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Google Exposes Web Surveillance Cams

An anonymous reader writes "Blogs and message forums buzzed this week with the discovery that a pair of simple Google searches permits access to well over 1,000 unprotected surveillance cameras around the world - apparently without their owners' knowledge." Apparently many of the cams are even aimable. Oops!

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  1. The question is by cainskltn · · Score: 4, Funny

    What is the search keyword.

    1. Re:The question is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      inurl:/view/index.shtml

    2. Re:The question is by AstroDrabb · · Score: 4, Informative
      Here is the webcam search URL:
      inurl:"view/index.shtml"
      Here is a list of others
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    3. Re:The question is by ffunch · · Score: 5, Informative

      I did a page at http://www.opentopia.com/hiddencam.php that picks up a few hundred of the cameras found in google with inurl:"axis-cgi/mjpg", scans them every couple of hours, grabs the first picture from the Motion JPEG stream, geocodes them with their general location, and shows them in one page for easy access. Saves a bit of the trouble.

  2. Security vs. Stupidity by bigattichouse · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This just underlines the engineer's problem with making something secure, yet making sure every moron in the U.S. can plug it in and turn it on and have it basically work.

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    1. Re:Security vs. Stupidity by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Insightful
      This just underlines the engineer's problem with making something secure, yet making sure every moron in the U.S. can plug it in and turn it on and have it basically work.

      Well, it's really just another example of engineers doing the job right, only to then have a PHB of some ilk tell them, "Now I want to be able to watch this from my office or my cell phone or from home, etc." Where the Engineer exclaims, "Doh!" and does it because he/she's not paid to THINK.

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    2. Re:Security vs. Stupidity by GrunthosTheFlatulent · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When given a choice, every manufacturer out there will make something easy to set up at the cost of being safe, out of the box. Just look at wireless access points: plug them in and they simply work. (Of course, you've just created a hotspot for your whole neighborhood) Clearly they have calculated that if they do not require you to go through the extra step of securing it, you are that much less likely to call them for tech support, or return the product.

    3. Re:Security vs. Stupidity by JPriest · · Score: 4, Informative

      These are not peoples personal webcams, these are $500 - $2000 buisness cameras most of them are watching traffic and empty offices, and seem to be intended for public access.

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    4. Re:Security vs. Stupidity by elpapacito · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not the job of engineers goddamit !

      I'm sick and tired of hearing marketing, human resources, finance and 99% of the world of "business" come cry me a river when they complain system doesn't work as expected because they didn't know what the customer really wanted. Not even the customer knew what he wanted, they all came to me saying " it must be cheap and basically print me money "

      Yeah sure and If I had the method I'd be working for you fools would I ?

      Go ask Alan Greenspan you yahoos !

    5. Re:Security vs. Stupidity by SamNmaX · · Score: 3, Insightful
      It's not the job of engineers goddamit !

      I'm sick and tired of hearing marketing, human resources, finance and 99% of the world of "business" come cry me a river when they complain system doesn't work as expected because they didn't know what the customer really wanted. Not even the customer knew what he wanted, they all came to me saying " it must be cheap and basically print me money "

      A big part of engineering is figuring out what the user wants. The user can't be trusted to automatically know exactly what it is he wants that's possible to do. If as an engineer you simply take what's initially asked for, you likely won't get far. If something is impossible, you have to explain to your customer that it is, and provide alternatives. Make sure everyone knows exactly what's going on. While marketers, customers, etc. all have their own faults in the process, you can't simply pass the entire buck to them.

      As well, the issue of making something easy to use yet secure, as the grandparent post suggested, is not impossible nor impractical.

  3. The URL I use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I use http://www.google.ca/search?q=inurl%3A%22axis-cgi% 2Fmjpg%22&btnG=Google to find them. It works great.

  4. a search string for the lazy/stupid among us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2 coff=1&q=inurl%3A%22MultiCameraFrame%3FMode%3D%22

  5. Run your own surveillance by Brushfireb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is why you should never trust some other company with your own surveillance needs. There are plenty of camera + software combinations that can do TCP/IP stuff and you can tinker with it yourself and set it up on your own apache server.

    I am sure someone will post with OSS software solutions.

    Aside from that, how many people really need web-enabled surveillance? Just record it to HD or have it monitored live in closed-circuit fashion.

    Brushfireb

    1. Re:Run your own surveillance by marcello_dl · · Score: 2, Informative

      Never tested it, but Zone minder seems promising.

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    2. Re:Run your own surveillance by wankledot · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I work with IP video surveillance (among other things) for a living.

      This is a good example of why you SHOULD trust some other company. Chances are that company knows more than you do about setting up a system. Choosing the right people to work with is obviously important. I wouldn't trust myself to set up an alarm system for my offices, I would hire someone who knew what they were doing.

      Most of the good cameras out there have built-in webservers. Sending motion JPEG over a network from the embedded webserver on the camera is the most common and efficient way to manage a larger camera installation, especially if you are recording. If you have a school district with 10 sites, 5 cameras each, using a network video system and central recording is a fraction of the cost of a traditional CCTV or even DVR (digital recording of analog cameras) setup. Configuring the camera incorrectly leads to problems like this, taking a step backwards to CCTV or other technology is not the answer.

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    3. Re:Run your own surveillance by Fishstick · · Score: 3, Funny

      chastity belt? :-)

      man, I hate it when the wife gets 'rooted' by the (pool|mail|ups)guy!

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    4. Re:Run your own surveillance by GaryOlson · · Score: 2, Funny
      This is slashdot...

      do you really have a wife?

      your pasty white complexion tells me you don't have a pool either.

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    5. Re:Run your own surveillance by djdavetrouble · · Score: 4, Funny

      Listen, I am getting tired of this joke, sure, lots of you are socially inept nerds, but I do have a wife, and I know for a fact that she is outside showing the gardener something or other in the back yard. Let me pull up my surveillance cam, see, there she is showing the gardener the. um . WTF ?!

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  6. some cameras by cat.os.mandros · · Score: 4, Informative

    For the curious, here there is an article (in spanish, sorry) with some links to cams and what terms to search to find more, happy watching :)

    http://sindominio.net/suburbia/article.php3?id_art icle=146

  7. The best ones so far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I got a jump on this from the Boing Boing post a couple days ago. I use inurl:"axis-cgi/mjpg".
    This one seems to show every page printed off of some printer. http://81.72.76.218/view/index.shtml. Right now it's some photo.
    This one http://217.148.2.106/view/index.shtml shows somes bar (German?) that seems very active.
    This one http://24.173.235.172:8001/axis-cgi/mjpg/video.cgi ?camera=&showlength=1&resolution=640x480 Shows animals under the knife, I've yet to catch a surgery yet.

    Anybody find any other cool ones?

    1. Re:The best ones so far by zwei2stein · · Score: 2, Interesting

      some kind of australian lab/research instalation, seems to be meeting room:

      http://130.102.102.252/ViewerFrame?Mode=Motion&L an guage=0

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    2. Re:The best ones so far by asreal · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Austin International Airport Security:

      http://lobbycamera4.abia.org/axis-cgi/mjpg/video .c gi?camera=&resolution=640x480

    3. Re:The best ones so far by Sir+Tandeth · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, this is the x-ray scanning stations. Also, there are lobby cameras 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 http://lobbycamera1.abia.org/ http://lobbycamera2.abia.org/ http://lobbycamera3.abia.org/ http://lobbycamera4.abia.org/

    4. Re:The best ones so far by gerdemb · · Score: 2, Informative

      Isn't this the same views that you can get from the public web page? I don't think this one is supposed to be a secret...

      http://www.abia.org/c2g/curb2gate.htm

  8. The search queries are... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Use Google and search for the following:
    inurl:"ViewerFrame?Mode="
    or:
    inurl:"MultiCameraFrame?Mode="

  9. search keyword - find the most interesting place! by Janek+Kozicki · · Score: 2, Interesting

    one two

    I have clicked some of them, and indded some provide pictures of various random places, like shopping center, bureau, or parking lot. But I've noticed that some of them are asking for a password, or simply refuse to connect. Does it mean that admins had fast response to this issue? :)

    And btw - slashdotting thousands of cameras around the world is really funny. Karma prize for a person that finds the most interesting places!

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  10. X10 anyone? by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This is why you should never trust some other company with your own surveillance needs. There are plenty of camera + software combinations that can do TCP/IP stuff and you can tinker with it yourself and set it up on your own apache server.

    Sure, and if you're inexperienced or a moron then you can do it wrong, just as these people have. High quality tools can still be misused by dolts.

    I am sure someone will post with OSS software solutions. Aside from that, how many people really need web-enabled surveillance? Just record it to HD or have it monitored live in closed-circuit fashion.

    Does anyone remember the article, couple years back about people using X10 cams for survelience, which were easily monitored from, not a black suburban, but so much as a Yugo with a coathanger antenna out in the street? It's about understanding the deployment needs and big picture of security.

    "hey, I can see myself in the bathroom in the internet.... uh..."

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  11. interesting by mr_tommy · · Score: 4, Informative

    On pages with non-enlish text (E.G. this one http://aquashop-es.miemasu.net/MultiCameraFrame?Mo de=Motion&Language=1)

    change language=1 to language=0 to get english text.

  12. Daycares with cams by FerretFrottage · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While looking ofr daycare for my kids, I came across a few that offered web based cam viewing of the kids/classrooms. My wife thought it was a great idea til I suggested that anyone could potentially view the kids....sex offenders, children theft services, etc. Sure the school offered password based access, but any system that is turned on can be compromised. Maybe it's the paranoid dad in me, but while it may be nice to see what my kids and teachers are doing, it scares me that some pediphile may be watching what kids are doing, learning their favorite activites, and their overall daily schedule. The ped could even be a parent that has a kid registered at the school making access even easier. So in the end, I axed schools that has cams (especially wireless ones) and convinced my wife based on the reasons above.

    Perhaps some places have policies where the camera is on only for certain periods of time that vary weekly and IT departments that verify access logs, but I saw no such plans when I checked.

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    1. Re:Daycares with cams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Christ....A little paranoid huh? What happens when the kid has to walk out in pubic, are you gonna shroud it so no one can look at the kid? People have eyes and see other people out in public....When your kid is on the playground at your cam free daycare, how do you know some sicko isn't watching them?

    2. Re:Daycares with cams by horza · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe it's the paranoid dad in me, but while it may be nice to see what my kids and teachers are doing, it scares me that some pediphile may be watching what kids are doing, learning their favorite activites, and their overall daily schedule. The ped could even be a parent that has a kid registered at the school making access even easier. So in the end, I axed schools that has cams (especially wireless ones) and convinced my wife based on the reasons above.

      You sound totally paranoid. The driver of your school bus could be a pedo. In fact don't take your kid to the beach, a pedo-infested hunting ground. Statistically walking down the street your kid may pass a few.

      Despite what the media may say, the world is populated by mostly normal people. Teaching your kid the dangers and a bit of common sense, and a CCTV camera by the school gates where the kids are picked up, should ensure nothing happens. Please don't inflict your irrational fears on your kids, the media and certain Prominent Politicians will be doing far too much of that already.

      Phillip.

    3. Re:Daycares with cams by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 5, Funny
      FerretFrottage (714136)

      Funny how people with one deviant obsession are so annoyed by people with another. ;-)

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    4. Re:Daycares with cams by danila · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You are an idiot. It is an order of magnitude more likely that your child would be raped/coerced to sex by your brother, uncle, father, cousin or another relative. Not to mention that you are extremely likely to mess up the life of the child in the future with your paranoia. No, Cindy, you can't go on a hiking trip with your class, a pervert may be hiding in the woods. No, Cindy, you can't go to a prom, there might be a paedophile there. No, Cindy, I don't like that boyfriend of yours, he seems to be sexually attracted to young girls. Meanwhile you probably secretly fantasize about having sex with underage cheerleaders yourself...

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    5. Re:Daycares with cams by mslinux · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Perhaps some places have policies where the camera is on only for certain periods of time that vary weekly and IT departments that verify access logs, but I saw no such plans when I checked.

      You're joking, right? Daycare jobs pay below the poverty level. Their workers are a big percentage of the 'working poor'. You think they have enough money to pay 'IT Departments'... what planet are you from ;)

    6. Re:Daycares with cams by BitterOak · · Score: 2, Funny
      How does someone statistically walk down a street?

      It's a quantum mechanical thing. Any time you go somewhere you are really taking all possible routes along all possible streets. Only when you are observed do the laws of statistics come into play and the routes collapse into one real route. So the surveillance cameras do indeed play a vital role of providing that observer. Caveat: it's been a while since I studied QM, so I might be slightly wrong here.

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    7. Re:Daycares with cams by dj42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I just thought I should point out this is one of those stats that loses its meaning out of context, sort of like "Most Car Accidents Occur Near Home, So Buckle Up Even For Short Trips". Well, yes, smartass, they do occur near home mostly. Why? Because 90% of car trips ARE NEAR HOME. IF you're constantly driving near where you live, it seems like it'd increase the chances of a wreck there, yes? Same with kids being hurt by their family. Who do they see more... random pedos walking down the street, or their family?... Seriously.

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  13. ooh by Besatt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Holy crap: "women doing laundry".

    1. Re:ooh by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sounds positively HOT, which cam was that? My wife never does the laundry!

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  14. detailed links by pollock · · Score: 3, Informative

    graffe.com suggests searching for inurl:"ViewerFrame?Mode=".

    You can do slightly bettter by searching for inurl:"MultiCameraFrame?Mode=", as mentioned on Metafilter.

    1. Re:detailed links by mastervisi · · Score: 2, Informative

      Another fun keyword search is inurl:"/remote6/".
      Tracker Cam's use this in their urls. These cam's are they type that can be move around and seem to be one of the favs for "in the bedroom" used cam's.

    2. Re:detailed links by nolife · · Score: 2, Funny

      Okay, whoever else is viewing http://216.76.95.195:8090/remote6/, stop panning to the window, I want to zoom in on the desk. It should be my turn to control the camera now.

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  15. Simple solution by Snags · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It should be obvious, but any web server that doesn't want to be on google should serve up the appropriate robots.txt file. This includes webcams in their default configuration.

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  16. Welcome to last October by dq5+studios · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Johnny at IHackStuff has a huge list of fun things like this you can get from google.
    Here is the list of searches for network aware stuff: Google Cached since main site is down
    Some search phrases for cameras are: "camera linksys inurl:main.cgi" and
    "powered by webcamXP" "Pro|Broadcast"

    Don't forget that google can limit results to region by using "site:.jp" or similar.

  17. a bunch of peepings toms... by Saeger · · Score: 2, Funny
    ...or a glimpse at the "transparent society"?

    In any case, I have to admit that one of my guilty pleasures used to be (before the slashdotting) this fun link to... 137 java-controllable webcams around the world: http://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3Aliveapple t+inurl%3ALvAppl

    A certain japanese construction site has made a lot progress lately. :)

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  18. Slashdot effect on webcams? by byteCoder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is this the first recorded instance of a wide array of small webcam servers getting simultaneously slashdotted?

  19. Re:search keyword - find the most interesting plac by 2MuchC0ffeeMan · · Score: 3, Interesting
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  20. ZOOM! ZOOM! by Corellon+Larethian · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where's the bloody ZOOM!!

  21. Root Password by nodnoL · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is also a known vulnerability with the root password

    http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/bugtraq/2001/ 12/msg00067.html

  22. Does it matter they are public? by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since most of them are being used as simple security cameras for simi-public areas, there really isn't much secret data that is going to be discovered..

    So you can watch cars in a parking lot.. Or people mill around the mall...Big risk there..

    I don't see a big deal that most of them are not being locked down. Unless i missed something here..

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  23. Re:Fun but dangerious? by mikewhittaker · · Score: 2, Funny
    I presume the Bushism in the Subject was intentional ;-)

    Incidentally, Bush was born in Connecticut, so I often wonder why they call Texas his home state.

    Adopted, I suppose.

  24. Google Links to Web cams by Numeric · · Score: 5, Informative
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    1. Re:Google Links to Web cams by Britz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Great list. I tried a couple, it works.

      Now suppose someone (like many Slasdoters at the moment will, since you were so nice to put up this list) browses a couple cams and witnesses a murder.

      What to do? Who to call? How to get the culprit? Maybe save the victim? What is this cam is located in Barzil?

      He would ask Slashdot for help.

      And this would be the first crime solved on Slashdot. (or not)

      Now what if some mean old Slashdot guy puts up a fake cam site with a video of some staged crime...

      The implications ...

      Think of more!

    2. Re:Google Links to Web cams by Eminence · · Score: 2, Informative
      > Google - home" Requires installation of activeX plug-in. Great video feeds.

      No, it doesn't - if you use homeJ.html links, there is a Java viewer that works on all platforms. Like in this search. Some of them have even working controls, although most show boring construction sites.

  25. robots.txt not obvious by Animaether · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's not really obvious.

    If you don't want your webserver to be 'found' then either :
    A. don't put it online. (Right)
    B. security through obscurity: don't link to it, don't save a record of it. No links = no crawling/spidering.
    C. Put it behind a server-wise password

    Because in the end, Google may respect robots.txt but I, for one, don't when creating a local cache of a site using HTTrack .
    And I'd imagine there's search engines which ignore it just as well.

    1. Re:robots.txt not obvious by jkovach · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes.

      Opera (the unregistered version with the ads) also uses Google to provide advertising, so anybody who browses to your site using Opera will make Google aware of your site. I had a page on my website that was linked to only from my IM profile, and I was looking through the logs and noticed someone use Opera to view my site, followed one second later by a bunch of hits from Google (probably trying to figure out what sort of ad to show.) Not linking to a page doesn't keep it secret in today's world - you need a password, period.

  26. Re:search keyword - find the most interesting plac by loucura! · · Score: 2, Interesting
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  27. Speaking of IP cam, why isn't there higher res.... by tcc · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you look on axis's site, you see most of them atre ~640x480 resolution, one being 1280x960, toshiba also has one megapixel version but it's astronomically out of price reach for simple applications.

    With all of those sub 100 cameras that are going up to 3mpix these days, how come there aren't "HD"webcams or anything similar in the cheap end of the spectrum? it would be good enough for low-level consumer home security, and I'm sure it would sell like crazy. I know the image quality wouldn't be equal to the top webcam using CCD out there, but some application would require more resolution before perfect color reproduction.

    Anyways just a thought... If anyone could point me to something that already exists, it would be nice, as I am sure a lot of people here would jump on this... :)

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  28. They still wont know by KhalidBoussouara · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Even eafter this story has been posted and many of the cameras have been slashdotted the admins still wont have a clue.

    These have been known for a while. It's hardly breaking news. I visit the site soetimes. There is a lot more than cameras. There are links for usernames, passwords, databases, etc.

  29. iSight by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I heard about this sort of security problem when CU-SeeMe first came out years ago and I'm surprised it has become an issue again. Apple's iSight has a built-in iris that closes when you twist the lens, and twisting the lens also doubles as a switch for turning the camera on and off as well as launching iChat AV. Plus, there's a little LED that lets you know when it's on. I always thought that webcams should always have a physical lens cap on them because just for that added security, and never considered getting one until the iSight came out.

  30. Where are the naked coeds? by glrotate · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ok, I've clicked on the links mentioned and the results from google and I'm getting weather cams and empty offices.

    We all know why we jumped on this story so now somebody needes to deliver!

  31. Re:Simple solution-THAT FAILS by way2trivial · · Score: 2, Informative
    owning a veo webcam, which can be searched for in similar fashion (I did, before I bought mine) I can tell you, I can't do JACK to the mini-server built into the camera. I can but give the camera a firmware update..

    further, if security is the issue, there are indexes that IGNORE robots.txt file, (and I'm sure there are some that actively look for robots.txt that are exclusionary) not everyone lives by the motto "do no evil"

    a spider reading the robots.txt is a nice, perfect world, internet convention, much like SMTP- and we all know how well that ended up.

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  32. How it should be? by digitaltraveller · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As David Brin frames it - I've stolen his opinion for this post, the key issues are transparency and egalitarianism.
    The fact that we can look is not the problem. The problem with surveillance cameras is when people can look at us, but we can't look back.

    Wouldn't it be better if a women going to her car can look at surveillance cameras up the block to make sure she will arrive safely? Or a citizen's watch groups can virtually patrol it's own neighbourhood?

    The key problem is when a select few can control and abuse the technology and possibly enforce the law selectively. For example, corrupt cops losing video evidence of them beating someone to death.

    I'm not completely sold on the idea, but it's an opinion worth considering.
    Transparent Society

  33. Airport Security at its finest! by ServeYourWorld · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://lobbycamera2.abia.org/view/index.shtml

  34. most interesting - Casino anyone? by Enabrein · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://24.234.255.102/axis-cgi/mjpg/video.cgi?came ra=4&resolution=352x240

  35. Re:Hey buddy... by mini+me · · Score: 2, Funny

    I saw a couple of college age kids making out on one cam, but that's as close as I have got.

  36. Good reason to make security cams public.. by slashmojo · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Its not such a bad idea to make security cameras publicly viewable (although allowing the public to conrtol them is another matter) for example it essentially gives you a whole world full of witnesses to whatever events may happen..

    Lets say your local friendly 'protection' dude wanders in to your shop one day asking for money 'or else'.. you can either..

    a) inform him that his every move is being watched by a million slashdotters..

    b) pull your gun out from under the counter and blow his brains out - then tell the police there's plenty of witnesses to interview.. ;)

  37. Google stopped me by future+assassin · · Score: 5, Interesting
    If I use inurl:"webcam/index.php evantually I get this message from Google Thsi only happens with the above text using .php and not inurl:/view/index.shtml With .shtml I can search forever.

    Google Error We're sorry... ... but we can't process your request right now. A computer virus or spyware application is sending us automated requests, and it appears that your computer or network has been infected. We'll restore your access as quickly as possible, so try again soon. In the meantime, you might want to run a virus checker or spyware remover to make sure that your computer is free of viruses and other spurious software. We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope we'll see you again on Google.

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    1. Re:Google stopped me by kiddailey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      lol - it would seem to me that they their automated tools are mistaking a slashdotting for an infection.

    2. Re:Google stopped me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      mistaking?

  38. But why were they crawled? by jtara · · Score: 3, Insightful

    OK, so you can do a Google search for part of the URL and find all of the cameras that Google knows about.

    But why does Google know about them in the first place?

    Google (or any other indexing bot) can't find web pages that don't have a link to them. And, typically, they can only find sites that have links from other sites, or that have been "suggested" to the search engine by a user.

    So, somebody put a link to the webcam in a publically-accessible page somewhere. If somebody puts a link to a security cam or a nanny cam in their home page or blog, sure, they can expect the world to be looking in!

    1. Re:But why were they crawled? by NuclearDog · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes it does crawl it.

      But, as the parent said, it will never find a site _unless_ there is a link to it.

      Google does not just make up URLs and domains and try brute-forcing them, it follows links on already known-of pages. Therefore we can assume that somewhere, someone has linked to these cameras. Linking to your webcam on the internet kind of implies that it is open to the public, does it not?

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    2. Re:But why were they crawled? by SEE · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But why does Google know about them in the first place?

      Publically-accessible referrer page logs.

      Let's say A.com/index.html links to B.com/index.html, and to A.com/referrerlog.html. B.com has three pages -- B.com/index.html, B.com/webcam.html, and B.com/referrerlog.html -- but B.com/index.html doesn't link to either of them. However, B.com/webcam.html has a link to B.com/index.html

      How does Google wind up with a link chain to B.com/webcam.html?

      Well, OwnerB checked B.com/webcam.html, and then hits the link on that page to B.com/index.html. This creates a referrer entry in B.com/referrerlog.html to the webcam page, since it logs referrers to B.com pages.

      Later on, OwnerB chacks his referrer page, and sees he's been getting hits from A.com/index.html. Interested in what the link is saying about him, he clicks on the address. As he arrives at A.com/index.html, a referrer entry appears in A.com/referrerlog.html pointing to B.com/referrerlog.html.

      Now Google's spider reaches A.com/index.html, and follows the link to A.com/referrerlog.html. There, it finds a link to B.com/referrerlog.html, and follows it. Now, at B.com/referrerlog.html, it finds a link to B.com/webcam.html . . . and indexes it.

      Now, despite OwnerB never having (intentionally) linked to either his referrer log or his webcam site, both have been found and indexed by Google. Oops.

  39. Shortcut by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    If someone tells us, "Get outside more", does this count?

  40. This is awesome... by Cryptnotic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Meanwhile you probably secretly fantasize about having sex with underage cheerleaders yourself...

    In case anyone didn't notice, danila looked up the posting history of FerretFrottage and found a post to use as incriminating evidence against him. This is a rather advanced flaming technique. I am quite impressed. Well done.

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    1. Re:This is awesome... by ErikTheRed · · Score: 2, Funny
      Meanwhile you probably secretly fantasize about having sex with underage cheerleaders yourself...

      In case anyone didn't notice, danila looked up the posting history of FerretFrottage and found a post to use as incriminating evidence against him. This is a rather advanced flaming technique. I am quite impressed. Well done.
      Technically, FerretFrottage is only flaming if [s]he is male, and so are the aforementioned cheerleaders.
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  41. Re:Speaking of IP cam, why isn't there higher res. by appleLaserWriter · · Score: 2, Informative

    Bandwidth is the answer. A camera at 640x480 at 30fps has to have compression turned *way* up to make it out the typical home user's 256k or 512k of upstream bandwidth.

    Next, the phillips TriMedia chip and competitors support real-time compression at 640x480 and are available in volume. Chips that can suport compression at higher resolutions aren't made in volume, so are much more expensive.

    Finally, if you need high resolution, just switch to a telephoto lens. If you need to look at several areas of detail, use several cameras.