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Wired's 2004 Vaporware Awards

l3pYr writes "Based on user submissions, Wired Magazine has posted its 2004 Vaporware Awards. Duke Nukem Forever has garnered the 'Lifetime Achievement Award,' so it doesn't - officially - make the list. Some of the lucky winners this year are: Alienware, Valve, Microsoft, Apple and TiVo."

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  1. My favorite piece of vaporware is GNU/HURD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously. Does anybody actually use the beta/alpha version of it for anything? RMS has been promising it for such a long time.. especially after Linux took the GNU team by surprise.

    1. Re:My favorite piece of vaporware is GNU/HURD by The_Dougster · · Score: 4, Informative

      I have it installed on my system also, although I don't recall booting it anytime recently. It does boot though. It has X, you can compile programs, I think it runs Emacs, it definately runs vi, there might even be a couple games ported to it now. It's a turtle, but definately not vaporware.

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    2. Re:My favorite piece of vaporware is GNU/HURD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I have a leaked copy of the source code to Duke Nuke 'em Forever. It doesn't do anything near to what it was supposed to do. It is in no way vapor! Anyhow, I'll share it here for all to see:

      /* forever.c- FIXME: This file is not completed yet */
      #include <stdio.h>

      int main ()
      {
      /* Comment out below line before release -EDW */
      printf ("Duke Nuke 'em Forever v0.001 Alpha Release\n");

      /* Uncomment out below line when game is written */
      /* main_loop (); */

      return 0;
      }

    3. Re:My favorite piece of vaporware is GNU/HURD by uebermts · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well, HURD is about to reach V1.0 ... in the meantime, Linus wrote some other OS:

      ===
      From: torva...@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
      Date: 5 Oct 91 05:41:06 GMT
      Subject: Free minix-like kernel sources for 386-AT

      [...]
      I can (well, almost) hear you asking yourselves "why?". Hurd will be
      out in a year (or two, or next month, who knows), and I've already got
      minix.
      [...]
      ===

      http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.os.mini x/ msg/2194d253268b0a1b

    4. Re:My favorite piece of vaporware is GNU/HURD by andreyw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      An operating system kernel is now "a simple project?" Especially one that breaches new territory in kernel design?

      If HURD gets the vaporware award, then you get the dumbass award.

    5. Re:My favorite piece of vaporware is GNU/HURD by andreyw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And as an afterthought... Have you even ever *tried* writing a kernel?

    6. Re:My favorite piece of vaporware is GNU/HURD by andreyw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      First of all its "Torvalds," and secondly, it wasn't easy in the sense of 'any dumbass can write one.' Plus, a more attractive development model (read: less philosophising about theory... HURD really is more like a research project) and a more practical 'lets get this weird device to work' approach led to the effective relegation of the HURD to the boondocks. It [Linux] really is a simpler and straight-forwarder design too.

      My first incarnation of EKP was a simple monolithic kernel and if I stuck with it I would be already porting GNU CC to it. Alas, my curiosity led me astray down the path of micro- and exo-kernels, so instead I am filling my garbage can with flawed designs.

  2. Where? by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    Where's my Atari 1450 XLD? Still waiting....

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    1. Re:Where? by crow · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Oh, boy, did I ever want one of those.

      If you look very closely at some of the photos in Creative Computing or Compute! you'll see that the alleged 1450XLD had a nameplate on it calling it a 1250XLD. My guess is that there was another earlier project that was canceled, and since they didn't have any of the new ones ready, they used photos of the old one.

      Apparently there were a few 1400XLs that got out, but there's as rare as an 815.

  3. Sarge by gihan_ripper · · Score: 4, Funny

    Though they keep us hanging, Debian Sarge cannot be considered vapourware as Debian don't give release dates till they're good and ready.

    (But I still want it now!)

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    1. Re:Sarge by baryon351 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Technically as another poster replied, it is out now.

      I do consider it 'released' as it was released the day it was created. It's been there for download & use for years.

      While it's labelled "testing", and woody is the current "stable" in reality I find very little difference between the two. Both have been rock solid for me, although Sarge has had issues of the kind where a config file changes and there's unexpected behaviour, or a package will be updated from version 1.0 to 1.2 and change its behaviour simply by the way it works. That's life on ANY constantly updated operating system.

      For most purposes I'd recommend Sarge as the normal, everyday Debian for people to use. It's kept updated, it works, it's solid, and the nice apt tools work fine. Stable is for people who need absolute consistency, those aiming for the five nines.

      Debian needs better marketing in release names :). Don't let the moniker of "Stable" given to Woody make you think Sarge is inherently "Unstable" in the traditional sense. That's the job of Sid.

  4. You troll you. by AtariAmarok · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seriously, the Slashdot visual design ranks among the best, except for that category that immitates the "Aqua" look of white letters on a very pale background (cannot be read). If you want very bad, go to aintitcoolnews.com To read that site, you need to copy and paste text into a text editor.

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  5. Apple and IBM should share credit by Logic+Bomb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think it's fair for Apple to be on the list with the 3 Ghz claim, though they should have shared the honor with IBM. After all, Apple was just going off whatever they were told by IBM's R&D folks.

    1. Re:Apple and IBM should share credit by akac · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's exactly what they did. IBM built a brand new fab specifically to build very fast 970s and other 13 nm and smaller chips.

      That was the whole point.

    2. Re:Apple and IBM should share credit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      "fab"

      Fabrication plant. where chips are made.

  6. What is the min delay for vaporware? by shawn(at)fsu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    #10 lists the product from Alienware that was supposed to be delivered in Q4 2004 (If I read it right). My question is this: How long must something be delayed to be considered vaporware? Obviously products like Duke Nukem and the Phantom qualify but what is the minimum amount of time needed?

    Even if I was mistaken on #10 I still would like to hear what you all think.

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    1. Re:What is the min delay for vaporware? by ShamusYoung · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As I've always understood it, "Vaporware" refers to products that do not exist, and are thus all "vapor" and hype. Once you show a demo or have a working model that does what you claimed it would do from the outset, it ought not be called Vaporware, even if it has been delayed.

      DNF is a great example, since after a decade we havn't even seen a working demo, a gameplay video, or even any (recent) screenshots. I think labeling products as "vaporware" when they are just late is a bit unfair. Many products miss ship dates and experience delays, but it takes a special kind of bastard to start a marketing campaign before they've even written a line of code or built a prototype.

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    2. Re:What is the min delay for vaporware? by phillymjs · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As I've always understood it, "Vaporware" refers to products that do not exist, and are thus all "vapor" and hype. Once you show a demo or have a working model that does what you claimed it would do from the outset, it ought not be called Vaporware, even if it has been delayed.

      No. Anybody can fake up working model and/or show a rigged demo. Even an officially-released product is technically vaporware until it ends up in the hands of at least one customer.

      ~Philly

    3. Re:What is the min delay for vaporware? by AviLazar · · Score: 4, Funny

      but what if nobody wants to buy it? Is it still vapor ware or is it considered shitty ware?

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    4. Re:What is the min delay for vaporware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Vaporware and shitty ware combine to... fart ware!

    5. Re:What is the min delay for vaporware? by iabervon · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's not as bad as TiVoToGo being #4, despite having already been released only a few days outside the specified window. And the X800 got #5 despite being scheduled to be in transit at press time and having previously available to reviewers.

  7. Yes, I am Karma whoring. by Ssbe · · Score: 5, Informative

    10. Alienware's Video Array
    9. Intel's Pentium 4 at 4 GHz
    8. Apple Computer's G5 Chips at 3 GHz
    7. Team Fortress 2: Brotherhood of Arms
    6. Gran Turismo 4
    5. ATI's Radeon X800 series of video cards
    4. TiVoToGo
    3. Microsoft's Longhorn
    2. CherryOS
    1. Phantom Game Console

  8. Bah! by OECD · · Score: 4, Funny

    They're not really handing out any awards! They're just making it up!

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    1. Re:Bah! by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny
      They're not really handing out any awards! They're just making it up!


      No. Honestly. A friend works work them and he assures me they'll be handing out the awards real soon now. ;-)

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  9. This years winners are.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And this years price for the "Worst Article and Poor journalism" -award goes to... Wired!

    Also special commendation on "How to build a website almost rivaling Geocities in how horrible it looks like" -award goes to Wired!

  10. Kind of sad: Alienware?!? by revery · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Apparently your product is now vaporware if it slips a quarter. I think by that definition every computer game I've ever played has at some point been vaporware...

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    1. Re:Kind of sad: Alienware?!? by EvilOpie · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, I agree. Maybe they are hurting for things to call vaporware though. I mean they say that TiVoToGo was released on January 3rd, so they called it vaporware for 2004. 3 days late...

      I always thought that vaporware implied that the product either didn't exist, or wasn't even close to shipping. So taking a product from non-existent to shipping in 3 days is quite a feat.

      Then again (and it surprised me to see a definition for this already) Merriam-Webster defines vaporware as a new computer-related product that has been widely advertised but is not yet available . But even by that definition, TiVoToGo would not be vaporware since it has been shipped before the article was written. Ah well... now I'm just getting to the point of splitting hairs I guess.

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    2. Re:Kind of sad: Alienware?!? by Bastian · · Score: 2, Informative

      Apparently. Especially since two of the items on their list are on the market right now - GT4 just came out in Japan, and TivoToGo has been out since the beginning of this week.

  11. Company Lifetime Achievement Award by gmuslera · · Score: 2, Interesting
    This year they should give that award to Microsoft. 3DRealms are there just because Duke Nukem Forever, a single vaporware product, but Microsoft still making big merits since more than a decade ago (the WinFS in particular have a history that goes back to '94 and maybe earlier) and with most of the "big" announced features.

    Also could be fit in the "vaporware" realm some of their claims, i.e. the "safe" feature is strongly attached to any of their products, be windows 95, internet explorer from the firsts versions, office, servers, etc).

    1. Re:Company Lifetime Achievement Award by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually using this logic Desktop Linux wins hands down. Every year its arrival is trumpeted yet we still wait.

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    2. Re:Company Lifetime Achievement Award by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually using this logic Desktop Linux wins hands down. Every year its arrival is trumpeted yet we still wait.

      There's a difference, though. The Year Of Linux On The Desktop(tm) is something that users and pundits keep predicting, not something any one company, or even any group of companies, is promising. In fact, there are a number of distros which meet the requirements for a usable desktop OS, and this has been the case for a couple of years now; if these fail to live up to people's inflated expectations for commercial success, that's the fault of the people with the expectations, not the fault of the people delivering the (very solid) products. This is utterly different from Microsoft's continual promises of secure, stable, feature-rich software that always seems to be Right Around The Corner.

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    3. Re:Company Lifetime Achievement Award by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You'd have to give the award to the users who don't bother to switch, not the OS. I've been using Linux as a desktop for years.

  12. Re:My favorite quote: by MPHellwig · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mine was near there: Steven "Harley" Davidson said, "If Microsoft keeps on pushing back the dates for Longhorn and removing features from it, they might as well just promise to bundle Duke Nukem Forever with the OS."

  13. Based on user submissions, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    WAAAA! Your promised me I could buy $piece_of_crap by Q4 2004. Its already January 7th of 2005! Oh, the humanity!
    IWANIT!!IWANIT!!IWANIT!!IWANIT!!IWANIT! !IWANIT!!IW ANIT!!IWANIT!!IWANIT!!IWANIT!!IWANIT!!IWANIT!! /spoiled brat mode

    who cares...

  14. Award for Default Secure Windows? by NoSuchGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where is the award for a default secure windows?

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  15. Longhorn by mislinux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I went to the movie theater to watch the 2nd Matrix movie the day it came out (so that tells you about the time it was) and there was a guy running Longhorn on his laptop. Me and an ECE friend of mine went over to ask him about it. He was raving how great it was and blah blah blah. My friend asked him, "So what's different about it, beside the GUI?" And this guy was like, "Um...it is just neat, and you don't have it." Cause it was without the new file system (which won't be on longhorn anyway) and without a ton of stuff. But it did look pretty...pretty confusing. Stuff was everyone. The desktop looked like a dumping ground. Taskbar at the bottom. Some kind of toolbar on the side, similar to Mac's toolbar at the bottom, and then some other media toolbar. Just cluttered. And so we asked him to show us some stuff. There was nothing. So I was thinking about it. All it really didn't have was the newest Media Player and the new file system. Well now you can download the newest media player and they aren't adding the new file system, so I guess in 2006, they will release basically the same version that guy had back two years ago. LOL!!

  16. I don't get why Intel and Apple are on the list by antifoidulus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    for not meeting their projected processor speed targets. Granted, they were over-hyped but the real reason they did not meet the targets is because both Intel and IBM ran into a lot of unforseen roadblocks when they went to 90 nm technology. I would hardly call that "vaporware".
    Unlike Duke Nukem Forever, they were both going into uncharted waters, and it's really no surprise that they didn't make it to their destination as fast as they had wanted to....

  17. Re:Say what you will about /. design... by Thud457 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Re: Aintitcool

    Talk about vaporware! Interestingly enough, the site has news of a new Buckaroo Banzai book coming out. Where's "Buckaroo Banzai vs The World Crime League"?!!! That's got DNF beat by an order of magnitude!

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  18. In other news.... by mstefanus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Alienware CPU with Intel Pentium 4 4GHz, 2 ATI X800 video cards with Alienware Video Array enabled, running Microsoft Longhorn bundled with Duke Nukem Forever & Cherry OS (Capable of emulating Power PC G5 3GHz) will be available shortly* in computer stores near you...

    *) Time is relative

    P.S.: There are rumours that if you buy two, you will get the Phantom console for free.

  19. Vaporware? by Titusdot+Groan · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Alienware slips by a quarter? Apple and Intel under deliver by a few hundred Mhz?

    They were *really* stretching to get this list to 10 ... I guess things are pretty good in the world of vaporware given the bottom 3.

  20. #1 Phantom spotted at CES by bstadil · · Score: 2, Informative
    Apparently a working? unit is being presented at the CES going on in Las Vegas right now

    Link to Story

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    1. Re:#1 Phantom spotted at CES by DeeFresh · · Score: 3, Informative

      Although that article you linked to claimed that it was running games, another site says that the console was never plugged in during CES. Link to Article here

      The article does mention that the Phantom was part of a display for Windows Embedded Devices, which I guess means someone at Microsoft has seen this thing running, but it still seems a little suspicious to me.

  21. Alienware and 4MHz Pentium by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Okay, these are both a little late, but isn't it a little unfair to call them vaporware? I mean, we can expect to see them eventually (at least the 4MHz CPU), and a delay of about 3 months is nothing like the delay we've suffered waiting for the Phantom. They wouldn't have qualified for these awards if their release date was Q2, and they just came out. Surely an annual award should wait for at least most of a year for a delay.

    1. Re:Alienware and 4MHz Pentium by Harassed · · Score: 2, Funny

      I had a 4MHz PC in about 1990. It was a Tulip machine with an NEC V20 processor running at (iirc) 4.88MHz with a whole 20MB hard drive...

    2. Re:Alienware and 4MHz Pentium by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Informative

      Doh! I'm showing my age. I keep getting my M's and G's mixed up.

  22. WMD ? by Blarfy_Snarflepoop · · Score: 2, Funny

    They were promised - and no one's seen them!

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  23. Re:My favorite quote: by Omega · · Score: 4, Funny
    My favorite is:
    Microsoft's successor to Windows XP was originally promised to ship in 2004, though the company subsequently pushed the launch date to 3015 or something. Obviously, Microsoft won't be able to finish the code until it's had a peek at Apple's forthcoming Tiger.
    Ahh, saying what we're all thinking... :)
  24. Is anyone really working on a new duke3d?! by Anita+Coney · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How long does it really take to make a 3d game when you're using someone elses engine?! First, it was supposed to use the Quake 2 engine. Then it switched over to the Unreal engine. It must have switched again because the Unreal engine is ancient by any standard.

    My guess is that the owners of 3D Realms have enough money where they just don't give a rat's ass.

    Does anyone here actually work for 3D Realms?! What's going on over there?!

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    1. Re:Is anyone really working on a new duke3d?! by me+at+werk · · Score: 2, Informative

      All I can hope is that it's working on the Unreal 3 engine, because by the time it comes out, everyone's computer will handle it at 1000 FPS.

      And here's an Engine Demonstration.

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    2. Re:Is anyone really working on a new duke3d?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      just go to the 3drealms forum. there is one guy (George something) that talks about development from time to time.

      so yes, they still are working on it. this is no excuse for the length of delay (nearly 10 years now), but you have to keep in mind what duke3d was. it was not just another typical FPS. in fact, it had more going on than the first half-life did really. there was the shrink ray, freeze ray, jet pack, pipe bombs, etc. etc.

      the engine is actually a very very minor part of it. when duke3d first came out, it was competing more-or-less with the first quake. despite duke3d being a 2.5D game vs. quake's true 3D... duke3d was much more fun (until quakeworld and mods, at least).

      i'm hopeful that we will see another duke nukem within the next 2-3 years. the only bad thing is that no matter how kickass it will be (and trust me... it will be kickass), it will never be able to live up to the hype. i can already see people saying "i've waited this long for this?!"

    3. Re:Is anyone really working on a new duke3d?! by Anita+Coney · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh I agree that Duke3d was great. Probably the most fun FPS ever. If I owned Realms I'd re-release the original game using a more modern engine, e.g., the Q3 engine.

      Practically everyone who owned/played the original would buy it. And it would whet our appetite for the new game.

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  25. Irony by patonw · · Score: 5, Funny

    Would anyone find it ironic if Wired hyped their vaporware awards for an entire year and didn't come out with one that year?

  26. Re:x800? by Skier4Life · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was thinking the same thing. We have a system at work that has a X800 installed in it, we got it 6 months ago. Also we just got three X800 XTs in the middle of december. I don't see how these cards can be considered vapourware.

    Also, we didn't jump through any special hops to get these cards, we just placed an order with a local computer store, like any Joe Blow is able to do.

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  27. SCO Group's Evidence? by kuwan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What about the SCO Group's evidence that Linux contains Unix source code?

    After nearly two years and Darl McBride's claims of "mountains of code" you'd think they'd have shown something by now.
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    1. Re:SCO Group's Evidence? by Dachannien · · Score: 2, Funny

      As with all good vaporware code, they haven't finished writing it.

  28. Re:Elite 4 by sootman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Skipping 4 might not be enough--Windows went from 3 to 95, just to be extra-extra safe, and look where it got them. They didn't make any real progress until they skipped 99 through 1999.

    After that, the numbers got so high they jumped to a base-36 system (0-9,A-Z) with XP. (Ha ha, just kidding. 'XP' is only 1,213 in base-36. I don't really know where XP came from. But they obviously need to get back up above 2000 if they want to get anywhere.)

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  29. My favorite piece of vaporware by mcc · · Score: 5, Funny

    is the second coming of Jesus Christ.

    1,900 years behind the original schedule, man.

    What the fuck?

    1. Re:My favorite piece of vaporware by jdavidb · · Score: 4, Informative

      While popular religion often presents the idea that early Christians all believed the coming of Christ would be immediate, this is actually explicitly refuted in the Bible in II Thessalonians 2:1-3.

      Jesus did state that the kingdom of heaven would come "in this generation" (his generation, not ours) (Mark 9:1, Matthew 24:34), but He also taught that the kingdom was not of this world (John 18:36) and was "within you" (Luke 17:20-21). Since the Bible later identifies the kingdom as the church, refers to Christians already being a part of the kingdom in the past tense rather than future (Colossians 1:13), describes Christ as presently serving as King rather than serving as King in the future (Acts 2:33, Hebrews 12:2), and describes Christ as returning the Kingdom to the Father at His second coming rather than establishing the Kingdom at that time (I Corinthians 15:24), it seems that the prophecy of Christ of the coming of the kingdom referred to the establishment of the church, rather than to His coming at the end of time.

      Finally, both Christ (Mark 13:32) and His apostles (I Thessalonians 5:2) stated that noone knew the time of His coming and that it would be without warning, like a thief in the night. Thus, while I and II Thessalonians indicate that many early Christians may have misunderstood, a properly educated 1st century C.E. Christian holding to the doctrine of the second coming as taught by Christ and His apostles would have recognized that the day might or might not come in the immediate future.

      That said, you did get a laugh out of me. ;) Hope you found the Bible info informative and that addressing a serious response to a joke doesn't bug you. (That's how I learned everything in high school physics; the teacher addressed serious responses to my jokes.)

    2. Re:My favorite piece of vaporware by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 5, Funny

      early Christians all believed the coming of Christ would be immediate, this is actually explicitly refuted in the Bible in II Thessalonians 2:1-3.

      Even more clearly, Futurama 1:12 clearly states that the second coming of Jesus will be in 2443 (though apparently he will be a Zombie).

    3. Re:My favorite piece of vaporware by jc42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Some years ago, I read a sci fi story whose plot was basically that Jesus did return within a century, and many more times in the following centuries. Every time, the same thing happened: He was killed. Finally, he gave up, and went on to other planets that were in need of his help.

      The story was told from the viewpoint of a ship full of human space explorers, who kept coming across planets that were paradises, and the inhabitants attributed this to a holy man in the recent past who had taught them how to live right. But they couldn't find a planet with such a holy man; they kept arriving just after he had left.

      Now if I could remember the story's title or author ...

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    4. Re:My favorite piece of vaporware by jdavidb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Amazingly, some people enjoy learning about the culture, lifestyles, and thought processes of people different from themselves. Just that not very many people like this are on slashdot.

    5. Re:My favorite piece of vaporware by SkipRosebaugh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't remember the first paragraph, but I do remember the second. If I'm right, it should be 'The Man', by Bradbury.

    6. Re:My favorite piece of vaporware by dbIII · · Score: 2, Informative
      a properly educated 1st century C.E. Christian
      That was at least a hundred years before a committee decided that Mary was a virgin and brought the cult of Isis wholesale into the Christian church. We really don't know much about what the early church thought in those early years when Roman, Jewish and Greek traditions were all being mixed together. It would be interesting to see where the Coptic and Chaldean New Testiment differs to our Roman version.
  30. 'Phantom' is more than just a physical machine. by oneiros27 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Anyone can throw a computer in a pretty case and call it by whatever name they want -- the big deal is the price point they claim to be able to deliver (similar to a console, which MS already did with the XBox), and the concept of a 'subscription' (with a delivery mechanism) for games.

    Showing a physical unit off at the CES is like showing a MMORPG without any multi-user support -- it might look pretty, but it's missing the core feature that's supposed to make it special.

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  31. Where is SCO? by gosand · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wonder why SCO didn't make the list with its claims of infringing code in Linux.

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  32. SysRq has its usage by AtariAmarok · · Score: 2, Informative
    "Or how about that fabled DOS-version where SysRq had some function?"

    I've seen it used. Google sysrq and you fill find plenty of things that use it.

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    Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
  33. Re:Elite 4 by panaceaa · · Score: 4, Funny

    No no, you have it all wrong. In 2003 they jumped to a base-1305 system. XP actually stands for 31338. Yes, that's right: it's beyond elite.

  34. Steve fessed up to it by acomj · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In the july Macworld, steve jobs showed everyone the slide from a year ago promissing 3 ghz. He said IBM was having trouble creating faster chips, but they were getting faster, just they were behind schedule.

    Then he some convoluted explaination that they were getting faster at a faster rate %wise than intel which was a confusing statement since both chip makers increased speed by the same # of mhz..

    Oh well..

    1. Re:Steve fessed up to it by greed · · Score: 2, Informative
      Then he some convoluted explaination that they were getting faster at a faster rate %wise than intel which was a confusing statement since both chip makers increased speed by the same # of mhz.

      But that's exactly the point, a 500 MHz improvement on a 2GHz chip is a 25% increase in speed, and a 500 MHz improvement on a 3GHz chip is only 17% faster.

      Think about it. A 100 MHz Pentium to a 200 MHz Pentium is a big deal (100% faster). A 3.2 GHz Xeon to a 3.3 GHz Xeon isn't worth the upgrade (not even 4% faster); you'd only get the faster chip if you were building a new system anyway.

  35. Re:Elite 4 by panaceaa · · Score: 4, Funny

    My math was wrong. XP base 1305 is 31336. It's not even elite :(.

    That's it, I'm switching to Linux.

  36. SCO "proof" is the biggest vaporware by Supp0rtLinux · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think they missed something very key. The other big (in my opinion... the true #1) is the proof that SCO supposedly has and keeps promising to show the world about the Unix code in Linux. They managed to start lots of lawsuits and even gained a few licensees. However, on numerous occasions they promised to "show the proof", yet they have yet to do so. We're coming up on year three and to date, no one has seen any damning code... not even those that signed the NDA.

  37. Intel lower on list than Apple? by revscat · · Score: 4, Funny

    9. Intel's Pentium 4 at 4 GHz

    Intel was supposed to pump the Pentium 4 to 4 GHz in 2004. It fizzled at 3.8....

    8. Apple Computer's G5 Chips at 3 GHz

    Intel's in good company. Nobody hit the chip speeds they promised. In June 2003, Apple CEO Steve Jobs said IBM's G5 chips would be at 3 GHz within 12 months. It's been 18.

    Ok, now why did they put Apple higher on the list than Intel? Intel has a far broader market reach, and Apple is dependent upon IBM for their chips. Intel is dependent on Intel. Doesn't seem fair, does it? Doesn't seem fair to Apple, does it?

    Holy shit. Did I just write that? Was that me? Well folks, I think it's time to go chew on a shotgun barrel. I hereby bequeath my G5 to that stripper at Baby Doll's who really liked me. Maybe she can perform with it.

    Oh man, now look at that last sentence... My sexual fantasies are involving G5s. Fuck this. Off with my head.

  38. The John Kerry Administration by raider_red · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey, they were sure they could beat Bush.

    We can also add Saddam's WMDs to the list.

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  39. Re:Elite 4 by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Informative
    MS went through a whole phase of skipping version 4 products. They went from Windows 3 to 3.1, to 3.11, to 95. They went from DirectX 3, to 3a, to 5 (maybe via 3b). MS Word jumped straight from version 2 to version 6. Interestingly (or not) Psion did the same thing, releasing a Series 3, a 3s, a 3a, a 3c, a 3mx and a Series 5.

    In Microsoft's case, I suspect it was just a bad association with the number 4 from the old DOS days (remember DOS 4? Remember being told to stick with 3.x and wait for 5.x?), but it may also have had something to do with catering for the Japanese market - in Japan the number 4 is associated with death, and is considered unlucky. They seem to take this quite seriously - when I was over there I noticed that chop sticks were on sale in packs of 2 or 5 (when are 5 chop sticks ever useful?) to avoid packaging them in packs of 4.

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  40. Re:Elite 4 by jd · · Score: 3, Informative
    The original Elite was a work of sheer genius, combining unique elements, an unheard-of split-resolution mechanism, a staggering level of complexity and microscopic binaries by today's standards.


    Virus and Virus 2000 showed a lot of the phenominal mind of David Braben, with impressive graphics and a complex realistic flying system.


    In addition to that, he's one of the VERY few coder/designer/CEOs who ALSO are willing to spend the time answering people's questions on USENET. He also ran a survey to see if there was interest in a Linux version of Elite, at the request of fans. That kind of response is rare, but very much appreciated.


    Unfortunately, Braben's promises of Elite 4, the debacles over Frontier and FFE, the failure to market Virus 2000 in the US, allegations that he was involved in the killing-off of the clone "Elite: The New Kind", alleged harassment of Ian Bell over his Elite website, etc, suggest that there is a less welcome side to his character.


    Most of these are beyond fixing today. Elite 4 is not. But people won't remember the Elite series forever. There's only so big a timeframe to operate in. If he needs help, ideas, support, whatever - that's fine, we can all understand that, but he's not going to get any of those if he doesn't ask, and he might well not get as good as is there, if he's seen as secretive and hostile.


    Elite 4 is vaporware, right now, and one of the worst examples of it. If it's done right, though, AND released, it could be a serious killer app in the games market. Even if it's "perfect" and the ultimate product ever written, nobody is going to care if they can't ever see it.

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