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Inside the PSP

fogez writes "We have seen numerous hacks for the PSP in the last couple days, but have you see what is inside this marvel? This might scare off many new PSP owners, but if you are curious and want some direction, this article is a good place to start. See the PSP laid bare, from LCD to wireless network card. BTW, any attempt to imitate will result in a void warranty :)"

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  1. Criminal... by wyldeone · · Score: 5, Funny

    Am I the only person who feels that this is almost criminal?

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    1. Re:Criminal... by TimeTraveler1884 · · Score: 5, Funny
      yeah, destroying a perfectly good device is anarchy in action.
      It's like book burning when you think about it. Except without the fire... and without the books.

      Those crazy anarchists, PSPs are for kids.

    2. Re:Criminal... by Lehk228 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Am I the only person who feels that this is almost criminal?

      nah they haven't bought that law.... yet.

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  2. Sudden popularity by Look+KG486 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't believe how much run Paint Shop Pro is getting lately.

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  3. um no by NoGuffCheck · · Score: 4, Funny

    but have you see what is inside this marvel?

    I havent seen, im so excited... is it.. um.. electronics?

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    1. Re:um no by CMRichar · · Score: 5, Funny
      is it.. um.. electronics?

      *Bzzzt!* Sorry, you're wrong. If you had bothered to RTFA, you would know that the PSP is actually powered by 14 extremely tiny, very angry weasels. Noone is sure how Sony has managed to harness the power of the weasels for good, but I, for one, welcome our new micro-weasel overlords.

      But, as a parting gift, I give to you the knowledge that the people have been sacked. And I, for one welcome our new posting overlords!

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  4. Obvious? by Upaut · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Sony explicitly outlaws any modifications to their PSP. If you don't believe me, check out page 15 of the manual where they state, "No authorization for the analysis or modification of the system, or the analysis and use of circuit configurations, is provided.""

    Not much of a legal threat. I take it this simply mean the obvious - that Sony voids the warranty if we start moding. Outlaws might of been a bit strong in this context, prohibits would of been a bit better. Not that Sony will have a black van show up in front of a teenager hackers door...
    Nice pice of technology, all things considered. Next all we need is for someone to tinker with the buttons to increase the sensitivity of the leftmost button on the right side, which I hear from many is significantly less sensitive then the rest, which adversely affects game-play.

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  5. Rights by deutschemonte · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How long do you think it will be before hacking/reverse engineering like this is made illegal DMCA style?

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    1. Re:Rights by Total_Wimp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I doubt it will ever be illegal. We're a nation of tinkerers. Your dad and mine took apart their cars. Our grandfathers took apart their houses. We take apart our computers.

      People will be able to convince the old timers that reverse engineering code ("you mean like spies?") is criminal and they'll be able to convince our dads that copying and selling a patended machine is criminal, but our dads and grandpas wont stand still for a law the won't let them take the cover off of something they own. They may not understand electronics, but they understand ownership. They may not want to take the cover off of their TV but they'll be damned if someone trys to tell them they can't.

      TW

    2. Re:Rights by prockcore · · Score: 5, Funny

      Our grandfathers took apart their houses.

      My grandfather helped take apart the german war machine. If that isn't a DMCA violation, I don't know what is.

  6. Helpful Information by LewsTherinKinslayer · · Score: 5, Funny

    BTW, any attempt to imitate will result in a void warranty :)

    First off, thank you Captain Obvious.

    1. Re:Helpful Information by zaxios · · Score: 5, Funny

      And thanks for pointing out that it was obvious, Captain Obvious.

  7. Now that we've seen the PSP nude, by syntap · · Score: 4, Funny

    How do we get nudes on the PSP?

    1. Re:Now that we've seen the PSP nude, by michaeldot · · Score: 4, Informative
  8. First line of the article by bonch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The PSP has redefined handheld gaming.

    Uh...it has? Because it plays movies/music and browses pictures?

    What aspect of handheld gaming has been "redefined" because of this?

    Not only have these things been done before, but the PSP hasn't redefined anything other than the idea of selling PS1 games I already own. I'm sure it's a nice system. But it's not redefining handheld gaming, other than redefining the phrase "customer service" (Sony says you're shit out of luck over dead pixels, unlike Nintendo who will happily fix your unit).

    I heard these same overhyped comments about the DS, which actually does do some pretty cool things (which also had been done before).

    1. Re:First line of the article by Total_Wimp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Uh...it has?

      Yep, it has, just like the iPod. The iPod was little more than a copycat product as far as technology was concerned, but it delivered just about exactly what people wanted, which was something that had somehow eluded previous products.

      The PSP does almost exactly the same thing. High quality 3D gaming, a bigger screan, better controls, more expandability and more media do not, in and of themselves, make this product genre redefining. Delivering almost exactly what people are looking for does.

      The real proof will be in the demographic numbers. If Sony hits a big market beyond kids then it will be a redefining product by definition. If it cuts into the handheld DVD market then it will be a genre redefiner. If Nintendo files chapter-11 then it will be a redefiner. If none of these things come to pass then it was just a really cool product.

      TW

  9. Re:Hardware Hacking warning. by damiam · · Score: 4, Informative

    All it says is "no authorization is provided". You don't need authorization to take apart a device you bought and own. They can void your warrenty, but they have no legal recourse whatsoever (and they don't seem to be claiming that they do).

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  10. Amateurs don't carry static charges? by TexVex · · Score: 5, Funny
    From TFA:
    If you are a professional, then you might want to ground yourself using a static strap to prevent any sudden static discharges from killing your PSP.
    Because your skill in hardware hackery determines how much of a static charge you can build up?
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  11. I Got Yer "Authorization" Right Here... by ewhac · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "While taking apart the device is not technically reverse-engineering, Sony explicitly outlaws any modifications to their PSP. If you don't believe me, check out page 15 of the manual where they state, "No authorization for the analysis or modification of the system, or the analysis and use of circuit configurations, is provided."

    Very funny. Fortunately, as we all know, Sony does not have the right to make, much less enforce, this request. "Authorization" for opening and/or modifying the machine is embodied in the receipt from the retailer. Sony can void your warranty, of course, but you knew that when you started unscrewing the thing.

    Let us not take such histrionics seriously; it gives people the wrong idea.

    Schwab

  12. Re:Linux? by SilentChris · · Score: 4, Funny

    Forget Linux -- how about getting the system back together again? Did you see what he had at the end of the article? A pile of parts.

    I mean, I don't mind that (I'd take the same tack with him -- see if I could hack better Wi-Fi, new input devices, etc.) but I can imagine the average guy getting to step 6 with a pile of parts on his desk reading "tune in next week...". *AW CRAP!*

  13. Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "What aspect of handheld gaming has been "redefined" because of this?"

    "Reasonably Priced" for one.

  14. Re:Easy to read and print by nonother · · Score: 5, Funny

    All hail the genius who clicked the Print Format on the original link.

  15. Redefining Handheld Gaming? by billstewart · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Let's see, you're holding a small thing with a screen on it, twitching your thumbs for a long time, and making noises unless you use a headset. To me that sounds like you're following the *same* definitions of hand-held thumb candy that have been around for a long time, but the picture's better :-)

    Wireless is potentially a real change - if it's doing things with multiplayer games that you couldn't do before in the handheld space, that's somewhat new, though they've been done with console/pc-based games, so the main new feature is that you can play them from somewhere other than at home, as long as there's a WiFi connection you can use. I assume it's supporting downloadable games as opposed to just cartridges, though they could do things with Memory Stick if they wanted, and that's a bit of a change, but as long as the prices are similar, it's not really much change.

    Cell-phone wireless data standards would be more revolutionary (if less compatible) - you could do game things like EA's Majestic or whatever it was that have location-dependent clues or interaction, or could do things with nearby people or provide portable games that let you talk to the people you're fragging\\\\\\\\cooperating with the way wired games let you do, or you could exchange pictures of where you are when you're somewhere other than your basement.

    But building tools that can be used for cool games is one problem - writing games that actually turn out to be cool, or turn out to be popular, is a much different skill, and can be a lot harder to get right.

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  16. Old news and better site for this - lik-sang by gorim · · Score: 4, Informative

    Lik-sang tore a PSP apart back in mid-December.

    Here http://www.lik-sang.com/psp.html/

    Less annoying adds and page flipping. Everything is on one page.

  17. Anarchy isn't crime or destruction by billstewart · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Using the hardware for something new and creative that the designers never thought of is anarchy in action. Finding ways to use it that escape the "intellectual property" model the games companies want is also anarchy in action.

    Disassembling somebody *else's* PSP is criminal. Disassembling your own is merely art. Or Boredom in Action.

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    1. Re:Anarchy isn't crime or destruction by mshawatmit · · Score: 4, Funny

      Disassembling somebody *else's* PSP is criminal. Disassembling your own is merely art. Or Boredom in Action.

      "Disassemble! No!!!! Number 5 no disassemble."
      I think we just killed a PSP--hope it wasn't alive

  18. God that's detailed by Manuel+Lafond · · Score: 5, Funny

    basicly, all this article says is "take your screwdriver, find the screws and unscrew them" it actually changed my life

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  19. Re:Sony still focusing on the wrong things by be-fan · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are a number of inaccuracies in your post.

    I feel that the PSP continues Sony's trend of focusing on the wrong things when designing a game console.
    Yes, because Sony was *so* off base with the PS2...

    Developers are already complaining about the slow transfer rates, and the load times are VERY long compared to other handhelds.

    There are already games in Japan (Tales of Eternia), that have no load time. The PSP has a large amount of RAM. Developers *can* use it to minimize load time.

    The physical placement of the square button sacrifices gameplay for aesthetics, something which former-sony-head Ken Kutaragi admitted.

    I have a PSP in front of me right now. The square button feels the same as every other button. It was a problem in the Japanese consoles, but it's fixed in the 1001 revision.

    Thirdly, the short battery life is a major downside, which is related to the UMD itself.

    The UMD, if it is descended from the Minidisc, is not the problem. I have a minidisc player that gets 40 hours on a single AA battery. The UMD disc is even smaller and lighter, and should thus use even less power. It's the heavy-graphics that cause shorter battery life (see IGN's battery-life review). Of course, if you want longer battery lives, you can always play games with DS-level graphics.

    Finally, the system spits out the UMD when you slightly twist the console, so be careful in public places or anywhere there is a distance between the system and the ground.

    No it doesn't. Again, I have one right here. The PSP is very rigid --- I just tried to twist it, and nothing happened. If you really do manage to eject the disc by twisting it, then you're doing it hard enough to cause serious damage to the console. There is no way you can get that sort of torsion in regular use.

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  20. Re:PS1 emulation? by tepples · · Score: 4, Informative

    the PSP isn't a general-purpose computing device

    Turing say what? Or are you referring to signature requirements?

    and its processor is quite a bit underpowered compared to a desktop PC.

    333 MHz for PSP vs. 33 MHz for PS1 looks like it'd have the required tenfold margin of speed difference for interpretive emulation. Video (GPU and GTE cores) can be virtualized, as in PocketNES on GBA. True, the PS2 doesn't run PS1 games in emulation, but a 300 MHz PC managed to run at least some N64 games in emulation during the days of UltraHLE.

  21. Re:Waiting for this by rworne · · Score: 4, Funny
    Why do that? Replace it with a bag of dirt in a ziploc bag with "puto" written on it. Then return it to Best Buy.

    /me wonders if anyone remembers that story.

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  22. PSP can execute from the MS drive by bindster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was at the Game Developer's Conference a few weeks ago, and the guys at the Sony booth were showing off the PSP. One of the things they had there was the dev-kit, which appears to be a regular VAIO desktop with a UMD drive. It also comes with a special PSP which has an umbilical to the desktop and subsequently, has no UMD drive.
    I asked one of the guys if the unit can execute code off a memory stick and he confirmed that this is possible. He then went on to add that this functionality is disabled in the consumer unit. Fascinating.

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  23. PSP modification outlawed? by karstux · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Disassembling your own is merely art.
    Well, I wonder about that. Using common sense,I'd be inclined to agree, but TFA says:

    Sony explicitly outlaws any modifications to their PSP. If you don't believe me, check out page 15 of the manual where they state, "No authorization for the analysis or modification of the system, or the analysis and use of circuit configurations, is provided."

    Can they really do that? Is there any legal basis for this? With software, it seems to be like this: when you purchase a program, you don't own the program, but are merely granted a license to use it. As such, the licensor can set limits to what you are allowed to do with the software.

    However, the medium you buy the software on, as I understand it, is entirely your property.

    So how does this translate to a hardware purchase, like the PSP? Of course, the hardware design is Sony's intellectual property. As is the firmware and all other software stored on a PSP. However, the PSP itself ought to be my property, and it should be within my rights to do with it however I may please. Including any modification and extension of it.

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    1. Re:PSP modification outlawed? by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 5, Interesting

      IANAL

      This kind of thing is a manipulation of the common-law system that results in, basically, legislation being written by the Sony corporate legal department.

      The USA uses common law, which works almost entirely by precedent. If a new issue (such as a new license, like the PSP's) comes up, the first court ruling a judge enters to address it is considered to be the law until it's legislated by the government or overruled by a higher court.

      Sony (and other companies that have done this such as MS) write a license agreement that they would like to see as a law, find the most business-friendly jurisdiction in which to sue someone, and wait for someone from that jurisdiction that can't afford to appeal to violate it. They sue them, the judge gives them their precedent, and voila, instant legal credibility for this sort of corporate fascism.