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Round 2 of Apple's Lost '1984' Series
webertk421 writes "The second set of lost 1984 videos has been released. This set again needs more mirrors (I still can't download the torrent files). According to the descriptions, the clips include Steve Jobs reciting some Dylan, showing the well known 1984 commercial, and 'Manuals,' another commercial that almost aired instead."
Damnit. Saw Dylan, thought of the programming language. I need to get out more.
Apples may be Insanely Great!
torrent mirrors
Does anyone know of a video of Steve Jobs' original NeXT Cube introduction from 1988? I read about it in the book, "Steve Jobs and the NeXT Big Thing" and it sounded like it was just as impressive as the original Macintosh introduction.
Another cool video would be the Pixar Imaging Computer, which, naturally, was also cube shaped!
I've got to say, Slashdot and torrents go together like peas and carrots. By the time I finished clicking on the 4th torrent link and closed the window, I'd already finished downloading the first file.
Recursive: Adj. See Recursive.
For those who are curious, here's a photo of the beast:
/ images/pixar.jpg
http://www.3dnews.ru/documents/8124/pic-16.jpg
And another photo with a Sun E450 and Sun SPARCstation 5 for reference:
http://www.nenv.k.u-tokyo.ac.jp/bis/kaoru/kizai01
System 6.0.8 (the last version before 7):_ Area/ Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Maci ntosh/System/Older_System/System_6.0.x/
o rt_Area/ Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Maci ntosh/System/Older_System/System_7.5_Version_7.5.3 /
http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support
System 7.5.3:
http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Supp
Again, torrent mirrors
Mac SE's use 720K drives? At least I'm pretty sure they originally did. Anyway if thats the case, unless u have a 720k drive layin around that u can copy the OS onto from teh interweb I think u'll be out of luck. Some ppl have modded their SE's for 1.44 or added external drives but thats just going overboard.
Nuclear war would really set back cable. - Ted Turner
Where are the videos of Michael Dell demonstrating the latest Dimension Desktop?
Where are the videos of Carly Fiorina showing off the latest HP LaserJet?
Better yet, where are the videos of Xerox demonstrating the $36,000 Alto?
You can boot up a knoppix disk and format a floppy for 720k. Actually, the 'boot knoppix' part isn't needed, but it looked good while typing.
Mac SE's use 720K drives? At least I'm pretty sure they originally did.
The Mac 512Ke, Mac Plus, Mac SE, and Mac II originally shipped with 800 KB 3.5" floppy drives. These are similar to 720 KB 3.5" drives, but used an 800 KB format.
There was a later version of the Mac SE that did ship out of the factory with a 1.44 MB floppy drive.
Nope...
Mac 128K, 512K = 400K 3.5" drive
Mac Plus, SE = 800K 3.5" drive
Mac SE/30, II, etc = 1.4MB 3.5 drive
HFS too, so get you FAT ass back in the kitchen and make me some pie. (Apologies to Cartman)
I remember seeing this video during high school computing, probably in around 1994 or 1995. I had my powerbook (145!) with me that day, and recorded the bit of steve saying "IBM wants it all and it's aiming its guns at its last rival, Apple". I found the disks with it on a few days ago, but alas, I am still an Apple geek and now I don't have a floppy drive :)
Just tested... all four torrents work.
From the 4th video, about 55 seconds in, Jobs says:
"... of the 235 people in America, only a fraction know how to use a computer."
Shit, how long have you been waiting for your trash to be picked up man?
Haven't you noticed, we all use Macs today. Look at your Dell again, do you see those folder icons? Or how about the arrow cursor thats controlled by that mouse gizmo. The modern personal computer and its GUI was dreamed up at Stanford and MIT, prototyped at Xerox, refined and miniturized at Apple, and mass produced by Microsoft and Compaq and Dell.
...which still holds true to this day.
Usually this early in on a new article all the posts would suggest you throw your Mac back in the trashcan and boot up XP.
;) , just pointing out I haven't heard any cheers for Windows on the Slashdot community not any really arrogant Windows fans... That usually comes from the other crowd heh.
(And why is it all the potty mouths just happen to be Windows users? Is there something about that OS which encourages profanity?)
Good luck getting the Mac SE going, and if not, a fishtank mod awaits!
I am not sure what site YOU have been reading but the "bah what are you thinking? use another OS!" lines here generally point to OSX or Linux. And they usually come from over zealous fans of either OS. Not saying thats not the right thing to do
Matt
You have 1 Moderator Point! Use it or lose it! Is that a threat? -vapid
Apple only offers up to 7.5.3 for free (though there is a 7.5.5 updater available too.) Above that, only updaters are available.
6.0.8 is highly reccomended for your the SE, compact, rock solid and hyper fast. Head over to System 6 Heaven for your System 6 needs. Available in over two dozen languages!
Okay, I wasn't very clear. I was just making the point that a lot of the EARLY posts on new Slashdot articles, BEFORE they get (rightfully) modded to oblivion or removed are often very rude ones. You know, along the lines that all Mac users are homosexuals...
Didn't I warn you guys already?
Rock that crushes, Paper & Scissors that don't matter.
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anyone still have one of these? i'm sure *some* slashdot vet will have one stached away somewhere. I'm sure they'd be worth quite a bit to a collector.
This sig contains repetition and redundancy.
For fear of slashdotting someone's webpage (over 100MB of QuickTimes there,) and to curb some mindless clicking, I present the unlinked URL. www.uriah.com/apple-qt/index.html
Someone, mirror it quick.
I know its a joke
t he_United_States
but....................
In 1684 there were well over 235 people in America. Various accepted estimates of the pre-contact (15'th century and earlier) Native population of the continental U.S. and Canada range from 1.8 to over 12 million. Over the next four centuries, their numbers were reduced to about 237,000 as Natives were almost wiped out. In 1684, however, the natives were far from gone and there were already quite substantial european colonial settlements. People forget that european people lived in America for a longer period of time as colonials then as citizens of the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_History_of_
David E. Stannard, "American Holocaust: Columbus and the Conquest of the New World," Oxford University Press, (1992)
------ Take away the right to say fuck and you take away the right to say fuck the government.
Just create a raw typical URL for the thing, then write some HTML with the suffix: ".nyud.net:8090" on the end, and like magic you get free, virtually unlimited, and extremely reliable of bandwidth.
Read about the coral cache here.
Let's see, according to the submitter of the story, the page is already suffering from heavy traffic usage... yeah, let's put that on the front page of slashdot! That'll help. :-)
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Steve Jobs certainly had a flair for the dramatic. Bit of a cutie too. Is that bad?
Is there any way to download QuickTime WITHOUT installing iTunes?
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The only place this might be untrue is in regards to the amount of money they can make you spend on their product.
1. Those that try to mislead, scam, force and lock you in to their product so you have no choice but to give them your money, or you'll regret that you did.
2. Those that try to provide high-quality, powerful and flexible products at reasonable prices so that people come back for resale after resale.
Of course, the cynical claim that #1 are the monopolies and #2 are those that aspire to be monopolies. I still have some of that naivism left.
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I believe that Lowendmac.com has some links and otherwise this thread will probably be spammed by links. Failing that leave me a message I think I have some os 6 disks in the corner with my SE
-if at first you don't succeed, stay the heck away from paragliding.
I have two, a SE and a SE/30.
I put a 1.44M floppy into the SE, but it only sees it as an 800K floppy. There is System 6 installed, but the bare minimum on the hard drive. No MS-DOS floppy translator/reader, no Stuffit, etc.
I have a SE/30 with the 1.44M floppy, but same situation, bare minimum Mac System 6.
I downloaded the System 7 disk images, but I have no way to create them from an XP Pro PC. Also I did find a Mac formatter, so it made Mac Formatted disks. When I downloaded Stuffit for MacOS, and copied it to a Mac formatted floppy, the Mac complained that the resource fork was missing. So the Stuffit self extracting archive cannot run. I have no idea how to add a resource fork to make it work. Most stuff I download for the MacOS is in that SIT format.
Both Macs have a BNC Ethernet card, but no driver is installed for them, so I cannot hook them up to my network.
I got them on eBay a long time ago. Some day I hope to get them to work.
Remember, Slashdot does not have a -1 disagree moderation, and no, troll, flamebait, and overrated are not substitutes.
Dude, Mac users are totally gay, except not all of them are into having sex with people of the same gender. =)
It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
Here ya go
LOL!!! .."
I didn't realize it... dang man, this is gonna be a hard coming out of the closet.. How am I gonna break this to my girfriend.. "sorry honey but some windows wankers says I'm gay, and I'm taking the Mac with me
read this pork-for-brains:
if mac user's are all homosexuals then how come we breed like rabbits?
Is there a bit torrent client that does not automatically start seeding once you have downloaded the file? (my bandwidth is capped.. )
I am the maverick of Slashdot
Can't the slashcode hackers code a filter that adds a coralized URL with a nice red C icon right next to the original URL?
Or the other way round, where the link is coralized and the original URL is preserved in a small o Icon link?
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Dyslectics of the world, untie!
Its pritty common to refer to the USA as America....but the term "Colonial America" is also popular, indicating that there was an America before the USA. The actual root of the word is probably cartographer Amerigo Vespucci.
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http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_021.htm
That dates "America" to the early 16'th century.
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6.x or 7.0/7.1 should be the top end you'd want to put on a 68000 mac. If you need old-version stuff, go 6.0.8. if you need system 7 stuff, go 7.1 if you can find it. (7.0 was released for free, 7.1 contained some non-free software, and thus is not on their site for download. (512, plus, se, portable, powerbook 100, etc) 7.5.x should only be used on 68020+ macs. It'll work on 68000 macs, but it'll be wicked slow. (SE/30, the entire II line, etc.) And typically, if you want 7.5.x you should also grab the 7.5.5 updater for 7.5.3. 7.5.5 is more stable and feature filled than 7.5.3 (just my experience, anyway...)
SE's were in fact released with an updated rom with "SuperDrive" support... although in this case, "SuperDrive" was a 1.4mb drive. This model was called the "SE SuperDrive" or the "SE FDHD". I have one of each in my garage right now.
The mac i believe also spins the disk at 5 diffrent speeds, whereas the PC does not. however, the mac can support PC formatted disks, so you can format a pc floppy, drop it into a mac, copy the files over and use them....
"Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies" by Jared Diamond tries to explain why the Europeans conquered the American Indians rather than the reverse.
The coming out moment for the Macintosh can be seen in a really great documetary by Robert Cringley called "Triumph of the Nerds" (1995).
I just Netflixed it, ten years after seeing it for the first time, and the movie has only gained in its relevance.
In many ways Jobs' work with the Macintosh led to his being fired from Apple. This really was a landmark product, but it just wasn't priced well to compete with cheap IBM clones.
Are you talking about the Pixar box or a NexT?
FWIG, the PIC ran NeWS, and I have no real understanding of how that worked.
On the NeXT, the entire purpose of the right mouse button was to provide the menus that normally would exist at the top of the screen on a Mac.
Menubar at the top of the screen all the time means you don't need to click a button on the mouse to get it to appear - either at the default top left corner of the screen, or you could drag the menu to any location on the screen (preferably grabbing the top-leftmost pixel on the context menu and moving the menu as far off the bottom right side as possible. The menus are always there, but they only appear when you right click.
Troll, indeed.
The Slashcode submission system should seed the Coral cache just before posting to the main page.
I'm afraid the fellow who can't reach port 8090 needs to get off the Intarweb and onto the Internet. Running on port 80 needs dedicated machines.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
No year is going to make that statement be accurate or make any sense -- a total population of 235 and some are computer literate?
6 is an upside down 9 and I thought it looked good.
Actually it was comparing IBM to the totalitarian regime in the book 1984. I always though it was interesting that the Mac which was bringing elightenment was so drab with it's beige color and gray scale screen.
Interesting now that the PC clone world is filled with all manner of diversity and the Mac is only offered in very particular market driven configurations (i.e. lowest end mini, mid range all in one and high end tower).
Sometimes my arms bend back.
I don't think you can format 720K HFS disks, though.. DOS, sure..
You should be able to dd 'em though.
Myself and 178 others would sure love to download all these bastards in one punch.
You mean like this group? :)
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The "diversity" in the PC clone world is skin deep, if even that. Let's look at the "diversity". OK, you do have two different companies making processors, AMD and Intel and they may now have compatible 64 bit architectures. You basically have two companies that make graphics chipsets, ATI and nVidia. You have a few companies making mobo chipsets but it basically boils down to Via, nVidia or Intel. You do have lots of shiny, colorful, craptacular cases and four or five companies making hard drives but for the most important component of the computer you basically have two main families of operating systems, Windoze versions and Linux distros (I don't mean to slight you BSD users, it's a great OS, but it's a drop in the bucket of the PC OS market).
So what does this "diversity" buy you? Well it buys you a lot of friggin headaches, not as many as it used to, but still a lot more than any advantages that it brings you. Windows does things that Linux doesn't do (it's still a better desktop) and Linux does things that Windows doesn't (it's still a better server and a lot more secure) but the diversity within Linux distros and within Windows versions isn't that great. Having the ability to run Slackware on an AMD64 processor on an Asus motherboard with a Via chipset and an ATI graphics card is not really all that different from having the ability to run Debian on an Intel Pentium 4 on an Abit motherboard with an nForce chipset and an nVidia video card. Is it more "diverse"? Yes it is. Does it really matter? No it doesn't.
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At one point in the 4th clip about a quarter of the way through, Jobs says,
"of the two-hundred thirty-five people in America, only a fraction know how to use a computer."
He meant to say a higher number, so it's funny 'cause it's not true:)
I tried to download the full zip via torrent all day. No seed. Just now I tried downloading the big zip from two of the mirrors, but neither match the MD5 on the torrent, so I can't seed.
Somebody dropped the ball on the torrent links for sure. No seed. FWIW the full download links on the right side of the page seem to work.
Right because choice is a bad thing. How about this? Since there are all manner of components at all manner of price points you can purchase or build a machine to suit your particular needs and pocketbook. And you have multiple vendors to choose from. So it doesn't matter that I can build the machine I want for the price I want?
So competition such as AMD vs Intel doesn't matter? It isn't a good thing? Diversity of hardware and diversity of software you can run on it is bad?
Also do you realize how the Macintosh has capitalized on the commodity PC component market? You would not have your current Macs at that cost if it wasn't for standard PC parts. Let's see:
PCI bus
AGP slot
Standard PC style video (onboard Radeons or AGP cards) with VGA / DVI out
ATA and SATA drives
DIMM memory
USB
Do you remember the Mac's of the '80s and '90s?
NuBus
NuBus video card with Mac video out
Often times special Apple SIMMs
SCSI drives
ADB
One of the first things Jobs did when he came back on board was to recreate the Mac with industry standard components. This saved a ton of money on parts and on R&D.
The next thing he did was cut models so you have a few choices. You don't want an overpowered low end Mac or else professionals will slap a 20 inch monitor on it and use it for their work. So what do you do?
Create an all in one integrated Mac with built in monitor that doesn't jeopardize your high end market.
Create a high end Mac that is fast and expandable for pros to use.
And now recently, create an el cheapo Mac with very limited expansion and the previous generation processor. (And for all the people saying you can do pro level work on a Mac Mini - you can, but you would stupid to save your pennies there when the G5 will increase workflow efficiency.)
On the OS side - Jobs threw out the old Mac OS (good riddance, but it was a difficult and expensive transition for the professional market) and then leveraged the open source community to pack OSX with features. Once again reducing R&D costs. No need to recreate what was already there.
All very smart marketing decisions by Apple. However, I still can't get a Mac to match my $1500 P4 without spending at least $2500. Why? Because Apple has total price control over it's hardware and will only sell you a computer whose specifications fit into Apple's market stratification. So while Apple may benefit from using commodity PC parts - you - the purchaser only get the choices that Jobs thinks you should have. Call it a benevolent dictatorship but unless his choices are inline with your needs it can be a bummer. How about a G5 iMac without the built in screen? I would pay for that, but I can't buy it.
And component wise - even OS wise that modern Mac is closer in both hardware and software than any
Macintosh computer in history. You may as well say you like Aqua, PowerPC and the industrial design. Those are the key differentiating factors.
And by the way your slam on BSD is pretty silly. Certainly in the server arena BSD is very well deployed (ISPs especially). I use both BSD and Linux on the server side.
You also left out a few operating systems: MS DOS and FreeDOS (I run FreeDOS for compatibility in Virtual PC with old games), Solaris x86 and of course the greatest of them all SCO UNIX.
Sometimes my arms bend back.
He is a faggot yet he has a wife?
Is a simple insult beyond you?
That was classic intercourse!
I do, and fondly. Let's look at the list you posted.
NuBus
NuBus was technically superior to any PC bus, including MCA. NuBus was true plug and play, put a card in, reboot your system and install driver software, no bullshit, no fucking around. NuBus was a 32 bit bus and you could have up to 16 cards on the bus, much better than ISA or current PCI implementations without various bridging schemes. MCA had similar specs to NuBus but the stupid configuation hoops that IBM made you jump through (booting off of your special system floppy when you added or removed cards and God help you if you lost the floppy or if it got corrupted) was a huge pain in the ass.
NuBus video card with Mac video out
Macintosh video was technically superior to any PC video standard of the late 1980 and early 1990s. Remember what you had back then? 640x480 VGA, 640x350 EGA, IBM's weird ass PGA standard, digital 640x480, that never went anywhere, and CGA. And multiple monitor support? It wasn't even possible on PCs at the time but was trivial on the Mac. I had all kinds of cool video hardware where I worked. Macs used for DTP with 1600x1200 black and white displays, Macs used for simulations with 1024x768 displays (which was high tech at the time) and some Macs that had both.
Often times special Apple SIMMs
There were just as many PC manufacturers back then who were doing similar shit. I remember when we had to upgrade several NEC 386s that we bought. The special NEC form factor memory that was required was so expensive that we ended up junking the systems and upgrading to 486s. Most Mac SIMMs were eight bit SIMMS, PC SIMMs were 8 bit with parity. I used to use PC SIMMs in the Macs I supported all the time without any issue.
SCSI drives
Technically superior to anything the PC had, unless you went with PC SCSI and wanted to try to get the Adaptec drivers to load into high memory, always a fun process. The Mac was the first computer outside of UNIX workstations that you could connect a CD-ROM to.
ADB
Which was technically superior to the PS/2 bus. How many times did you have to replace a motherboard because someone fried it by unplugging their PS/2 mouse while the system was powered up. I did a couple of times. The Mac was transparent, plug in a mouse, a keyboard, a trackball, a bar code scanner, hang them off of ADB and hot-swap devices.
Was Mac stuff incompatible with the PC in the late 80s and early 90s? Yes, was it better, oh fuck yes it was, it was so much better that it wasn't even worth discussing. I had to support about 150 Macs and 150 PCs at the time. PC support was a total bitch, Mac support was easy, almost trivial. Macs were light years ahead of the PC on networking. Plug an ethernet card into a Mac, drag MacTCP into your System Folder and you were in business. Compare this to trying to get a PC to work with PC-NFS or Novell.
And when technology moved on Apple was smart enough to move with it. Which company was the first one to adopt USB across their product line? It was Apple. Hell, it's 2004 and that POS $1,500 P4 that you're talking about still has a fucking PS/2 mouse and keyboard port on it. Which company got rid of the floppy drive first? It was Apple. Your P4 probably still has a floppy controller on it. In the name of Satan and Aleister Crowley why? It's 2005, floppies are dead tech. PCI is better than NuBus. Apple saw the writing on the wall and discontinued NuBus in favor of a better standard. Apple also uses IDE drives, but they support firewire across their entire product line as a replacement for SCSI (another first). Apple didn't just use different technology back then for the sheer perverse joy of being different, they did it because the stuff they used was better than the noisome shit that the PC world used.
As far as jobs leverating open source contributions to OS/X yes he did do that. But the thing that makes OS/X so
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A bit testy are we? My point was that Apple DITCHED all of the proprietary tech which as you note was better. Rather than make a better bus than PCI, a better USB etc. They used commodity parts which only exist because of the PC market. They threw out all of the lovely Apple made it better hardware and noone noticed. They took out SCSI - why? Because IDE is better? How about because IDE is cheaper. So be happy for the PC commodity market and the open source movement - without either of them you couldn't have the Mac you have today at the price point it sells for.
I'm glad you have found memories of the Macs of the '80s and '90s. I won't argue that the PC hardware was better, and the PC OSes sucked. But so did MacOS.
Did you love Multifinder? How about having to manually adjust memory settings for each application? How about no preemptive multitasking? How about one app crashes and the whole system eats it? Memory fragmentation?
My favorite part of all. Troubleshooting MacOS. Oooh look a cannonball! Ooooh type 3 error!
How about extensions? Did you enjoy working with them? Did you enjoy how one would stomp all over the address space of another? Did you like manually swapping extensions out of the system folder (pre extensions manager) to isolate the conflict?
Font conflicts anybody?
Yeah it was a dream OS to work on. Sorry, no thanks I had an Amiga back then. I got to run MacOS on it too for work purposes. In fact it was the cheapest way to run Mac software considering the crazy cost of '80s Macs. Oh yeah and the OS kicked ass. Preemptive multitasking, dynamice memory allocation, GUI and a nice shell.
BTW it isn't and never was my intent to slam the Mac. I'm just trying to say, hey look you benefitted from the diversity in the PC market. Is that so hard to understand?
I do have to ask one question - why is it bad to plug a keyboard into a PS/2 port? BTW my "POS PC" has 6 USB 2.0 (there is a header for more, but that's plenty) and 2 Firewire as well as the PS/2 ports. You know what? It even has an RS232 port! What a piece of shit! There are plenty of legacy free PCs available if those ports offend someone.
Does your Mac have an internal 8 way memory card reader? Can you hold 3 hard drives, 2 optical drives, the useless floppy, memory card reader internally? Oh wait, yeah sorry its better to daisy chain them all over the place with firewire. Just like in the old Mac days when it was better to have a SCSI chain of 6 devices sprawling all over your desk.
Relax. I don't really understand why you Mac diehards get so bent out of shape when anyone suggests that there is any benefit to using anything besides a Mac. I can understand brand loyalty but blind fanatacism is silly.
I use Macs, I use Windows, I use FreeBSD and I use a couple of Linux distros. In the past I have also used everything from Apple ][s to Amigas.
I have yet to find the perfect OS. Some are better than others. Some work better for certain tasks because of the software available. To assert that there is no reason to use anything except one OS be it Mac or Windows or the BeOS for that matter is just stupid.
Sometimes my arms bend back.
Dude, you're posting from the clue free zone. Apple used superior technology in the late 1980s, but outside of ADB very little of it was proprietary. SCSI? Apple didn't own that. NuBus? TI would have happily sold you NuBus chipsets. This technology wasn't widely used, and more's the pity, but it was hardly proprietary as say, MCA was (sure, you could license MCA from IBM, but it was priced high to keep anyone from selling systems with an MCA bus that would undercut IBMs PC division).
They threw out all of the lovely Apple made it better hardware and noone noticed. They took out SCSI - why? Because IDE is better? How about because IDE is cheaper. So be happy for the PC commodity market and the open source movement - without either of them you couldn't have the Mac you have today at the price point it sells for.
They took out SCSI because the price/performance difference wasn't as great, vis a vis IDE, as it had been for desktop systems. It was a smart move, Oh, and if you need external storage you have FireWire as a replacement for SCSI or you can buy an Adaptec SCSI card if you really need the fastest drives out there.
I'm glad you have found memories of the Macs of the '80s and '90s. I won't argue that the PC hardware was better, and the PC OSes sucked. But so did MacOS.
Did you love Multifinder? How about having to manually adjust memory settings for each application? How about no preemptive multitasking? How about one app crashes and the whole system eats it? Memory fragmentation?
My favorite part of all. Troubleshooting MacOS. Oooh look a cannonball! Ooooh type 3 error!
Compared to working on any PC based OS at the time MacOS was a dream. You talk about the lack of pre-emptive multi-tasking on the Macintosh, yeah, Windows sure did multi-task well, and those neato Hex codes you got when your box blue-screened were always so informative that tracking down the cause of the problem was a piece of cake.
How about extensions? Did you enjoy working with them? Did you enjoy how one would stomp all over the address space of another? Did you like manually swapping extensions out of the system folder (pre extensions manager) to isolate the conflict?
Troubleshooting Mac problems was trivial (assuming that you weren't completely retarded). Want to have fun? Try to get your ethernet card driver, PC-NFS and the Renassance GRX graphics driver for AutoCAD to load into high memory. Remember having to edit your config.sys and autoexec.bat to change the order in which device drivers and TSRs loaded? Yeah, I remember doing that, and I'll never get that time back and while I did have to do similar things on the Mac I spent a lot less time doing it.
Yeah it was a dream OS to work on. Sorry, no thanks I had an Amiga back then. I got to run MacOS on it too for work purposes. In fact it was the cheapest way to run Mac software considering the crazy cost of '80s Macs. Oh yeah and the OS kicked ass. Preemptive multitasking, dynamice memory allocation, GUI and a nice shell.
Oh, you're a former Amiga luser, that explains a lot. Yeah, the Amiga was a great system, except for the fact that the GUI was almost as shit ugly as Windows versions 1 and 2. And there weren't any applications for it, and the company was run by fucking idiots, and if you wanted to put a fucking hard drive on one of them you had to pay a price that made Macintosh hardware look reasonable by comparison and there was no way to expand the system unless you used an external chassis (for the 500 or 1000) or had enough coin to buy a 2000 (which gave you lots of slots and perhaps you could even find some hardware that worked in them). Yeah, the Amiga, that platform was a model of open standards.
BTW it i
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