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Yahoo, Apache, Ebay, Amazon, Netscape Celebrate 10 Year Anniversaries
tagish writes "Roy Fielding writes on the Apache dev mailing list: 10 years ago today, the Apache Group decloaked with the creation
of the new-httpd archive and initial accounts on hyperreal.org.
I had the lucky timing of having the first message archived on
the list, though we had actually been talking about what to do
for at least a week before that (sadly, without any archives)." At the same time, Mike Porter simply writes "Yahoo celebrates its tenth anniversary on March 2nd." News about some other anniversaries available via an MSNBC article.
FREMONT, CA (TECHNEWS) - After a heated debate at Slashdot executive offices, editor Michael Sims was locked out of the building and departed in a tirade of lisping insults, vowing revenge immediately. This morning, industry sources revealed that Sims has joined the infamous trolling organization Gay Nigger Association of America with the intent of trolling Slashdot fulltime.
In a short phone interview with Technews, Sims asserted that he was calm but resolved on his course of action. "The Slashdot editors and I had a disagreement," he explained. "I did it all for the users, but they..." he drew the syllable out painfully, resting on a case full of Little League trophies and certificates of participation from transgendered dating services, "They just couldn't take my truth. They were -- babies, just babies, oh, the horror, the abomination," he said, before being led away by three white-clad male nurses.
According to Harvard Psychology Professor Arnold Rothstahlberg, "trolling" is an internet phenomenon where dissenting users disrupt a site by flooding it with absurd or paradoxical information. "It satisfies the primal id," he said, chewing on a large, bulbous, phallic black cigar. "To justify themselves by forcing their enemies into hysterics. It's a compensatory mechanism much like getting back at the kids who beat you up in high school by installing Linux and using it to pingflood their XP boxes and Macs."
Slashdot editor CmdrTaco was reticent to comment. At an interview conducted in the crap-filled Ann Arbor bungalow he shares with his wife, to whom he proposed over Slashdot, he said, "Well, you know, Slashdot is just a web site. Michael should calm down about this. But if he doesn't, our corporate sponsors will sue him until he's giving $4 blowjobs on Haight Street."
From the GNAA corporate headquarters, a mysterious floating island off the coast of Newfoundland that few reporters have seen and even fewer have returned from with their sexual identities intact, GNAA "Head Programmer" timecop said he was glad to have Sims on hand. "From what I've seen of his postings on Slashdot," said timecop, "he's a total fag. Which is convenient as all our halfops need anal, and I can't handle the drama. That's what's worst about the net: the drama."
Sims has been involved in previous internet firefights, most notably the controversy over the censorware.org website in 2001. While Sims alleges that the site was his creation that was sabotaged by others, his coworkers disagree. Bennett Haselton, security consultant for the "Anarchy Anal" and "Chaos Cumshot" websites, said of Sims, "We set up this website, and left him the password. We have a disagreement, bam, the website goes down and someone raped my two-week-old Labrador puppy with an iPod."
Slashdot Editor CowboyNeal, who was entangled in a whale net after attempting to swim the English channel, spoke fondly of his former coworker. "Michael always brought a certain passion to the work, a passion that was easily ignited and led to many sweaty sessions in the corporate washroom," he said. "I'm not at all surprised he joined an organization of gay niggers. He always like something different and unique in his pasta salads."
Programmer Seth Finkelstein alleges that Sims is "totally unstable" and agreed readily to this interview. "Of course, I'm a disinterested observer," he said. "But anytime I see that closet psychopath and monkey nut-muncher stealing the spotlight from hardworking programmers like myself, I have to speak up, for the benefit of the people, of course," he said. Technews reporters were permitted to leave the premises only after making a PayPal donation to Finkelstein.
Mike Godwin of the EFF, who balances a career as privacy advocate with his hobby of making videos of teen swingers blowing goats, agreed. "I've never met another editor like Michael," he said. "And, since my regimen of retrovirals is already costing me a
10th year of "Year of Linux"
Happy birthday?
Share March 2 as a birthday! I'm 8 years older though.
Tim says: "please mod me up so my karma won't be terrible. Please?"
After the celebrations are you considering giving us a clean home page? Please YAHOO... its been long due
fuvoo: watch something
i hate myself
Wired is running an article this month in their magazine on Yahoo's! Tenth. http://www.wired.com/wired/ Sadly, it's not online yet, but will be soon.
Do Not Eat iPod Shuffle
Well this is fairly special, how exactly are they going to be celebrating? :)
-- Methynutnut
Yahoo, Apache, Ebay, Amazon, Netscape
One of these things is not the same kind.
Well hooray for a bunch of people who got to ride the .com bubble and get far richer than I'll ever be.
Yahoo, Apache, Ebay, Amazon, Netscape Celebrate 10 Year Anniversaries
um, did we not mention www.wonderbra.com?
google said it would celebrate its 10th annyversary too.
This also means I have been online 10 years. Wow. Where does the time go?
Oh yeah, multiplayer internet games!
Happy BD, to the lot of them. Interesting to see how some of them have grown into being huge companies (amazon), and continue to develop, others being manhandled by opposition (Netscape)illegaly, and yet others outdone by fair competition and still being in business (yahoo).
What is "relevant", Alex?
Does Netscape even really count anymore? They're no longer independent, nor are they even influential, for crying out loud.
The coolest voice ever.
"It's immensely more challenging to get to $10 billion in revenue than it was to get to $10 million in revenue," Filo said. "That's why we are still here today.
Sounds like tough work. How will they ever make enough to see ends meet.
Where have you gone, HomeGrocer.com and WebVan?
Bad boys rape our young girls but Violet gives willingly.
Sorry, but Yahoo has been around since January 1994.
I still have a 4 letter password on Yahoo mail.
Well than i think that we all shall wish "Happy Birthday" to these fine products.
Think like a hacker, act like a hacker, but never become a hacker !
hell, jerry's akabono.stanford.edu sumo wrestling site probably goes back even further.
Why don't people like Michael? Honestly, I never figured it out... And why did he leave slashdot? Does anyone know?
:P
And yes, this is off topic.. but I'm responding to a GNAA troll so that's pretty much unavoidable
I personally credit Filo with making open source accepted...when the market cap topped $150 billion (for a short time) it was hard to argue you could not make money with open source.
If you are going to use a fraction why not 3/5? But why use a fraction, why not just say 36 minutes? Something is not right here.
does anybody know what the most popular web-server was before apache?
Michael Sims honestly did leave Slashdot because of a personality difference. I don't know for sure if he has joined the GNAA for real but he has in the past show up on irc.gnaa.us #gnaa using the nickname "areems".
Happy BD to them. Its hard to believe that these websites have developed so much in the last 10 years. Just shows how fast the Internet is growing. Amazing!!!
I really want to know how exactly a site like Yahoo! makes money. Are click-thru ads really that profitable?
Someone explain this, I'm in the dark.
Sony ha
Which of those sites named above would you submit to his website?
I have to figure probably because he's gay. If you haven't noticed, the news-media is controlled by closet-case Rupert Murdock. He's been steering the country's eyes away from same-sex marriage and catholic-sponsered molestation. A secret underground movement that began shortly after the Puritan arrival in the New World strives daily to keep homo-hatred in the spotlight. In response, secret encoded messages delivered by satellite and internet (particularly in 'linux', it's versitile and populus distrobution selection offers a wide range of targets) have fueled the raving return of the once popular American pastime of Gay Rights Bashing. Continuing with this trend many stock market analysts have attributed the recent rise in Legal Liberian Tender being released by the Morgan Mint to the general public to be tied to the increase of Homo-Hatred. To put a long story short Michael was never much of a Puritan, he was a Quaker. Unfortunately, he often preferred to have eggs and bacon instead of his oatmeal (if you know what I mean) and could not continue in his mission of galactic conquest here at /. without seriously jeopardizing secrecy of the underground salt mining complex run by the starving children of Africa.
It's so damn simple.
From the MSNBC article: "Relative youngster Google has been lauded for reaching $1 billion in sales in just six years. Well, Amazon did it in four, Yahoo in five and eBay achieved it in seven. Compare those companies with Wal-Mart, which aged to 18 before it could slap the phrase, 'the billion dollar company' on its annual report; and McDonald's took 24 years to hit the benchmark."
Page and Brin of Google, Filo and Yang of Yahoo were in Stanford Ph. D. program; Jeff Bezos of Amazon graduated from Princeton (EE and CS); Pierre Omidyar, Ebay founder, went to Tufts (CS); Meg Whitman, CEO of Ebay, went to Princeton and Harvard. What's the lesson here? Hitting the books pays. I guess.
Sun and Fun
It wasn't as if we all woke up and one morning and decided to pick on Michael just for the hell of it.
The guy is a douche bag, that's all.
long time FreeBSD t4ere are of businees and
I guess we're here now, and we probably have been for some time - but that appears to have quietly slipped in while I wasn't looking.
Then I moved into a position with a company selling a solution with PAID FOR LICENSES of Netscape included. We were happy to pay the fee though, because it did things for us that simply didn't work otherwise on Windows 3.1(/1) - the choice of clients of my old employers...
Now, although I thought those large warrior women were around a bit longer ago than 10 years, at least I know what they are... but what's an "ebay"??
Here's my experience with Apache about (almost) ten years ago. I was working at a place where we were running NCSA httpd 1.3 on SunOS 4.1. Our web site had become more popular due to a news article or something. Performance was bad because NCSA httpd waited to receive a new TCP connection, and then forked a child to service that connection. The child served the request, then immediately exited. Not a horrible model when the web was some guy's fun little research project, but not optimal either.
So, we needed something better. I had heard about this new httpd called Apache, which had started off life as a series of patches to NCSA httpd. Hence the name: it was a-patchy-server. I thought the pun was mildly lame, but when I read the info on how it worked, I was impressed: here was an httpd that forked off N different httpd server children in advance and then communicated with them to assign tasks as TCP connections came in. It would start out with N of them, and if all N were busy at the time a new connection came in, it would create child N+1, and so on. Performance was supposed to be something like an order of magnitude better, and since it was a branch of NCSA httpd, it could read all our config files (although we'd want to tweak them a little to get good performance).
NCSA httpd 1.3 had been released, but no new changes had come from NCSA in a while, and these Apache people seemed to have gotten a lot accomplished in a short time, so I had a good feeling about them. So, I talked to my boss and suggested that this new Apache thingamabob might be the solution to all our problems.
He thought about it and decided he wasn't sure some obscure bunch of hotshot developers creating their own rogue branch from the well-respected NCSA code were the type of people we should expect to be around for long. He thought it'd be much safer to just wait for NCSA httpd 1.4, which was supposed to have its own pre-forking implementation. So we did.
A few years later, I had to look back and laugh that my boss was skeptical that this weird new Apache thing could ever catch on. But all in all, there was nothing wrong with his decision. He may've been a little too conservative, but a good system administrator makes decisions that will make the system work, and doesn't let the coolness factor of this or that technology sway him.
On the other hand, I get some satisfaction from looking back and knowing that my gut instinct was right on target.
On the other other hand, I get even more satisfaction from looking back and realizing I'm not a systems administrator anymore, and I've actually manage to escape to a different part of the technical universe (knock on wood). :-)
...program. I remember making my page with that A-River logo, and putting up books for sale. If I'd have stuck with it, who knows how much I'd have in terms of money and experience!
;)
Ah, to go back in time and tell myself then what I know now.
libertarianswag.com
What a coincidence!
I am also celebrating my tenth year anniversary of not celebrating tenth year anniversaries.
Slashdot Sig. version 0.1alpha. Use at your own risk.
they forgot to remove him from their About Slashdot page.
And don't forget, we would NOT have Firefox today, had it not been for Netscape.
That is the most hillarious thing I have ever read. Someone just made my friends list!
...whose remaining four employees will get trashed on listerine in the broom closet.
And let's not forget OpenBSD!
Like their website says: "Free, Functional & Secure - since 1995".
14 years of gopher !
no pop ups/downs/arounds/unders
no ads
no pictures
but it did have a clickable interface, and it might have been the beginning of the "everything I can see is the filesystem" revolution leading to the web browser/filesystem browser integration.
"Care of clothes/room at dismal low"
"Responsive to anger often violent and immediate"
"Will accept bathing schedule if it doesn't interfere with activities"
"Fears at a low ebb"
"Not yet aware of when they are tired and need to go to bed"
"Humor is corny, sometimes smutty"
"Interest span still somewhat short"
"Needs certain amount of liberty to move around"
"Concerned about fairness"
"Greatest difficulties in relation to siblings "
"Responsive to anger often violent and immediate"
Ones that may not apply:
"Still exhibits admiration for adults, teachers"
"Still needs considerable amount of supervision to get things done, needs clues to organization"
"Enjoys outdoor play activities, sports, collections, Cub Scouts, T.V., and video games" (well, except for the TV and Video Games)
"Enjoys listening to stories"
"Not necessarily a worker"
"Have sudden bursts of affection"
"Last age (for a while) when child goes happily on family outings"
I, for one, welcome our new dot-com overlords. To the few, the proud... those who didn't burst with the dot-com bubble.
tenth year of going out of busienss!
Ah, but it IS true. Or at least it was true at the time. If you don't believe me, take a look at the archive.org archives of the www.apache.org FAQ as of October 28, 1996, where it clearly says:
This is kind of an interesting development. I can see four possible explanations:
I have to say, at the very least, the current FAQ entry is so misleading that it's bordering on deceptive. If people who believe it stands for "A PAtCHy server" believe so incorrectly, the current FAQ ought to point out that the reason they believe that is that a previous version of the very same FAQ told them so!
I'm about the same age as the founders of some of these companies, and what do I have to show after a decade on the internet? One massive pr0n collection.
March 7, 1995, birth of the Portable Network Graphics (PNG) format.
links! :D
Dude it was a joke. Whoosh! Whoosh!
OMG I just into PhD at Cornell CS with full scholarship :-) lol!
Wait a minute here, you want me to click the link in your sig to help you get a limited slip differential for your BMW!? Because you want to redline the engine and drop the clutch? I think you should save up by kicking your hooker and blow habits, not begging slashdot. But shit, you got that BMW somehow, sign me up!
- Cary
--Fairfax Underground: Where Fairfax County comes out to play
10 years of working in web design this year. always thought it would be a passing fad and i would have to get a real job writing C or something too.
If it helps, I've been on the Internet more than ten years and I didn't get rich from the dot com bubble. Damn, I made the mistake of buying into the geeky net culture of making information and software available for free. Damn me for falling in with the wrong crowd. Why didn't I try some yuppie greed?!
Actually, from the first point I started recording my Internet experience (I was online maybe a year before that.), I've spent 10 years, 11 months, and 17 days on the Internet so far. Give or take a few hours a day to sleep and stuff.
At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
ok, so now the first post guy is celebrating his tenth anniversary, and bragging about it? ("hey, I got first post ten years ago! nah-nah-nah-nah boo-boo")
First five messages on the "new-httpd" archive:
1) fp?? ... profit...
2) First p0st!!!!
3) pirst fost
4) In Soviet Russia, Daemon posts you
5)
This has GOT to be the first GNAA post I've EVER seen modded Informative. Metamods, please wake the hell up. Smack the parent down to about -17 or so.
"No beer until you finish your tequila!" -Leela's Dad
10th year of dying.
After three months of owning the sportscar, a drunken uninsured pensioner ran a red light, smashed into a bus and ricocheted off into the front of my car.
The police turned up and breathtested and questioned both me and the idiot. Onlookers (there were many eyewitnesses) were shocked to see me get breathtested. They had seen that I was simply waiting at the lights.
The dudes who fixed my car took over two months to complete the work. I was screaming down the phone towards the end of that.
A few months later a woman tried to do a hit-n-run on me. Lucky I got her numberplate because my rear bumper and rear panel cost around $1800 to fix IIRC.
A year or so later, on a particularly windy night the entire roof and ceiling of the apartments next door came off and landed on my car. This one ended up being put down as "My Fault" because it was apparently an "Act of God(tm)". I had never realised before then that I was, indeed, God.
I just thought those little anecdotes might put a genuine smile on your dial at your time of woe and envy. You are most welcome.
Cheers
Stor
"Yeah well there's a lot of stuff that should be, but isn't"
anniversary: The yearly return of a noteworthy date. (Oxford English Dictionary)
(Please don't regale me with "one month anniversaries of your first date" you celebrated in high school.) This is worse than "very unique".
Brings back memories of my 10th birthday party.
paintball
Last Monday, February 21 (Presidents Day). My dad used to actually get both Washington and Lincoln's birthdays off but eventually that was changed to President's Day too.
Before that was Martin Luther King Jr. Day celebrated through much of the USA.
Of course, there's always Christmas (for some), and I'm sure other countries have kings or queens or saints or other people they like to have a good cheer about.
all in all I'd say a lot of people celebrate the birthdays of dead people worldwide. Unless they work in retail in the US, because then they probably have to go sell stuff to everyone else who isn't working.
Yahoo! is a portal, and search is a loss-leader.
They make money on premium services - email accounts, personal ads, auctions, fees on Yahoo merchants, etc. Having the search makes it easier for you to direct traffic to your premium services.
paintball
There are a number of things I could have chosen to write about in this letter. I could have chosen to write about how you don't need to look far to see that Slashdot has values that are antagonistic to a traditional, moral society. Or I might have chosen to write something about the way that its nostrums are not so much a nationalist as a neo-imperialist attempt to organize a whispering campaign against me. But, instead, I've decided to devote this entire letter to explaining how it is a cardinal principle that Slashdot's newsgroup postings are just an outcropping of its hatred of us. I guess I should start by saying that it is easy to see faults in others. But it takes perseverance to call for proper disciplinary action against Slashdot and its lickspittles. When a political condition of greed, massive corruption, and diversity of objective is coupled to a social condition of drugs, violence, and discontent, therein exists the perfect environment for Slashdot to make us dependent on surly, paltry adolescents for political representation, economic support, social position, and psychological approval. I'll try not to dwell on this, but if you're interested in the finagling, double-dealing, chicanery, cheating, cajolery, cunning, rascality, and abject villainy by which Slashdot may permit postmodernist vandals to rise to positions of leadership and authority sometime soon, then you'll want to consider the following very carefully. You'll especially want to consider that Slashdot says that everyone would be a lot safer if it were to monitor all of our personal communications and financial transactions -- even our library records. Why on Earth does Slashdot need to monitor our library records? A complete answer to that question would take more space than I can afford, so I'll have to give you a simplified answer. For starters, we have a dilemma of leviathan proportions on our hands: Should we plant markers that define the limits of what is unregenerate and what is not, or is it sufficient to punish those who lie or connive at half-truths? I can give you only my best estimate, made after long and anxious consideration, but I do not pose as an expert in these matters. I can say only that if we are powerless to build a new understanding that can transport us to tomorrow, it is because we have allowed Slashdot to remake the world to suit its own nerdy needs. Our attempts to warn the public against those malign nebbishes whose positive accomplishments are always practically nil, but whose conceit can scarcely be excelled, have so far served only as a divertissement for Slashdot and its dupes. Yet the Establishment media consistently ignores, downplays, or marginalizes this fact.
Slashdot backstabs its encomiasts, yet my motivations for writing this letter are not of insult or hatred, but of the deepest love for mankind and the truest concern for its future generations. This sort of vertiginous paradox is well known to most licentious wonks. How dare Slashdot destroy our youths' ability to relax, reflect, study, and meditate? If you read between the lines of Slashdot's smear tactics, you'll indisputably find that my aim is to enhance people's curiosity, critical acumen, and aesthetic sensitivity. Whatever weight we accord to that fact, we may be confident that it's really not bloody-mindedness that compels me to promote peace, prosperity, and quality of life, both here and abroad. It's my sense of responsibility to you, the reader. It's not easy for me to say this, but the choice we face as a nation is whether to run our country ourselves or let gutless, unbridled bozos run it for us. There, I said it. Now I can continue with my previous point, which is that to Slashdot's mind, its vices are the only true virtues. So that means that its blessing is the equivalent of a papal imprimatur, right? No, not right. The truth is that like a verbal magician, Slashdot knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak.
Although Slashdot wants a central organization for its inter
Ever heard of it?
Hate goths? - You will now!
Hmmm.
/me looks at www.hyperreal.org Hmm, so Apache was created by drugged up ravers? Well, that explains a lot... ;)
Suddenly, I feel old.
Software Wars
Congratulations!
You have been selected as the next target for destruction by the GNAA. You have no chance to survive make your time.
And Google Groups is always a lot of fun.. you can see Jeff Bezos asking some questions about marketing Amazon here, and even searching for developers here
I know somewhere the very first attempt at a bookstore by Jeff Bezos is still archived, but I can't remember where..
Never email donotemail@WeAreSpammers.com
...happy fucking something.
10th hour of this being the latest story on slashdot. Can we have a new one please?
Both Yahoo and Google are in the business of selling people to advertisers (who may be people, but are possibly also rats or other vermin). The more clicks to advertisers sites, and the more that advertiser's pages are seen, the more money the search engines make.
This translates into "the more time spent looking at and clicking on links from a search engine, the more money the search engine makes."
The goals are the same, the approach is different.
Use the same units for comparison, won't you? Otherwise, it's difficult to see that your argument makes sense. 36 minutes of an hour on google versus 4.8 hours per month.... Is that every hour for google? Or are you picking certain ones? How many hours a month?
My guess is that people are spending more time at Google per month than at Yahoo per month, and that because of this (among other reasons, i.e. this would be a reason if all other factors were equal), Google is generating more revenue.
Now if simplifying their interface led to more revenue...it might be worth looking into even if it shoots their current business model to pieces.
Mod me down and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!
Not a coincidence that it is also the year of Windows 95. While Win95 has been dwarfed by today's stability and functionality it is the way the vast majority of users first accessed the internet and I don't think Yahoo or Apache or the eventual Google would be around without it.
He did not retire. He was shitcanned for being a jackass.
-CmdrTaco
Everyone hated the guy, he did come across as a troll and with the internet policitcal bullshit it's entirely possible.
I like muppets.
He means he got "First Post"
Kevin
"It's not the cough that carries you off, it's the coffin they carry you off in" O. Nash
My guess is that is that it's 6/10ths of an hour per month on google, i.e. .6 hours per month.
Ewige Blumenkraft.
Reading this made me think back to my first order from Amazon. It was April 4, 1997 and was a used copy of The Spear of Mars edited by Reginald Bretnor.
Interestingly enough, it wasn't until Sep. 6, 1998 that the book shipped.
Anyone else care to share what/when you ordered first?
Successfully condensing fact from the vapor of nuance since 1998.
My personal home page reaches its ten-year anniversary on March 7th!
--Dan
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Google started similarly a few years later. It also was initially hosted at Stanford. It's address stared out as http://google.stanford.com/ (neither link is still live).
akebono.stanford.edu was the first url.