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Yahoo, Apache, Ebay, Amazon, Netscape Celebrate 10 Year Anniversaries

tagish writes "Roy Fielding writes on the Apache dev mailing list: 10 years ago today, the Apache Group decloaked with the creation of the new-httpd archive and initial accounts on hyperreal.org. I had the lucky timing of having the first message archived on the list, though we had actually been talking about what to do for at least a week before that (sadly, without any archives)." At the same time, Mike Porter simply writes "Yahoo celebrates its tenth anniversary on March 2nd." News about some other anniversaries available via an MSNBC article.

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  1. Confirmation email from Yahoo in 1995.. by nolife · · Score: 5, Interesting
    From id@yahoo.com Thu Nov 23 21:03:25 1995
    Return-Path: <id@yahoo.com>
    Received: from marburg.yahoo.com (marburg.yahoo.com [205.216.162.14]) by mail.hula.net (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) with ESMTP id VAA00599 for <XXXXXX@hula.net>; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 21:03:24 -1000
    From: id@yahoo.com
    Received: (from http@localhost) by marburg.yahoo.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA21476; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 23:03:25 -0800
    Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 23:03:25 -0800
    Message-Id: <199511240703.XAA21476@marburg.yahoo.com>
    To: XXXXXX@hula.net
    Subject: Your Yahoo ID
    Mime-Version: 1.0

    Thank you for registering. Your Yahoo ID is

    XXXXXXX

    Please make a note of it for future Yahoo promotions. By using
    this ID you can avoid filling out the personal information that
    you just submitted to us. We know that filling out these forms
    is a pain, so we'd like to make it as easy as possible. Address
    questions about this to id@yahoo.com.

    Thanks again for registering..

    Bunch of Yahoos
    --
    Bad boys rape our young girls but Violet gives willingly.
    1. Re:Confirmation email from Yahoo in 1995.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      you did realize that his username is "nolife", right?

  2. Re:Now please clean up your act by everdred · · Score: 5, Informative
    It's not in their business model.

    From the thus far print-only Wired article (available on wired.com on March 1), the average Yahoo! user spends 4.8 hours per month on their site. And Google users spend an average of 6/10ths of an hour on Google. And that's the way they both want it.

    Their approaches and goals are different. Google keeps their users coming back by getting them what they need as quickly as possible. Yahoo! seems to keep users coming back for Games! and Music! and Shopping! Oh my!

  3. Re:Now please clean up your act by everdred · · Score: 5, Informative

    By the way, if it's a clean, Google-like (search-centric) interface you'd like to see on Yahoo!, try search.yahoo.com.

  4. my apache experience 10 years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's my experience with Apache about (almost) ten years ago. I was working at a place where we were running NCSA httpd 1.3 on SunOS 4.1. Our web site had become more popular due to a news article or something. Performance was bad because NCSA httpd waited to receive a new TCP connection, and then forked a child to service that connection. The child served the request, then immediately exited. Not a horrible model when the web was some guy's fun little research project, but not optimal either.

    So, we needed something better. I had heard about this new httpd called Apache, which had started off life as a series of patches to NCSA httpd. Hence the name: it was a-patchy-server. I thought the pun was mildly lame, but when I read the info on how it worked, I was impressed: here was an httpd that forked off N different httpd server children in advance and then communicated with them to assign tasks as TCP connections came in. It would start out with N of them, and if all N were busy at the time a new connection came in, it would create child N+1, and so on. Performance was supposed to be something like an order of magnitude better, and since it was a branch of NCSA httpd, it could read all our config files (although we'd want to tweak them a little to get good performance).

    NCSA httpd 1.3 had been released, but no new changes had come from NCSA in a while, and these Apache people seemed to have gotten a lot accomplished in a short time, so I had a good feeling about them. So, I talked to my boss and suggested that this new Apache thingamabob might be the solution to all our problems.

    He thought about it and decided he wasn't sure some obscure bunch of hotshot developers creating their own rogue branch from the well-respected NCSA code were the type of people we should expect to be around for long. He thought it'd be much safer to just wait for NCSA httpd 1.4, which was supposed to have its own pre-forking implementation. So we did.

    A few years later, I had to look back and laugh that my boss was skeptical that this weird new Apache thing could ever catch on. But all in all, there was nothing wrong with his decision. He may've been a little too conservative, but a good system administrator makes decisions that will make the system work, and doesn't let the coolness factor of this or that technology sway him.

    On the other hand, I get some satisfaction from looking back and knowing that my gut instinct was right on target.

    On the other other hand, I get even more satisfaction from looking back and realizing I'm not a systems administrator anymore, and I've actually manage to escape to a different part of the technical universe (knock on wood). :-)

  5. I ALSO say this in all seriousness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What shallow person modded you insightful? The WWW would not be anything near what we have today, had it not been for Netscape in the 90s. One can argue that Mosaic had brought graphics to the WWW, but Netscape added Java, Javascript, plugins, and many other rich multimedia extensions just a click away.

    And don't forget, we would NOT have Firefox today, had it not been for Netscape.

  6. Characteristics of a Ten Year Old by NicksMyName · · Score: 5, Funny
    Just looked for the charactertics of a ten year old and found a good list here Ones that seem to apply to Apache as a ten year old:

    "Care of clothes/room at dismal low"

    "Responsive to anger often violent and immediate"

    "Will accept bathing schedule if it doesn't interfere with activities"

    "Fears at a low ebb"

    "Not yet aware of when they are tired and need to go to bed"

    "Humor is corny, sometimes smutty"

    "Interest span still somewhat short"

    "Needs certain amount of liberty to move around"

    "Concerned about fairness"

    "Greatest difficulties in relation to siblings "

    "Responsive to anger often violent and immediate"

    Ones that may not apply:

    "Still exhibits admiration for adults, teachers"

    "Still needs considerable amount of supervision to get things done, needs clues to organization"

    "Enjoys outdoor play activities, sports, collections, Cub Scouts, T.V., and video games" (well, except for the TV and Video Games)

    "Enjoys listening to stories"

    "Not necessarily a worker"

    "Have sudden bursts of affection"

    "Last age (for a while) when child goes happily on family outings"

  7. PNG by Glenn+R-P · · Score: 5, Interesting

    March 7, 1995, birth of the Portable Network Graphics (PNG) format.