwords have this conversation:

    Wife: Wow, I love what they did with their place.
    Me: What?
    Wife: Didn't you notice they redid their kitchen?!?
    Me: I noticed the beer was in a different place...
    Wife: (ignoring me) I loved their new countertop, and the wine cooler, and...
    Me: This is bad, isn't it?
    Wife: We need to do something like that.
    Me: Yup, it's bad all right.
    Wife: I'm sure we can put something together for under $25k...
    Me: PWn3d.
    wife: Goddamn right.

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    1. Re:Sims 2 is the least of my problems... by andalay · · Score: 2, Funny

      Only 50% of the slashdotters with id 1000 are still married.

    2. Re:Sims 2 is the least of my problems... by abb3w · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Wife: I'm sure we can put something together for under $25k...
      Me: PWn3d.

      What, you thought the upkeep on females became cheaper after marriage?

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    3. Re:Sims 2 is the least of my problems... by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 5, Funny

      Only 50% of the slashdotters with id 1000 are still married.

      Surely there's only one slashdotter with id 1000...

      Is he half married?

    4. Re:Sims 2 is the least of my problems... by Skim123 · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is why you need to make sure, regardless of your age, your friends are poor college students. Then what is she going to say? "I really like what they did with those cinderblocks?", and, "That couch they found on the side of the road sure does add a nice touch to their place."

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    5. Re:Sims 2 is the least of my problems... by YU+Nicks+NE+Way · · Score: 2, Funny
      Is he half married?
      Isn't that awfully sexist of you? I mean, how do you know /.-er 1000 is a...oh...wait. This is slashdot we're talking about, isn't it.

      Never mind.
    6. Re:Sims 2 is the least of my problems... by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It all ends with your soul.

      Ah, there's the trouble with your relationships. It all STARTS with your soul. See, you're right about the cumulative upkeep; what you've missed is that infinity=infinity+1. So if you give your soul as often as you can (it grows back, you know), your significant other is indescribably happy and you don't have to shell out $$$ on the Hallmark Holidays.

      (Sorry, didn't mean to get all serious and sappy there - it's just that what you said clicked so nicely that I felt compelled to respond =)

    7. Re:Sims 2 is the least of my problems... by SoSueMe · · Score: 2, Funny

      The ring goes on the finger, not through the nose.
      The marriage certificate is not a deed to the soul.
      I ask how you are and you say "fine", I know you're lying but I'm going to run with that.

      I told my wife all these things before we got married. She is still cool with that.
      Mind you, her "pet name" for me is still "asshole".
      80% of the time, I'm pretty sure she is joking.

    8. Re:Sims 2 is the least of my problems... by ForestGrump · · Score: 2, Funny

      married and divorced.

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    9. Re:Sims 2 is the least of my problems... by GWTPict · · Score: 2
      My wife only wears silver jewellery as she thinks gold is a 'thieves metal', wears mostly black, think a hippy goth cross style, doesn't like flowers as she gets hay fever, there's only one perfume she does like and it's not expensive and she insists on paying her half of everything.

      I LOVE that woman.

    10. Re:Sims 2 is the least of my problems... by FurryFeet · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe he's Schroedinger's wife?

    11. Re:Sims 2 is the least of my problems... by jrockway · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He probably stuck a less-than sign in there and didn't preview. Try < next time :)

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  4. Hacks? by trp642 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd call them upgrades! If only reality were just as hackable...

  5. It may fulfill all the sims needs... by Heftklammerdosierer! · · Score: 3, Funny

    But can the coffee maker shoot Bobs?

  6. Relax. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    Don't worry, a fix is coming. EA has a few employees working overtime this weekend.

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    1. Re:Relax. by Ubergrendle · · Score: 2, Funny

      Great, stressed out, virtually canatonic coders patching an online game. You'll see people dining out of Stanley Cups, Gordon Freeman lounging on the couch too lazy to change the channel, and Paul Tagliabue running around taping up Sim's breasts in case of wardrobe malfunctions.

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  7. but.. by sirgallihad · · Score: 3, Interesting

    if they where never designed as virii, then how come they are behaving like them?

    1. Re:but.. by SiliconJesus · · Score: 4, Informative

      The actual virus like behaviour is due to the way EA's site works.

      Basically - you create the house using your copy of the game, with whatever tiles you have installed and loaded. Once you're happy with the results, you upload them to the server inside the game. The game then compares the objects to those in the standard game, as well as those in the game database (every object is given a unique ID and checksum from what I've seen so far), and variants are uploaded as well as part of the upload. The more unique objects your house has, the bigger it is.

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    2. Re:but.. by LnxAddct · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As with most things in life, its not the science that is bad, its the human factor.
      Regards,
      Steve

    3. Re:but.. by iabervon · · Score: 5, Informative

      Essentially, everything behaves like viruses in the game, but people didn't realize this in advance. It makes sense that when you import a house, the things in it come along, but people didn't realize that a number of game mechanics were treated as things in houses. People also didn't realize that, if you modified "the espresso machine", the change would apply not just to one item, but to all items like that one, so importing the house with the weird espresso machine imports and applies the weirdness to your espresso machines, which you then pass on when you export your house.

    4. Re:but.. by Rei · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'd be interested in seing a time bomb. An object which does nothing for a month, and then sets everything it can on fire. Just like with a real virus, if you want it to spread far and wide, you need an incubation period.

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    5. Re:but.. by pclminion · · Score: 2, Interesting
      To get technical about it, it's not really an incubation period because during incubation an organism isn't doing anything except growing and maturing. It isn't reproducing.

      This is more like the "lag period" after pitching yeast to make beer. There is a period of time (anywhere from 6 to 48 hours) where the yeast is not yet fermenting anything, but working as hard as possible to reproduce and grow its numbers. Then, once the resources start to get crowded, it switches into a new life mode and begins its "real" life function of fermenting sugar.

      A computer virus might work in the same way. It would "know" when to start activating when its "resources" start to diminish, i.e. when it starts getting difficult to find new uninfected hosts to spread to.

  8. Someone set up us the Sims by PornMaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    All your Sims are belong to us!

  9. So, a game which simulates live by Trigun · · Score: 4, Funny

    catches a virus? Oh the irony.

    A virus gets a life, and life gets a virus.

    1. Re:So, a game which simulates live by Rei · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now, we just need to make it so sims can get jobs as spammers, and we're all set... ;)

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  10. A brave new world. by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 4, Funny
    Life imitates art imitating life.

    My head hurts.

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  11. It's The Sims! by devphaeton · · Score: 5, Funny

    How do we know the Sims themselves haven't created these hacks? I mean, all of us here fantasize about being able to program the physics around us for a happier existence, right? right?

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    1. Re:It's The Sims! by Thuktun · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sounds like a cool hack. Give the sims the ability to mess with the internals of objects around them, then see what happens over time.

  12. so what? by mrn121 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And how is this not EXACTLY like real life?

    1. Re:so what? by utlemming · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, can you imagine the problems that would happen with self-aware Sims? You would have your own cult of Sims worshipping you. Everytime you would open the Sims, they would praise you and beg for your benevolence or beg that your menevolence would be adverted. That could be a fun, yet cruel game. It could be called Sim God. If only AI tech was that advanced. I would buy a game where I could tinker with the lives of a self-aware AI....muhahaha

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    2. Re:so what? by Ironsides · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's called "Black and White"

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    3. Re:so what? by DarthWiggle · · Score: 3, Informative

      Similarly, Populous, a much better game. (old school)

    4. Re:so what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually it's called "have a child"

    5. Re:so what? by StikyPad · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How do you know we're not Sims, who've finally created our own Sims? Oh God, when will the cycle ever end?

      That does explain the popularity of the Sims though. Our Player makes people play it until the urge to poop is overwhelming.

  13. Old news for those in the 'scene' by Richard+Frost · · Score: 5, Interesting

    User based sites that create mods, such as http://www.modthesims2.com, have been warning about this for months now.

  14. magic toaster by Fr05t · · Score: 2, Funny

    I want the magic toaster what eats lady sim shirts and skirts!

  15. New Sims add-on? by weeboo0104 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sims are suddenly comfortable with open relationships, and the social worker no longer cares how they treat their children.

    Does this mean that EA will be releasing a Jerry Springer add-on for the Sims?

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  16. yes but, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Another hack allows teenagers in the Sims 2 to get pregnant.

    do.... do we see em do it?!?

    1. Re:yes but, by sTalking_Goat · · Score: 3, Funny
      Another hack allows teenagers in the Sims 2 to get pregnant.

      Dammit I told them that that Abstinence hack was a waste of time...

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  17. wow by Jailbrekr · · Score: 5, Funny

    virtual world plagued by virtual virus. Should we be virtually worried? Will the virtual police come and arrest the virtual hackers as they spread their virtual malware? Will it become a virtual catastrophe, or a comedy of virtual proportions?

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  18. read the fracking article by hexfortyfive · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The game lets you share your acomplishments on EA's Sims 2 website. When you "check out" someone's house, the hacked objects get imported into your copy of the game. If you then export one of your houses, the hacked objects propigate.

  19. +4 Funny? by Run4yourlives · · Score: 2, Funny

    Good grief some of you need to get out more.

    1. Re:+4 Funny? by rackhamh · · Score: 4, Funny

      some of you need to get out more.

      Dude... it's an article about the Sims...

    2. Re:+4 Funny? by m50d · · Score: 4, Funny

      Says the guy posting on slashdot complaining about the moderation

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  20. Sims 2 is a virus by t_allardyce · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember getting hooked on Sims 1 untill I realised it was a totally retarded game, because the clock runs so fast it can take you several hours to just make coffee and walk to the front door in the morning.

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    1. Re:Sims 2 is a virus by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 4, Funny

      it can take you several hours to just make coffee and walk to the front door in the morning.

      Hey, I didn't realise it was *that* realistic!

    2. Re:Sims 2 is a virus by necro2607 · · Score: 3, Funny

      No kidding, I started getting pissed off that it took 2-5 hours to microwave a TV dinner...

  21. Sigh by Dante+Shamest · · Score: 2, Funny
    The "No Jealousy" patch lets them keep multiple lovers without getting slapped all the time.

    Guys really want something like this in real life.

    Another hack allows teenagers in the Sims 2 to get pregnant.

    Guys really want...no wait. Real life already has this.

  22. Sleep Depravation = Bugs by Safety+Cap · · Score: 4, Insightful
    From the article:
    Someone at Electronic Arts was really shortsighted not to have thought of hacked objects spreading this way.
    Let's see, if you work your developers to death on the Bataan Coding Deathmarch 18/7 (with 2 hours off on Sunday for "good behaviour"), then how on earth are they supposed to write anything remotely resembling quality code, let alone manage risk?

    Answer: you don't; instead you adopt the Slashdot style of code testing: Ship it!
    503? Hacks spread like viruses? Oh, par for the course.

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    1. Re:Sleep Depravation = Bugs by ironygranny · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm assuming your clients are running Windows: try creating a "Sims" group, adding the limited user accounts to it, and giving it at least "Write" access on the Sims directory under "Program Files" AND go into the registry under HKLM\Computer, find the Sims-related keys and grant the "Sims" group Full Control over them. That usually works for me with games (which tend to be less good about keeping user data in places where user data should be).

      If you're feeling especially masochistic, you can download a utility like Sysinternal's "Filemon" and watch what files/directories the Sims fails writing to so that you can then set the appropriate permissions.

  23. Sounds eerily familiar. by kapella · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If this were a virus
    You would be dead now
    Fortunately it's not
    The Metaverse is a dangerous place;
    How's your security?
    Call Hiro Protagonist Security Associates
    For a free initial consultation.

    1. Re:Sounds eerily familiar. by kapella · · Score: 2, Informative

      By Stephenson. ISBN 0-553-38095-8

  24. Not really a virus by RandomBitFlipper · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...sounds more like a bunch of more-or-less benignly corrupted files which have been unwittingly user-propagated, rather than self-propagating virii. I guess the Sims cops need to be modded to keep the SimVille neighbourhood from going to the dogs, or else they'll be as useless as an Indian policeman enforcing cyber-law.

  25. What's strange about magic espresso? by gerardlt · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...some characters are finding all their needs fulfilled by a single shot of magic espresso.
    Isn't this normal?
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  26. My idea by Mr.+Cancelled · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I always thought it would be way fun to be able to insert a downloadable sim, who would act as somewhat of a virus, and murder other sims.

    My GF's hooked on the Sims (and now Sim2), and even she thought it'd be kinda neat to download an innocent looking Sim, only to have them turn out to be a serial killer who begins killing off your other Sims at some point in time. Sort of a simulated "whodunnit" murder mystery.

  27. Re:57 Years Old? by necro2607 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Um, what I'm more curious about is why the hell they arbitrarily chose this "57-year-old Sims 2 player from Pflugerville, Texas".

    I mean, it doesn't get much more obscure than that. Does this woman happen to be a well-known member of a Sims 2 community site or something? Or did they just do a google search for "arbitrary Sims 2 player" and then interview one of the people randomly selected from the list of results?

  28. Re:57 Years Old? by glenebob · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think they saw where she was from and gave it a +5 funny. After that, it was an easy choice.

  29. Married/2 by Pseudonymus+Bosch · · Score: 2, Funny

    He is not. But his wife is.

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  30. EA corporate culture in danger by Muhammar · · Score: 2, Funny

    EA management is run by Sims too.

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  31. Pflugerville is a suburb of AustinRe:57 Years Old? by gorim · · Score: 2, Informative

    I believe EA has alot of developers in Austin TX ? Pflugerville is one of the yuppie suburbs.

  32. my favourite line from the article: by mu22le · · Score: 3, Funny

    my favourite line from the article:

    "Another hack allows teenagers in the Sims 2 to get pregnant. As the game is sold, they can't even have sex."

    Oh my g0d yhis is SO...

    I dunno, normal?