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Patients get Solar Implants in Eyes

Ben Sullivan writes "As reported at Science Blog, ophthalmologists have implanted Artificial Silicon Retina microchips in the eyes of five patients to treat vision loss caused by retinitis pigmentosa. The implant is a 2mm chip that contains about 5,000 microscopic solar cells that convert light into electrical impulses. Already some patients have experienced improvements such as not bumping into objects around the house, and being able to read the time on a clock."

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  1. Quality by sanosuke001 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How do the doctors know what kinds of electrical signals the brain needs in order to see what they;re supposed to see?

    Also, if they do figure out how to make this like our vision, don't solar cells "see" in higher wavelengths than our eyes do? Wouldn't people not see blue and purple but instead get UV and the like?

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    1. Re:Quality by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They don't have to know anything like that. All they need to do is to provide voltage that is within parameters of the cell resistance (just enough but not to burn the cells.) The brain takes care of mapping electrical signals to the visual part of cortex. I suppose this will only produce shadows of gray and not color. To produce color they will have to do more than a single electrical signal, but for shadows of one color (gray?) voltage difference will be enough.

      I wonder what is the life of the solar cells? Will they have to be replaced time to time?

    2. Re:Quality by madprogrammer · · Score: 2, Funny

      > but instead get UV and the like?

      If so, then sign us up. You will be assimilated.

    3. Re:Quality by Suidae · · Score: 2, Informative

      Discover magazine had an article about the first successful experimental implant of this type a couple years ago. The sensor was a narrow strip, tall and skinny. It provided the user with a dim, low-resolution strip of vision from one eye. This was enough to allow the user to much more effectively navigate with a cane.

    4. Re:Quality by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is basically the the cochlear implant for the eye.

      The brain is dynamic enough to remap the signals into something coherent.

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    5. Re:Quality by roman_mir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think to produce color, there will be a need to setup color filters (just like color pixels you have on your computer monitor,) and do something with outputs from different color filters, maybe use different electrical frequencies for different colors or apply different voltages to cells that are very close to simulate color additions. The filters will only let specific light frequencies through, and will produce different voltage depending on the intensity of its own wavelength, so maybe multiples of the wavelengths can be used as electrical frequencies to represent specific colors?

    6. Re:Quality by bcmm · · Score: 2, Funny

      They read the RFCs for the human nervous sytem's protocols, of course!

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    7. Re:Quality by humina · · Score: 2, Interesting
      In order to stimulate the millions of rods and cones individually in order to produce color, the implants would need to be significantly smaller. Currently these implants stimulate large groups of rods and cones. It is currently impossible to individually select the rods and cones for stimulus with this approach. Stanford has a research project to use chemical stimulus to stimulate individual rods and cones.

      The problem with using solar cells is in order to make enough power, you want the solar cell to be bigger in order to absorb the most light. You also want the solar cells to be small in order to increase the resolution. The research here is increasing efficiency like crazy.

      The problem with Stanford's research is releasing and recapturing the chemicals needed for stimulus. And the chemical approach is behind the electrical approach. The electrical approach already has had success with patients.

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    8. Re:Quality by tim1724 · · Score: 2, Funny
      They read the RFCs for the human nervous sytem's protocols, of course!

      Yeah, and then find out the hard way that 90% of humans don't implement the protocols according to the spec.

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  2. Article Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ophthalmologists at Rush University Medical Center implanted Artificial Silicon Retina (ASR) microchips in the eyes of five patients to treat vision loss caused by retinitis pigmentosa (RP). The implant is a silicon microchip 2mm in diameter and one-thousandth of an inch thick, less than the thickness of a human hair. Four patients had surgery Tuesday, January 25. The fifth patient is scheduled for a later date.

    Rush principal investigator Dr. John Pollack performed the surgeries with Dr. Kirk Packo, Dr. Pauline Merrill, Dr. Mathew MacCumber, and Dr. Jack Cohen. All are members of Illinois Retina Associates, S.C., a private practice group and are on the Rush faculty. Patients leave the hospital the same day and will be followed for two years as part of the study, and then indefinitely.

    The patients were recruited from a pool of about 5,000 applicants.

    The implants are designed for people with retinal diseases such as macular degeneration and retinitis pigmentosa, which cause blindness and vision impairment in about 10 million Americans. More than one million of these people are legally blind.

    "As is commonly seen in with retinitis pigmentosa, these patients all have severe narrowing of their visual fields down to a very small central circle, and all patients in the study are legally blind," says Pollack.

    The Artificial Silicon RetinaTM (ASR) was invented by Dr. Alan Chow, pediatric ophthalmologist and Rush faculty member, who developed the chip and founded Optobionics, with his brother Vincent, vice president of engineering. Optobionics is located in Naperville, Illinois.

    "This is an expansion of the study of the first 10 patients completed in 2002," says study investigator Dr. Kirk Packo, who oversees the three participating sites. The sites are Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, Baltimore, Emory University School of Medicine/Atlanta VA Medical Center and Rush.

    Pollack says the current protocol has been modified to reduce the likelihood of inadvertant scientific bias. "We operated on the right eye of each of the initial 10 patients. For the next 20 patients we will randomly select which eye will receive the ASR chip. In addition, post-operative vision testers will be masked as to which eye received the ASR chip implant. The current study is being performed at these study centers in order to independently validate previous studies performed by Optobionics."

    The first 10 patients all reported some degree of improvement in visual function, says Pollack. "Improvement in visual function was variable and included the ability to read letters, improvement in color vision, and expansion of their visual field. Some patients gained new ability to recognize facial features -- something that they were unable to do before ASR chip implantation. Some patients have experienced improvement in activities of daily living such as improved ambulation-not bumping into objects around the house, and reading the time on a clock."

    Still in Phase II clinical trials, Pollack cautions it is still too early to determine what percentage of patients might experience improvement in vision and what resolution capability these patients might eventually have. "Although we hope that all patients receiving the chip will experience some improvement in visual function, we can't say for sure how these patients will respond to this new treatment since this is still an experimental trial. If this study and future studies show safety and efficacy of the chip and it's approved by the FDA, it could be as soon as three to five years that this technology would be available to others."

    Surgical Information
    The ASR chip contains approximately 5,000 microscopic solar cells that convert light into electrical impulses. The purpose of the chip is to replace damaged photoreceptors, the "light-sensing" cells of the eye, which normally convert light into electrical signals within the retina. Loss of photoreceptor cells occurs in persons with retinitis pigmentosa (RP) and other retinal diseases.

  3. Orson Scott Card by 1010011010 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sounds like we're on the road to the artificial eye one of OSC's characters had in the Ender's Game series. One of its cool features was that you could pull pictures and video off of it, as well as see through it. It was an in-skull camera.

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    1. Re:Orson Scott Card by jd142 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Heh, G'Kar was able to remove his eyeball and use it as a spy cam to watch what others were doing.

  4. Improvements by Harald74 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Night vision, anyone?

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    1. Re:Improvements by phyruxus · · Score: 3, Funny
      It wouldn't help me see, but I'd kind of like to have some red led's in mine, terminator style.

      That's assuming of course that I can't get frikken lasers (I have a feeling an in-eye laser wouldn't be so great on the cornea)

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    2. Re:Improvements by Space_Soldier · · Score: 2, Funny

      Soon, we will all be able to switch between vision types like the Predator. Love it mate, love it!

    3. Re:Improvements by Vinnie_333 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Cool, just like Night Man! ... O, I mean ... not so cool ... I mean ...I've never seen the show ... just commercials ....

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    4. Re:Improvements by Haydn+Fenton · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well maybe not "we" as a whole, but "we" as in one of the human race, already can.. There is a Russian girl whom posses some kind of x-ray type vision. She claims she can swap between normal vision, or the x-ray type vision at will.
      Yes, you don't have to believe it if you don't want, for all those sceptics, I'll agree it seems a pretty outrageous claim, but despite efforts of scientists, they have been unable to disprove her claims. She has successfully seen into people's bodies and correct one claim that a pateint had cancer, when in fact it was just a cyst. She's going to study medical.

      Anyway, back to the article.. this seems like a very very very useful piece of technology, surely it could be ported to other things than eyes, eventually enabling a vast amount of disfunctions to be rectified. And I don't see why it couldn't be modified, as the parent says, to be able to have nightvision, infra-red vision, etc.

    5. Re:Improvements by Mafiew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well considering that the website refers to an article in Russia's Pravda, which has stories called "Boriska-boy from Mars" , "Humans Learn to Fly" , "Soviet Army Fought UFOs" etc. I wouldn't lend too much credence to this.

      Or who knows maybe years of exposure to radiation from atomic bomb testing has given Russians superpowers.

    6. Re:Improvements by digitalchinky · · Score: 5, Informative

      That russian girl was flown to the US for further testing - this was on nat-geo or discovery not long ago. This is all from memory so I may be wrong...

      She had to specify the problems of 7 or 9 patients (can't remember exactly) - she did score quite high, but not high enough for it to be any more believable than educated guess work. Threw a bit of a tantrum when she found out she would not be able to view the bodies of the patients before making her decision.

      She took far longer to make a diagnosis under test conditions than the the scratchy home video's from Russia.

      She had been hanging around hospitals back home, so this is not at all suprising. All the evidence points toward her 'not' having any magical powers.

    7. Re:Improvements by AllUsernamesAreGone · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It was 7 patients and she correctly diagnosed 4 of them. Each patient had a different condition and they were things like removed appendix, lower aesophagus or lung section, metal staples left in the chest after surgery, an artificial hip and a metal plate in the skull while the 7th had nothing wrong.

      It was also hardly a fair test - she had been seperated from her mother and interpreter, the CSICOP AND CSMMH testers had set the minimum match threshold higher than the standard probability of 1 in 20 in pscyhology tests and there were no independent observers. They also conceled the fact that she achieved higher than 50 to 1 odds to reach the correct matches by shouting about he missing the 5 matches they required he to get to pass their test.

    8. Re:Improvements by Illserve · · Score: 2, Funny

      How is it that things like this get modded to 4?

    9. Re:Improvements by Poseidon88 · · Score: 2, Informative
      The required hit rate was 5 out of 7 because she was told ahead of time what to look for. She just had to match each problem with the proper patient. If the claims about her powers are true (that she can see things at a cellular level, and her diagnosis accuracy is 100%), then she should have had no problem with this.

      But, instead, she mis-diagnosed some of the more obvious problems, including the patient who had a missing section of skull covered by a metal plate. The fact that she got 4 out of 7 right can be laid down to luck and a little knowledge of medicine. The fact that she actually broke several of the agreed-upon rules during the study (talking to her teenage friend and an unknown person on the other end of a cell phone) doesn't help her case any.

  5. Silicon implants make the world a better place. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Especially when installed in pairs.

  6. Stevie Wonder... by cswiii · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Isn't this what Stevie Wonder has, w/r/t the pigmentosa? Furthermore, I seem to remember them talking about the possibility a couple of years ago that he would be a candidate for something similar, with a microchip.

    I'd imagine that his condition has degenerated far too much along to be aided by this, but if I recall correctly, they nonetheless said he might be a candidate for something similar. I don't think they ended up using him, however.

    1. Re:Stevie Wonder... by Black+Perl · · Score: 2, Informative

      IF Stevie has RP, then he would be a candidate. RP is a loss of photoreceptors. This procedure bypasses photoreceptors, so it doesn't matter how long you've had the disease.

      I doubt this is true. There's also a part of the brain that "shuts off" (sorry don't know the medical term). A friend of mine had misaligned eyes when I met him. When he was little he could see out of either one. Of course, using both at the same time resulted in double vision, so he had to use only one at a time. Eventually, he favored one and his brain shut the other one off. He migrated as a young adult to the USA with his family and had surgery to straighten his eyes. He will not regain vision in his "bad" eye, even though there's nothing physically wrong with it. The doctors told him that if he had surgery much earlier, he'd still have vision in both eyes.

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  7. in time.. by hielenlikker · · Score: 4, Interesting

    i wonder what will be first: - a human of whom all parts are subsituted by technology - a robot which will have a real human soul

    1. Re:in time.. by EvilNight · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Pshaw. Five seconds of thought about the problem provides you with a proper 21st century definition of a soul.

      If your brain is hardware, your soul is the software.

      Next question.

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  8. Bionics by ArsonSmith · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When will we get the ability to enhance current senses and strength. This kind of tech is always the most fun.

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  9. I want the implant that converts... by quokkapox · · Score: 3, Funny

    TCP/IP into neurostimulation. Preferably allowing two-way communication. Then I can finally assimilate Google.

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    1. Re:I want the implant that converts... by operagost · · Score: 2, Funny
      "...Create a standard alphanumeric console positioned for the left hand. Now, an iconic display console positioned for the right hand. Tie both consoles into the Enterprise main computer core utilizing a neural scan interface."

      "There is no such device on file."

      [looking mildly annoyed] "No problem--here's how you BUILD it..."

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  10. not exactly "solar" by xtermin8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I guess it sounds more exciting to call them "solar cells," but obviously they're light sensors. If they were originally developed for use in solar electricity production, that should be in article, not the headline. "Matters for Nerds. Stuff that News!"

    1. Re:not exactly "solar" by coolcold · · Score: 2, Informative

      solar cells are more or less like light sensors apart from the sense that solar cells don't need power to operate while light sensors does (for amplification).

      Correct me if I am wrong

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    2. Re:not exactly "solar" by TFGeditor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They must be photovoltaic cells, which convert light into electricity, and thus need no power supply. Imagine an inter-retinal power supply meltdown!

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  11. Solar? Implants... by L3on · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article really doesn't explain why the chips are reffered to as "solar" cell implants. Are these people only going to be able to see light from the sun (I doubt it). I guess they just lacked a better word for the cells, any other suggestions as to why this is?

  12. Two for one... by Vague+but+True · · Score: 2, Funny
    Depends on how you look at it. I think that when we achieve one, we will also have achieved the other.

    So my answer is...yes

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  13. Incrediably important by UlfGabe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This development is very very^H^H^H^H^H important. I have been reading the material on this stuff and it looks as if it is possible to give people devoid of sight, some sight back.

    THE REAL treasure here is knowing the brain can adapt. Think about it, they were deprived of sight, and then their brain was able to REORGANIZE itself to understand totally FOREIGN signals and use them as input.

    It demonstrates how our wetware is more adaptable than any hardware.

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    1. Re:Incrediably important by PMuse · · Score: 3, Funny

      THE REAL treasure here is knowing the brain can adapt. ... It demonstrates how our wetware is more adaptable than any hardware.

      Yeah, just wait until we're able to reflash the firmware directly.

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  14. Re:But wouldn't by operagost · · Score: 2, Funny

    The prop department was all out of hair clips.

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  15. Resolution by tsa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The ASR chip contains approximately 5,000 microscopic solar cells that convert light into electrical impulses.

    5000 cells, that's an area of 70x70 cells. Is that enough to see with or am I missing something?

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    1. Re:Resolution by wulfhound · · Score: 2, Insightful

      70x70 is enough vision to be useful - more than enough to see doorways, furniture and suchlike, and not far off what you'd need to read large print (street signs and suchlike).

    2. Re:Resolution by TomorrowPlusX · · Score: 2, Informative

      Also, keep in mind that our natural eyes are actually pretty shitty cameras ( at least, from the standpoint of what we expect from a CCD ). It turns out our brains are interpolating an awful lot from the spotty signals coming in from our eyes.

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  16. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I work on RP. It CAN and DOES cause blindness. Its more of a group of diseases as opposed to one monolithic disease. From emedicine:

    52% had 20/40 or better vision in at least one eye, 25% had 20/200 or worse vision, and 0.5% had no light perception

    So, in conclusion, don't be a cock. Seriously, tell those people they aren't blind.

  17. I'm excited! by plalonde2 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    As someone who has been losing central vision from a pesky bleeding blood vessel under my retina, this news really excites me.

    On friday I'm going in for essentially the same surgery, only instead of inserting a chip, they try to deal with the bad blood vessel. Then, after a week of lying face down, and a month of no flying (which kills my easy work commute and turns it into a 5 hour ordeal), I get to find out how much damage was done to my retinal pigments by the blood that has been pooling there for half a year.

    Damage that *used* to be un-repairable. With this technology now deployed there's a good chance it will be routine for people like me in 10-15 years.

    And given that the likelyhood of diagnosis in the second (currently good) eye is about 1 in 50 per year from now on, the stats give me 15-25 years before I start worrying about getting an artificial retina.

    Hooray for bionics!

  18. Re:But by jocks · · Score: 5, Informative

    My wife has early onset RP and it does far more than affect night vision and peripheral vision - it ultimately causes all vision to be lost, from the outside in. In the past few months my wifes central vision in her right eye has started to fail dramatically.

    Normally RP is diagnosed later on in life so the full effects of the disease are not normally experienced, however many suffer from childhood and it is those people that will benefit from this type of technology.

    In tandem with this research there has also been progress made in retinal transplants using stem cell growth mediums to allow the cells to function normally.

    Its nice to see some hope, particularly for my wife who has been told that she would be blind by the time she was ten. That was 23 years ago.

  19. Re:excellent by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Any word yet on those muscular implants?

    I guess so...

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  20. Great News, Little to do With Solar by changos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is great news. I've been following these procedures for quite some time. Retinitis Pigmentosa runs in our family.

    One thing to point out is that this disease is a degeneration of the retina. It's called pigmentosa due to the fact that as the retinal cells die, small spots appear on the retina. The degenerations starts on the outside, and moves inward, creating a tunnel-like feeling for the patient.

    My uncle had surgery in Cuba (We live in Guatemala, so let's just skip the whole Cuba-American posts) where they operated his retina, and treated it with oxygen and Ozone therapies. This type of operation is not intended to cure it, but to stop it. This was about 5 years ago, and his retinitis pigmentosa has not spread, but it's still a bit early to know for sure.

    If you have more questions there is tons of information on the web

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  21. It's advancements like these... by RootsLINUX · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...that make me wish I studied life science instead of computer engineering. I'd love to say I contributed to a great advancement like this, and the biomedical field really interests me. In computer architecture if I were to say "I invented a new branch predictor that's 100% accurate and only consumes 20% of the normal die area", about 19/20 people wouldn't know what the hell I was talking about. Are we forever to be unsung heroes? >_>

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  22. The brain learns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When surgeons re-attach a severed limb they don't worry about getting all the neurons connected correctly. They connect them randomly, and the brain learns the new mapping.

    Physically therapy takes care of the learning, but it is a side effect, the brain is good at learning new mappings. The body generally has many more problems making everything work, in ways that are not related to incorrectly attached neurons.

    1. Re:The brain learns by FirienFirien · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In case anyone isn't sure whether the eyes are too complex for the brain to learn, remember that they did experiments with putting inverting glasses on people, so they saw everything upside down.

      I think it took about half a week for people's brains to respond 'correctly' to a given situation (e.g. not bumping into things).

      When the goggles were removed, the test subjects saw things upside down. The brain had adjusted sufficiently to seeing upside down that reverting to the standard way up confused it.

      There was a comment from one of the users that he did occasionally still get confused, which implies that the wiring in these photodetectors may occasionally confuse the user slightly as the brain tries to remember which signal protocol it's using, but the main point is the speed of learning seen in the experiment.

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  23. MPAA owns your eyes by tepples · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One of [the] cool features [of a science-fictional eye implant that this product resembles] was that you could pull pictures and video off of it, as well as see through it. It was an in-skull camera.

    Watch people with implants be banned from entering movie theaters.

    1. Re:MPAA owns your eyes by FHMyles · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Congratulations on the successful implantation of your new miraculous vision-restoring eye implants! Please note, however, that because of the DMCA Revision of 2009, you are now required to wear a heavy blindfold in any place where you are at risk of viewing copyrighted materials, such as public streets, shopping venues, movie theatres, your workplace and your home."

    2. Re:MPAA owns your eyes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
      Watch people with implants be banned from entering movie theaters.

      Nahh, the anti-recording laws have nothing on the Americans with Disabilities Act. For example, you can ban pets from your establishment...but not seeing-eye dogs / helper dogs. Any sort of restrictions of that kind don't apply to something someone needs to compensate for a disability. (Which is as it should be, IMHO.)

  24. Keep doing that and you'll go blind.... by jthayden · · Score: 2

    Finally hope for serial masturbators everywhere.

  25. Re:All we need now by chillmost · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is solar powered brain for idiot people

    Care to volunteer?

  26. Re:Dune? by Dorothy+86 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who needs eyes? I navigate by looking into the twists and turns of the future! -KH

  27. Subretinal Non-Powered Approach Has Limits by pz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IAAVN (I Am A Visual Neuroscientist) working on artificial vision. I have seen presentations on this approach, and unlike many of the other efforts in this field, Dr. Chow's claims appear astonishingly good.

    The basic idea is beautiful and elegant: you put an array of tiny photodiodes behind the retina, exactly where the photoreceptor cells (rods and cones) are. Shining light on each of these nearly-cell-sized photodiodes creates a localized voltage which should stimulate a small handful of cells, generating a signal that will mimic the original biologically transduced input to the retina. The photodiodes nicely supplant the dying photosensitive cells. It sounds perfect.

    I was very impressed with their presentation at a one-day symposium on artificial vision I attended at USC a few years ago, until one of the audience members pointed out that they had done some calculations, and it seemed that one would need incredibly high light levels to generate enough current to stimulate the local cells. Dr. Chow admitted that, even being optimistic about the conversion efficiency of photodiodes (which here need to be optimized for biocompatibility more than efficiency), the physics involved dictates that you would need light bright enough to cause damage to even the non-photosensitive tissue to get the device to work. Dr. Chow then backpedaled to say that even if the device cannot restore lost vision, it can perhaps supplant any remaining healty cells to improve vision in low-sighted patients. That question-anwer cycle was the first point in his presentation where he backed off from the claim of restoring full vision to blind patients.

    Dr. Chow's results were done in a private laboratory, part of a company set up to profit from his advances. He must answer to his shareholders, and his results are not open to the level of scruitiny that standard scientific claims are. He was reluctant to answer questions at this session. Therefore, as a scientist I am bound by the lack of openness to view his claims with a grain of salt.

    Other efforts to create artificial vision are still having trouble with just a handful of points of light. While I believe that the subretinal approach has a good chance of eventually proving fruitful, using a silicon-based device that lacks an external power source just cannot produce normal vision. This is why the article concentrates on the improvements in existing low vision, rather than discussing restoration of lost vision.

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  28. Coaxial cameras by rarose · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've always thought that the best analogy for our eyes are two coaxial cameras. A very narrow beam, high resolution camera slightly off the centerline, surrounded by a wide-angle low resolution camera.

    Rods, which predominate the wide-angle camera system, are like hyped B&W film... great night sensitivity, but grainy. Cones, which dominate the inner narrow-angle camera system give color vision, but require much higher light levels to operate.

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  29. Re:But by ak3ldama · · Score: 2, Informative

    I would like to chip in on this conversation, as I have RP, as does my father, two of my sisters, and my grandmother (mother of my dad). This disease does indeed have early symptoms, primarily of impaired night vision. Since this has been in our family, we have known about it early and therefore we are very interested as such things as the electron possibility. But these tests have so far had limited results. There is also another solution which helps a little, and that is daily taking Vitamin A Palmitate, at a dosage level of 15,000 IU. Taking this fairly high dosage, the affects of RP have been known to have 20% less impact per year.

    These solutions do not truly fix the problem, but hopefully over time a solution will be found. Retinitis Pigmentosa has serious effects, it is quite scary seeing your family members go blind, and knowing you will too.

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