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Biggest Identity Thief Ever Gets Put Away

Anonymous Brave Guy writes "Apparently computer helpdesk employee Philip Cummings had more than just a day job: he's just gone down for 14 years in the biggest identity theft case ever. Lots of fascinating nuggets of information in that story: apparently fake ID goes for as little as $60, and the total stolen over just a couple of years was somewhere in the $50m-100m range."

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  1. Just write it off I guess by Lindsay+Lohan · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Philip Cummings, 35... a computer helpdesk employee...
    Losses have been estimated to be between $50m (£38m) and $100m (£76m).
    Cummings, who is still free on bail, must report to prison on 9 March. He is also due to pay compensation to be agreed at a later date.
    Something tells me the 30,000 people he scammed aren't going to see a dime. Since Phil is not allowed to compensate with stolen funds, and he is unlikely to be returning to his lucrative helpdesk job anytime soon, I doubt he'll be able to fork over even $1 per victim.
    1. Re:Just write it off I guess by m3j00 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Something tells me the 30,000 people he scammed aren't going to see a dime. Since Phil is not allowed to compensate with stolen funds, and he is unlikely to be returning to his lucrative helpdesk job anytime soon, I doubt he'll be able to fork over even $1 per victim.

      The actual "victim" in these cases is almost always the creditor, not the person whose identity was stolen. It costs the person a bunch of time and energy to correct the problems, but the stolen money comes from the creditors, and they have a budget for fraud.

    2. Re:Just write it off I guess by nizo · · Score: 4, Funny

      But how much are all of his body parts worth at auction? Kidneys, corneas, heart, etc. Seems fair to me. Sadly still not enough I am sure.

    3. Re:Just write it off I guess by mindstrm · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yup, and that's how it is supposed to work. The onus is on the merchant to ensure that the person using the credit card is, in fat, authorized to use it.

      The credit card is a token, a symbol to show that a given issuer is extending you credit, and will pay the merchant on demand. It is not the credit itself.

      Far too many merchants do not check signatures and/or ask for identification.. and that's fine, because it's their gamble, not mine.

      You can generally contest any payment made on your credit card, and the merchant will have to demonstrate that you authorized the transaction, or he's out of luck. Barring a signature, or stuff shipped to your address, or perhaps video evidence, there isn't much they can do.

  2. Sorry by savagedome · · Score: 3, Funny

    I absolutely did not see this Cumming.

  3. That should be good by albn · · Score: 4, Informative

    People like this should be put away for a long time for ruining one's credit rating and making their lives a living hell. Restitution will be good too, but how much can you make in the can? not much.

    Good riddance.

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    1. Re:That should be good by Thunderstruck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While I agree, having been a victim of identity theft (only once that I know of) Perhaps part of the problem is credit ratings themselves.

      There are other ways for a lender or landlord to learn whether a person is a risk. Most people have a reputation in their community that one need only ask to learn. Most credible people can provide credible references. The current addiction to putting everyone's number in a New Jersey database does more harm than good, especially when folks like Cummings come along.

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  4. Curious... by MarkRose · · Score: 5, Funny

    What I want to know is, when they caught the guy, did they have a positive ID?

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  5. Why? by grahamsz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why does a help desk operator have access to my credit report?

    Surely you can design a system where very few humans ever have contact with all of a persons information.

    I've dealt with on UK bank where when you wanted to perform certain transactions using telephone banking you were passed to a second tier operator and instructed not to give them your name.

    Presumably the system was set up such that no one person had enough confidential information on a single customer.

    The US really needs far stricter controls on SSNs - it's insane how often i need my ssn for day to day transactions.

    1. Re:Why? by DoctorMO · · Score: 3, Informative

      The UK has Data Protection laws now which mean that if employees have access to personal information they have to have a damn good reason, and if they don't the company is liable.

    2. Re:Why? by me+at+werk · · Score: 3, Informative

      Social Security numbers were originally just a Tax ID, people wouldn't get them until age 16 or so (this was changed, according to wikipedia, in the 1980s when SSN's were required to list "dependants). It's sad, it was (as i'm told, I did not experience this) stated that it would "never be used as a national id" or something to that effect, and it has.

      At least it's not to the same extent (i think) that it is in the UK. But that's not to say it won't be.

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    3. Re:Why? by insert+3+letters · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You're worried about a help desk worker? That grumpy guy behind the counter at the video store (going off of Hollywood video) has your address, phone, birthdate, names of family members (and b-dates), and SSN (and a simple print screen will print all that data off). This is at the lowest level. Higher up, you get credit card numbers cause we store those. Oh and you *can't* really delete an account, when we "delete" an account, we simply set it to do not rent to. All the data's there. And I'm not quite sure about this, but I think all the customer data for a store (many tens of thousands?) is kept on a local server, probably with minimal ecyption (judging by the age of the system and a couple other factors). Not to mention that that vindictive sales man could just check out a movie on your account and lose it. I'm so glad I quit that job and am getting a "real" job. I think I'll stick with cash for movie transactions though.

  6. Oh good call, your Honor. by mikeophile · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cummings, who is still free on bail, must report to prison on 9 March.

    It's not like the guy could change his identity or anything.

  7. It would be better for consumers if by museumpeace · · Score: 4, Interesting

    this s**tbag's employer, Teledata Communications, was heavily fined...they must have had hundreds of complaints over the course of the thievery and never turned enough scrutiny on their own orgnaization to see the problem until way too late. I will be looking at which credit card issuers, banks, etc use Teledata Communications services and seeing if I can avoid doing business there.

    but who says their competition is any safer?

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  8. It never ceases to amaze me... by bennomatic · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ...that these folks just don't learn. People who do this get caught because they keep going and going and going. Once you have a few million, you don't need to scam anyone any more! Just invest and retire! You will eventually mess up, and you WILL get caught!!

    Of course, this sort of idiotic greed is what got them to start doing these bad things in the first place. I can't imagine trying to steal identities no matter how much the profit, myself.

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    1. Re:It never ceases to amaze me... by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Insightful

      i'm sure someone retired with that money.

      just not this little drone in the circles...

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    2. Re:It never ceases to amaze me... by Da+Fokka · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You never hear of the ones that do learn and do stop in time.

  9. NOT the biggest ID thief ever... by Anita+Coney · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... but the biggest ID theif ever caught.

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  10. Fake ID by MrRuslan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here in NYC anyone can obtain a fake ID for under $50 bucks and it looks legit enogh to pass...And it's legal too because it has a disclamer in he back. I used to use one to get into clubs but i also used it (with my real info on it) to goto the bank because i always loose my wallet and i just get one for $30 bucks and i never had a problem with it...People who deal with money should be educated on whats real and whats not.

  11. What!?!?!? by mr_resident · · Score: 5, Funny

    HE's not Philip Cummings!

    I AM!!!

  12. Depends on the industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When I worked for a broker, I had access to client SSNs, clearing house info for EFT, the whole nine yards. We were monitored, but that only went so far. Our tech support guys had all the same info.

    Oh, we passed all the industry regulation background searches, etc. In fact, I saw a number of people kicked out of my training class when the searches uncovered bounced checks, forgeries, and other financial crimes. But that's the thing - many people who do that stuff do keep trying to get jobs in the industry. Which makes me think there's a high likelihood that people prone to doing that in general try to take those jobs. I know it's a bit presumptuous, like assuming all pedophiles without records will try to get jobs with kids simply in order to molest them - I'm sure less than 100% of them molest, but as an aggregate group they're unsafe - and it scares me to know how open this access is, especially when I know what they get paid and the educational requirements involved for the job.

  13. Re:No way by lubricated · · Score: 4, Interesting

    > I live in Dickinson, North Dakota.

    population 16,000 in the middle of a state that's in the middle of nowhere.

    And thus you know everything there is to know about meeting people in New York City.

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  14. Re:No way by dirkdidit · · Score: 4, Funny
    the middle of a state that's in the middle of nowhere

    Not to nitpick or anything, but Dickinson is slightly west and south of the middle of nowhere. The middle of nowhere is actually in Rugby, ND, which is the geographic center of North America.
  15. Re:Cummings, who is still free on bail, must repor by Hatta · · Score: 4, Funny

    And how would you get there? Hidden in the back of a car or in someone's luggage? You won't get through customs. Your passport is definitely revoked in such case.

    Yeah, if only he had some way of getting a new identity.

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