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Google Adds Features and Plugin to Desktop Search

Matthew Bischoff writes "Today Google added new features to its popular desktop software. Google Desktop now supports alternative Netscape based browsers like Firefox, PDFs, images, video, and music files. Google also added a plug-ins feature so that developers can integrate their software into the Google Desktop catalog. Another new addition is a supported way to search from Google's deskbar software. It's probably a matter of time until we see desktop search integrated into all of the Google products including the controversial Google Toolbar 3." Google Desktop is also officially now out of beta.

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  1. Other new google things by panic911 · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you go to toolbar.google.com in firefox (or Netscape, I assume), they now promote the open-source googlebar extension for Firefox. They also offer a toolbar 3.x beta for IE now.

    Also, they have setup a download page where you can grab individual download packages, or all of their packages in one zip file. www.google.com/downloads/

    And of course there was the slashdot article, the other day describing the new Weather feature and Gmail Improvements.

  2. Great! by B3ryllium · · Score: 4, Funny

    Great! Now if only IE and Windows were out of beta, we'd be set.

  3. Is Microsoft out of the loop? by tabkey12 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Who wants WinFS in 2 or 3 years when you can have Google Desktop Search now, for free?

    Also, good to see Google isn't doing an eternal beta on this product like its Google News offering (the whole beta thing gets annoying after 2 continuous years!)

    1. Re:Is Microsoft out of the loop? by PxM · · Score: 4, Informative

      Also, good to see Google isn't doing an eternal beta on this product like its Google News offering (the whole beta thing gets annoying after 2 continuous years!)

      That's a legal issue. If Google starts making money from other news sites without actually paying them, then they risk legal action for use of copyrighted material. Right now, they have no ads because this (in theory) puts them in the fair use section

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  4. So is there a catch ? by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    So is there any catch to their desktop tool ?
    I assume they're not risking their "don't do any bad "-policy for this ?

    So what -is- the catch ?
    I am fedup with using the regurlar search in Windows, so I am defenitely in for some improvement.

  5. Re:Controversial Toolbar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Beta versions so far have featured a prominent image of Janet Jackson's bared breast as an interface element

  6. Bad Idea by FzArEkTaH · · Score: 4, Insightful
    It's bad enough my tech-retarded roomate try's to find my pr0n when he "goin on ebay" with this the desktop search he may actually be able to find something

    No thanks i'm keepin it off my machine!

  7. Spellcheck and PDF by JaxWeb · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think most Slashdotters will be pleased (or at least would be, if they used IE) with the new Spellcheck feature on the Google Toolbar. That's a pretty cool feature.

    The ability to search PDF's seems like it could be useful if it is actually searching inside the PDF. I haven't actually seen another Windows based tool do that, so for me this could make Google Desktop more than the "toy" it is (for me) at the moment (It doesn't do anything a structured file system cannot).

    So good improvements. I can't see what is so controversial about the toolbar though.

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  8. I believe by chachob · · Score: 5, Funny
    Google Desktop now supports alternative Netscape based browsers like Firefox
    You mean Firefox-based browsers like Netscape, right? (I know, I know)
  9. Built in spellcheck. by PxM · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Google Toolbar now has a spell check built it. Now if it only had a feature that would electricute the user everytime he wrote something in 1337.

    1. Re:Built in spellcheck. by Liselle · · Score: 5, Funny
      The Google Toolbar now has a spell check built it. Now if it only had a feature that would electricute the user everytime he wrote something in 1337.
      What would it do to people who mis-spell words like "electrocute"? Maybe stahb them with a nife, or chute them with a gunn?
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  10. Controversial? Misunderstood Is More Like It. by TheFlyingGoat · · Score: 5, Informative

    The only reason the Google Toolbar 3 is controversial is because Slashdotters haven't taken the time to look at how it really works. Most think that the Autolink feature creates links that weren't put there by the page's creator (automatically linking an address to Google maps, for instance). In reality, you have to visit a page then click the Autolink button. It's automatic in a semi-automatic gun kind of way. Sure, it's doing a lot of stuff on its own, but it needs you to start telling it to do so before it starts. Not controversial since it's use is optional.

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  11. Still requires admin rights to use by Kagami001 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Google Desktop Search can only be used when the account from which it was installed is logged in."

    Yep, that lovely message is still there when I try to use it in my main work account.
    Oh, well. Maybe next time.

  12. Re:Why? Whats it for? Whats it do by lelitsch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Find every occurence of a name in 400MB worth of email in less than a second. Something that crashes Eudora and takes forever in Outlook.

  13. Re:Why? Whats it for? Whats it do by typobox43 · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is a plugin for this new version of Google Desktop search that allows you to specify additional file extensions to search as text files - for example, your .c and .h files.

  14. Re:Controversial Toolbar? by northcat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's controversial because some idiots can't tell the difference between an enabled-by-default feature on the default browser on a monopoly OS and a disabled-by-default feature on an optional additional program.

  15. Re:Why? Whats it for? Whats it do by Martin+Blank · · Score: 5, Informative

    It finds files by content, and much faster than does the Windows search. Without indexing on, Windows must search every file individually. With the caching on, it's somewhat faster, but still abysmally slow compared to Google's search. There were some very painful limitations until now, particularly the lack of PDF searches. I'm hoping that there will be some ability to customize the searches somewhat further to allow for searching straight text files like .c, .h, or .php.

    Google's search utility uses a variant of their own caching technology to make searches much faster. The new plug-in technology will allow someone to make add-ons for searching code.

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  16. The real news here by jals · · Score: 5, Funny

    People seem to be overlooking the real news contained in this story: a Google product actually out of beta. Surely a first?

  17. Re:Controversial Toolbar? by david.given · · Score: 5, Funny
    Beta versions so far have featured a prominent image of Janet Jackson's bared breast as an interface element

    No, they want to attract users.

  18. Re:google: the next Msft? by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why am I supposed to like them, exactly?

    You're not supposed to. However, I can tell you why other people like Google: because they make cool shit that's easy to use and useful as hell.

    Frankly I prefer the honesty of a spam

    Awww shit... looks like I'm feeding a troll here.

    I'm not sure what Google is trying to do.

    Make money?

    GMail, no thanks. I DO NOT WANT CONTEXT-RELATED ADS EMBEDDED INTO MY EMAIL.

    Embedded? Nope, they appear on the right side of the screen, similar to other free-mail service banner ads. So either you haven't used it, or you don't like the idea that their algorithm might actually find something you'd like to buy based on your email. I mean, I can't see how someone who understands how the technology works would be afraid of using it.

    Desktop Search, no thanks: I DO NOT WANT CONTEXT-RELATED ADS EMBEDDED INTO MY DESKTOP.

    Embedded in your desktop? I installed Google Desktop just now. It shows an icon in the bar near the time. No ads on my desktop. Perhaps you meant the desktop SEARCH RESULTS? Nope, none there, either. Sure, they may add some someday, but it doesn't bother me.

    Then again, I don't expect to get everything cool for free. Yet Google surprises me most of the time on that front.

    My desktop is not for sale as advertising space. If it were, then the revenue generated from it should be MINE, not Googles.

    In other words, the services Google provides are worth nothing to you. That is fine, you don't have to use Google. However, I find it strange that someone would be pissed off that a commercial company might offer services in exchange for advertising revenue.

    Have you been living on Earth long?

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  19. Re:Why? Whats it for? Whats it do by mstra · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The more I've played with this, the more useful it's been. It's not been terribly useful on my home PC...but at work, it's a godsend.

    For example: I did a GDS search for the name of a server I was building last week.

    Bam. I got every document I had about that server. The online change requests. The service requests to site engineering. The operational handbook I wrote. The inventory spreadsheet.

    Wow. That was pretty cool.

    I also found out that while GDS doesn't index networked drives/shares, it *will* include documents on the network that you have opened in its search results. That was pretty good too.

    It's also useful on a couple of our intranet sites. Just this morning I had to find a change request for a server - using the search mechanism of our change system is difficult at best - but because I could search it in Google, it came up right away.

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  20. Re:You want to know what the catch is? by I.M.Anonymous · · Score: 5, Informative

    Google's privacy policies state that:
    1.) Any information on you is fair game.
    2.) They will happily turn over any information they have on you at any government request.
    3.) Your Gmail may reside on their servers indefinitely, even after you delete it. This may also be "indexed" on their servers and the contents read at any time.


    Since you claim that this information is in Google's privacy policy, can you provide a link?

    Let me quote first from Google's deskbar privacy policy http://desktop.google.com/privacypolicy.html/

    Your computer's content is not made accessible to Google or anyone else without your explicit permission.

    Now let me quote from Google's gmail privacy policy http://gmail.google.com/gmail/help/privacy.html/

    Because we keep back-up copies of data for the purposes of recovery from errors or system failure, residual copies of email may remain on our systems for some time, even after you have deleted messages from your mailbox or after the termination of your account. Google employees do not access the content of any mailboxes unless you specifically request them to do so (for example, if you are having technical difficulties accessing your account) or if required by law, to maintain our system, or to protect Google or the public.

    Now feel free to link to the privacy policy of any company in the USA that claims to protect your privacy even after martial law is declared and claims that your data is deleted from their servers the instant you hit delete.

  21. GMail? by FuzzzyLogik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why doesn't it also search GMail? That would be a real benefit. Or does it already and i just don't see this listed anywhere?

  22. Mod -1 laughable by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    a) The data on your hard disk isn't encrypted so having an index encrypted doesn't buy you any real security.
    b) Even if it was encrypted, the decryption key would have to also be on your computer for Google Desktop to use it anyway so would be fairly easily snarfable by someone who had enough access to get at the index.
    c) Google Desktop runs as an http server on localhost. Anyone with enough access to get to the index could more easily query the Google interface directly for whatever they are interested in.

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  23. Re:You want to know what the catch is? by jomas1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm very familiar with google watch and I've actually quoted the very same exerpt that you have but what do you think this proves? I can link dozen's of pages that claim creationism has been scientifically proven and anything else that I'd like to prove. You said:
    "Google's privacy policies state that:
    1.) Any information on you is fair game.
    2.) They will happily turn over any information they have on you at any government request.
    3.) Your Gmail may reside on their servers indefinitely, even after you delete it. This may also be "indexed" on their servers and the contents read at any time."

    Someone asked you to show them where google's privacy policy makes these claims and then you post from googlewatch.org That's almost (well not really but you get the point) like quoting Microsoft on Linux's total cost of ownership

  24. Re:You want to know what the catch is? by Frac · · Score: 5, Informative

    I trust google-watch even less than google.

    Here's why.