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Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger to Arrive in April
Silly Burrito writes "Think Secret is reporting that Tiger will be out in April with an event on April 1st and it should be out in stores by April 15th. If this is true, I can finally get both the Mini and a new Powerbook, as I've been waiting for Tiger to be released before I do so. Let's just hope that this isn't a bad April Fools Joke!"
Safari team is getting ready for a new Webcore release too. So Safari 2.0 is near that means Tiger is coming soon.
Never learn by your mistakes, if you do you may never dare to try again
You don't wanna get sued for posting trade secrets.
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Why is this being taken as fact? Do the editors believe Think Secret to be a reputable news source that knows the exact release date for a given product? Has this information been confirmed by the vendor itself?
No. It's a rumor. Don't state it as fact - it pisses me off. The headline is not just misleading, it could be entirely misinformation.
Remove head from ass, then post.
apple would offer the free upgrade if you bought a PB within a month of tiger coming out. they're pretty good about that. though i'm still waiting for the g5 PB's.
My problem? I was perfectly gruntled, until some numbnuts came by and dissed me.
That it's mentioned on on april fools, and released on tax day?
I don't get it.
I think Tiger might tip me to the Apple side again, after being a Win 95/98/NT/XP user for a while. ITConversations.com ran an interview with the senior product line manager. There's no video, but it was interesting to hear him walk through the new features.
This is from someone typing on an Apple PowerBook btw - I do like Apple's products, but not always the company's actions.
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Apart from Tony the Tiger is an *American* character, you moron.
Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger to arrive in April
By Ryan Katz, Senior Editor
March 11, 2005 - Apple will officially announce Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger's release at an event in early April and will begin shipping the operating system within two or three weeks afterwards, Think Secret has learned. Apple has previously only stated that Tiger will ship during the first half of the 2005.
The event, sources say, is currently scheduled for Friday, April 1 and will be delivered via satellite to numerous locations around the world. Unknown at this point is where the event will take place and whether the media or other outsiders will be invited to attend. Well placed sources say Tiger will likely be in stores by April 15.
Multiple pieces of information gleaned from sources in recent weeks have pointed to an April release date for Tiger. Apple has doubled the software metrics for stores and resellers for the second quarter, ending May 31, for example. While several new software titles slated for release at NAB on April 18 will boost software revenue for stores, Tiger will be the jewel that Apple expects will allow resellers to double their sales from the first quarter.
At least one of Apple's new pro apps the company will introduce at NAB will also require Tiger, sources say. Additionally, Apple is currently targeting updates to its iMac G5 and eMac systems for mid-April, which will come pre-installed with Tiger and iLife '05 (see related story).
In recent weeks, Apple has significantly increased the frequency of Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger builds released to developers, another indication that development is rapidly wrapping up. Earlier this week, a gaffe on Apple's Mac OS X downloads page also listed three new categories pertaining to Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger: links to "Automater Actions," "Dashboard Widgets," and "Spotlight Plugins" all lead to pages that were not yet available at apple.com. Apple has since removed those links from the categories listing.
Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger will sell for $129 and has been billed as the most substantial upgrade to Mac OS X since the operating system debuted.
QuickTime 7 will also be released with Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, sources say. A Mac OS X 10.3-compatible version, code-named Gibson, will be released around the same time.
1) Apple is almost certainly going to ship a CD edition of Tiger. The DVD edition was only for the Developer's Preview.
2. All Macs after iMac Slot-Loader can boot from FireWire Optical Drives.
3. Even better, FireWire Macs can access the optical drive of another Mac when the slave Mac is booted into FireWire Target Disk mode, removing the need for an external DVD drive!
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It looks like you're voicing a dissenting opinion.
What would you like to do?
* Go to your nearest LUG meeting for reprogramming.
* Buy a large number of Apple stocks in atonement.
* Get bitchslapped.
* Get modded up now as Interesting and modded down later as Troll.
April 1st is the beginning of Apple's fiscal year, so that wouldn't be a surprising release date.
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Why should free speech trump the rights of an individual or a company to use a contract to keep information private?
Or maybe some of us are able to be somewhat rational? Personally, if Microsoft had been in Apple's shoes, I'd have felt the same way about the ThinkSecret case, and I'm anything but a Microsoft appologist (IE: I firmly believe the DoJ should have broken up the company).
The Apple vs Does case is more about reaffirming trade secret law that's already on the books and has already been affirmed by the courts many, many times. So no, I don't really see it as a 'victory against journalism.' No one is facing penalties for what they've printed at this point - and this isn't exactly a whistle blower case that deserves special privelege. But feel free to check my comment history on the subject - I've been consistent in my viewpoint and after reading the judge's opinion yesterday, I seem to have had it about pegged.
On topic, Tiger's looking to be a rather interesting release. Apple's putting metadata to good use with Spotlight, and I'm interested to see how Dashboard's ended up looking. The real story, I think, may end up being the behind the scenes part of the OS - CoreImage. It truly opens the door for a first-party Apple Photoshop killer, if Adobe refuses to adopt the interface. Remember iMovie and FCP are only really around because Adobe declined to make a good consumer oriented video editing system, so Apple did it themselves. Could we be seeing this happen again?
usually once it is "officially anounced" any new system purchase will be able to obtain the new os for the cost of media (I think $20).
oh please. some dude with a blog spouting off what his cat did today does not a journalist make....
nick at think secret is a rumor monger. not a jounralist.
please don't lump this case in the same class as the Pentagon Papers. You perform a diservice to real journalists and all our rights when you do..
FYI, the Tiger pages at Apple have been updated recently.
:)
Here's a nice tour of the features.
In my opinion, most of the new features in Tiger are more developer-friendly than end-user-friendly, but that's OK, because I think you're going to see some incredible apps come out that use Core Image, Core Video, and Spotlight. Those apps should be what make you want Tiger, not Tiger itself. Out of all the new stuff in Tiger I think the new Mail.app is the best. People spend their work day in e-mail, and the new mail.app looks incredible.
Don't forget Tiger Server. It's a really nice update. New ACL system, 64-bit native, iChat Server (using Jabber), weblog server, and a new software update server. The most interesting feature to me is the new Portable Home Directories. Mac OS X clients will be able to have a home directory on their laptop, and it will trickle sync the home directory with the network when you are connected to your office server.
Personally, I don't believe the ThinkSecret rumor for a second. Apple is *way* too marketing savvy to release a product on April Fool's Day. Also, April 1 is a Friday. Apple almost always announces products on Tuesday.
- Todd
- "When you want something with all your heart, the entire universe conspires to give it to you" -Paulo Coelho
>> OSX isn't a "free" (as in speech) operating system. It may
>> be based on a Unix-like foundation, but thats on excuse.
>> We should be promoting Free software, not closed.
Why? What makes you believe all this rubbish?
Perhaps you have Slashdot confused with some other web site.
My bet is that you used a commercial for-profit ISP to connect to Slashdot in the first place, utilizing hardware that was manufactured by companies who's products also aren't "free" (as in speech).
My guess is that the doctor who snatched you from your mother's womb was, likewise, not "free" (as in speech).
Quit being silly.
so many loyal slashdotters were welcoming Apple's victory against journalism?
If you had actually read any of the articles or bothered to spend 10 minutes informing yourself on the topic, you would realize that in fact Apple had not scored a "victory against journalism", but instead had won the right to subpeona records in order to determine how information was illegally obtained.
The judge stated, quite rationally, that it didn't matter if the bloggers at the center of the case were journalists or not, for even journalists lack the right to publish trade secrets that do not benefit the public interest. More to the point, the judge stated that interest by the public is not the same as public interest.
So if you want to go on being misinformed, then please be my guest and don't read the articles. But at least have the decency to do so quietly and not spread FUD around the internets.
People who say "sheeple" have about as much sophistication as an AOL user, and in fact are probably actually AOL users.
Apple... um... didn't win against journalism. Hell, the fact that bloggers are or are not journalists didn't even enter the equation there. The Judge left that to Daily Show skits and CNN talking heads.
Heck, Apple didn't even really try and stop Nick from posting Apple-related news. What they did do is compel him to reveal his sources, which were illegally sharing Trade Secrets.
This was pretty clear from, you know, the fucking artciles linked of the thread you posted.
Crawl back in your hole.
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Thanks for reading. You can now turn off your computer.
Slashdot bills itself as "News For Nerds. Stuff That Matters." Clearly the latest release of OS X matters to the nerds.
The delicious irony a *free* software advocate telling others what they *should* do is making me hungry....
IBM is still having serious problems with heat dissipation, so unless they produce a throttled-back chip, the G5 is unlikely to make its way into portables anytime soon. The consensus among Apple watchers is that dual-core G4's from Freescale (formerly Motorola's processor division) are likelier candidates for portable Macs.
Sure journalists should have a right to keep their sources secret but don't companies also have a right to have trade secrets? So, why should journalists be permitted to have their secrets after they engaged in activities that negated a company's rights to secrets? Think about it.
This entire situation is shitty on all accounts. On one hand, the employees need to be fired. Secondly, journalists should not be bribing an organizations employees for secret information. Lastly, Apple shouldn't care so much. No one takes ThinkSecret all that seriously. How many times have their rumors been absolutely ridiculous besides being incorrect? Remember how many times they've published rumors about a new PDA, G5 Powerbook, iTablet, or an iPhone?
[insert lame joke here]
I thought ThinkSecret was getting "sued" to get the names of the person(s) who gave them the secrets. Everyone is making is sound like Apple is asking ThinkSecret to shut down, pay millions, or some other onerous thing. This is not the case. Apple asked ThinkSecret for a name. ThinkSecret said "No". Apple then asked the court to compell ThinkSecret to give them the name. After careful consideration of the case the court said "yes". NOW, if ThinkSecret STILL refuses, the court might impose a penalty, such as fines or jail time.
Apple wants the name(s) of those who violated the law and broke their NDA (so they can go after them for actual damages, etc.). The courts ruled (this is my translation/interpretation) that ThinkSecret IS/ARE journalists. However, even journalists don't have the right to withhold the identity of a source who has violated the law by giving the journalist the information in the first place. The idea that journalists can protect their sources is a good one, because is allows them to break stories about "public interest" (not "things that interest the public" - there's a difference). Things like whistle-blowing (which, although might really piss off the company, is NOT illegal to do).
If ThinkSecret had instead run a "leaked" story that MacMini's were produced by indentured 6-year-olds and were made of Soilent Green, they would NOT have been ordered to give up their sources. NDA's do not cover releasing information about violations of the law or dangers to the public. They DO cover releasing information that is a trade secret or other proprietary information that you have signed a contract to NOT give out.
Journalists, like ThinkSecret, do NOT have carte-blanch for releasing any information they want and STILL protecting their sources. I don't even think the court has said that ThinkSecret was wrong to release the information they did. They just know now that they can't LEGALY protect their sources in these type of situations. Does this make it harder to get "credible" information in the future? You bet. That sucks for them. Their sources will have to give them information REALLY anonymously and ThinkSecret will have to guess which ones are real/likely, with the rest of us. Their free-ride is over.
"terrorism" and "pedophilia" are the root passwords to the Constitution
Even better. They're including an all new graphing calculator. It's called Graphulator
that's the first of a long line of releases and whatnot on the day.....
I wouldn't want a G5 in a laptop. You can permanently damage yourself running that hot a processor in your lap.
Seriously, though, I hope Apple goes with the Freescale dual-core G4 for mobile use before the G5.
I guess I got lucky then. I bought a 12" PowerBook G4 about 3 weeks ago and have no issues with it. Good battery life (> 4 hours), no dead pixels, no wobble, and the trackpad works extremely well. I especially like the new "scrolling trackpad" feature, though it's taken me some getting used to putting two fingers on the 'pad (10 years of avoiding putting multiple fingers on the 'pad is taking some effort to overcome :-).
Sorry to hear you've had such problems.
Don't underestimate the power of The Source
The free speech rights of journalists are not trampled upon. There is NO constitutional right for journalists to keep the names of their sources secret. Some states have laws that protect this right, but there is neither a federal constitutional right nor a common law privilege. The state laws are not absolute privileges either -- in the California case, the judge ruled that California's shield law does not cover the type of reporting done by the fan sites.
From the ruling: "Unlike the whistleblower who discloses a health, safety or welfare hazard affecting all, or the government employee who reveals mismanagement or worse by our public officials, (the enthusiast sites) are doing nothing more than feeding the public's insatiable desire for information."
This seems to be lost in all the hysteria over Apple's suit. Apple is NOT suing ThinkSecret for damages. They are suing ThinkSecret only to get the names of the people who did reveal trade secrets. Those people broke their NDAs and Apple wants to go after them for breach of contract. There is, of course, no "free speech" right to break a contract in which you agreed not to reveal those secrets. Apple's target is those people, and that's what the law suit is about.
Now, since ThinkSecret is refusing to reveal the names of those sources, and since there's no privilege to keep those names secret, it is in contempt of court. This is a fundamental aspect of our justice system, that the litigants are entitled to "everyman's evidence." You definitely want this. Think about it. If you were in an accident and none of the witnesses want to testify, where does that leave you? You can subpoena them to testify in court and reveal what they know, and if they refuse, they can be held in contempt of court. This is exactly analogous.
Don't let the label "journalist" fool you. We are all journalists -- we post on a blog and we report what we see and what we think. If you are going to give "journalists" a right to keep quiet about evidence, then everyone would have this right, and our system would not function. The First Amendment emphatically does not allow you to keep silent in court unless you have an applicable privilege.
I've seen the preview release of Tiger...
It's grrrrrrrrrrreat!
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On the plus side, battery life is superb, auto dimming works well, and I love the back-lit keys.
The parent didn't say what PB he had. Perhaps the 17" have more problems. I didn't get that one, as it is just too large for travelling. I decided not to wait for a G5 due to the noise of the G5 iMac at work.
Read this blog post which I linked from another story last night. The author does a good job of walking you through exactly what Apple is claiming, including providing a copy of the complaint itself.
Long story short: Apple says that Ciarelli offered anonymity in exchange for trade secrets. In California, offering something in exchange for somebody breaking a contract is called tortious interference. Second, Apple says that Ciarelli knowingly published trade secrets. In California, it's against the law to do that, under the Uniform Trade Secrets Act.
So yeah, Think Secret is probably going to have to shut down or pay millions or some other onerous thing because Ciarelli broke the law.
You're only thinking about one small part of the dispute, the subpoenas for the names of the leakers.
Maybe you should get a girlfriend instead. Wouldn't that be something !
When's the release date?
I didn't say 'trade secret protection laws.' I said 'contract' - as in NDA.
If it's okay to violate an NDA, as long as you do it by telling a reporter what you know, then just what exactly is an NDA for, in your opinion?
Who is this "we"? Some of us don't have any issue at all with proprietary software, particularly when that software is superior to other alternatives. In my opinion, that's the case with OSX. Nothing else compares.
Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
Sorry to hear you got a lemon. I think it's a bit presumptuous to assume the problem is widespread based on anecdotal evidence though.
I've had my new 15" PB for over a month now and have had no problems. The trackpad scrolling works great and I love it.
That Apple's OS updates follow the same naming conventions as Wehrmacht tanks? If 10.5 is called Maus then we're going to be in trouble.
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Restart your Macintosh
While the Macintosh makes the pleasant startup sound, press and hold the 'T' key on your Macintosh's keyboard
As you wait approximately 20 seconds for Target Disk mode to begin, imagine the profitability of the third step
When the pretty day-glow orange FireWire logo appears on your Target Disk Macintosh's screen, release the 'T' key
Connect your Target Disk Macintosh's FireWire port to another Macintosh's FireWire port using a standard FireWire cable
Watch as the drive(s) of the Target Disk Macintosh appear on the screen of the other Macintosh in bright day-glow orange
Copy files previously unaccessable on the Target Disk Macintosh to a safe location
With Target Disk mode, it's easy to make backup copies of critical files for offsite storage.
Well, you were making a good point up till here. In my country, doctors are free (as in beer) to the person requiring treatment through taxation. More importantly, medical knowledge *is* free (as in speech). Can you imagine a situation where it wasn't?? Where a doctor would hold on to his/her knowledge to give themselves a competitive advantage? Not only would patients suffer, through the concentration of this knowledge, but the doctor would suffer as his/her ideas would not advance through the contribution of their peers.
Scientific knowledge needs to be free.
The only "problem" is the Airport Extreme card still has poor reception, at least compared to my old white iBook G3.
The iBooks get the best reception of all Macintosh models. At least this was the case when I got my 15" 1.25 GHz Powerbook about 1.5 years ago. So, you probably won't see the kind of reception on your Powerbook as you do on your iBook.
That said, some Powerbooks, especially the 12" models, have reception issues (like getting 2 bars when fewer than 10 feet from the WiFi node, Airport or generic) and the way to improve it is to open up your PB and to make sure the connector to the Airport card is fully seated.
It seems sort of silly, but for a while many Powerbooks were coming out the factory with their Airport cards not fully connected to the Airport antenna. Check yours just to make sure.
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Actually, no. The "rule of law" is based on guns. Lots of guns.
While you're at it, you may as well mention how to boot one machine off the hard drive in another...
After one machine is booted in target disk mode, connect the firewire cable and restart the other machine while holding down the F key. Handy way of using your crappy iBook's home directory in a computer lab that has nice G4s or G5s.
I'll turn into a supernova and burn up everything. Well I'll turn into a black little hole and you'll turn into string.
Will that Radeon 9200 32MB video be able to handle the GPU-intense graphics of OSX 10.4. I'm hoping some sites will take a look at that question when tiger is available.
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