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Round the World Flight Set for Monday

An anonymous reader writes "LiveScience is now reporting that Burt Rutan's GlobalFlyer is set for Monday takeoff. The plane, piloted by Steve Fossett, has been grounded since January by weather. The mission: the first solo, nonstop circumnavigation of the globe via jet powered craft without refueling." Commentary also available from the BBC.

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  1. Good Luck! by Kid+Zero · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope what goes around comes around. :)

    1. Re:Good Luck! by chimpo13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's always easy to bitch about someone doing something. There's plenty of stuff in the Guinness book that's not difficult. This one is more difficult then you realize.

  2. Salina, Kansas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's awesome. I'm from Salina, KS and nothing ever happens here. It's about time something cool happened.

  3. Other notable Circumnavigation attempts: by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Informative
    available in this Wikipedia article.

    The first successful nonstop, nonrefueling flight was made by Dick Rutan and Jeana Yeager in their Scaled Composites Model 76 Voyager back in 1986. That one wasn't solo though.

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  4. For my next trick by lcnxw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    a nonstop solo flight around the world twice blindfolded without a parachute with my eyes closed.

    why do we need to keep proving that yes, we _can_ fly planes and do amazing feats.

  5. Frequent Flyer Miles by Bender0x7D1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hopefully he gets some frequent flyer miles for this trip. It would be great if he could go back to the places he flew over and actually visit them.

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  6. Pfft. by ColonelFubster · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hal & Viola Leveller fly to Laughlin, Nevada from Southern California every week without refueling. And you don't see them being the subject of an article on Slashdot.

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  7. It's a matter of terminology by ergo98 · · Score: 3, Informative

    In this context, the term circumnavigate historically meant by boat or ship, however recently aircraft have been added. Spacecraft aren't included in this illustrious set.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumnavigation

  8. Re:Why is this cool? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The pilot is secondary. The aircraft, and its technology, is the key thing. However, Fossett has proven, at least to Rutan, that he is a capable pilot, able to navigate all the way around the world (mostly), by himself. The people who have done that comprises a very short list.

  9. first with a Jet engine by Bart+van+der+Ouderaa · · Score: 4, Informative

    Burt was the first with an airplane, but it was powered by props. Steve is trying to be the first with a jet engine. A single jet engine in this case.

    1. Re:first with a Jet engine by Capt'n+Hector · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Interestingly enough, that single engine is more reliable than the two props that were used before. The probability of both props failing, plus the probability of either one failing is higher than the probability of the single jet failing any time during the flight. (Although if it did fail, it would be rather close to the end of the flight, if you get my drift...)

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    2. Re:first with a Jet engine by flyingsquid · · Score: 2, Informative

      Spirit of Saint Louis was built with one engine because two engines increased the probability of engine failure. Extra engines are safer but only if you can fly with one not functioning. I'm going to guess that continuing the flight across the Atlantic on a single engine wasn't a realistic possibility with the technology of the day.

  10. Re:Why is this cool? by TWX · · Score: 2

    Well, If this succeeds I'm going to give a lot more credit to Rutan than I am to the pilot, excepting the endurance that the pilot will need in order to do this at all, though that is a fairly critical thing.

    Burt Rutan and Scaled Composites seem to be popular lately, though they've been pushing the envelope now for many, many years. The first time that I heard of Rutan was when he developed his asymetrical "Boomerang" aircraft and it made its debut in 1996, and from then on I've seen him and his company do increasingly cool things. Seeing as how Rutan's SpaceShipOne was the first private craft to go suborbital, he's going to make the news.

    Let the rich people play with this stuff, at least it's pushing things into new realms, not like some rich guy who buys an existing small passenger jet just for a toy.

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  11. Re:Hasn't it been done before? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2, Informative
    Not sure on this, but I don't think there's even been a space flight that has done this with a one person crew.

    The many NASA Mercury flights, and the first set of Russian flights.

  12. 'Round the World in 80 Hours by Bitwaba · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "The around-the-world flight should be completed inside 80 hours" Jules Verne thought 80 days was hard to pull off. Imagine what he would think of this.

    1. Re:'Round the World in 80 Hours by legirons · · Score: 2, Informative

      285 mph - does that sound like an 87-hour trip when you do the calculations?

  13. Re:Hasn't it been done before? by Colgate2003 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Most of the early orbital flights were solo. If not, why was Yuri Gagarin the "first person to orbit the Earth;" singular?

    John Glenn did it for the Americans soon after.

  14. Re:Hasn't it been done before? by mlush · · Score: 3, Informative
    Not sure on this, but I don't think there's even been a space flight that has done this with a one person crew. Don't have the patience to search it, I'm at the in-laws this weekend...slow dialup.

    I think a chap called Yuri Gagarin may qualify, and if he does not another Russian or one of the Mercury pilots definatly will

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  15. woo woo by jbridge21 · · Score: 3, Informative
  16. Much better link by caryw · · Score: 4, Informative

    Much more information suitable to the slashdot crowd is available at:
    http://www.virginatlanticglobalflyer.com/
    We don't like press releases or watered down news articles.
    Also, I bet the US government has some recon plane that has/can do something like this. I know it's possible with mid-air refueling but I bet they can do it without. Just my $0.02
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  17. Re:Blue skies by cmd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    During launch the plane is so loaded with fuel that it can barely liftoff. Yes, they do need good weather for this. Once airborne they//// he can fly over most weather and (hopefully) avoid the rest.

  18. around the north part you mean... by Duncan3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yet another "around the world" trip that's not around the equator, and just follows the jet stream.

    I can grab the north pole and run "around" the world in 2 seconds, and it would be just as valid as their definition - i.e. lame.

    But still, cool toys :)

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    1. Re:around the north part you mean... by srblackbird · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's so NOT true ! The FAI's rules state that a record attempt like this must start and finish at the same airfield and cross all meridians of the globe. What's more the course must not be less than the very precise figure of 36,787.559 kilometres (around 23,000 miles) which is equal in length to the Tropic of Cancer. To allow the Virgin Atlantic GlobalFlyer to catch the vital jet stream winds, the FAI rules don't oblige that record attempts follow the imaginary line of the Tropic itself but simply that the distance flown exceeds it. That doesn't mean, however, that Steve Fossett could fly across the Poles. The course must also be kept away from the North and South "Frigid Zones", defined as being at latitudes of over 66degrees33minutes.

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    2. Re:around the north part you mean... by grozzie2 · · Score: 2, Informative
      The formal definition of a 'round the world' is that it must pass over 2 points that are diametrically opposed on the globe, cross every line of longitude, with a landing location at or 'past' the point of departure, defined as either landing at or overflying the point of departure after completing the other requirements. That doesn't mean around the equator. Your 'run around the north pole' will qualify, if, it also includes a pass over the south pole, and returns you to the point of departure, landing there, or somewhere past it after passing over it.

      Your definition is, well, lame.

  19. Does the pilot sleep? by Rauchbier · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is an 80 hour trip - when does the pilot sleep? Does he use an auto pilot?

    1. Re:Does the pilot sleep? by balster+neb · · Score: 4, Informative

      According to the BBC article, he will be getting next to no sleep.

      Apparently he's pretty used to feats of endurance, and he holds records in aviation and sailing. Due to the nature of the aircraft and the flying conditions, he will constantly have to be at the controls. The only sleep he expects is in the form of 5 minute naps, for which an autopilot backup and countdown alarm will be available.

      His voyage will only take around 80 hours. The first around the world flight of this sort (in 1986) took about 9 days. The two pilots had to work in short shifts, but were severely fatigued at the end of the journey. This solo journey is possible for Steve Fossett because he is using a jet engine.

  20. So, it doesn't count if you do it on foot? by benhocking · · Score: 2, Funny

    It seems this lady is going to be upset when she learns that! Of course, she might also get upset when she realizes how hard it is to hold your breath when trying to cross the Atlantic or Pacific Oceans on foot. :P

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  21. Re:Why is this cool? by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Funny
    Why is it cool when a rich guy PURCHASES technology and uses it?

    Hel-LO, but isn't that exactly what Batman does? And Batman's cool!

  22. Re:Why is this cool? by Moofie · · Score: 2, Informative

    Surely you're aware that Rutan's first design was one that you (YOU!) could literally build in your garage, right?

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  23. Snacks and coffee by Burning+Plastic · · Score: 2, Funny

    Chocolate covered coffee beans and a dash mounted espresso machine...

    I wonder if his cockpit will look like my car after a long drive - empty cups and wrappers strewn on the floor with a pile of loose CDs on the passenger seat (he'll have to use the floor or the dash)...

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  24. Re:Blue skies by Gunnery+Sgt.+Hartman · · Score: 2, Funny

    They're taking off from Kansas State University-Salina, which is almost dead center Kansas. It seems that every week they cancel the thing because of bad weather. It's friggin' Kansas in February, of course it's going to be bad weather!! But on the other hand, they cancel it a day or so in advance when they could just wait five minutes for the weather to change.....

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  25. No seriously, wtf? by celerityfm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would love more information on this, please someone, explain the joke/info?

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  26. Hal and Viola Leveller by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hal and Viola Leveller are characters on the Phil Hendrie radio show. The recurring gag is that they call in to the show during their flight to Laughlin, and get into very animated discussions with Phil when they should be concentrating on flying their plane.

    It's not the funniest skit on the show, but it is mildly entertaining. I personally prefer Phil's commentary to his skits.

  27. Clarification about around the world by Foo2rama · · Score: 3, Informative

    The FAI's rules state that a record attempt like this must start and finish at the same airfield and cross all meridians of the globe. What's more the course must not be less than the very precise figure of 36,787.559 kilometres (around 23,000 miles) which is equal in length to the Tropic of Cancer. To allow the Virgin Atlantic GlobalFlyer to catch the vital jet stream winds, the FAI rules don't oblige that record attempts follow the imaginary line of the Tropic itself but simply that the distance flown exceeds it.

    with FAI being Federation Aeronautique Internationale (FAI) - the world's air sports federation.

    Go Rutan, first non-stop around the world (voyager.) First Civilain plane into space (spaceship one,)and now this

    This also does not include his incredibly well known kitbuilt aircraft long and veri ez's, the Beech starship, or the numerous military projects he has done.

    Rutan will most likly go down as one the most important aircraft designers of all time.

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  28. Some finer points by codeButcher · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Popular Mechanics had a nice article the other day about this, which clears up some questions:
    • According to Fosset (the designated pilot for this mission) Dick Rutan (co-pilot of the previous circumnavigation together with Jeana Yeager, and older brother of designer Burt), they met at a party at Barron Hilton's in 1999 and Rutan told Fosset: "Steve, you could do me one better; you could do it solo."
    • The plane would have to carry a ratio of 83% fuel to body weight on takeoff. Mass (and structural safety margins) where cut seriously for this, consequently the plane will only fly once with full weight (a number of test flights have been done with less weight in fuel).
    • Fossett intends to fly route without sleep, but off the American West Coast would be a good place to nap (with autopilot on) to increase alertness for descent and landing. It seems that outside of takeoff and landing, the guy would not have much more to do than monitor dials and make the off adjustment.
    • The Fédération Aéronatique Internationale, which governs air sports records, requires a 22,858-mile minimum for the record attempt. So a simple equatorial circumnavigation will not do the trick, and Fossett will fly a huge turn south over the Eastern Pacific to add the required miles.
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  29. Speaking of circumnavigation.... by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...I've heard that Boeing plans to do a very spectacular long-distance flight with the new 777-200 Long Range model.

    It sounds like Boeing might try to fly a 777-200LR with a completely stripped-out interior and loading it down with the weight equivalent of the interior parts plus standard cargo load in pre-cooled Jet A fuel. That could make it possible for the 777-200LR to fly as much as 13,000 nautical miles or so.

  30. Re:Route Taken? by gfreeman · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is there someway that we can see the planned route ...

    Yup, the BBC has a map of the planned route, here.

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