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WiMax Delayed for more Testing
sebFlyte writes "The much talked about potential wireless broadband technology, WiMax, has been hit by more delays that may reduce its chances of commercial success and hence widespread application... so those of you wanted to play Halo 2 multiplayer while driving down the freeway may be in for a bit of a wait." A spokesman for Aperto blames the delays on being "optimistically aggressive" on shipping dates.
I'd much rather be playing Grand Theft Auto 6 while driving down the freeeway.
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So long as nobody is stupid enough to decide that because they have a WiMax-enabled chipset, they can discard all 802.11(b|g) support...WiMax (or something very similar) will show up when it's good and ready, catch on, and be the Next Big Thing. For a while.
This flies in the face of science.
"2005 was thought to be the year of the WiMax launch. Unfortunately, it will now mostly be the year of pre-WiMax," said Vincent Poulbere, a senior consultant at Ovum.
So its official! 2005 is the year of the pre-WiMax. What a great way to say vaporware!
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I will personally decapitate anyone I see on the freeway playing Halo 2 while driving. Cell phones are bad enough.
I thought the new WinMX was delayed. Ah, forget it...
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Unless of course you had a HUD screen that turns all the traffic around you into Covenant vehicles and incorporates them into the game!
THAT would ROCK!
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They have really fought themselves into a corner with this one. WiMax is, by definition, the maximum amount of Wi that there can be.
So what will they call the next standard?
Then i'll start taking my chances in farmers markets
At least until old people get hooked on halo
"... so those of you wanted to play Halo 2 multiplayer while driving down the freeway may be in for a bit of a wait."
Yeah, you'll have to wait for your sanity to return! When you're driving a car you're already playing quite a challenging game in which you only have one life (not Half life 2) and one life alone and there is no save or restore.
...to WiMax Forever.
WiMAX is a standards-based wireless technology that provides high-throughput broadband connections over long distances. WiMAX can be used for a number of applications, including "last mile" broadband connections, hotspot and cellular backhaul, and high-speed enterprise connectivity for businesses.
An implementation of the IEEE 802.16 standard, WiMAX provides metropolitan area network connectivity at speeds of up to 75 Mb/sec. WiMAX systems can be used to transmit signal as far as 30 miles. However, on the average a WiMAX base-station installation will likely cover between three to five miles.
Anything that delays the deployment of wifi is bad in my books. In the UK we're seeing it proliferate - in transport hubs, trains, cafes. I'd really like to start seeing it used on a city-wide project here.
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More of the usual hysteria surrounding WiMAX. Wavesat (.com) claims general availability of their WiMAX chips.
You can't have WiMax without a plan for certification. WiMax, like Wi-Fi, is a sticker that says, "this device has been tested and passed." A recent plugfest to check out interoperability and other characteristics for pre-WiMax gear was canceled, hence part of the delay.
Basically, the 802.16 standards on which WiMax will be a strong subset are done, and it's about figuring out what needs to be in final shipping silicon. No two WiMax devices may be identical, either. There will be profiles so that different features may be enabled in different devices.
And don't expect WiMax mobile to be any time soon, unlike the description that leads into this story -- that's 2006 or 2007, more likely. The first WiMax flavor is fixed point-to-multipoint.
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If you wanted to start your own VoIP telco, you could:
* install a big 802.11b mesh network,
* provision it with a few WiMAX backhauls (two or three),
* sell 802.11b VoIP phones,
* profit
WiMAX is pretty neat, but I'm not sure yet how it differs from other high-bandwidth wireless solutions. It's standard-based and works in the free spectrum, but doesn't 802.16a? Or is 802.16d just the newest version of 802.16a?
I can't bear this! I have to wait before I'll be able to play Halo 2 while shuffling the iPod playlist and watching some great movie on DVD and, of course, having a critical business conversation while driving down the freeway. So unfair!
if things are far enough along to get excited and maybe buy something.
http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/16/index.html
"optimistically aggressive" -- You've just gotta love the marketing spin people put on: Well.. it doesnt quite work yet right.
I suppose thats why the engineers arnt allowed to speak to the press. Of course, then nothing would ever be quite done enough for release, so I guess it's a balance, eh ?
I must say that I am slightly annoyed by this. My company has been developing WiFi based high speed solutions (for rural areas) with equipment that you can add WiMax modules to when they come along. We could have received a much cheaper solution if we had focused mainly on WiFi solutions without worrying about integration. I know all about the long run, but we need to build revenue with what we have now just to get the equipment.
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"Aperto", in Portuguese, means "strait" - A position of difficulty, perplexity, distress, or need.
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What they are trying to do in avoid what happened with Bluetooth. Interoperability between products has been a huge problem with Bluetooth since its conception. Mainly the test cases designed by the SIG did not really come close to maintaining a high degree of interoperability between different makes and models. It didn't help that the tests that were there were only CAT B tests (self declared) and did not require you to test against another manufacturer's product.
What was good about 802.11 b/g, was that for the most part it worked. People want to plug it in and have it work. We all know this. There are so many wireless techs out there, that in order for one to really stand out, it MUST actually work.
Everyone else is doing it.
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There's probably a significant Doppler issue with using WiMax on the move.
I have been using wireless broadband from iBurst http://www.iburst.com.au/ for the last few months in Australia. Works great on the train or while driving down the freeway. Only drawback is that the coverage is a bit patchy at the moment.
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So we like Microsoft products today?
Before WiMax comes out, will there be any faster WiFi speeds released, other than the channel sharing ones out now?
Wake up.
Cingular's UMTS network is already live in several cities at 1500k mand mobile; Verizons EVDO network goes live Feb 1 in several cities also ar 1500k and mobile. What does WIMAX bring to the table for consumers thats so great given its not mobile and its pricepoint is still quite high?
Anyway, you make a strong case against circumcision. :-)
But then again, it can take a very long time for reason to supercede superstition and religious dogmas, as we all know.
Alas, I would say.
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You'll be waiting even longer if you want to use WiMax for a connection in a moving car. The WiMax (802.16) standard is for portable broaband access, connections that you can take with you but don't work so well while moving (ref).
802.16e is looking at adding mobility to WiMax but what you'll really need for access while mobile is 802.20 - (MBWA) - Mobile Broadband Wireless Access. This standard is specifically for broadband access while moving.
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What does WIMAX bring to the table for consumers thats so great given its not mobile and its pricepoint is still quite high?
WiMax should bring a lower cost to the existing pre-WiMax gear. You're comparing the cost of the pre-WiMax stuff. The reason why the standard is so important is that it allows for multiple manufactures all producing the same equipment, increased competition hopefully = lower prices. It also means that they can invest more money in production equipment and processes knowing that the technology should be around for a while.
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WiMax has much more capacity than 3G. For example, ISPs will use WiMax to offer T1 replacement service (1.5Mbps symmetric guaranteed bandwidth); can the cellular carriers do that?
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Yes they can, but with that technology it chews through their spectrum and they can only have a limited number of subscribers per base station.
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I say whatever. If they delay it, it will be a better product, and if it is faster, no one will care that it is delayed if it is a better product. Compare broken and confusing dvd(+-)r market when it started out. People didn't want to adopt because there were/are competing standards. If they want success, they'll make everything work together, and not have any compatibility problems, and keep it to ONE standard. If it takes delays then it takes delays, but there is a current technology standin until they do it, so don't fucking rush it.
WIMAX is no different in the BW sense than 3G with HSDPA. It is a shared bandwidth.
But since HSDPA will have 3.6 Mbps from Q4-05/Q1-06 in real life and 14 Mbps soon to follow it is hard to see an excellent bussiness case for WIMAX.
One technology is flaky PC tech stuff, the other sturdy telecom grade.
One technology is flaky PC tech stuff, the other sturdy telecom grade.
Of course it is at the moment, because it's in development and the standard hasn't even been finished yet. The pre-WiMax stuff has been flaky to a degree(flaky PC tech stuff - whatever you're refering to there) but that is to be expected and I don't doubt that this will improve.
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With "Flaky PC tech stuff" I mean that there is a vast difference in how well it will work.
As an example I take the absurd difficulties in making a video connection from PC to PC.
The amount of drivers, programs (incompatible) etc you have to get right is absurd.
With 3G I make a video call from Singapore to my sister in Sweden without any hassle.
You buy a phone and it will just work.
Compared again to my strugles to maintain a WIFI connection in my apartment (not working very well at all). Signal strength, driver quality etc makes it impossible to guarantee connection. All of a sudden the connection is down and a restart is required to get it working again.
That is PC quality as compared to telecom quality.
The same will be the case with WIMAX.
So I would definitely prefer HSDPA over WIMAX any day, because it will work.
I'm trying to work out whether you are fucking stupid, or just a troll?
First off, a video to video connection is a stupid comparison. It has little to do with the type of internet connection you have. What the fuck has WiMax got to do with your inability to setup video conferencing? And you do realise how little bandwidth you need to send a 64x64 video signal at 3fps on your 3G mobile, it's nothing like the speeds that should be available with WiMax.
WiFi is nothing like WiMax except that they are both forms of wireless communication, as you can't even get a WiFi router to work in an appartment i'm gessing that you're going to have difficulty understanding that WiMax is typically for basestation to subscriber internet access. Think similar to a mobile phone connection in the case of 802.16e.
WiMax setups will be run by telecommunications companies, at least in the case of licensed spectrum. How shared RF ranges will work remains to be seen.
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Media reports indicate that certification for WiMAX products may be delayed for six months, but a spokesperson for the WiMAX Forum said the reports are inaccurate.
Another prime mover of the technology, Intel Corp., also said it was not aware of any such postponements.
Some media outlets had reported there would be a delay in WiMAX rollouts due to a lack of readiness of the customer premise equipment, as well as the lab and team to do the certification testing.
WiMAX Forum spokeswoman Kendra Petrone described the report as inaccurate.
Source: RCR Wireless News