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Autonomous Robot Finds Life in Atacama Desert

Neil Halelamien writes "Nature and the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette report that a NASA-funded "robotic astrobiologist" named Zoë (a successor to the Hyperion rover) has found life in Chile's Atacama desert. The Atacama is the Earth's driest desert, with steep slopes and rugged terrain. This is the first robot to remotely detect life, finding bacteria (and lichens, in the less dry areas) by using a fluorescent imager. The robot could also spray special dyes to detect life signatures like DNA, protein, lipids, and carbohydrates. Zoë's next assignment will be to autonomously sample soil over 50 kilometers of the Atacama. The Atacama desert is thought to be similar to Mars; instruments similar to those used on the 1970s Viking missions have previously failed to detect life there."

124 comments

  1. NASA by WillySilly · · Score: 0, Troll

    Something funded by NASA actually worked?! The apocalypse is here!

    1. Re:NASA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yes, it's true. NASA has completely revamped every single engineering process from the ground up so that now they are extremely capable and successful at lowering the bar and setting subterranean expectations so that pretty much no matter what happens it was a resounding success. Why didn't they think of that before?!?! Next up: NASA draws upon collective knowledge of the entire bag of hammers to repair/replace Hubble whilst Chinese successfully land a man on the moon using only firecrackers and drink umbrellas.

    2. Re:NASA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Probably forgot to make the design team "diverse"
      Damn straight; time to declare our institutions jig- and wife-free, then reclaim American scholarship!
  2. Contamination probably by Eternally+optimistic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Most likely, the researchers who put the robot in the desert didn't wash their feet properly.

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    1. Re:Contamination probably by PyWiz · · Score: 1

      Indeed, if, as some other poster astutely pointed out, it hasn't rained in this desert for 100s of years, how could life be sustained?

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    2. Re:Contamination probably by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      This is on Earth. Wind can blow stuff around. Sand will cool and receive some tiny amounts of moisture from condensation. While you have a point it's kind of early to say.

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    3. Re:Contamination probably by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Then it won't find any more signs of life when it goes along its test sample route of 50 km, as mentioned in the blurb.

    4. Re:Contamination probably by Wavicle · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The Atacama receives a very small amount of water in the form of fog or dew. Although the Atacama is very dry, it is not very warm. Something like a million people live in the Atacama. In some particularly dry spots, they live from the water collected by giant "fog collectors".

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    5. Re:Contamination probably by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Interesting

      they could have probably detected the organisms by being on site. the point is, that vikings instruments weren't able to do the same and they knew that there would be signs of life over there. it's not contamination they brought themselfs.

      (you should be modded funny, but were already modded with interesting....)

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    6. Re:Contamination probably by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      It might see a sign:

      "Starbucks - 17 KM
      MickyDees - 35 KM
      Next Life - 49 KM"

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    7. Re:Contamination probably by Drooling+Iguana · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course, the problem lies in finding a droid that understands the binary language of the moisture vaporators...

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    8. Re:Contamination probably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>sucked up her stink like my nose was a chimney

      What? Since when do chimneys suck?

  3. How deep can it drill? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    A lot of the serious speculation that I have read is that life may exist well under the surface.

  4. how dry is dry? by MC68000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just an interesting tidbit, it has not rained in the Atacama desert for 100s of years.

    http://www.extremescience.com/DriestPlace.htm

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    1. Re:how dry is dry? by double-oh+three · · Score: 3, Informative

      Huh? Even the site you linked says it does rain from time to time, just rarely.

      "The annual rainfall (or lack of it) defines a desert, but that doesn't mean that it never rains in Atacama. "

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    2. Re:how dry is dry? by hublan · · Score: 3, Funny

      Guess he was not specific enough. The TFA's sidebar says:

      "Some places in the Atacama Desert have not had rainfall for over 400 years!"

      That's like... the Anti-Seattle.

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    3. Re:how dry is dry? by Fnord · · Score: 1

      Hey, this winter we're having a drought. At least its a drought by our standards (I look out the window and notice it's raining right now).

    4. Re:how dry is dry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..but it's a "dry heat"...

  5. IANABiologist by thedustbustr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why would life on mars necessarily be DNA-based, and why would protiens and lipids nessarily evolve if life evolves? Certainly, other methods of reproduction may have evolved.

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    1. Re:IANABiologist by Toresica · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure, we might not recognise life if we find it. But we know DNA-based life works - why not look for it?

      I've heard speculation that the first microbes might have come to Earth from Mars - if so, it would likely be somewhat similar to life here.

    2. Re:IANABiologist by KitFox · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Why would life on mars necessarily be DNA-based, and why would protiens and lipids nessarily evolve if life evolves? Certainly, other methods of reproduction may have evolved.

      I actually have to agree with this observation completely. If we consider that our definition of life seems to include specific chemicals and processes and results, and that we really have no other definitions of life, then I suppose that we have no other choice but to see in tunnel vision.

      The issue I think is that perhaps we have too strict a definition of "what is necesary for life". Consider: With the recent article on self-replicating rapid prototypers, how far are we away from the possibility of machines that can consume raw materials, process them to create power and more complex materials, and possibly reproduce new copies of themselves? That fits the most basic definition of 'life' already. But there's no DNA, or protiens, or any other such things involved.

      Maybe we need to start revising our views on what constitutes "signs of life" if we want to have accurate findings. Either that or realize that we can only search for "Life as we know it" specifically.

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    3. Re:IANABiologist by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Why would life on mars necessarily be DNA-based, and why would protiens and lipids nessarily evolve if life evolves? Certainly, other methods of reproduction may have evolved.

      One possibility is that the Martian life and Earth life are related. If rocks can be blown off the surface of Mars and land here- and presumably, vice-versa- it's quite possible that in the early days around 3-4 billion years ago, impact ejecta formed a sort of interplanetary shuttle service for microbes. If Mars became habitable before Earth, it's even possible life actually evolved there, and then was seeded here.

    4. Re:IANABiologist by wrf3 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Self-replicating rapid prototypers were initially designed. We can't have scientists go around looking for life that came about except by random natural processes, can we?

    5. Re:IANABiologist by heptapod · · Score: 1

      Psht, why does alien life have to have the same chirality as Earthly life? NASA or any other space agency could just redo the old Viking experiment. This was covered recently on Slashdot. A little more can be found here.

    6. Re:IANABiologist by rah1420 · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of that old "Final Exam" question:

      Biology: Create life. Estimate the differences in subsequent human culture
      if this form of life had developed 500 million years earlier, with special
      attention to its probable effect on the English Parliamentary System. Prove
      your thesis.

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    7. Re:IANABiologist by Micah · · Score: 1

      > I've heard speculation that the first microbes might have come to Earth from Mars

      There are numerous problems with that theory. Mars was only debatably suitable for life production for a short time around 3.8 billion years ago. Before that, it was affected by the late heavy bombardment, as was earth, that would have made any form of life impossible. Not long after that, the atmosphere on Mars became such that it would have not been able to produce life -- any liquid water would have boiled due to the low atmospheric pressure. Harmful rays from the sun also would have been a far greater problem than on earth. Life would have only had a few tens of millions of years maximum to form and get on an earth-bound rock. Plus, Mars contains even less evidence of proper chemical conditions for origins of life than does early earth.

    8. Re:IANABiologist by Decaff · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why would life on mars necessarily be DNA-based, and why would protiens and lipids nessarily evolve if life evolves? Certainly, other methods of reproduction may have evolved.

      Because life has almost certainly been regularly transferred throughout the solar system as a result of meteors. A meteor strike can splash material away from the site of impact at speeds greater than the escape velocity of Earth or Mars or any other inner-solar-system planet. This is why we find 'Martian meteorites' on Earth. It has been demonstrated that bacterial can survive the force of such impacts and remain viable. Bacterial spores could certainly survive for a considerable time in space. I would be amazed if at least bacterial life was not found on Mars, and I would expect it to be directly related to Earth bacteria.

      Incidentally, this is why we need not worry about bringing back dangerous microbes from Mars during future sample return missions - contaminated samples of rock are being exchanged between Earth and Mars (and other solar system bodies) all the time.

    9. Re:IANABiologist by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

      Agreed. This is the problem with SETI etc.: they're looking for radio waves, which is what WE choose to make, in a certain kind of human society that just happens to be successful dominant at the moment. If we ever find aliens, I'm not even sure we'll be able to find a common frame of reference, never mind a compatible communication technology, or recognisable DNA. Still, I guess there's a good chance that any lifeform will break down known energy sources in a known way, thereby producing detectable by-products, and SETI is a nice compliment to that, as an entirely different approach that covers the other end of the spectrum (no pun intended).

    10. Re:IANABiologist by dakirw · · Score: 2, Funny

      Very true. More advanced civilizations may have gone into stealth mode to avoid being detected by more aggressive/hostile civilizations. If so, our radio transmissions might be causing us a lot of problems in the future.

      It would be ironic if our demise really was due to pop culture.

    11. Re:IANABiologist by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      Our definition of life is reproducing consuming agents. Just how less specific can one be?

      Don't get confused. Just because we only know how to look for one kind of life, and therefore only look for that kind of life, doesn't mean that we've turned around and changed what life means. It's just, well, how do you make a detector for something you have no idea how works? I mean, they're just NASA. It's not like they're rocket scientists or anything.

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    12. Re:IANABiologist by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      Why would life on mars necessarily be DNA-based, and why would protiens and lipids nessarily evolve if life evolves? Certainly, other methods of reproduction may have evolved.

      The markers that were sprayed to be illuminated with the UV source were chosen with detection of DNA etc specifically in mind, but the approach is more general. Since Mars has a (slightly) oxidising atmosphere (from photolytic dissociation of water in the upper atmosphere), then the successful detection of any appreciable quantity of organic compounds should be considered highly suspicious, and the detection of something complex (lipids, sugars?) would be even better. So a dye that fluoresces on combination with a lipid backbone in a molecule, or a sugar-like molecule would be one of the materials sent on a real mission.
      It's a proof of concept, not a final design.

      Coming up with a broad definition of what is and what is not "life" is surprisingly tricky. Outside Star Trek, no one seriously believes that a "life" would be based on anything other than carbon (even if it were possible with something else, at temperatures that are credible, carbon based life would probably get started first), and the simplest way of building a cell wall is with lipids, so they're a pretty good thing to target in this sort of search.

      More generally, life requires chemical disequilibria. That's what makes the recently reported patchy distribution of methane on Mars very interesting.

      IANA Biologist either. But as a geologist I've been very interested in the origin of life for many years. These are not new discussions.

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  6. Answers! by RobertTaylor · · Score: 2, Funny

    The big question is will they find life on Earth?

    1. Re:Answers! by Timesprout · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, the big question is will they find intelligent life on Earth.

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    2. Re:Answers! by KitFox · · Score: 1
      No, the big question is will they find intelligent life on Earth.

      They haven't studied cats or dolphins enough yet to figure it out. ;)

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    3. Re:Answers! by mikael · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They haven't studied cats or dolphins enough yet to figure it out. ;)


      Whenever I run the various OpenGL demos on my computer, it's always funny to see one of our cats lift up a paw and try and "catch" the rotating object (eg torus) or even just the cursor. The most interesting reaction was when 'glgears' was running, and I couldn't understand why my cat kept looking at the power button. Then I realized it was essentially the symbol of the green gear.

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  7. Now we've found life on Earth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...we can start looking for intelligent beings.

    1. Re:Now we've found life on Earth... by Wormholio · · Score: 1

      Can it find Osama?

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  8. Really?! Life on Earth?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't believe it.. must be a software error...

  9. And now for the hard part... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And now for the hard part... ..Sending the robot to Mars...

    1. Re:And now for the hard part... by Ayaress · · Score: 1

      If the history of space travel has told us anything, it's that getting the robot to Mars is the easy part. Getting it to work once it's there is another matter.

  10. How much does this cost? by sonsonete · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how much was spent to create this robot? Or, how big is it (the pictures make it look small, but they can be deceiving)? I'm just curious about the likelihood of devices like this going to Mars any time soon.

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    1. Re:How much does this cost? by TeaQuaffer · · Score: 3, Informative

      Zoë is 1x2x2 meters (h, w, l) and was developed by Carnegie Mellon's Robotics Institute with 3 or 4 million in NASA grants more info here

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  11. Wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    They're sending mars landers to a desert now?

    Yeah, thats cheap... I guess NASA's budget has been cut again.

    1. Re:Wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I gess you would send the robots without testing first?

  12. Autonomous robot takes pride in it's work... by kaleco · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...demands pay rise and more more holidays.

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    1. Re:Autonomous robot takes pride in it's work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and claims all property rights on its "discoveries".

  13. Careful.... by gt_swagger · · Score: 1

    You don't want to disturb the natives on Mars. I know I don't want to listen to Hank Williams music to get rid of them should we make them angry.

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    1. Re:Careful.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kee-rist, there's a huge difference between Hank Williams and Slim Whitman. Think about that the next time you confuse The Beatles with Blink 182.

  14. But the real question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Does it run NetBSD? (or Linux ;)

    1. Re:But the real question is... by Proc6 · · Score: 1

      Lego Mindstorms

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  15. for those of you using NASA World Wind.... by Doppler00 · · Score: 1

    The Atacama desert is in this region. I think that link will work, at least it did on my machine.

  16. Lichens? by Jacco+de+Leeuw · · Score: 1
    Ah, Lichens...

    "Lichens are symbiotic organisms made up by the association of microscopic green algae or cyanobacteria and filamentous fungi."

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    1. Re:Lichens? by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is Slashdot, where everyone has played NetHack at least once. We all know what lichens are.

    2. Re:Lichens? by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or how President Bush likes to refer to the citizens of Lichtenstein.

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    3. Re:Lichens? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Liechtenstein, fyi.

    4. Re:Lichens? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      yeah, easy source of food that won't go bad even in 10000 moves.

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    5. Re:Lichens? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Lichens are symbiotic organisms made up by the association of microscopic green algae or cyanobacteria and filamentous fungi."

      What--I can't even pee in the desert now?!?

    6. Re:Lichens? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? You mean they've found oil in Liechtenstein?

  17. article extract by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Autonomous Robot Finds Life in Atacama Desert

    "The robot, named Zoe, escaped from a Palo Alto robotics research laboratory earlier this year. Scientists assumed it was lost until tourists photographed it in a remote part of the Atacama desert this week. In a statement to the police the robot said "I'm not going back to the lab. I've made friends out here, why would I leave?"

    1. Re:article extract by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Is one of its new friends called "Old Ben Kenobi"? No wonder they couldn't find it.

      I guess they can stop putting its picture on the sides of oil cans now.

  18. Hmmm... by PyWiz · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The Atacama desert is thought to be similar to Mars; instruments similar to those used on the 1970s Viking missions have previously failed to detect life there.

    Let me get this straight, these robots failed to detect life on earth, yet we spend billions of dollars to send them to Mars where they would, once again, fail to find life? Hurrah for the federal bureaucracy!

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  19. second look at life on Mars? by dahlek · · Score: 3, Interesting
    ... instruments similar to those used on the 1970s Viking missions have previously failed to detect life there.

    Whatever happened with that study about the chemical reactions they found on Mars - and thought was life at first - following the day-cycle (the 25 hours of sunlight on Mars or something similar)? I thought the verdict was still out on this?

    1. Re:second look at life on Mars? by Rylz · · Score: 1

      The Atacama desert is thought to be similar to Mars; instruments similar to those used on the 1970s Viking missions have previously failed to detect life there.

      Although the wording is pretty odd, if you follow the link, you'll see that they're talking about a failure to detect life in the Atacama desert, not on Mars.

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    2. Re:second look at life on Mars? by mbrother · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, you're right that the Viking experiments on Mars were not unanimous about not detecting life. At least one of them did, but in the absence of the other experiments supporting the result, consensus drifted toward "unusual chemistry" to explain it. But that's not a complete consensus by any means. Here's one link about on the pro-life side: http://mars.spherix.com/

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    3. Re:second look at life on Mars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So they found snap, but no crackle and pop.

  20. homegrown by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Funny

    Good thing they didn't demo the device before Congress: there's certainly no intelligent life to detect there.

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    1. Re:homegrown by PyWiz · · Score: 1

      Good thing this device doesn't have anything to do with _intelligent_ life either...

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    2. Re:homegrown by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Bzzp... italicized jokeprobe fails to detect sense of humor in segment 865118... next user...

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    3. Re:homegrown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This thing just detects life, not intelligence.

      Clearly, as there is plenty of parasitism in Congress, it would detect life!

    4. Re:homegrown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Such fresh and original humor!

  21. Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe if we go on trying to find life on Mars with these things, eventually nature will create life that can eat them? There sure is a lot of energy in there...

  22. would be funny if... by bingo4000 · · Score: 1

    ... you got it right. It was Slim Whitman music that made their heads explode.

  23. Life on mars bit by PxM · · Score: 3, Informative

    It should be noted that the claim about whether life on Mars exists is not without contrevery. Levin contends that the Viking probes did detect evidence of life on Mars based on biochemical signatures. This past evidence is now supported by the belief that Mars might have an organic methane source. There is also some evidence that Viking detected a circadian rhythm, but like all conclusions draw on such a limited data set, there are a lot of interpretations.

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  24. 1cm/year water due to fog by aepervius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Moisture is probably more than enough to sustain lichen and bacteria colony. Especially that this does not get that hot (link from article say it all) and part are even snowy due to altitude. Actually it may be the driest desert but not the hotest. So getting water might be a problem but eveaporation mightnot be the biggest problem. Heck, even in sahara, where you have mostly sand, you have life.

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  25. IAABiologist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am a biologist and can tell you that you're absolutely correct. The scientific term for these non-DNA-based creatures is "life, Jim, but not as we know it".

  26. Of course they found life... by tinrobot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Because they went out on a Saturday night.

    During the week, the Atacama desert is really dead.

    1. Re:Of course they found life... by geordieboy · · Score: 1

      Not so! Come on down to the Funk Shack behind that scree outcrop on Mesa 5. Tuesday night is hardcore jungle tunes, DJ Phage in da house spinnin' the wheels of steel. Phat ass bass, in yer face. Stillsuit recommended.

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  27. damn special characters by cfavader · · Score: 0

    They just had to use an 'ë' didn't they...

    Haven't people realized that the average user doesn't know how to insert special characters, thus making them less likely to search and thus care abou it?

    1. Re:damn special characters by Brutulf · · Score: 0

      Haven't people realized that the average user doesn't know how to insert special characters, thus making them less likely to search and thus care abou it?

      Heard about "copy and paste"?

    2. Re:damn special characters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Damn special characters" only for those who do not use and electronically communicate in a language with the umlaut-e. alt+203 is Ë and alt+0235 is ë. It is simple. Also frequent but non-English letters for reference: Ä (alt+0196), ä (alt+0228), Ï (alt+0207), ï (alt+0239), Ö (alt+0214), ö (alt+0246), Ü (alt+0220), ü (alt+0252). Specialised frequent characters German eszett: ß (alt+0223), Euro currency (alt+0128).

    3. Re:damn special characters by Phroggy · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Haven't people realized that the average user doesn't know how to insert special characters

      The average American, you mean?

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    4. Re:damn special characters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you non-Americans can get the fuck off our internets.

    5. Re:damn special characters by angst_ridden_hipster · · Score: 1

      Or, for Mac users, umlauts are just u followed by the letter in question, acute accents are e followed by the letter, grave accents are ` followed by the letter, circumflex are i followed by the letter, and esszetts are simply s.

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    6. Re:damn special characters by angst_ridden_hipster · · Score: 1

      Crap. My (opt-) got filtered out.

      That was opt-u, opt-e, opt-`, opt-i, and opt-s.

      Just ignore this posting and the one above.

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    7. Re:damn special characters by cfavader · · Score: 1

      I am quite aware of how to add umlauts (I write in german quite often), but the *average* people that I know have aren't aware how to pronounce them correctly let alone insert them using alt-codes or some equivlent.

  28. Why do we need a rover for this? by Red_Icculus · · Score: 5, Funny

    We should send Google to search for life on Mars.

    1. Re:Why do we need a rover for this? by poopdeville · · Score: 1

      That was easy.

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    2. Re:Why do we need a rover for this? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      No luck here Ah well, give them a few more years.

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  29. yeah.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I found life up my girlfriends vag... Turned out to be a three week old lump of brie. Excellent vintage. Nutty.

  30. In related news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "...The robot could also spray special dyes to detect life signatures like DNA, protein, lipids, and carbohydrates..."

    In related news, Atacama tribe sues NASA for building spray-painting robot, spoiling natural habitat of ancient desert. NASA plans bigger robot equipped with boom box and head scarf to verify once and for all that life does not exist there. "Instead of trying to find life, we figured we just keep making our robots more and more annoying until some alien shows up with a ray gun."

  31. dyes? by CaptainPinko · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The robot could also spray special dyes to detect life signatures like DNA, protein, lipids, and carbohydrates."

    Hopefully they are non-toxic. Otherwise "Good news: we found life. Bad news: we just killed it". Especially if you are looking for life in difficult landscapes you don't know how endangered something is.

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    1. Re:dyes? by pcmanjon · · Score: 1

      They plan on using iodine and a few other dyes.

      Iodine is known to be toxic.

    2. Re:dyes? by gibson042 · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't worry about that. The general idea is, life will either be abundant or completely absent in a specific environment. It's basically impossible for there to be just one tiny colony, and even if that were the case, we would _never_ be so lucky as to find it and would conclude that Mars is lifeless anyway. So let the autonomous robot overlords spray!

  32. calling capricorn one! by circusboy · · Score: 1

    what do you mean, 'now'? ;-p

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  33. It's ALIVE!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OK That's enough

  34. Note to mods and metamods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Above comment may be sarcasm, but looks more like a creationist troll. Treat accordingly.

  35. Atacama similar to Mars, really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So the Atacama is similar to Mars? Well both may be dry, but the Atacama temperature range is 0..25'C, and Mars is, well, a lot colder?

    Don't just assume this robot will function correctly on Mars at Martian temperatures (or even after the space travel at inter-stellar temperatures (let a alone the radiation)), or that its various detection methods that function happily in the -10..+35'C zone will work happily at Martian temperatures and atmospheric pressures.

    Interesting that the article didn't mention either of these, and a quick scan of the Slashdot replies missed these relatively obvious problems.

    1. Re:Atacama similar to Mars, really? by dsmithorew · · Score: 1
      If NASA decides to send a version of this to Mars, they will absolutely redesign it to make sure it can operate under Martian conditions, and then test it in a thermal/vacuum chamber at real Martian temperatures and pressures before they let it fly. Also, they will subject it to simulated launch vibrations. Testing for radiation endurance is usually done at the microchip level before assembly rather than with the finished instrument.

      This process is somewhat expensive, but an incredible bargain compared to manned spaceflight.

  36. spray-painting robot by dapyx · · Score: 1

    Building spray-painting robot ?
    That must be Will Smith !

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  37. Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is anyone surprised when life is found in other place (than Earth) in the Universe? I think it is the result of a B.S. religious disconnection from reality condition (a psychopath-type belief). Not the kind you get from a University. The kind you get from believing you are the center of the Universe.

    Arrogance is the hallmark of the anti-scientist.

    1. Re:Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently you are a "College Know-It-All Hippie."

  38. Just wondering... by Dewrf · · Score: 1

    i'm just wondering why is it that when probes and satalights and robots takes ages to goto the other planets in are system that they don't send a whole load at once? I mean if it is because we can only send up a certin size and weight why don't we brake up a probe into smaller bits and send each bit up into orbit like we do with the station? then when all the bits are up there we just strap them together and send the whole load off that way even if one or two bots or devices don't work some will and we would have not wasted the months or years it tock to get there?

    1. Re:Just wondering... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Expense. Space is a harsh environment, a lot does not function properly and what is engineered to properly function in that environment is expensive as well as being rather heavy. As transit to other planets takes years the expenses required to send multiple identical probes are more efficiently alloted to the development and sending of a better probe-one with any useful refinements made based on the failures and problems with the previous probes.

  39. I've been there by hey! · · Score: 3, Informative
    It is incredibly dry.Along the coast, there is some very sparse plant life sustained by camachaca -- a mist that blows in off the sea for a few hours in the morning. Except at a few places like Pan de Azucar national park the camachaca doesn't reach very far inland, so plant life drops of dramatically within a km of the coast. A brief hike inland brings you to a blasted, arid, and apprenlty sterile moonscape. I liked to jog inland in the cool, bright and dry early morning.

    If you're anywhere near habitation, it's not unusual to see bits of garbage and bits of toilet paper from campers blowing around -- without moisture to break it down it hangs around forever. Archaeologists have found Inca textiles that had been dropped in the Atacama desert that after 500 year were in nearly perfect condition.

    When I was there, it had been over five years since the last rainfall. Yet the following year, they had a small rain storm. My relatives, who were doing research there, said that within days the desert was completely covered with tiny, colorful flowers. My sister in law said that if you walked among them, the fragence was so overpoweringly sweet it made you retch. And of couse this display wasn't intended for humans -- it was for the vast clouds of insects that emerged from the apparently sterile soil to pollinate the flowers.


    Obviously, there is a tremendous amount of life latent in the soil. There is a huge difference between a few inches of rain per decade and no rain at all.

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  40. Face masks by JThundley · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought the idea of a fog collector was cool, so I did a little more research into the indigenous people. They wear face masks while outside to protect themselves from the elements. Here's a picture.

  41. Not only does it rain... by PeeCee · · Score: 1
    Just an interesting tidbit, it has not rained in the Atacama desert for 100s of years.

    As others have pointed out, it's only some parts of the Atacama that haven't had rain in hundreds of years. It stretches from the coast to the Andes, so it's big enough for some rain to occur.

    In fact, a wonderful event happens every once in a while. Some seeds remain dormant in the sand, and when it rains, they are revived, and thousands of flowers suddenly blossom covering large patches of desert. We call it "desierto florido" (the flowering desert, look it up, here's an english link). It's really quite remarkable.

    - PeeCee

  42. In Other News... by KarmaBlackballed · · Score: 1

    The last existing colony of life in Chile's barren Atacama Desert was located and extinguished today when CMU's robotic rover 'Zoe' sprayed four special dyes on it. However, to the joy of researchers and art lovers, the formerly living mater then took on a pleasing fluorescent glow.

    NASA has ordered two for the next Mars mission.

    In related news, Vulcan industries has expressed an interest in licensing the technology to disinfect commercial kitchen floors.

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  43. Hmmm by NPN_Transistor · · Score: 1

    But remember, the scientists here probably expected to find life, which could have influenced their analysis. Off Topic: I wonder if Nature's web site is down because of all the traffic from Slashdot...

  44. ObTrekQuote by Caspian · · Score: 1

    Data: "I would be happy to, sir. I just love scanning for life forms!
    Life forms! **** You tiny little life forms! **** You precious little life forms! ***** Where are you? *********"

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    1. Re:ObTrekQuote by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Sadly incomplete without a wav link (From a nice page of stuff.)

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  45. Wow... You mean there's life on Earth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like we're not alone!

  46. Question: by darthdavid · · Score: 1

    But does it run Linux?

  47. There used to be life there.... by sgant · · Score: 1

    But it's all gone now since some stupid, dye-spraying robot came in and killed everything.

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  48. Other uses by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

    Cool! Let's hack it to find intelligent life in a managers meeting.

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    1. Re:Other uses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't understand what you mean, but I do feel insulted somehow. But lets discuss the financial impact of dynamic paradigm shifts on synergy. Third quarter results show improvement in the negative cashflow. I have new namecards.

  49. Similar to Mars? by irote · · Score: 1

    In what way is it similar to Mars? It has a breathable, oxygen atmosphere, there is water vapour in that atmosphere, even if not much, the gravity is almost twice as strong. There's some vegetation and at least bacterial life there (as there is even in the driest of deserts). The temperature is conservatively 400 degrees higher in the desert than on Mars.

    Whereas none of the above applies to Mars. So they are, in fact, completely different. Who is it who "is thought" to believe it to be like Mars?