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d4 asks: "Thad Starner has been using a wearable computer daily since 1993, and Steve Mann has had an impressive amount of press coverage over the years. But if you want wearable computing in 2005, it seems you must build your own system. Why, after all this time and attention, are wearables still not commercially available?"

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  1. Reboot? by orangeguru · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't want to reboot by pants! And I don't want a virus in my jacket ...

    1. Re:Reboot? by a1englishman · · Score: 3, Funny

      A virus in your pants sounds far worse.

  2. maybe... by same_old_story · · Score: 5, Insightful

    because they are still bulky and pretty useless...

    1. Re:maybe... by UserChrisCanter4 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not only that, but consider the niche they target. Plenty of niche requirements are not commercially available.

      Example: where are the consumer targetted RAID-capable NAS units? Sure, I can buy RAID NAS devices from plenty of vendors, but a quick peek shows Iomega's chepest RAID capable unit over the $1,000 range new (and don't go spouting off on remanufactured units on ebay; that doesn't count). This is a simple example, but the NAS from other vendors is pretty much the same deal. Consumer-line NAS exists, yes, but consumers NEED RAID. They never run backups, and they're usually storing things like digital camera photos that they'll never be able to recover after an HDD crash. This need has arguably existed for several years, and I'd happily recommend a zero-maintenance box with two mirrored 80GB drives and an ethernet port in the $500 range for tons of non-techies that I know. I've seen one ethernet-based disk by some company I don't know of that claims RAID support, but I'm not sure how, since it exists as a stand-alone single-drive model (does it start mirroring over the network automagically?). Buffalo seems like they might finally be stepping up to the plate, but for a long time it's been "roll your own or fork over $1,000 more than you can justify."

      Or:

      Hot on the heels of the SFF story, we're only now starting to see actually-for-sale SFF computers, as opposed to bare-bones units. Sure, there've been skinny corporate-targetted workstations for a while, but the pseudo enthusiast who wanted an SFF-like computer either built it from components or lived without one. It's only been in the last nine months or so that I've seen these things available on shelves or somewhere other than an obscure whitebox retailer's website.

      So in addition to being bulky and useless, wearables are so totally niche right now that there's no money to be made in commercially providing one for anything other than a total specialty area.

    2. Re:maybe... by Grab · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For a short answer, that's basically it. :-)

      For a long answer:-
      * Batteries still don't last long enough and are still too heavy.
      * Chording keyboards are still immature, expensive, clunky and not widely available.
      * There still isn't a suitable viewing mechanism - all current ones suffer from one or more of: not enough resolution; can't support colour; produces eye-strain; too heavy; too clunky; too expensive; too fragile; requires too much power drain.

      So if you want a wearable, you're stuck with a low-powered processor, a heavy battery pack, a clunky chording keyboard, and an ugly (and heavy) headset that'll only do 640x480 in grey-scale. And it'll cost a fortune.

      Grab.

  3. Because by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Funny

    Even geeks want to try and find a date!

    --
    "Flyin' in just a sweet place,
    Never been known to fail..."
    1. Re:Because by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Funny
      Even geeks want to try and find a date!


      Obviously neither of the two gentlemen listed in the story -- think Harold from Red Green gone horribly wrong.
      --
      Lost at C:>. Found at C.
  4. 3 Simple Reasons by smug_lisp_weenie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Battery life- Batteries haven't been keeping up with other computer components in terms of improvements. A hefty CPU just drains them too quickly- And without a hefty CPU a Palm PC form factor is more practical.
    2. Headaches- Nobody has figured out how to make an eyeglass display that doesn't cause lots of complaints about migranes. The atari VR system and the Nintendo VR both got killed by this.
    3. Dork factor- Until Apple releases an iWearable and tempts all the hipster-wannabes with commercials, you just can't walk around with this gear in public without feeling weird- Just like with MP3 players pre-ipod.

  5. one word: fashion by voisine · · Score: 3, Insightful

    pda's are horribly unfashionable, let alone headgear. You need a display that can be integrated into a pair of shades of your choice, and no antennas sticking up from behind the ears. Alternately perhaps apple could come up with something svelte and stylish that is itself a fashion statement like white ipod ear phones are now.

  6. Simple. by Seumas · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The technology has not been advanced enough to the point that hardware can be small enough as to avoid making the wearer look like a complete moron. And, even if we had acheived that point, there isn't much use for 'wearable' computers. Exactly what do you need one for? You can't use a regular GPS and/or PDA to do everything you would need to do while mobile?

  7. Who needs wearable? by xwizbt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Might the fact that no-one wears a wearable computer be because no-one needs to? We all carry mobile phones, and are thus available at all times. Some of us have mobiles with calendars, to-do items and so on. We're connected.

    Others use PDAs, which give them computing powers beyond the dreams of those who languish in the nineties. We can now emulate elderly computers on a handheld

    Wearable computers... we carry them in our pockets.

  8. Why I don't use wearable computers Reason #1: by rocjoe71 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't use wearable computers since my tie keeps getting caught in the CPU fan.

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    Height: 38U, Weight: 0 Newtons, Eyes: #0000FF, OS: Gray Matter 1.0 (Alpha)
  9. I was going to be funny but... by Bin_jammin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I guess if you really have to ask why there are no wearable computers, the humor would just be lost anyway.

  10. Where...able ? by Wudbaer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Where did I leave my frigging whereable ? Maybe I look it up on my wearable.

  11. I wear a computer by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What everyone seems to miss is that we are already wearing computers. 145 million Americans have cellular telephones. Many of them have capabilities that far surpass what could be done with 1996-class desktops, let alone wearables.

    There's no need for the dorky headgear or the wierd chorded keyboards. I'm already wearing a computer. It's the Danger Hiptop2. It has a thumbkeyboard, a display, a connection to the internet, and a number of other features. It can do just about anything that the "wearables" of 1996 could do.

    Wearables don't exist because they don't need to exist. What's wrong with products like the Dell Axim X50v? It has a 624MHz PXA270 ARM processor, 64MB of DRAM, 128MB of flash, a VGA touchscreen, WLAN, Bluetooth, infared, CF and SD expansion, and a lot more.

    It's $425, it runs for 6 hours on batteries, and it absolutely blows away any "wearable" you saw on the Discovery Channel. Oh, and you don't look like a dork for carrying one.

  12. One more. by jfisherwa · · Score: 5, Funny

    4. Basements- Having a wearable computer would mean that geeks would actually have to enter the unforgiving world that awaits beneath the scorching sun.

  13. Actually, they are out there. by bruciferofbrm · · Score: 4, Informative

    Look at: http://www.xybernaut.com

    They have been at it for some time.

    I use dto want to play this game too. Spent a lot of money (of what I could afford) on some gear. Closet thing I had to a mobile processor was an old laptop.

    But at the time, display technology was below perfomance / dollar expections of the everyday man. But persevered I did. Even wrote a contact manager that runs in low resolution with a one handed keyboard.

    In the end I made the same decision most other people will. For the dollar, you can't get where you want to be. The only real people capable of advancing this field are still the R&D gang and the college kids (usually the same group).

    In addition, as mentioned by others, it hard to beat some of eht computing power availble in the PDA form factor (especially in Japan). I have been oon PDAs since the original PALM 128k unit. No need for a bulky monocular display hanging off my head, great run time, and lots of applications for the mobile user. And yet.. nothing truely pervasive as seen in the wearble experimental world.

  14. No marketing by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Informative
    Seriously, that's the problem. Steve Mann's EyeTap systems are the best wearable argumented reality systems available. Unfortunately he doesn't even consider it necessary to add some sunglass lenses to the front of the EyeTap, making himself look like a cyborg, which is the point really, being that he does "performance art" with it. The irony of it is, the EyeTap systems would look like normal sunglasses if you put sunglass lenses on them.

    Now I have to wonder. Steve Mann isn't interested in commercializing this stuff, but he does provide full specs on how to make them, so which isn't someone commercializing this technology? I'd buy a pair of sunglasses that looked cool and let me google whilst talking to people, wouldn't you? Imagine someone asking you a question and you being able to answer with the power of google at your disposal!

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    How we know is more important than what we know.
  15. They have arrived... by Ender_Stonebender · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...you just didn't notice. (Okay, actually, they're not available to the public yet, but a couple of review sites have gotten their hands on working models.)

    Fossil Abacus Wrist PDA

    Okay, this is probably more the inspiration for asking the question rather than what was being sought, but it's still a computer that you wear.

    --Ender

    --
    Loose things are easy to lose. You're getting your hair cut. They're going there to see their aunt.
  16. a solution in search of an application by tverbeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A former boss of mine has an excellent question he always asks regarding requests to acquire new technology: "What's the problem for which this is the solution?" The lack of an answer to that question is the answer to the question posed by this thread.

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    http://alternatives.rzero.com/
  17. 9/11 by phlegm · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is the guy who was detained on 9/11. He sued Air Canada claiming that he was bleeding after having his chest electrodes removed. If they are growing into your skin you might want to clean a little more. Ick

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    tabooki.com
  18. Three words... by ralphclark · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Heads-Up Display.

    If you have to stop surfing to cross the road, it's not a proper wearable.

    1. Re:Three words... by ferkelparade · · Score: 2, Funny

      > If you have to stop surfing to cross the road

      There's a chicken joke somewhere in there, but I can't quite lay my fingers on it...

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      frotz grue
  19. Great... by Supernoma · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is just what we need, people trying to use a computer as they DRIVE.

    I mean honestly, people can't drive without distractions... and cell phones are causing huge problems, what will a computer do?

    I'm staying off the roads.

    --
    I'll Find You Peer, If It's The Last Thing I Do!!!!
  20. The reason that there are no wearables. by bastardoperator · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is the reason why there are no wearable Heat problems

  21. Many alternates by krikat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wearables haven't become popular because the people that would possibly use wearables realized that rather than wearing an expensive computer, they can wear armor or a startrek uniform and still look like just as much of a jackass.

  22. exactly! by interactive_civilian · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Anyone remember that IBM commercial of the businessman sitting on a bench in a plaza feeding the pigeons. At the beginning of the commercial, it looked like he was talking to himself and he gets more and more excited, finally jumping up and down shouting "YES!!" and all of the birds fly off. The idea was that he was watching his stock take off in realtime over the internet on a display mounted on his glasses that projected into his eyes.

    That is what I am waiting for. Something small, unobtrusive, and no less stylish than glasses. It would be really cool if you could have it be a semi-transparent overlay over the real world. It would be even more cool if a system could be implemented to feed you realtime info about what you are looking at.

    But I get the feeling I'll get one of those for free with my Flying Car that I will have won as part of the opening sales promotion of Duke Nukem Forever.

    --
    "Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks
  23. www.xybernaut.com/ by yyttrrre · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They exist in some capacity. This site sells a few www.xybernaut.com/. Looks like they even run linux!!

  24. Re:No 'Killer App' by golgotha007 · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you're not trolling and really interested in a "killer app" with regards to wearable computing, I suggest you read this paper by Steve Mann which explains exactly how augmented reality can improve your awareness in everyday situations.

    The man is truly a genius and well ahead of our time.

  25. Wearable - No Where Specified by Jippy+T+Flounder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've been practically attached to my PC for almost 20 years now, and some of the various ailments i've developed (aside from seeing scan-lines everywhere) are with my back and neck muscles.

    Wearable computing is not only about walking the streets, looking like something out of cyberpunk. It's also for those of us who'd like to use our wired stations like human beings. I'd like to be able to sit / lie down at my workstation, and not have to strain my wrists/eyes/neck/back/etc. in order to be productive.

    I'd KILL for a decent headset, not too expensive, so i can dump my monitor and stare in whichever direction is most comfortable. I'd like better input so I can code without having to find the keys (I'm no touch-typist, but there are simple solutions when attached to a pair of decent, *cheap* gloves).

    All these things are just as much about wearability (is that a word), and IMO more important than how far you can go. You don't need a PC while driving your car. But you do need to work comfortably.

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    ---- I was woken up this morning by a face full of fur. Damn cat thought my head made a good pillow.
  26. Re:No 'Killer App' by QuantumG · · Score: 2, Insightful

    University exams should be about applying knowledge, not regurgitating it. When I left university the vast majority of my exams were "open book" but a textbook is such an innefficient piece of technology. The problem with communication equipment in exam rooms, however, is that someone else could be reading through your glasses and doing the work for you.

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    How we know is more important than what we know.
  27. i'm not convinced - wearables should be here today by bshanks · · Score: 2, Insightful

    looks to me like people are saying:

    1) they don't want it
    2) tech isn't there yet to make it small enough

    as for (1), i'm personally convinced that plenty of people will be using it once they see how convenient it makes things. everyone claims their
    PDA is good enough, but i bet they don't dispense with their home computer and use their PDA full-time like we'll be able to when "full-power" wearables are eventually available. and i bet they don't constantly check the GPS on their PDA. or IM strangers in Times Square. (see http://www.headmap.org/book/manifesto/hm-blank.htm and http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/story/0,3...,9223 37,00.html)

    but, besides all these "new" applications, computing will be nicer when you don't have to sit in front of the computer to do it.

    however, that's a long way away; what I'd like today is just a $3000 low-resolution, slow, B&W sunglasses-embedded HMD and "virtual keyboard" (finger tracker). I do see people's point here; a PDA can do much of what this would be used for, and it would be cheaper, and color, and not feel weird. Personally, I'd shell out for the low-resolution sunglasses-enabled model and finger-tracker because the extra bandwidth (large display area (assuming the display changed when you moved your head) and large "virtual" keyboard) would allow me to do a lot of stuff "on the road" (waiting in line at the supermarket, etc) that I can't do efficiently on a tiny
    PDA interface.

    as for (2), i'm a little confused because, as some posters noted, corps started using cell phones before they were small. my feeling is that none by the nerdiest even think about wearable, much less realize the convenience and efficiency gains that wearables could bring. if corporations had it on their radar, I think they would buy them even now.

    -- bayle