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Google Weather Service And GMail Improvements

Philipp Lenssen writes "Google has added US-only weather forecasts to their web search. Type e.g. "weather palo alto, ca" (zip codes work too) and you get a small illustrated weather forecast on top of the search result. (Yahoo has been providing a similar service for quite a while.) You can also send your query as SMS to 46645 (GOOGL), as the official Google blog reports." Relatedly, Shachaf writes "Looking at my GMail account, I see that Google has added two new features: integration with Picasa and plain HTML support. Now you can 'Log in to Gmail directly from Picasa and send the photos from your Gmail account', and view your email from any web-browser."

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  1. You misunderstand Google Weather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google isn't forecasting the weather, they're controlling it.

    1. Re:You misunderstand Google Weather by game+kid · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wouldn't mind that, as long as they have a cache of good weather during storms. Or at least alert GMail users.

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    2. Re:You misunderstand Google Weather by pbaumgar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      not anymore scary than what everyone already knows about you already... talk to your bank, your credit card company, your insurance company, your doctor, your mortgage company, your landlord, your employer, your airline of choice, etc.....

  2. Coverage of New Gmail Feature by sammykrupa · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here is a link to screenshots and coverage of the new plain-html-only-view Gmail has gotten:

    http://www.theplaceforitall.com/2005/03/report-on- gmails-basic-html-view.html

    1. Re:Coverage of New Gmail Feature by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It does on Mozilla 1.8b2. There are two ways:

      1. click the link at the top with the notice: "You are currently viewing Gmail in basic HTML. Switch to standard view"
      2. click the standard link in the text at the bottom: "Gmail view: standard | basic HTML"

    2. Re:Coverage of New Gmail Feature by gmuslera · · Score: 2, Informative

      Tried with links and w3m (not the latest versions, anyway) and it reported me that my browser don't support cookies (?). But was a pleasure to read gmail with elinks in a console ssh session.

  3. Looks nice by nefele · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But does anyone know how to make it display the temperature in Celsius degrees? Not everyone in the US knows how to interpret this horrible abomination that is the Fahrenheit scale...

    1. Re:Looks nice by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, use google "Convert (degrees)F to C) and it converts it.

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    2. Re:Looks nice by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sure - open up your phones calculator, subtract 32 and multiply the results by 5/9ths.

      Or to do it on your head - subract the accerleration of gravity and take 1/2 of the result - a good quick and dirty.

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    3. Re:Looks nice by rbarreira · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You managed to confuse me because of units again lol. In the units used by all physics, the acceleration of gravity is 9.8, commonly rounded to 10.

      So I had to google it and concluded you were using feet/second...

      On the other hand, a bonus to you americans for having a power of 2 as g's value :)

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    4. Re:Looks nice by rbarreira · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or maybe the US could start trying to use standard units. Hey, if it's bad for someone is just you guys, especially the scientists and engineers...

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    5. Re:Looks nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
      ...and Celsius isn't arbitrary?

      Ooo I'll bite the troll for this one.

      Celsius is in fact, NOT arbitrary. Celsius is a scale where the phase change of water sets the zero (freeing) and 100 (boiling) marks.

      Kelvin and Celsius are the same scale, but Kelvin has the zero set at the absolute point (-273 deg C).

    6. Re:Looks nice by jez9999 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Isn't that a more stupid and complex measurement, not particularly useful for any kind of scientific reference, than just using pure water?

    7. Re:Looks nice by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 2
      But does anyone know how to make it display the temperature in Celsius degrees? Not everyone in the US knows how to interpret this horrible abomination that is the Fahrenheit scale...

      Why is it such an abomination? Because you're not used to it? I use metric all the time (scientist) and live in the US. The Fahrenheit scale is the only imperial scale that doesn't annoy me. The only difference between it and centigrade is 1) the zero point, and 2) the increment density. Centigrade is based on water, which is somewhat arbitrary, and Fahrenheit is density.

      You sound like most of the dimwitted Americans who can't figure out what a liter is.

    8. Re:Looks nice by DrSkwid · · Score: 2, Funny

      What are liters, are they like litres ?

      =)

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    9. Re:Looks nice by J.+T.+MacLeod · · Score: 2

      Furthermore, with integer degrees, Fahrenheit gives more precision.

      Those of us who made it far enough in school to use decimal notation are quite pleased with the sensibility and utility of Celsius, thank you.

    10. Re:Looks nice by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually the reason Fahrenheit has such "odd" numbers, is that the two points you chose have no baring on how it was scaled.

      As I understand it (and there are numerous ides on how it was done), 0 was chosen as the freezing point of salt water (as in what you find in the local ocea). That's fine and all.

      The oddity comes from where he set 100 to be. The natural temperature of a healthy horses blood.

      Now, that's as natural a set of points as night and grass.

      If he had chosen two points on the same items temperature scale, then it'd be a lot simpler. He didn't, so it's not.

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    11. Re:Looks nice by Dizzle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That is such an American-centric view that I feel compelled to comment. Remove the "USA! USA!" from your comment for a second. A minor fraction of the world (5% if google is right) uses a temperature scale. Fine. Now, should the other 95% need an excuse to not know that 5%? I mean seriously, can you not put aside your patriotism and realize that just because the good ol' US of A uses it doesn't mean everyone else should be obliged to use it? If I set up a temperature scale based on how long it takes a lamp to reach a certain temperature, would I be justified in saying "Just because we should switch doesn't give people an excuse to not know how we currently do things." Think about that for a second.

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    12. Re:Looks nice by spike2131 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not everyone in the US knows how to interpret this horrible abomination that is the Fahrenheit scale...

      What, did you skip that day in the third grade?

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    13. Re:Looks nice by MMMDI · · Score: 3, Funny

      0F = It's freezing cold outside. Good think you're sitting on your computer with the heater cranked up.

      50F = It's quite nice outside (though you may want to wear a light jacket), but you don't know such since you're sitting on the computer reading /..

      100F = You could fry an egg on the sidewalk. Thankfully, you're inside on the computer with the A/C cranked up.

      There, we now have a foolproof conversion chart.

  4. Microsoft also have one in beta test... by sandstorming · · Score: 5, Funny

    My area is currently blue in the satellite photo... with a combo box error shaped cloud passing over me.

  5. yes but it pales in comparision to NOAA by bsdpanix · · Score: 5, Informative

    The National Weather Service at noaa.gov is excellent. Detailed local forecasts with NO ads.

  6. Here's a cache by imag0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just in case you need it...

    Clickie!

  7. Google maps by rbarreira · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This should be even more interesting when they integrate it with Google Maps :)

    Am I the only one who dislikes having to do a search to get some information? Of course it can be bookmarked but it just feels a little weird. Maybe it's just a matter of habit...

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  8. Yahoo copying Google again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yahoo has been providing a similar service for quite a while.)

    Here we go again, Google innovating and everybody else copying them and claiming to be innovative. As usual.

  9. Google weather: zip codes work by imag0 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Looks like zip codes work as well. Nice.

    Here's mine, 64119.

  10. Re:Ah Gmail, now if only... by rbarreira · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There are folders. They're called labels, and do everything folders do, plus some more things (a message can belong to several labels)...

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  11. Re:so what? by Nuclear+Elephant · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think that's quite true. You log into a portal and all that crap is surrounding what it is you really want to get accomplished. Google, on the other hand, is a simple and elegant interface where you only get what you ask for. If you're not looking for the weather, it's not going to clutter your screen with it. Now if only they could make my weather report accurate (it says we're having thunderstorms all day, but it's sunny and clear - typical forecast).

  12. Konqueror by bogaboga · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am happy that Gmail/Google have listened and added support for the Konqueror. Or, is it that the KDE programmers have added support for Gmail? I say this because I am now using KDE's latest Konqueror release candidate (3.4rc1) which works on Gmail just like other browsers do. Any Slashdotter sees this as positive I know.

  13. lazy cuss that I am... by jpellino · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just sent a suggestion that they make "wx" interchangeable with "weather" as in "wx 02134" or "wx boston, ma"

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  14. In-line signalling can be bad by Eternally+optimistic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't like the method of well-meaning interference with a search. When you enter "weather east podunk, NY" they first give you the current weather - with very little knowledge that this is what you are looking for. It's just as likely you are looking for historical climate data, or your friend Karl Weather living in Podunk. This clutters up search results, and adds another kind of meaning to the search words. It has all the disadvantages of in-band signalling, and the signalling isn't even defined for the user.

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    1. Re:In-line signalling can be bad by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you're looking for historical climate data, "weather" is about the vaguest search term you could pick. No sympathy from me (or i suspect google) if you don't get what you were looking for.

      Google, if anyone, is in a position to say "hey when people search for 'weather' and a city they often want weather reports"

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  15. Is it just me... by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...or is Google becoming a jack-of-all-trades and master of none? Remember when Google focused on their search engine? Yeah, me neither.

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  16. Re:Ah Gmail, now if only... by aleclee · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's what the "Archive" feature is for. It'll appear under the label and under "All Mail" but not in your inbox.

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  17. New features and the final frontier by saitoh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One thing I submitted a while ago was the ability to import your POP3 box (say from Outlook, or Apple Mail), thus make that transition to webmail and still have all your stuff which seems to be a real focus for google.

    It seems that nobody really has solved the email transferal problem have they? (please correct me if I'm wrong) And while I'm biased, it would be an interesting marketing ploy for those who wanted to switch, one that Apple has used with Apple Mail.

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  18. Why can't they add it to my home Google? by Drunken_Jackass · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's what i'd like to see. Your default google.com page would display your weather, and a check box for a local.google search. I mean you can save your location preference in local.google already. And how hard would a link to gmail be? And news? Why not display the top headline for categories that you choose? Why not put everything you want together? Put some settings in our preferences, and call it what it's becoming - a Portal.

    Then again, i don't consider google a "portal". Wired just had an article about google vs. Yahoo!. It's quite an interesting read.

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    1. Re:Why can't they add it to my home Google? by recursiv · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No no no no no.

      One of the reason google has stomped all over the competition is they keep their interfaces simple. Adding that stuff would multiply the size of the front page. Furthermore if you really wanted that feature, it would be pretty simple to hack up some php that use the google apis or just scrape the relevant pages for the data and format it however you want.

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  19. For Firefox users... by rbarreira · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is quite cool, but I still prefer the ForecastFox extension for now.

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  20. Not only SMS by The+Hobo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You can also use a web browser and send your queries to google by visiting them at http://466453.com/

    (GOOGLE on the telephone)

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  21. Is it just me... by webcrawler · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... or am I the only one who's been logging into gmail through Picasa and sending pics? If I understood correctly, this particular feature has been offered ever since Picasa 2 came out.

  22. google omniscience by Ragica · · Score: 2, Funny
    It's uncanny. It's like google can read all of our minds and somehow, by some magical insight beyond merely mortal, knows what we want... it's like they have some sort of vast complex engine that we can only just barely begin to imagine which is able to tell them everything before anyone else. It's astonishing, unsettling, and and inexplicable... unless... no, it can't be. But what other explanation could there be?

    Is God working for google now?

  23. Gmail beta forever by teslatug · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When is Google going to "release" Gmail to the public? I know that for all intents and purposes anyone that wants to can get an account, but I won't consider it open until I see a link on their homepage. It's not like they couldn't have a beta and a released Gmail.

    On an aside, I have a feeling that they will have to redesign their homepage soon as it's starting to get crowded.

    1. Re:Gmail beta forever by generic-man · · Score: 2, Funny

      Google now provides financial information*, weather, news*, mail, product reviews*, movie reviews*, photo-hosting services, maps, directions, instant messaging, and discussion groups. They are rumored to be planning tons of new services, based on highly coagular reports from numerous blogs.

      I hear they're trying a new home page design. It's in beta now. You can find it here.

      * By "provides" I mean "links to others' content about."

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  24. Re:trolls suck my dick by rbarreira · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, you wouldn't have to think about two scales when you were doing some decent scientific or engineering work...

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  25. Re:heh Gmail... by zootm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You know, I prefer GMail's "labels" metaphor for mail to the "folders" metaphor used by most mail clients (and IMAP). I find it easier to organise and find my emails through the GMail interface than through Thunderbird.

  26. Google: GUI vs CLI by malarkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's interesting that Google is taking the CLI approach, which gives a lot of functionality without adding clutter to the interface.

    Slashdot users, as a whole, might be more comfortable with that approach than the GUI approach, like Yahoo.

    At what point does Google make a Yahoo-style frontend for the "newbie" users, just as an option, of course.

  27. Who cares? by shawn.fox · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seriously, this isn't a troll. Why are such trivial features of google search such a big deal that they make the front page of slashdot? The poster even points out that Yahoo! already has this feature.

  28. Re:trolls suck my dick by Maserati · · Score: 2, Informative

    Scientists use Kelvin so comparisons work. Celsius is pegged to 0 at water's freezing point, Kelvin is pegged at absolute zero - below the freezing points of hydrogen and helium. That way you can compare ratios of temperature: 10 deg. C sounds twice as warm as 5 degrees (and feels that way), but to a scientist the ratio isn't 2:1, it's 283:278 - a much smaller ratio. This comes in play in things like gas pressure, which is proportional to absolute temperature.

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  29. Gmail's forced "basic HTML view" - and a solution by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google's latest changes to Gmail include the introduction of a "basic HTML view" for people who's browsers cannot display the default view properly. This includes MSIE 4.0+ (pre 5.5), Netscape 4.07+ (pre 7.1), and Opera 6.03+, which previously couldn't be used to access Gmail.

    Unfortunately, the new browser detection code they are now using seems to have been put together in a rather sloppy manner, which means (amongst others) Opera 8.0 users are forced to this "basic HTML view" when the fully-featured default view works perfectly well with that version of Opera. (Indeed, one of the many new features of Opera 8.0 is XMLHttpRequest support, which allows Gmail to work in full.)

    Any Opera 8.0 user who logs into Gmail as usual will no longer be able to do some basic things, including create filters, amend their settings, check spelling, access keyboard shortcuts and autocomplete addresses. Fortunately, there is a workaround, which is to use the URL http://gmail.google.com/gmail?nocheckbrowser, which solves the issue.

    This issue doesn't only affect Opera 8.0 users: users of MSIE 6.x, Camino and other browsers have reported the same problem on the relevant Google group. I don't use any of those browsers but I'm fairly sure that the same workaround will work for them too.

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  30. Google playing catch-up? by GoogleAdvisor · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While looking through all of the recent services Google has added, it occured to me that they really haven't come up with anything original - I mean, all these new services, weather included, have already been nearly mastered by Yahoo! It almost seems like Google is playing catch-up with Yahoo!. The question is, are they taking away resources from their foundamental goal of building a simple, powerful search engine, in order to create these fairly unnecessary additions? Google Advisor

  31. Re:heh Gmail... by say · · Score: 2, Informative

    Then you could use evolutions vfolders, which work pretty much like labels.

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  32. Poor HTML coding by neoform · · Score: 3, Interesting

    i would have thought Google would have better HTML than that.. "" i got 40 errors with the W3 Validator.

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    1. Re:Poor HTML coding by ceejayoz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Google has never shown much interest in validating code.

      Even the Firefox Start page they host doesn't validate.

      They probably save untold gigabytes just by not putting a doctype, type attributes, alt tags, etc.

    2. Re:Poor HTML coding by JimDabell · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They probably save untold gigabytes just by not putting a doctype, type attributes, alt tags, etc.

      Doubtful; last time I looked, there were plenty of other places they could save on bandwidth easily and they don't bother. Mistakes in HTML are usually due to ignorance or apathy, not bandwidth reduction. You don't have to look very far to find a prime example :).

    3. Re:Poor HTML coding by eyeye · · Score: 2, Funny

      i would have thought Google would have better HTML than that.. "" i got 40 errors with the W3 Validator.

      Tip:
      when you are critisizing some sites lack of HTML validator compliance first ensure your own piss poor (validation wise i mean) site is actually correct!
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    4. Re:Poor HTML coding by Reziac · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And personally, I don't give a damn if it's "valid code" or not, so long as it works in every browser.

      I just checked GMail with my *preferred* Netscape 3.04 (js and images off) and it worked great, plus was much faster -- and considerably more *readable* (the JS version has some annoying width errors that force sidescrolling in Mozilla).

      I can now recommend GMail to my visually-impaired and hardware-challenged users, with every expectation that it will work fine for them.

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    5. Re:Poor HTML coding by JimDabell · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Where do you see that they could save bandwidth but aren't bothering?

      Look at a results page, for example. They could eliminate over 1K per page load simply by moving the CSS and Javascript into external resources.

      I'm sure you're thinking "but the client has to download them anyway". Not from Google. Google is that popular, and the resources change that infrequently, that virtually every shared cache in existence would keep a copy of the resource, meaning Google would effectively cease serving it from their servers almost entirely.

      Even if that weren't the case, Google would still come out ahead in the bandwidth stakes for every visitor that loads more than a single page, as the presentation would be shared across multiple pages, yet only downloaded once.

      Embedding the CSS in the (not publically cachable) HTML documents means that every visitor has to download the unchanging presentation for every page load individually.

      Maybe they could probably also use stylesheets to save some, but that might get in the way of the goal of having Google render properly in EVERY browser.

      They already use CSS. They could save even more bandwidth by dropping the <font> elements, which would mean that Internet Explorer 2 and Netscape Navigator 3 wouldn't be quite so colourful.

  33. Re:what? by RevMike · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sooner or later, if you like it or not, the US will be metric country as well.

    No we won't. It's not that there's anything wrong with metric, it's just that Carter tried to do it. If a useful president had tried, we'd be done by now.

    Actually, we're already a metric country in any way that matters. Does miles per hour on a highway sign or measuring a recipe in cups and tablespoons really matter all that much. HELL NO!. What matters is machine tools, and they've been converting over for quite a while now. What matters is that a transmission manufactured in Detroit can be mated to an engine block manufactured in Japan.

  34. Google doesn't focus on their search engine? by hkmwbz · · Score: 2, Informative
    "Remember when Google focused on their search engine?"
    Yeah. They just had a major update, which basically got rid of most spam results when searching for stuff. Try searching for graphics cards. You used to get lots of "buy from..." links. Now, the results show actual reviews and useful information.

    So yeah, I remember when Google focused on their search engine. My short term memory isn't that bad.

    I guess your short term memory is terrible, then?

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  35. Re:While we're talking about google... by mabu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Did it ocurr to you that Google has been public since it made invites available? It's a brilliant scheme to offer invites mainly via referrals. This allows Google to build a huge "degree of separation" database between people and use it for data mining. When Google knows who your friends are, and who their friends are, this becomes an extremely powerful markting and research tool.

  36. Re:Gmail's forced "basic HTML view" - and a soluti by JimDabell · · Score: 2, Informative

    Unfortunately, the new browser detection code they are now using seems to have been put together in a rather sloppy manner

    They shouldn't be detecting the browser at all. It's fragile, it breaks with unusual browsers, and you have to keep updating the detection routines whenever a new browser comes out. It's Javascript straight out of the 1990s.

    The proper way of doing it is to detect objects not browsers. If you need XMLHttpRequest, first check to see if XMLHttpRequest is defined. If so, use it. If not, try instantiating it the Microsoft way. If you get the object, use it. Otherwise, give the user the fallback plain HTML version. You don't need to worry about which browser is being used, so long as it supports the APIs you use, and new browsers, or browsers that you haven't heard of, work automatically without you having to alter your code to accommodate them.

  37. Re:What's interesting is the discrepancies by johncel · · Score: 2, Informative

    The problem with Anchorage zip codes will be corrected shortly. That's a good catch.

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  38. How revolutionary! by duffbeer703 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Prodigy did this back in like 1989. Google rocks

    Next Google will rollout the next revolution: "keywords"

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  39. Gmail lost all of my January email by freelunch · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I logged in on January 30 to find that all of my inbox mail for the month of January was gone. It wasn't in my trashcan, etc.

    I exchanged emails at a Very slow rate with gmail staff. Mostly just responding to their form letters and taking whatever action they requested.

    Not until nearly a month later, on Feb 24, did I receive the following pathetic response:

    Hello,

    Thank you for your reply.

    We have completed a thorough investigation of your Gmail account, and can
    confirm that a technical problem did not cause the behavior you reported.
    We apologize for any inconvenience you might have experienced.

    Sincerely,

    The Gmail Team


    I have never lost email on Yahoo or Hotmail.

    The good news? I have 100 gmail invites.

  40. Works with Lynx!! by cytoman · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Nobody seems to have noticed this... gmail now works with text-only browsers like Lynx ! :-).
    Now, that is COOL!

    Neither Yahoo nor Hotmail have this feature!

  41. Beating spam the Gmail way by NaDrew · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I guess this is as good a thread as any to post about how I'm beating spam in my personal inbox using Gmail's powerful filtering, without changing my email address.

    Gmail now offers every member 50 invites. Millions of users and the power of a single spam database have made Gmail's spam filter one of the best. Gmail also offers POP3/SMTP access to the service. Combined, these provide a perfect method to utilize Gmail's powerful spam filtering on my primary email address--without the trouble and fuss of actually changing addresses. Here's how I did it.
    1. Create a new Gmail account, using an invitation from one of my existing accounts.
    2. In the "Forwarding and POP" tab of the "Settings" section, set the following:
      • Disable forwarding (default)
      • Enable POP for all mail
      • When messages are accessed with POP, archive Gmail's copy
    3. Redirect your primary email account to your new Gmail account. Note that this usually requires administrative access to your mail server, or a friendly mail administrator.
    4. Configure your email client (Here are settings for Opera's M2 mail client). Note that I am using my existing SMTP settings, and am only using Gmail for POP3.
    Now mail coming in to your primary account is automatically bounced to your Gmail account, where the Gmail spam filters are applied. Then your mail client downloads your mail from Gmail to your local inbox, just like normal. Since you didn't change your outbound settings, replies and new mail are not affected.

    I set this up a couple of weeks ago and so far Gmail has filtered almost every spam message I would have received. That's spam I didn't download!

    You'll want to log in to the new Gmail account once a week or once a month to check the spam folder. This is just to check for false positives--"good" messages which may have been filtered as spam. It won't happen often but it's worth checking once in a while to make sure.
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