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Yahoo, Apache, Ebay, Amazon, Netscape Celebrate 10 Year Anniversaries
tagish writes "Roy Fielding writes on the Apache dev mailing list: 10 years ago today, the Apache Group decloaked with the creation
of the new-httpd archive and initial accounts on hyperreal.org.
I had the lucky timing of having the first message archived on
the list, though we had actually been talking about what to do
for at least a week before that (sadly, without any archives)." At the same time, Mike Porter simply writes "Yahoo celebrates its tenth anniversary on March 2nd." News about some other anniversaries available via an MSNBC article.
10th year of "Year of Linux"
After the celebrations are you considering giving us a clean home page? Please YAHOO... its been long due
fuvoo: watch something
Yahoo, Apache, Ebay, Amazon, Netscape
One of these things is not the same kind.
Well hooray for a bunch of people who got to ride the .com bubble and get far richer than I'll ever be.
Yahoo, Apache, Ebay, Amazon, Netscape Celebrate 10 Year Anniversaries
um, did we not mention www.wonderbra.com?
This also means I have been online 10 years. Wow. Where does the time go?
Oh yeah, multiplayer internet games!
Happy BD, to the lot of them. Interesting to see how some of them have grown into being huge companies (amazon), and continue to develop, others being manhandled by opposition (Netscape)illegaly, and yet others outdone by fair competition and still being in business (yahoo).
Bad boys rape our young girls but Violet gives willingly.
Sorry, but Yahoo has been around since January 1994.
Not anymore you don't
From the MSNBC article: "Relative youngster Google has been lauded for reaching $1 billion in sales in just six years. Well, Amazon did it in four, Yahoo in five and eBay achieved it in seven. Compare those companies with Wal-Mart, which aged to 18 before it could slap the phrase, 'the billion dollar company' on its annual report; and McDonald's took 24 years to hit the benchmark."
Page and Brin of Google, Filo and Yang of Yahoo were in Stanford Ph. D. program; Jeff Bezos of Amazon graduated from Princeton (EE and CS); Pierre Omidyar, Ebay founder, went to Tufts (CS); Meg Whitman, CEO of Ebay, went to Princeton and Harvard. What's the lesson here? Hitting the books pays. I guess.
Sun and Fun
Here's my experience with Apache about (almost) ten years ago. I was working at a place where we were running NCSA httpd 1.3 on SunOS 4.1. Our web site had become more popular due to a news article or something. Performance was bad because NCSA httpd waited to receive a new TCP connection, and then forked a child to service that connection. The child served the request, then immediately exited. Not a horrible model when the web was some guy's fun little research project, but not optimal either.
So, we needed something better. I had heard about this new httpd called Apache, which had started off life as a series of patches to NCSA httpd. Hence the name: it was a-patchy-server. I thought the pun was mildly lame, but when I read the info on how it worked, I was impressed: here was an httpd that forked off N different httpd server children in advance and then communicated with them to assign tasks as TCP connections came in. It would start out with N of them, and if all N were busy at the time a new connection came in, it would create child N+1, and so on. Performance was supposed to be something like an order of magnitude better, and since it was a branch of NCSA httpd, it could read all our config files (although we'd want to tweak them a little to get good performance).
NCSA httpd 1.3 had been released, but no new changes had come from NCSA in a while, and these Apache people seemed to have gotten a lot accomplished in a short time, so I had a good feeling about them. So, I talked to my boss and suggested that this new Apache thingamabob might be the solution to all our problems.
He thought about it and decided he wasn't sure some obscure bunch of hotshot developers creating their own rogue branch from the well-respected NCSA code were the type of people we should expect to be around for long. He thought it'd be much safer to just wait for NCSA httpd 1.4, which was supposed to have its own pre-forking implementation. So we did.
A few years later, I had to look back and laugh that my boss was skeptical that this weird new Apache thing could ever catch on. But all in all, there was nothing wrong with his decision. He may've been a little too conservative, but a good system administrator makes decisions that will make the system work, and doesn't let the coolness factor of this or that technology sway him.
On the other hand, I get some satisfaction from looking back and knowing that my gut instinct was right on target.
On the other other hand, I get even more satisfaction from looking back and realizing I'm not a systems administrator anymore, and I've actually manage to escape to a different part of the technical universe (knock on wood). :-)
And don't forget, we would NOT have Firefox today, had it not been for Netscape.
...whose remaining four employees will get trashed on listerine in the broom closet.
And let's not forget OpenBSD!
Like their website says: "Free, Functional & Secure - since 1995".
"Care of clothes/room at dismal low"
"Responsive to anger often violent and immediate"
"Will accept bathing schedule if it doesn't interfere with activities"
"Fears at a low ebb"
"Not yet aware of when they are tired and need to go to bed"
"Humor is corny, sometimes smutty"
"Interest span still somewhat short"
"Needs certain amount of liberty to move around"
"Concerned about fairness"
"Greatest difficulties in relation to siblings "
"Responsive to anger often violent and immediate"
Ones that may not apply:
"Still exhibits admiration for adults, teachers"
"Still needs considerable amount of supervision to get things done, needs clues to organization"
"Enjoys outdoor play activities, sports, collections, Cub Scouts, T.V., and video games" (well, except for the TV and Video Games)
"Enjoys listening to stories"
"Not necessarily a worker"
"Have sudden bursts of affection"
"Last age (for a while) when child goes happily on family outings"
NCSA.
http://www.apache.org/history/timeline.html
The Apache HTTP server was an evolution, not a revolution.
Ah, but it IS true. Or at least it was true at the time. If you don't believe me, take a look at the archive.org archives of the www.apache.org FAQ as of October 28, 1996, where it clearly says:
This is kind of an interesting development. I can see four possible explanations:
I have to say, at the very least, the current FAQ entry is so misleading that it's bordering on deceptive. If people who believe it stands for "A PAtCHy server" believe so incorrectly, the current FAQ ought to point out that the reason they believe that is that a previous version of the very same FAQ told them so!
Trebek: And the categories are: Potents Potable, Sharp Things, Navigators that end with "etscape navigator", A Petit Dejeuner, Animal Sounds, Condiments and finally Your Ass or a Hole in The Ground.
Reynolds: Yeah I'll take the alien thing for 8000.
Trebek: That's etscape... for 400.
March 7, 1995, birth of the Portable Network Graphics (PNG) format.
ok, so now the first post guy is celebrating his tenth anniversary, and bragging about it? ("hey, I got first post ten years ago! nah-nah-nah-nah boo-boo")
First five messages on the "new-httpd" archive:
1) fp?? ... profit...
2) First p0st!!!!
3) pirst fost
4) In Soviet Russia, Daemon posts you
5)
Ever heard of Google?
No way! Google was not around before Apache. And I don't think they were ever a web server either!
Geez, n00b!
I'm sure I can prove it... let me see, how could I research this...
Oh wait...
And Google Groups is always a lot of fun.. you can see Jeff Bezos asking some questions about marketing Amazon here, and even searching for developers here
I know somewhere the very first attempt at a bookstore by Jeff Bezos is still archived, but I can't remember where..
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