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N-Gage No Longer Relevant

Spong.com (via Kotaku) has a story discussing a dire portent for the N-Gage. The Entertainment & Leisure Software Publishers Association sales charts will no longer reflect N-Gage sales. From the article: "The N-Gage chart, though still produced, is of little interest to anyone. Sales of the machine and its software have failed to make any impact on the market at all. We still keep sales charted and are available on monthly, quarterly and annual reports, though we have dropped the platform from the ELSPA chart following a lack of interest."

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  1. Premature post-mortem? by Lindsay+Lohan · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Sales of the machine and its software have failed to make any impact on the market at all.
    I'd heard that a new version of the N-Gage hardware will be introduced before Nov. 2005 - possibly as early as September - although the platform will remain backwards compatible throughout. Although they will admit to slow sales, sounds like Nokia is not quite ready to judge the N-Gage as a success or failure.

    I remember the same fatal pronouncements for Windows CE... four years ago.

    Then again, N-Gage really could be a dying platform.
    1. Re:Premature post-mortem? by mgs1000 · · Score: 4, Informative
      Actually, Nokia just eliminated a bunch of the people working on N-Gage stuff.

      They are about to pull the plug on the whole damn thing.

    2. Re:Premature post-mortem? by OverlordQ · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well Netcraft hasn't confirmed it, so I'd be wary of this story.

      *grin*

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  2. The truth hurts I guess... by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    ...but "No Longer" suggests they once were.

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  3. Correction by checkitout · · Score: 4, Funny

    Shouldn't the title read: N-Gage, Never Relevant

    1. Re:Correction by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 3, Funny

      And oddly, it's "stuff that matters"

  4. This is all because... by aznxk3vi17 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...they took out sidetalking.

    I mean, COME ON! That was the best feature!

  5. To Sum: by holzp · · Score: 4, Funny

    The N-Gage is not EN-Gaging.

  6. Well duh. by AltGrendel · · Score: 4, Insightful
    What they probably should have done is license something that was alreay in the market, like a GBA or something.

    I couldn't see how a new platform like this would hit anything other than a small, unsustainable, niche market.

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    1. Re:Well duh. by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Informative

      they sort of did it. they 'licensed' their own platform, series 60 - and built the system over it. n-gage is a strong machine, not because of games(which have just gotten to good level of playability, actually - even reporters who have always hated ngage before have had to admit that), but because of all the series60 software available for it.

      from irc to web browsers to aim to rss readers to python support(can you script your gba with python? DIDN'T THINK SO!).

      does nintendo offer a sdk for download for free? no.
      does sony offer sdk for psp for normal people? no.

      nokia does, symbian may be a bitch of a platform to get into but it's open for everyone to get into, to port emulators, to code games for. you want to write a rss reader in python with c++ components? fine, do it, you're free to do just that.

      plus, some of the best games available for it are not 'n-gage' games, they're series60 games.

      (..and I doubt it being very expensive for them to produce, as hardware wise it is almost identical to the 3650, with the difference that n-gage has more ram)

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    2. Re:Well duh. by mausmalone · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's all well and good, and theoretically you can do a lot of stuff with a series60 phone and the SDK, but in practice the actual hardware simply isn't strong enough to do what Nokia wanted it to do. If they wanted games to work well on the thing, all they had to do was make a few of them 2D. Also, the vertical screen was a total piece of stupidity (although, a portable DoDonPachi would have been cool). There were other serious design flaws that we all know, too. The grandparent is kinda right that by licensing another platform and then adding the telecom features to it, they may have enjoyed success. The parent is right that the s60 is a great platform. The problem, though, is that the s60 isn't designed for gaming, and that the other portable platforms aren't designed for anything but gaming. For a project this ambitious, Nokia should have (a) designed an entirely new platform that would better suit its needs, (b) do some market research (the numerous obvious major flaws of the first NGage shows that their research and testing was inadequate), (c) waited until the technology matured enough to support their goals.

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  7. Netcraft confirms! by krbvroc1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Netcraft confirms it is not relevant. Meanwhile, on Slashdot, its irrelevancy is featured on the front page.

    Irrelevant News for News. Stuff that doesn't matter anymore.

  8. Penny Arcade said it best... by MLopat · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think this comic from Penny Arcade pretty much sums up how much we all care about N-Gage

  9. N-Gage? by Fr05t · · Score: 4, Funny

    What's an N-Gage?

  10. Oh my god!?! by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 4, Funny

    What about the Atari Lynx, please tell me they didn't drop it from the charts!

  11. An interesting story by The_Whole_Fn_Show · · Score: 5, Funny

    My brother was telling me about a friend of his that works for GameStop (in the Cleveland, OH area).

    Apparently, they were the leading store of N-Gages sold, with 1. It caught some guy's eye as he was walking out of the store, so he decided he'd buy it on a whim. That guy returned it a week later.

    So, with one returned unit, that store still had the most N-Gage sales in the Cleveland area.

  12. Why N-Gage sucks by Mori+Chu · · Score: 3, Insightful
    It tries to be many things and doesn't excel at any of them. People want mobile devices that do things well foremost, and do many things second.

    Let this be a lesson to the "convergence"-crazy companies who are putting blurry cameras, pitiful games, tiny amounts of MP3 storage, and other features into cell phones that don't even make calls well. Give me a GameBoy Advance and a solid cell phone in separate casing any day.

  13. N-Gage No Longer Relevant by Refrag · · Score: 4, Funny

    Doesn't the title falsely indicate that the N-Gage was at one time relevant?

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  14. Re:Surprisingly, they sell! by stonecypher · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nokia has been lying about their sales the whole time. As of Feb '04 they claimed to have shipped 600,000 units, even though after its first two weeks on the market they claimed 400,000 units, and claimed two weeks later to have doubled that. It seems a year later, a quarter of that sold inventory evaporated.

    Of course, you should check the date on that article at The Register - it's Feb 24, '04. In fact, just three weeks earlier they had lied and claimed to pass the million unit mark.

    Nobody in the industry was fooled. Unfortunately I can't link you to the speculation which I really want to give you, but the rumor is that Nokia never actually shipped half a million units, and that less than five percent of them have been sold, whereas an unheard of ninety percent have been returned by retailers. To give you a sense of scale, that famously bad Atari 2600 E.T. game which many people claim as the worst game in history not only outshipped and outsold the N-Gage in its entirety, but also had a lower return rate.

    Listen harder. There are more hits for the phrase "n-gage sucks" than there were confirmed walmart sales of the device the world over in two years of carrying the monstrosity.

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