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Archos PMA400 Linux Based Media Portable

freitasm writes "The new Archos PMA400 is a Linux based portable- entertainment/PDA/DVR/Internet device. It comes with wireless and ethernet LAN connections, plays Mophun and Qtopia and supports Microsoft DRM protected files (WMV, WMA). The company will release a SDK on its dedicated website sometime before the end of January 2005. The device will retail for around US$800."

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  1. I recommend getting an Archos... by garcia · · Score: 3, Informative

    The display is a 3.5" TFT transflective touch screen (QVGA) 320x240 pixels, 262,000 colors and TV output. Archos says it can play up to 4 hours for video playback or 9.5 hours for music. A removable battery option is available. The unit is approximately 125 x 78 x 20 mm (4.9" x 3.1" x 0.8") and weighs 280 g (9.9 oz).

    I have an 80GB Archos AV400 that I received for a Christmas present this year. A couple of things annoy me about the unit but that would happen with anything... The UI takes about 15 minutes to get used to as I really haven't encountered anything like it. Even after having it for three weeks I still find myself fumbling with the keys. The player display is very simple and tells me what I need to know but I would really prefer options to repeat one track/all tracks/etc right on the player screen itself rather than having to go into the setup each time to change these options.

    The AV400 doesn't seem to have a removable battery which is worrisome as in my experience batteries start losing their charge after a year and if I am not able to replace it that would suck, bad. As far as length of play... The AV400 seems to easily get 15+ hours to a charge for music. I haven't been able to give it thorough testing on video playback and battery life yet though.

    I love the fact that you can record *and* playback to TV. I am currently waiting for Tivo2Go's Tivo update to come down to my unit but until then I use the "Record to VCR" option on my Tivo to play the episodes and I use the Archos to record them. It's nice because I can watch the Tivo'd episodes anywhere in the house or bring them along with me.

    It does play WMV DRM media and that's what it uses when you record a DVD to it. It's a bit annoying that you can't record a DVD and play it back elsewhere (it physically disabled the TV-out when you try) but other than ripping to AVI you really have little choice.

    I haven't tried to use it to connect to my satellite receiver but knowing the issues I had trying to use the IR channel changer from Tivo I could only imagine the Archos wouldn't interface well either.

    The LCD screen is nice on mine but it gets finger smudges all the time. I'd really like to see how well this Archos unit handles being a touchscreen. It might get ugly. I have one bad pixel (which is common) and I only notice it when playing movies but for the screen size it's pretty annoying. Maybe Toshiba can back these units too? :)

    The AV400 comes with a CF expansion slot, currently used for picture retrieval, but I really wish they would allow for some wireless CF card integration. It would be VERY cool to be able to network via wifi instead of USB and surf the web and check email as the newer unit allows :(

    All in all, I'm impressed with my Archos and I would recommend it to anyone that's looking into a portable media player that does more than just play music and display photos.

    1. Re:I recommend getting an Archos... by davidmat · · Score: 2, Informative

      av420 has a removable battery, av480 doesn't just nitpicking...

  2. Well if it's anything... by Bin_jammin · · Score: 3, Informative

    Like my old Jukebox Multimedia 20, it will be overly large, have horrible horrible build quality, require ripping movies in bizzare formats with hard to find utilities, and have just enough battery life to turn on before turning off again. Not to mention buggy firmware, slow product support, incompetent technical support (when the actually respond) and a slew of vaporware... have fun with your toys kids.

  3. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Interesting

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  4. Wowee! Windows Media files! by TooMuchEspressoGuy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    supports Microsoft DRM protected files (WMV, WMA)

    It kind of figures that one of the major product features of a Linux-based handheld is that it supports a media standard championed by MS, doesn't it? I mean why not support open-source standards like OGG?

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    1. Re:Wowee! Windows Media files! by PornMaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you want them supported for political reasons?

      Archos is making its decisions for commercial reasons.

  5. Catch up with the times Archos... by }InFuZeD{ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This thing looks really cool... I mean awesome, except for two things.

    First, it's $800. Second, it has a 320x240 screen. Who wants a screen that small anymore? You get better resolution on any $100 Palm now...

  6. Look at the Price!! by allden · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can get powerful laptops at this price.

  7. Re:more and more ... by Nakago4 · · Score: 2

    except that they probably paid a Microsoft tax to include Windows Media Player DRM support.

  8. $800? by Daniel+Ellard · · Score: 3, Insightful
    That seems a bit pricey. That kind of money will get you a decent laptop...

    Is there a market for a device that's more capable than a $100-200 PDA and less capable than a $1000 laptop? Of course I want one, but does anyone need one of these?

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  9. Disclaimer: Linux not compatible with Linux by Random+BedHead+Ed · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The fine print on the product page is interesting:

    PC: Pentium® III 800 MHz or higher, Windows 98 SE (with driver downloaded from ARCHOS web-site), ME, 2000 or XP. 64 MB RAM (128 MB recommended) with USB port and CD-ROM drive Mac: 9.2 or X (10.2.4) USB Manager version 1.2 or higher with USB port and CD-ROM drive

    So no sneaky using your new Linux gadget with Linux. Of course I'd imagine you could make it connect to the storage just fine, especially if it does USB Mass Storage.

  10. Re:No Thanks by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2, Interesting
    else it'll sulk and stop playing them...

    So? You weren't going to play wma files anyway, were you?

  11. Editorial Content i.e. advertising by Eberlin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's a difference between advertising and endorsing. When there's an MS banner up top, that's advertising. When Taco posts what is clearly a product "review" it seems more of an endorsement. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it'd be nice if folks are a little more forthcoming with it.

    As a tech, when I talk about certain products, it kind of carries some weight...like I prefer that product over its competitors.

    On a somewhat related topic, I used to post web pages for a place that offered paying advertisers "editorial" content on their web site. Disguised as reviews, they were no more than actual press releases from the advertisers. I always thought it was a bit misleading.

    Now if they say something like "I got a PDA out of this deal -- Taco" I'd understand and be more accepting. :)

  12. Ahhh... by Squatchman · · Score: 3, Funny

    but will it run Windows Mobile ?

  13. it may run on linux but it doesn't work with linux by bdbolton · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "System requirements: PC: Pentium® III 800 MHz or higher, Windows 98 SE (with driver downloaded from ARCHOS web-site), ME, 2000 or XP. 64 MB RAM (128 MB recommended) with USB port and CD-ROM drive Mac: 9.2 or X (10.2.4) USB Manager version 1.2 or higher with USB port and CD-ROM drive "

    ...runs linux but requires windows/mac. :(

  14. They killed off the hi-res screen by hirschma · · Score: 2, Informative
    Here is what it was SUPPOSED to be: Prototype with hi-res screen

    Look at the proto's screen res - 704x480. Could be used as a notebook replacement easily enough.

    This version is not worth $800.

    JH

  15. Re:Full text, no ad revenue for me! by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What the hell does it matter?
    <rant>
    I don't give a damn who posts what, or who makes money from something.
    If something interests me, I'll have a look.
    Its not like I have to get my credit card and sign my life away.

    Adverts are all around you, do you spend time cutting evil adverts out of newspapers before you read them?
    Do you close your eyes whilst driving past billboards?

    Your just an arrogant tosser who can't see the wood for the trees. Slashdot is built JUST like Roland or anyone elses "advert supported blog", except slashdot editors dont even find the articles, they leave it upto the readers.

    At least people like Roland seem to have their finger on the pulse, and find decent interesting articles for the rest of us to discuss.
    </rant>

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  16. Who wants to shell out $800 for a PDA by elecngnr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am more than happy with my $90 Palm. It syncs with my address book and iCal on my Mac....and fits in my pocket. And, if something bad happens to it during my travels, I am out $90...not $800. I just think these PDA's are getting crazy.

    I am also confused why it is a linux PDA, yet you have to have windoze or a mac to sync with the thing. That sucks. If I am a linux guy I want a linux PDA that will work with my computer...

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  17. I Like My Archos MMJ 20 by nightwing2000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    This looks pretty good. I bought the Multimedia Jukebox 20 when it came out, and I still love it - crappy quality, dying batteries, and all - because it beats lugging a laptop around on vacation to download my digital camera pictures. I've found it's simpler to just snap away and off-load later. So far, this is still cheaper that buying several gig of cards to last me over a vacation... and when the next generation of 10Mpixel cameras come out, we're going to need that much more space!

    I looked at an iPod a few months ago and it still doesn't measure up. With the Archos I can look at the pictures ("Yes, they did copy" I distrust technology since the days of floppies) and it works as just a plain old external hard drive without Apple-retentive silly library management crap for my MP3's. Video? Who uses that anyway - although I did see someone using it once. By the time you convert your MP2, you might as well have just sat down and watched it.

    This new device might be OK teamed with a PC-based DVR function; the current concept is nice, but what good's a "VCR" that you also have to disconnect and take with you? What's going to stay home and record shows while you're on the road?

    They've finally conceded that replaceable batteries are needed. Good!

    The "master USB" function is a good idea. It saves them having to build proprietary camera card readers, if any off-the-shelf USB card reader will do the trick.

  18. you don't need high res on a 3-4" screen by pocopoco · · Score: 2

    I have a Zaurus with a 640x480 screen. It took me a long time to dig up a version of mplayer with hardware accel for whatever chip is in there so it could handle videos of that res, but after I did it turned out to be pointless.

    The screens on these things are so small that QVGA is more than ample. I've been watching anime fansubs lately, which ever since the process went digital have been using these tiny font size subtitles (more suited to monitors than TVs), but even they read fine at 320x240 at the size we're talking about.

  19. US$799.95 in the U.S. and EUR 799.9 by oliverthered · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm getting one of ebay.com and risking the tax man for the sake of $255.

    At todays rate

    $799.95 = EUR606.61
    EUR 799.99 = $1054

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  20. Left handers by statichead · · Score: 2

    Just once I would like to see one of these companies design with ergonomics in mind. Left handers must be loving these things because they can use the pen in their left hand and push the buttons and hold the unit with the right hand. My tablet pc is the exact same way. Sure I can rotate the screen but the buttons are all backwards. XP tablet edition did not like fliping back and forth so I gave up and installed linux on it. Tablet pc as a form factor would get a lot further if manufactures would make them easy to hold and operate. A bios selection that allowed the device to be one way or another would be a plus.

    Why don't we design stuff with attention to detail anymore.

  21. Qtopia by arodland · · Score: 3, Informative

    It doesn't play Qtopia; it runs Qtopia. Qtopia isn't a media format but rather a smallish environment, meant for handhelds, based on Qt/Embedded.