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Star Wars Revelations - May the Force Be With You!

n0alpha writes "For all you Star Wars fans out there, if you've been less than satisfied with the last two episodes of Star Wars, fear not. There is a new episode coming out soon -- but I'm not talking about Revenge of the Sith. On April 16th, 2005 the world will be blessed with a brand new episode, Star Wars Revelations. This is an independent film, completely put together by volunteers and organized by Panic Struck Productions, but don't let that fool you into thinking it is sub-par. Visit their website to view a trailer."

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  1. This has... by poopdeville · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..."copyright infringement" written all over it.

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    1. Re:This has... by Rs_Conqueror · · Score: 5, Informative

      Considering George Lucas judges the yearly star wars fanfilms, this seems unlikely.

    2. Re:This has... by ehiris · · Score: 4, Funny

      They could release it in Mexico. It would join the Oakley knock-offs you find there. Only that real Oakleys are better then the knock-offs.

      Just because Lucas owns the copyright on Star Wars he shouldn't film knock-offs :)

    3. Re:This has... by servognome · · Score: 4, Funny

      He (his office) has to approve the story and make sure it doesn't conflict with someone else's work.
      And they do about as good a job as the patent office. Lucas even conflicts within his own films, and doesn't care.

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    4. Re:This has... by Kintanon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's called pride of workmanship. Yes, they are fictional entertainment. But why bother writing a series if you are going to change the details in every book/movie? Just make completely seperate works. That whole "People make mistakes" mindset is just an excuse for shoddy work.

      Kintanon

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  2. cool by dirvish · · Score: 4, Funny

    That is the first exciting Star Wars news I've heard in a long time! ...and just when I had started to give up.

  3. Not sub-par? You already said it wasn't by Lucas by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny
    " but don't let that fool you into thinking it is sub-par"

    Since you said it was NOT by George Lucas, I was not tending to think it was sub-par already.

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  4. now just... by Rs_Conqueror · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now if only somone would make a fanfilm involving the horrific death of jar-jar...

  5. Just like the real thing by elflet · · Score: 4, Funny

    At first I was taken aback by the cheezy dialog ("she lied to me! She used me!"), adequate acting, and overall look. Then I remembered Jar-Jar. This band of rebel filmmakers may be the galaxy's best last hope.

  6. Looks good by maotx · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The movie looks pretty decent. The CGI effects are better than the original movies though the acting could use a little improvement. For an independant film I'm really impressed with it. If they showed it at my local theater I'd be willing to cough up the $9 to see it just for the original content.

    Any word on how they are going to release this film? Online? Select theater?

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  7. Can we alter time/space... by Scareduck · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ... change the copyright laws and/or the course of Lucasfilm, and give these guys legal power to make whatever sequels/prequels they want? Without having seen any of this, it occurs to me that the conventional wisdom WRT the Star Wars franchise is that Lucas desperately needs to hand control over to somebody else, and he is increasingly unwilling and/or incapable of doing so.

    Lucas recently said the newest sequel is not for children, and given the quality of the other ones put out since about halfway through Return of the Jedi, it's not for adults, either. Die, midiclorians, die! Die, Ewoks, die! Die, Jar-Jar, die!

    lather, rinse, repeat

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  8. Looks nice but... by coupland · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay, the CGI, sound, and effects were outstanding. But the acting and dialogue made me pray I'd be struck by a passing meteorite. Wait a minute, that was a verbatim transcript of my opinions of Ep1 & 2... Maybe these folks are on to something...

    1. Re:Looks nice but... by Coryoth · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually what was lacking was professional quality lighting, wardrobe, make-up and cinematography. That's understandable, these thngs are hard, and potentially very expensive. Most average (that's average, not ugly!) people can look good if you supply them with professional make up and tailored costuming, have professional lighting (that makes a surprsing difference actually - its one of the main differences in "look" between a alot of amateur films and professional productions) and shoot them in a way that makes the most of their features.

      You would probably be surprised to find, should you ever meet them in real life, that most celebrities are hardly more attractive than a lot of the people you'll meet every day. Sure they've got the knack of a winning smile, or a particularly "sexy pout" or whatever, but on the whole the difference isn't that great. What they do have is professional makeup, lighting and cinematography.

      Jedidiah.

    2. Re:Looks nice but... by Coryoth · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Another problem is sound editting. They didn't pad the room or use the right equipment or filters or something... you can hear all kinds of sounds and noise when the actors talk, making it sound like it was recorded in a bedroom.

      Very true. Again, that's one of those things that's hard, and potentially expensive to do right. Then again, there's the issue of knowing your constraints. That, IMHO, is why Troops was so good. They knew sound and lighting and make-up were really the hard parts, so they managed to write something that required a minimum of it: Everything was shot outside in bright sun so lighting issues are minimised. 90% of the dialog is from the troopers and can hence be recorded separately in sound booth afterwards. Everyone is in costume (which was a point they were apparently very good at, and used to the hilt) except Beru and Owen, who are supposed to look a little haggard and distressed anyway - make-up becomes a non-issue.

      The truly great amateur films are the ones that understand what they can do well, and what they don't have available, and manage to create something that fits neatly inside those constraints. Being so constrained is a little more limiting, but if you're really creative in writing and direction you can often do wonders. There are some great Science Fiction films (Pi and Sticky Fingers of Time for instance) that were made on shoestring budgets. Knowing and playing to your limitations is what makes for a great low budget film.

      Jedidiah.

  9. Re:Copyrights... by djwavelength · · Score: 5, Informative

    Lucas endorses fan films - I was trying to find more detail, but all i found was here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_fiction#Legal_asp ect/

  10. They can do more than that.... by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny
    " I firmly believed that the only way for Lucas to win back the audience was by starting out the second with a black screen and have Jar-Jar walk on and spontaneously combust... and roll around for about ten minutes."

    Hell, he'll win me back if he makes "Sith" nothing more than a 2 hour extremely bloody high body count Gungan snuff flick. The only time the Gungan slaughter stops is when the Ewoks show up and they become the target.

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  11. Slashdotting: The Play by McCarrum · · Score: 5, Funny

    Alas, poor website! I knew it, Horatio: a site of infinite uptime, of most excellent fancy: it hath borne me on its pages a thousand times; and now, how absent in my browser it is! my gorge rims at it. Here hung those graphics that I have watched I know not how oft. Where be your scripts now? your applets? your stylesheets? your flashes of gif animation, that were wont to set my bandwidth on a groan?

  12. It has to be done... by WarPresident · · Score: 4, Funny

    When reached for comment about a new fan-created film, Mr. D. Vader, a spokesperson for LucasFilms released the following statement: "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed, the ability to host a file is no match for the power of the Slashdot force."

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  13. The Force by Vidiot3k · · Score: 4, Funny

    is not with their server... It fell to the dark side.

  14. Mirror (be nice) by amitti · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Got a new box, lets see how my Dual Xeon handles.. (be nice)

    web_trailer_II_larger.mov

    -Mitti

    1. Re:Mirror (be nice) by openglx · · Score: 4, Informative
  15. Re:Parody! by antimatt · · Score: 5, Funny

    how to make a parody of a Star Wars film:

    1. Make a film in the Star Wars universe.
    2. Hire good actors, and give them good direction.
    3. Profit. Fear no copyright infringement.

    -matt.

  16. Where's Mel Brooks? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Funny

    What we really need is Spaceball 2 to hit the big screens. Of course, some people might be saying, "Oh, no... not again!" :P

  17. Trailer Impressions by __aailob1448 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is very nice looking for a fan-made movie. It is , however, subpar to a hollywood production (CG, actors, fight scenes...). But even getting to the level to actually be compared to a hollywood movie is a huge achievement so congratulations to the crew.

    I'll be sure to check it out when it comes out.

  18. I'm still waiting for by StarKruzr · · Score: 5, Funny

    Spaceballs 3: The Search for 2

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  19. Torrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    First time hosting a torrent, so here goes: http://68.205.82.17:3001/web_trailer_II_larger.mov .torrent

  20. Review based on Trailer (or, IANAMovie Critic) by RyoShin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First off, the CGI, while not to the level as the 'AAA' modern day films, is still quite amazing. Ships, exploding stuff, robotic limbs... Very nicely done. There were a few scenes in the trailer where the CGI looked blurry compared to the rest of the shot, but that could be fixed up before release.

    I don't really follow the Star Wars universe as a whole, so all I can say about the plot is that it is interesting.

    However, as many people have already pointed out, the acting is sub-par. The lead evil actress tries to have some sort of menacing voice, but just sounds like her mouth is packed with something. (acorns?) The acting of other parts (such as the confrontation on the 'good guy' ship) seems forced, with delayed reaction time. The lightsaber scene between the two lead females just didn't feel right.

    There were also some parts of the trailer that just didn't fit in with the pace of it. The one main example that I saw was the girl dancing in a futuristic version of those hanging cages (I have no idea what they are called.) The pace of her body threw off the suspense that was (supposedly) building, and conflicted with the (then) slow music. It also had no real purpose that I could tell.

    Hopefully the acting throughout the entire movie averages better than the trailer, but I wouldn't be surprised if the opposite were true.

    It's probably good for them that they can't charge money for it.

    I am not a film critic, obsessive Star Wars fan, or acting buff, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

  21. Re:You r right... George Lucs lost his touch by Koiu+Lpoi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    About the CG: Now, I for one have always played computer and console games, going all the way back to my sega genesis. I do some 3d programming work, so I know how a 3d engine works and feels. I know how real life works and feels.

    Getting to the point: In my opinion, there is something wrong about Lucas's CGI. Whatever he uses just doesn't feel right to me. My father describes it as feeling 'flat' - which he gave no such condemnation to Half-Life 2 or Far Cry. I describe it as being 'too smooth' or 'unrealistic' - but I just can't put my finger on it. It's extremly prominent in Episode 2. However, to see it at it's worst, see the original 3 remade - the CGI scenes in that, which are hacked in, REALLY feel wrong to me. Has anyone else noticed this? I think this may play a large part in the rejection of the newer films - the old ones, while a lot of it was nottoogreatlooking, it was still very real.

  22. Don't Insult the fanfilms by spacepirate09 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I find it a bit foolish to insult actors in fanfilms. I doubt the maker of the movie had an unlimited budget and could hire actors fresh out of Hollywood. Give the guy a break, he's trying.

    1. Re:Don't Insult the fanfilms by Wylfing · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I doubt the maker of the movie had an unlimited budget and could hire actors fresh out of Hollywood. Give the guy a break, he's trying.

      Indeed, it would be foolish to condemn any part of this effort. Sure, the acting isn't awesome, but there can be a lot of reasons for that, including inexperience at directing. It's definitely good enough to carry the show, and some of the lines are delivered quite convincingly.

      Now the special effects...Holy cow! Those are fantastic.

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  23. I'll take natalie portman. by xMonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some fanbois thought it would be cool to have two 'hot chix' as jedi's, cause that would be hot.

    But once you view the trailer you can see they failed miserably to deliver the hotness.

    So there really is no point in watching it.

  24. A great disturbance in the Force by GeekTek · · Score: 4, Funny

    A million geeks cheering in joy and were suddenly silenced. By a million lawyers.

  25. Re:Parody! by Tim+Browse · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Yeah, don't go hiring any of those bad actors like Christopher Lee, Ewan McGregor, Liam Neeson, Natalie Portman, Ian McDiarmid, Terence Stamp, Samuel L. Jackson etc.

    I mean, those guys freaking suck!

    (See what I did there?)

  26. Re:You r right... George Lucs lost his touch by CockblockTheVote · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Flat is not the word you are looking for. The word you seek is "soulless". There is nothing behind the characters, no life, no personality. Even with the puppets in the first trilogy there was someone behind the mask, behind the strings. That gave them life. And made the characters more believeable. And with the scenes in the original that were updated, the same thing applies. they feel more real because they were. There were spaceships, however small, that were filmed. They actually existed. You can't get the same feel from CGI, yet, as you can from something that exists in the real world, no matter what the scale.

  27. There's Hope For Chunky People Who Can't Act by perlmunger · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm in luck!!! -Matt

  28. Re:Parody! by Mr+Ambersand · · Score: 5, Funny

    Natalie Portman sucks? Wow! Now that's 'News For Nerds'!

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  29. Re:Parody! by macshit · · Score: 4, Funny

    I just wish they'd pick a good hairdresser.

    This has bugged me ever since the first Star Wars film. They're flying around in spaceships, wearing funky clothing, fighting light-saber duels, etc., and I'll be suspending my disbelief just fine, ... but wait ... all the male actors have hair right out of the local teen boy-band concert! Gah!

    C'mon guys, either make the hair (1) really weird (the female actors seem to have this down), or (2) mind-bendingly conservative (pick something that hasn't changed in 1500 years, like shaving it all off). At least stop using Tiger Teen Beat as your model.

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  30. Copyright safety by yow2000 · · Score: 5, Informative
    From: http://panicstruckpro.com/revelations/revelations_ faq.html#Anchor-27696

    Question
    Is Lucas aware of your film and isn't he going to sue the hell out of you?

    Answer:
    For most people who do not understand fan films we get this question often .To answer, I doubt if Lucas himself has seen "Revelations". However ,Lucas is a large supporter for fan films,and is very kind enough to let other inspiring artists play in his backyard, as long as you don't try and make money from his hard work, and respectfully so.

    "Revelations" is a non-profit film and everyone who worked on the film was a volunteer (no one was paid). The film itself will be availible free to download from TheForce.net and the "Revelations" website to anyone who wishes to watch it.

    A great article put out by "Wired" covers some good ground about fan films and here is what Steve Sansweet (Lucasfilm's head of Fan Relations) had to say:

    "There is plenty of room for fans to express their own feelings and opinions," Sansweet said. "We believe our core fans are responsible for the continuing popularity of the series, and we want to encourage them. Our intellectual properties are there for you to play with, but we expect you won't try and make a profit or use our characters in a salacious way. Having that wide-open frontier serves as a self-policing mechanism for the fans, who are really appreciative of being included."

    "Sansweet added that Lucas believes fan films will grow more sophisticated as the amateur filmmakers gain new skills. "

  31. Re:Fan films - lack of imagination and inspiration by rhysweatherley · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If they had made something original, it probably would never had gotten mentioned on Slashdot or anywhere else. It would have been just another student project, lost in the film archives for all time.

    By using an established genre, they get more media coverage and potential viewers. This increases the chance that the director, special effects guy, or one of the actors will be noticed by a big name to work on something more substantial. And then they will be able to do their own thing.

    I believe that in university-level art classes, you need to turn in paintings in realistic, impressionist, post-modern styles, etc, to pass the course, to show that you have more depth than just one artistic style. Even if you never paint another da Vinci in your life, you still have to prove that you can.

    Consider this movie the answer to a film student's exam question: "Create a film in the style of Lucas".

  32. Re:You r right... George Lucs lost his touch by B3ryllium · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You've never seen Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo, or Shrek, have you?

  33. Re:Parody! by madmancarman · · Score: 4, Funny
    C'mon guys, either make the hair (1) really weird (the female actors seem to have this down), or (2) mind-bendingly conservative (pick something that hasn't changed in 1500 years, like shaving it all off). At least stop using Tiger Teen Beat as your model.

    Have you seen George Lucas's hair? Is it any wonder they all look like Jack from Three's Company?

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  34. On performing arts by Qbertino · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I studied and trained performing arts, have a diploma in that and I also consider myself somewhat firm at general visual/fine arts.
    The thing hat occured to me about watching and noticing the bad acting , as a lot of people here allready have done, is I thought that I would have done it better. Yet the other part of that is that it also occured to me how extremly difficult it would be to get it just right. For novices aswell as for me.

    I've long considered starting a little independent film project and I think I would be the type of guy to a) not consider a fan project like this 'below' me and b) actually be able to aply my skills in such a way that everybody would profit from it. Like for instance the mentioned bad acting. There are a few extremly simple rules of acting that just sink in with the years that these people could have followed to greatly enhance even that short trailer. Very much like the simple rules you just know when to apply as an experienced programmer.

    Some must-have basics:
    If you want to sound fierce, loud and evil, tone down on the vowels and emphasise the consonants. Do speech training. Do speech training with your lines.
    The moment you know your lines is the moment you START practicing them, you don't stop it there. (That's what differs a school play from professional acting btw)

    When you act, your head and facial expression leads your motion, when you dance your body leads your motion and facial expression. For dancing: On at least one part of your body at a time the musical beat should be visible. (Cue stupid dirty jokes below :-) )

    And finally, my performing arts process I've refined over 10 years of professional work -
    practice an act in this order (and in this order ONLY):

    1) Learn to know the play and learn your lines by heart. Nothing else. Don't dare try to act at this stage. NEVER try to act at this stage. If you do, you WILL suck on stage/film. Trust me. I've studied with to many third class perfomers, the world has enough of them. In fact, you shouldn't even move very much when reciting your lines at this stage.

    2) Give your lines flow and vividness by supporting each one with an inner picture and vision. EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ONE. Give the string of visions a storytelling consistency. It's at this stage perfomers notice wether they've understood the playwrite or wether they have to correct their povs at some place or other. This is the stage at which storyboarders, and directors of photography double check their plans for shooting. Again: don't act yet. Do more of a reciting or storytelling thing. Good RPG Gamemasters enter this stage frequently for instance.

    3) Forget your lines for this stage. Think of that other person whos lines you happen to know by heart and what kind of a character he might be. Pratice stances, poses and gestures emphasising basic emotions with the impitus of that character. Don't do that with the lines. Don't act the play! Do that with differen't things. Lines you make up. Best is to make up a little play by itself. You're on the safe side if you take - for instance - the tragic Anakin Skywalker (well he was a tragic character and the acting wasn't bad at all for such a 5th grade script) and try to play him as if he were a part in a comedy. Don't speak to early. Practice the stances, poses and gestures. Learn the difference between movement leading to pose and pose leading to movement.

    4) Now practive stances, poses, gestures and movement of the play. Use the visions of 2). Don't speak your lines to much. Whisper them or speak them toneless. You want to concentrate on the moving part. You practice that seperately from speaking at first.

    5) Add you lines and and your adversaries in play. Get in sync. If your coplayers are good, you won't even need a director. Do the stuff. The thing. In one word: Act.
    HERE is where the acting kicks in. And once again: Anybody who starts earlier in the process WILL suck in performance. When you

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  35. No, you're confused by mosb1000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you feel that the characters in the prequels have anything behind the actor? No, there is nothing, even the parts of these movies which are "real" lack soul.

    On the other hand, if you watch Finding Nemo, everything feels real, even though it's just CG fish in a CG ocean. What's the difference? Writing, story, acting, perhaps.

    The idea that the problem is CG is just absurd. People said the same thing about color movies when they were first released. The problem isn't that you loose something when you use CG for effects, the problem is that you don't gain anything. You can't expect a movie to be good just because it has good special effects.

    Go and watch the original movies, the special effects weren't anymore believable. The might have looked more real, but all that means is that Yoda looked like a real puppet, and Jabba the Hut looked like a real bunch of plastic with real people inside. They weren't any more convincing in the roles they were supposed to play. And don't even talk about space scenes, there's no way the space scenes look more realistic in the original movies. The only difference is that they couldn't do as much because of the limitations of using "real" models instead of CG models.

  36. OT vs. NT - why the anger? by hkmwbz · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You are comparing apples and oranges here. The OT is a grand space soap Opera, whereas the NT is specifically created to show you how Darth Vader came to be. OT is about good vs. evil in the universe, NT is about Anakin's path from good to evil. Two completely different levels.

    I quite enjoyed episode 1 and 2. I always kept Darth Vader in the back of my mind, and I could gradually see Anakin change - I could understand how he might end up on the dark side of the Force. And the NT constantly foreshadows what inevitably will happen in episode 3.

    I think you are too caught up in the fact that the NT is not made the same way the OT is. It's not supposed to! The NT is telling a completely different story on a completely different level.

    There was a discussion about Star Wars the other day, and amidst all the +5 insightful "SW used to rock, but now it sucks" comments, I found this gem, where the poster explains how things fit together, and why it's done this way. It makes a lot of sense!

    The OT could be watched separately, but the NT is a real trilogy, where you won't get the whole picture, or indeed appreciate it all, until you actually see all the movies.

    Presumably :)

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