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William Shatner Pitches 'Starfleet Academy' Show

Tycoon Guy writes "TrekToday reports that William Shatner recently pitched an 'Academy' show to Paramount. The series would feature teen versions of the Classic Star Trek characters Kirk, Spock and McCoy, and be set at Starfleet Academy. The studio turned Shatner down, but he's not letting go of the idea: Pocket Books has asked him to write a two-novel series based on the 'Starfleet Academy' concept. Also, Shatner apparently went over the head of Trek head honcho Rick Berman to pitch his idea straight to the head of Paramount - maybe after Enterprise ends and Berman leaves the franchise, the studio will be more inclined to listen to Shatner?"

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  1. I can just imagine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Beer me up Scotty!

  2. Tekwars by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder if Shatner will use the same ghost writer this time?

    1. Re:Tekwars by nametaken · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I wonder if Shatner will use the same ghost writer this time?

      So long as he doesn't sing the theme song.

      Seriously though, I'm glad he went over that douchebag's head.

    2. Re:Tekwars by Winkhorst · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's apparently so little writing ability and creativity in Hollywood that they can't get beyond Star Trek as the only possible metaphor for space-based Sci Fi. There is an incredibly large universe out there, yet it doesn't appear to have enough room for anything other than ONE plot structure based on ONE metaphor? Here's an exercise: Create a program with the dynamism of the original Star Trek with NONE of the structural baggage. Tell me, is this really an impossible challenge?

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    3. Re:Tekwars by Saxerman · · Score: 4, Insightful
      >>It was called Firefly. They cancelled it. >Because it sucked. This is honest opinion, not a troll or flamebait. >Every episode looked like a Mad TV or SNL spoof. It wasn't so bad that it was fit for an MST3K treatment, but it was close.

      Wow. We must not have been watching the same show. At first blush I disliked Firefly due to the "Space Western" theme as I thought it sounded rather contrived. Why would we unlock tech in space flight and colonization and yet regress technologically?

      Fortunately my friends convinced me to watch the show, and I was hooked. After I understood the story, it made perfect sense. I enjoyed how they accepted the advanced technologies of space travel but did not let them dominate the story. I enjoyed how the story stayed focused on the characters, and I especially enjoyed watching the characters and their relationships develop.

      I'm not sure why you felt Firefly seemed like a space comedy. There were certainly some very funny moments but the thrust of the series seemed to focus on the serious morale issues of working within the grey areas of the law and surviving between those groups that considered the laws absolute and the criminal elements that would rather ignore the laws completely. If anything I would think you would take exception of the melodrama, considering how you cite that grievance against the Star Trek franchise. I also agree that Star Trek was too melodramatic for my tastes, which is why I considered Firefly a welcome change. I didn't feel like the script was talking down to me and appreciate how they directly tackled hard issues like religion ("You don't 'fix' the Bible, River.") and didn't make me feel like I was being preached too.

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  3. Academy.. by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny
    William Shatner recently pitched an 'Academy' show to Paramount.

    Um.. I read this and immediately had a disturbing vision

    The series would feature teen versions of the Classic Star Trek characters Kirk, Spock and McCoy, and be set at Starfleet Academy.

    Ah, not what I thought, but not exactly a thrilling concept.

    The studio turned Shatner down, but he's not letting go of the idea: Pocket Books has asked him to write a two-novel series based on the 'Starfleet Academy' concept. Also, Shatner apparently went over the head of Trek head honcho Rick Berman to pitch his idea straight to the head of Paramount - maybe after Enterprise ends and Berman leaves the franchise, the studio will be more inclined to listen to Shatner?"

    Maybe if he pitched it as a reality show, a la The Apprentice. That might be entertaining...

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    1. Re:Academy.. by wankledot · · Score: 5, Funny
      "Maybe if he pitched it as a reality show, a la The Apprentice. That might be entertaining..."

      Nowthat qualifies as a disturbing vision. What would a bunch of trekkies be fighting for the chance to be? Captain of an imaginary starship? Chance to date a woman? A shower? Associate producer of the next doomed Trek series?

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  4. Love his style by NormalVisual · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You gotta give Shatner credit for totally dissing Berman like that. :-)

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  5. God love that manwhore! by Nijika · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think Shatner is by far, by far, my favorite Trekker. He's got a sense of humor about himself and his work, yet he's not even remotely afraid to take chances.

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    1. Re:God love that manwhore! by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny

      yet he's not even remotely afraid to take chances

      Based on some of the things he's done I think thats more complete lack of an embarassment gene rather than lack of fear.

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    2. Re:God love that manwhore! by Politburo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      See: Adam West, Family Guy.

  6. Oh God.. by doormat · · Score: 4, Funny

    The OC meets Star Trek. May God save us from such garbage.

    (Its not like the women's starfleet uniforms are all that revealing anyways)

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    1. Re:Oh God.. by Guppy06 · · Score: 5, Informative

      "(Its not like the women's starfleet uniforms are all that revealing anyways)"

      You forget: If we're going back to the early days of Jim & Co, we're going back to the days of miniskirts and green slave women. :)

  7. So by aftk2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Which one of them will be doing all of the crazy sound effects? And what about the crazy gun nut? "Tackleberry!"

    On a more sobering note, I find it deeply disturbing that I was able to remember this much about Police Academy, at a moment's notice.

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  8. Let it die. by nberardi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think, as sad as it might be, that StarTrek has really come to an end. It has had a good 50 some odd years of episodes. Let it die with at least some dignity.

  9. I like the idea...not the setting.... by haplo21112 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...the idea would be better served in the pre/post TNG/DS9 time frame and with new characters....perhaps with camio here or there from the established charaters.

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  10. Star Trek 90210 by snuf23 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a horrible idea. Just what would be needed to completely kill off the franchise. How about a whole show full of Wesley Crusher teen angst in a Federation uniform.
    Visually it would be hard to jive with the old series, and having actors who are trying to potray the old characters might lead to pure campiness.
    Ok so now everyone can tell how it would be great if they did it right - but come on people, you KNOW they wouldn't do it right.
    I'm just hoping whatever new series comes out has Shatner singing the theme song. Hell, just have him sing the lyrics to the orignal theme from the '60s series.

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    1. Re:Star Trek 90210 by jfengel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, they'd botch it. Not gonna argue with you on that one.

      I agree that trying to make the old characters synch up would be hard. Star Trek is never about the 22nd/23rd/24th centuries; it's always about today. So having "young" Kirk have more mature attitudes (by our standards) than "old" Kirk would be disconcerting.

      Besides, they'd have the same problem that they did on Enterprise: you can't place a character in real jeopardy if you already know that they survive. That's supposedly why they renamed T'Pau to T'Pol. Personally, I'd have loved to have seen the great leader of Vulcan as a young woman, to see what made her great, and screw the suspense factor, but they saw it otherwise. And then wrote absolutely nothing interesting for her to do.

      Still, I like the idea of setting a series at Star Fleet Academy. There are a billion ways to do it wrong, and only a few to do it right, but there are some good opportunities there. Just like both Voyager and Enterprise had good opportunities that rotted behind unimaginative plotting, ratings-grabbing, and a failure to understand what Trek really is.

      So, sadly, as a Trek fan from before the proliferation, I gotta agree: let it rest.

  11. Re:Hey Bill? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just to add to my own post:

    The series would feature teen versions of the Classic Star Trek characters Kirk, Spock and McCoy, and be set at Starfleet Academy.

    This doesn't make much sense. From the series,we have a very strong impression that Spock and Kirk met for the first time on the Enterprise. (Note the use of "the". That "other show" sounds stupid without it.) The episode that firmly established Pike's command before Kirk's only bolsters the feeling that Kirk inherited Spock instead of hand picking him as he probably did with Bones.

    In short, this sounds like a very fanboyish concept. Let JMZ take the helm and we'll see if the old girl still has any antimatter left in the ol' warp engines.

  12. Romulan Ale. by MrJerryNormandinSir · · Score: 4, Funny

    Frat parties with green slave girls and rumulan ale.

  13. Shatner wants MORE Trek? by Nastard · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't get behind that.

  14. Re:yea!!! by Rei · · Score: 5, Funny

    Come.. now......... It has long been.. recognized.. that William Shatner is an actor, of amazing... talent, a talent that simply dwarfs... all of the rest of his contemporaries. Who.. else.. could have figured out that the way to display.. ultimate.. pain, is to half kneel, and thrust your elbows as far forward as... physically.. possible.. ?

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  15. It's like Muppet Babies. by EarwigTC · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's like Muppet Babies. Only preachy and more farfetched.

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  16. No no no no no!!!! by MagicDude · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Do NOT do a prequel to the TOS cast. If enterprise has taught us anything, it's that trying to write history to canon is full of pitfalls, and the nerds will never forgive even the smallest of errors. You'll also run into the problem that people had with enterprise in that the technology looked more advanced than TOS, simple because computer graphics were more advanced.

    Also, it's a bit of a stretch to presume that all the TOS cast would be at the academy together. Kirk and Spock maybe, but all the junior officers are much younger than Kirk, Spock, and Bones (McCoy would have been at starfleet medical anyway).

    An awesome show would be an academy show during the dominion war of an unknown group of cadets. So rather than being a futuristic "Saved by the Bell", you can follow these cadets in some of the extended duties they would have had to undertake during the war. We could even see how the attack on Starfleet Headquarters happened, since we only saw the aftermath in DS9.

  17. Let J. Michael Straczynski (B5) have a go by metoc · · Score: 4, Informative

    I personally think that J. Michael Straczynski should have a go, he pulled off B5 on a shoestring. See his comments here http://www.joeuser.com/Forums.aspx?ForumID=10&AID= 65211. Imagine what he could do with Paramounts financing and marketing muscle.

    Like wise I would like to see Jose Whedon thoughts and Quentin Tarantino's ideas. Even Jonathan Frakes has demonstrated enough talent as a director and producer with Roswell to put together a good team.

  18. You're thinking "New Shatner" by GuyMannDude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think Shatner is by far, by far, my favorite Trekker. He's got a sense of humor about himself and his work, yet he's not even remotely afraid to take chances.

    Really, I think that's a bit shortsighted. Shatner has only become that way in the last decade or so. Prior to that, he's tried to distance himself from the Trek fans as much as possible. Compared to how much he has benefited from Trek fandom, Shatner has given very little back. Contrast this with George Takei, Deforest Kelly, or Jimmy Doohan who have always been big supporters of Trek fandom. In a previous message, I talked about how Jimmy Doohan took it upon himself to use his fame to help a single fan back to health. Shatner would never do anything like this -- then or now. I'll admit that Shatner is likeable but that's been a recent thing. Read Takei's book sometime and listen to the shit that Shatner used to do. Shatner didn't even show up at Roddenberry's funeral, for chrissake!

    You're entitled to your opinion but I'm baffled how you can consider him a Trekker at all, let alone your favorite.

    GMD

  19. Tiny Toon Adventures! by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
    > "They're tiny, they're toony,
    they're all a little loony"
    And Sunday afternoony,
    We're invading UPN!
    Rick Berman's adventures,
    Complying with the censors,
    With schedule misadventures,
    It's Starfleet Academy!

    So here's UPN, where crappy bling bling makes for art,
    Black sitcoms and reality shows - it's like FOX, but dark!
    We're spitting invective, the phasers are defective,
    The franchise isn't dead, Jim, but it's lost. it's. heart.

    (Kirk's toupee's from Wal-mart.)

  20. "Kobayashi Maru" book did this very well. by sampson7 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One of my favorite Star Trek books, called The Kobayashi Maru, involved several of the main characters re-telling stories of their academy days. It is really a compelling little book and extremely well written.

    Several of the stories focus on the Kobayashi Maru doomsday scenario that's referenced in one of the Star Trek movies, but several deal with other aspects of a Star Fleet Academy education.

    If Shatner had this type of material in in mind then the project might actually be worth while. Anyway, it's a great read for any Star Trek fan -- the author really captures each character's own nuances.

    Just remember, it can't be any worse than the first (and for me, last) episode of Enterprise.

  21. Smallville better than Superman IMHO by N8F8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to hate Superman. I liked Batman and human superheros better. What kind of a turtured soul can you have when you can't even be hurt? How about being uncorrupted by ultimate power? No, Smallville gets it right. Internal conflict between a evil destiny and being raised with a apple pie morality. Good stuff. It also helps explain his relationship with Lex Luthor.

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  22. Who's this "Kirk" guy people talk about? by sgant · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did Shatner play him or something in an obscure show and it's an "in" thing to bring it up? Kind of like bringing up Cat from Zero Wing?

    I mean, come on! Shatner will always be known for one character and one character only: Denny Crane!

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