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Round 2 of Apple's Lost '1984' Series

webertk421 writes "The second set of lost 1984 videos has been released. This set again needs more mirrors (I still can't download the torrent files). According to the descriptions, the clips include Steve Jobs reciting some Dylan, showing the well known 1984 commercial, and 'Manuals,' another commercial that almost aired instead."

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  1. Dylan by Electroly · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damnit. Saw Dylan, thought of the programming language. I need to get out more.

    1. Re:Dylan by quigonn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, me too, as "Dylan" in the Apple context is way more likely the language than anything else, since they invented it.

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    2. Re:Dylan by qray · · Score: 2, Funny

      Same here. Reminds of the time I was driving down the highway and saw a sign "DSL $1.99" And couldn't believe someone was selling Internet access that low. Hopping to see a phone # I then realized the sign was at a gas station. My next thought was how odd that a gas station would branch into the internet access business. Then it finally hit, they were selling diesel, not "DSL".

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    3. Re:Dylan by stand · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I wondered: Bob Dylan or Dylan Thomas? Do I need to get out more?

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    4. Re:Dylan by g00z · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "When you say Dylan, he thinks your talking about Dylan Thomas...whoever he was. The man ain't got no culture"

      Oh Paul Simon.. remember when you were cool? You know -- before you started letting Chevy Chase hang out in your music videos while you played a keytar?

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  2. Torrent mirrors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
  3. NeXT Cube Introduction? by green+pizza · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone know of a video of Steve Jobs' original NeXT Cube introduction from 1988? I read about it in the book, "Steve Jobs and the NeXT Big Thing" and it sounded like it was just as impressive as the original Macintosh introduction.

    Another cool video would be the Pixar Imaging Computer, which, naturally, was also cube shaped!

    1. Re:NeXT Cube Introduction? by kalleh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not sure if you mean this one, but here is a long video of Stevie doing a demo of NeXTSTEP 3.0:

      http://www.openstep.se/jobs/

  4. PIXAR Imaging Computer by green+pizza · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For those who are curious, here's a photo of the beast:
    http://www.3dnews.ru/documents/8124/pic-16.jpg

    And another photo with a Sun E450 and Sun SPARCstation 5 for reference:
    http://www.nenv.k.u-tokyo.ac.jp/bis/kaoru/kizai01/ images/pixar.jpg

    1. Re:PIXAR Imaging Computer by RevAaron · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just so folks know- that isn't a NeXT cube. It's kind of the shape of one, and hell, maybe it even ran NeXTSTEP, but that's not a NeXT cube. Here is a good photo of a NeXT cube and the 17" megapixel monitor (black white!).

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  5. Re:Somewhat OT by green+pizza · · Score: 2, Informative

    System 6.0.8 (the last version before 7):
    http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_ Area/ Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Maci ntosh/System/Older_System/System_6.0.x/

    System 7.5.3:
    http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Suppo rt_Area/ Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Maci ntosh/System/Older_System/System_7.5_Version_7.5.3 /

  6. Re:Somewhat OT by green+pizza · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mac SE's use 720K drives? At least I'm pretty sure they originally did.
    The Mac 512Ke, Mac Plus, Mac SE, and Mac II originally shipped with 800 KB 3.5" floppy drives. These are similar to 720 KB 3.5" drives, but used an 800 KB format.

    There was a later version of the Mac SE that did ship out of the factory with a 1.44 MB floppy drive.

  7. Re:Why is this such a big deal? by michaeldot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hard to tell, but are you being ironic, or moronic?

    Dell Dimensions and HP LaserJets didn't put a dent in the universe.

    This product did.

    If nothing else, it started Microsoft scrambling to put something very similar on everyone's desktop... 1 billion computer users and growing.

    No Mac...?

    (A)bort (R)etry (F)ail

  8. Not entirely lost.. by Large+Green+Mallard · · Score: 3, Funny

    I remember seeing this video during high school computing, probably in around 1994 or 1995. I had my powerbook (145!) with me that day, and recorded the bit of steve saying "IBM wants it all and it's aiming its guns at its last rival, Apple". I found the disks with it on a few days ago, but alas, I am still an Apple geek and now I don't have a floppy drive :)

  9. Re:Why is this such a big deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    > Where are the videos of Michael Dell demonstrating
    > the latest Dimension Desktop?

    > Where are the videos of Carly Fiorina showing off
    > the latest HP LaserJet?

    > Better yet, where are the videos of Xerox
    > demonstrating the $36,000 Alto?

    The difference is Apple actually makes some real innovations in their products and they take some pride in their product. Steve Jobs isn't just a guy in a suit reading off a list of PowerPoint bullet items.

    Did you know that when the Macintosh came out that the second generation Xerox Star still didn't support overlapping windows and still lacked any sort of uniform style. That machine cost something like 6x as much as a Macintosh and even without its external monitor its tower case was still twice as large as a Macintosh. If you read the folklore.org website it says the Macintosh had fewer chips on its motherboard than the IBM PC had on its black and white graphics card alone.

  10. Re:Why is this such a big deal? by green+pizza · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thats a bit rich coming from someone who is worshipping a COMMERCIAL ADVERTISEMENT for a FOR-PROFIT company. I mean come on, folks, Apple doesn't give a rats ass except that you buy their products.
    Good point! We should all sell our BMWs and buy used Kias. Then we should sell our PowerBooks and ThinkPads and buy used Avertecs.

    Oh, but wait, Kia and Avertec are in business to make money too! Ack!

    Quick, who has the detailed instructions for building an EasyBake Chip Fab??

  11. Piece of memorabilia by LiquidMind · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Certificate for gift mac

    anyone still have one of these? i'm sure *some* slashdot vet will have one stached away somewhere. I'm sure they'd be worth quite a bit to a collector.

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  12. More Apple Ads over the years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    For fear of slashdotting someone's webpage (over 100MB of QuickTimes there,) and to curb some mindless clicking, I present the unlinked URL. www.uriah.com/apple-qt/index.html

    Someone, mirror it quick.

  13. Re:1984? 1684? by delirium+of+disorder · · Score: 2, Informative

    I know its a joke
    but....................

    In 1684 there were well over 235 people in America. Various accepted estimates of the pre-contact (15'th century and earlier) Native population of the continental U.S. and Canada range from 1.8 to over 12 million. Over the next four centuries, their numbers were reduced to about 237,000 as Natives were almost wiped out. In 1684, however, the natives were far from gone and there were already quite substantial european colonial settlements. People forget that european people lived in America for a longer period of time as colonials then as citizens of the USA.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_History_of_t he_United_States

    David E. Stannard, "American Holocaust: Columbus and the Conquest of the New World," Oxford University Press, (1992)

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  14. Mirrors ... by Ninja+Programmer · · Score: 2, Informative
    ... This set again needs more mirrors (I still can't download the torrent files). ...
    What the hell are you talking about? How can people be so damn slow as to not realize how the Coral cache works?

    Just create a raw typical URL for the thing, then write some HTML with the suffix: ".nyud.net:8090" on the end, and like magic you get free, virtually unlimited, and extremely reliable of bandwidth.

    Read about the coral cache here.
    1. Re:Mirrors ... by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Informative

      If all slashdot links were coralised, then I might as well not come to slash.
      A firewall outside my control restricts access to basically everything bar port 80.
      If the cache system had been done on port 80, then I could view it, but as it is, its useless to me.

      I doubt I am the only one.
      Also, since I am not behind this firewall all the time, I have clicked other coral links, but tbh, only a very few have ever actually worked well, the rest just hang and lock and have the same errors as the original.
      The only amusing thing is seeing Coral cache the error messages :)

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  15. Now *this* is a great story by bigirondawg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let's see, according to the submitter of the story, the page is already suffering from heavy traffic usage... yeah, let's put that on the front page of slashdot! That'll help. :-)

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  16. Hottie by mikeb39 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Steve Jobs certainly had a flair for the dramatic. Bit of a cutie too. Is that bad?

  17. Yes, and there are two kinds of companies... by Kjella · · Score: 2

    The only place this might be untrue is in regards to the amount of money they can make you spend on their product.

    1. Those that try to mislead, scam, force and lock you in to their product so you have no choice but to give them your money, or you'll regret that you did.

    2. Those that try to provide high-quality, powerful and flexible products at reasonable prices so that people come back for resale after resale.

    Of course, the cynical claim that #1 are the monopolies and #2 are those that aspire to be monopolies. I still have some of that naivism left.

    Kjella

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  18. resuscitate your SE by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny
  19. Re:These require QuickTime right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/standalone /

    You've never been forced to download iTunes to get QuickTime...

  20. Re:Why is this such a big deal? by JabberWokky · · Score: 4, Insightful
    No, however the release of the Mac is a milestone in the industry. So was the Altair IV, whose advertisements would get the same reception.

    In a gun community, ads for the Winchester repeating rifle would garner similar interest (as it was a milestone product), or the first ads for the Model T in a car community.

    Ford, Winchester and Apple are all for-profit companies, but they advanced the art of their fields greatly in a single leap by releasing products that redefined their industries. Of course it's interesting.

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  21. Re:Somewhat OT by YorgleLlama · · Score: 2, Informative

    6.x or 7.0/7.1 should be the top end you'd want to put on a 68000 mac. If you need old-version stuff, go 6.0.8. if you need system 7 stuff, go 7.1 if you can find it. (7.0 was released for free, 7.1 contained some non-free software, and thus is not on their site for download. (512, plus, se, portable, powerbook 100, etc) 7.5.x should only be used on 68020+ macs. It'll work on 68000 macs, but it'll be wicked slow. (SE/30, the entire II line, etc.) And typically, if you want 7.5.x you should also grab the 7.5.5 updater for 7.5.3. 7.5.5 is more stable and feature filled than 7.5.3 (just my experience, anyway...)

  22. Triumph of the Nerds by ubrayj02 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The coming out moment for the Macintosh can be seen in a really great documetary by Robert Cringley called "Triumph of the Nerds" (1995).

    I just Netflixed it, ten years after seeing it for the first time, and the movie has only gained in its relevance.

    In many ways Jobs' work with the Macintosh led to his being fired from Apple. This really was a landmark product, but it just wasn't priced well to compete with cheap IBM clones.

  23. Re:Why is this such a big deal? by tomcode · · Score: 2, Funny

    EasyBake Chip Fab cooks your lithographs with a 40 watt bulb, and it comes with little doping packets, but the secret ingredient is love.

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  24. Re:1984? by multiplexo · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Interesting now that the PC clone world is filled with all manner of diversity and the Mac is only offered in very particular market driven configurations (i.e. lowest end mini, mid range all in one and high end tower).

    The "diversity" in the PC clone world is skin deep, if even that. Let's look at the "diversity". OK, you do have two different companies making processors, AMD and Intel and they may now have compatible 64 bit architectures. You basically have two companies that make graphics chipsets, ATI and nVidia. You have a few companies making mobo chipsets but it basically boils down to Via, nVidia or Intel. You do have lots of shiny, colorful, craptacular cases and four or five companies making hard drives but for the most important component of the computer you basically have two main families of operating systems, Windoze versions and Linux distros (I don't mean to slight you BSD users, it's a great OS, but it's a drop in the bucket of the PC OS market).

    So what does this "diversity" buy you? Well it buys you a lot of friggin headaches, not as many as it used to, but still a lot more than any advantages that it brings you. Windows does things that Linux doesn't do (it's still a better desktop) and Linux does things that Windows doesn't (it's still a better server and a lot more secure) but the diversity within Linux distros and within Windows versions isn't that great. Having the ability to run Slackware on an AMD64 processor on an Asus motherboard with a Via chipset and an ATI graphics card is not really all that different from having the ability to run Debian on an Intel Pentium 4 on an Abit motherboard with an nForce chipset and an nVidia video card. Is it more "diverse"? Yes it is. Does it really matter? No it doesn't.

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  25. Re:Works for me by Feztaa · · Score: 2

    I get a 404.

    LALALALALAA I hate slashdot's post delay timer dealies.... It's a fucking 404 ok? Do you want me to write an essay about it or what?