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Straczynski Offers To Re-Boot Star Trek [updated]

EvilMagnus writes "I just came across this thread over on usenet where J. Michael Straczynski, creator of Babylon 5 and Jeremiah, talks about the cancellation of Enterprise. It seems he and a collaborator have already written a series bible and treatment for a new version of Star Trek - but it's not been pitched to Paramount out of 'political considerations' (Berman refusing to give up his dead horse?). JMS calls for everyone who thinks a JMS-run Star Trek series would be a good idea to write Paramount and let them know." Along similar lines, yonnage writes "Last week there was an article posted here about Enterprise fans atempting to pay for the next season of Enterprise. It seems that all the efforts have been pulled together and a new website has been created and has started collecting contributions for Enterprise's next season." Update: 02/16 19:47 GMT by T : Read the rest of the thread to see JMS's followup; he's decided to at least postpone this endeavor.

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  1. Great idea by Fox_1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The nice thing about JMS's work is how he weaves complex themes into the story arc, rather then exploring and discarding them in single episode blips. That was great for the original Star Trek and early science fiction on tv (time tunnel, that sub show, quantum leap, etc) but the work of series like Bab5 has raise sci fi on tv to a higher level - where they take advantage of the serial esque nature of weekly broadcasts.
    I'm in.

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    1. Re:Great idea by Fox_1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      people change and cultures change and while too structured an arc may be out of date by the time it is complete (see what 9/11 did to some shows and movies), I think that with the right 'architect' so to speak the arc can adapt. You are right about TNG - early episodes in tng (season 1) show a different flavor and philosophy to some of the more complex episodes near the end of the run. trying to think of an example - best I have is how the Data character evolved, or some of the prime directive messes - I know there are inconsistencies in there somewhere. However they had the PICARD and that overcomes all clumsy plot devices. The beauty of the ARC is really complex character development can happen over multiple shows - of course you miss a few episodes and it can be confusing. (farscape, glactica, bab5) Course I perfer a hybrid where the one off episodes are well woven into a larger ARC - Star Gate does this pretty well.

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    2. Re:Great idea by ajs · · Score: 5, Funny
      Great idea or tragedy waiting to happen?

      Probably neither. It's probably so unlikely that it's not worth categorizing. The reasons are many, but it comes down to this: Straczynski is pig-headed, but not stupid. He would never agree to do it without complete creative control, and there's practically no way Paramount would allow that to happen. It would be along the lines of Bill Gates giving over control of the Windows platform to Linus Torvalds without even retaining the right to veto checkins.

      Without complete creative control, you know what would happen: JMS would put forward his bible saying, "we tear down half of Starfleet and kill off a few notables to shake things up," and Paramount would reply with notes like the following:
      • Sounds good, but I don't think we want to kill anyone who has an action figure
      • "Tear down" might be too strong. Let's just say that there's a night-club bombing somewhere on Ferengi-prime
      • Great ideas, but you need to sex it up a bit
      • The first scene needs to really pull the viewers in: make it a fist fight
      • My kid loves tribbles, can you work one in as a major character?
      He's been through this before with TNT and Crusade (the mess that you saw on TV was the result). He won't do it again.

      All that said, YES, petition Paramount to do it. I think that at the very least it shows a massive lack of confidence in current show-runners and might upset the apple-cart enough to get someone creative in there.
    3. Re:Great idea by drsquare · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On the other hand, it makes it so that people who aren't obsessive TV viewers who religiously watch every single episode, all in order, can't get into it. If you sit down and watch a single episode, you won't understand it. That doesn't make it a better programme, it doesn't 'raise it to a higher level', it just narrows its appeal, and turns it more into a soap.

  2. It's Berman's fault by sugapablo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's Berman's fault the series on TV is as stale as it is. Proof is that some of the ST novels are tremendously well-written, proving their are plenty of new, fresh, and quality stories left to tell in the final frontier.

    Of the best, are the DS9 relaunch, which continues the story of Deep Space Nine directly after the TV series ends, and Peter David's remarkable New Frontier series with it's Xenexian captain Mackenzie Calhoun. This series has proved, IMHO, to be one of the best out of all the Trek series.

    1. Re:It's Berman's fault by blowdart · · Score: 5, Funny
      "Kaptain we're being zucked into a black Berman hole"

      "Fire the JMS ego ray ensign, they should cancel each other out"

      "A hot space babe has just appeared, the ratings levels are going up rapidly, most logical captain"

      Whoever does it around 50% of the fans are going to complain.

  3. JMS - PLEASE READ THIS! by Seumas · · Score: 5, Funny

    More Wil Wheaton!

  4. Recanted by mondoterrifico · · Score: 5, Informative

    He has already recanted this offer. http://www.jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?id=1-17287/

    1. Re:Recanted by cnettel · · Score: 5, Informative
  5. Actually he retracted the request for now.... by MauMan · · Score: 5, Informative
    Actually he retracted the request for now....

    Actually...belay everything I just said.

    In the 24 hours between the time I composed the prior note, and sent
    it, and it made its way through the moderation software, two things
    happened:

    1) I heard from a trusted source that Paramount is giving the Trek TV
    world a rest for maybe one to two years, depending on circumstances, no
    matter who would come along to run it. So it's not right to have folks
    putting in time doing something that ultimately would be pointless, I
    don't think that's a proper use of anybody's time.

    2) At the same time as the above, an offer came in to run a new TV
    series for fall of '06, and since there's no way anything Trek can
    happen in the interim, I've said yes (now we have to negotiate the
    deal, but that should be fairly straightforward).

    So on two counts, the whole thing is kind of moot.

    We can reconvene a year or two down the road to see where this takes
    us, but in the interim...my apologies for waking everybody up in the
    middle of the night.

    As you were.

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  6. They lost it after DS9... by bani · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ..Voyager, and then Enterprise proved that the producers have completely lost their marbles, and totally lost touch with the core audience.

    As soon as I heard the Enterprise opening theme, I knew it was dead.

    I think trek needs to die, and stay dead for another 15 years or so. Only then will it be ready for another revival.

    Such wasted effort on tripe like Enterprise, when stuff like Firefly is far more deserving.

  7. Idea already been pulled by Dionysus · · Score: 5, Informative

    JMS already pulled the idea (Paramount decided to give Trek TV a rest).
    Check out the updated info at TrekWeb

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  8. I can't bare to see Star Trek end! by lordmetroid · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I continously hope for enterprise to be ended in it's seven season as a Star Trek series ought to be ended! I must admit though that some seasons were really lame, I liked enterprise at first. When they didn't have any equipment that worked and their was no experience in anything of what they did had political problems with klingons and vulcans as well as andorians, pretty much the starting seasons. later on as they got photonic torpedoes and other technologies to their usage so that the humans wouldn't seem so inferior, that was when the show started to go bad and it's anticlimax must in my opinion been the whole time wars shit. This season been quite good though with Vulcans having internal problems and dealing with Andorians and Romulans starting to look like something good again, and hence I would like to have the series continue. Hopefully a new Star Trek series will also be made, I seem to never be able to get enough of Star Trek. I would have nothing against a remake of the old series, but I think they need to cram in some more juice into it, better scenery and Klingons that actually look like they should do and not human!

  9. I am getting sick of this.... by brunes69 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... tripe on Slashdot. People go on and on about how "It has all been downhill since TNG" and it has all been Berman's fault, etc.

    For one thing, Roddenberry died midway through TNG. Berman was basically the man at the helm for what was argueable the best portion of the series, the last 3 seasons. Even before that, he played a very, very large part in TNG. So to say that "Berman is Death" of everything, than to praise TNG, borders on the edge of ridiculousness.

    For another, DS9 (the first series run soley by Berman) was actually very good (once it got going - the first season or two were quite.. icky).

    Voyager, well..... what can you say. An amazing capability for a plot line, but it descended into fodder. Basically, the same thing with Enterprise.

    So from *my* point of view, he is batting 0.500 - a decent average the way I look at it.

    Aside from all this - you people seem to believe that the whole series lives and dies by Berman's word. Shouldn't some of the blame be put on the writers? The writers are the ones coming up with the same old crap over and over again.

  10. Re:I see... by EnsilZah · · Score: 5, Funny

    Makes his corpse reverse polarity in its grave, one might say.

  11. Let it die by gooman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think I speak for many Trek fans that when I first heard about Enterprise, the possibilities for a prequel series seemed very interesting, and after Voyager we deserved something decent.

    Like many I was worried about Berman being involved. I became more worried when the opening credits feature a dreadful recycled pop song instead of something symphonic. Then the temporal cold war silliness starts. Meanwhile, all along has been little effort to remain consistant with the Trek universe.

    I will admit, I have not laughed so hard in a long time as I did when I saw the Xindi Nazi at the end of last season. But I don't think that was the intended effect.

    For everyone who who is proclaiming this season is much better, how could it get much worse. Paramount and Berman especially should be ashamed at how they have treated such a large and loyal fanbase.

    That said, I'm actually surprised that UPN killed it. They kept Voyager going for seven years and it was horrible most of that time. Enterprise seems like the high spot on their garbage filled network.

    Trek needs a rest. If you want to send someone your money give it to http://www.eff.org/ or some other worthy cause. Don't worry, there will be more Trek, it has made too much money to be ignored forever.

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  12. Expensive Props and Poor Writing by bfline · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Star Trek has suffered from poor writing since after TNG. Even Deep Space Nine still had some good plots that made you interested. Another problem with Enterprise is that they have bores like Trip and Malcom. I loved B5. Loved it. I am sure JMS would make sure that the writing wasn't lame. How? Because with little money to work with he concentrated on the storylines. I think they should stop spending so much money on the props, sets, makeup, etc., and start spending it on the writing. I also loved the original Trek which became classic because of the writing again, certainly not the props.

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