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Games That Shoot Back

syousef writes "A shooting game that shoots back, delivering electric shocks through the player's hips when they're shot, is being used for recruitment (Hey shooting people is fun) and training by the U.S. military. There's talk of developing it into a PC game. Here's a quote from the article: 'It has the same power as a stun gun. It knocks you down. You have to continue to work through the pain and keep on fighting, as that is what you need to do - to keep on fighting even when wounded.' I guess in Soviet America, games shoot you. How many law suits would this cause based on unknown heart conditions? I also hope there's some sort of built-in safety in case the thing starts to zap you repeatedly. (Deadly endless loop, anyone?)"

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  1. Suicide Booth by fembots · · Score: 5, Funny

    If this is brought to the PC games, I hope they also include a suicide feature so that I can finish myself or team mates who are suffering from electric shock.

    "Timmy, forget about the TK rules, kill me please, please!"

  2. America's Army from Hell by sumdeus · · Score: 5, Funny

    America's Army Part II -- The Final Recruitment. If you manage to live through this video game you are worthy of a sandy death.

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  3. Malware by biryokumaru · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who will be the first to write malware that actually kills people?

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    1. Re:Malware by msim · · Score: 5, Funny

      sweet merciful crap, you guys think too much.

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  4. Uh oh by dg41 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someone forgot to turn the safety protocols back on.

  5. Ouch by Golias · · Score: 5, Funny

    Worst.
    Playstation.
    Accessory.
    Ever.

    Call me when they have a peripheral to go with Hentai games.

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  6. Shocking! by Guyle · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is an incredibly electrifying development. The gaming community must be arcing with excitement! I, for one, simply cannot wait to be plugged into such action and adventure. Not to mention all of the amped up individuals bolting to recruiting stations to try their hand. This kind of technology blows away all of the current games by far. Let's hope that development is met with little resistance and that the capacitance of the developers' creativity is immeasurable.

    (Yes, I know, it's horrible. The line to shoot me starts over there. *point*)

  7. Natural Evolution by purduephotog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Pain is one of the greatest behavior modifiers there is.

    The whole point of a FPS trainer is to educate reality out of an individual. When you fire a pistol, sometimes your body will jerk the hand in anticipation of the shot. Dryfiring a few hundred times is enough to condition the pull back out, but it will eventually creep back.

    I'm remember reading that 3/4 of the soldiers in WWI and WWII didn't aim at anything. They were conditioned to shoot at little bullseyes, not people. Notice how the military trains on human shaped targets now? Human-aim-fire-response.

    This is all good, believe it or not.

    Getting shot in a game there is no pain and risky behaviours can continue to flourish. Getting hit with a live round is most likely to inflict pain. Therefore, make the game as realistic as possible without killing your candidate :)

    Will I play this? Nope. I already take Americas Army seriously and do my darndest not to die. But then again I'm not one of those people that beg the S-24 in order to get a pistol, either ;)

    1. Re:Natural Evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      He was talking about the Nazi soldiers. Of course, the Americans could kill 3 enemies with a single spit while somersaulting out of a burning building with a broken leg and a pretty French girl on the shoulder... It's all documented quite well in WWII Hollywood movies.

  8. This would be great for fencing. by VidEdit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My geeky $.02:

    Maybe a shock belt could be used to improve the increasingly unrealistic sport of Olympic fencing.

    While fencing is not a video game, it lacks a certain realism in the sense that there is not a significant enough penalty for getting hit. In epee' fencers learn to do many very silly attacks that put their face in danger so that they can attempt a toe shot.

    By attaching a shock belt to the electronic scoring equipment that is already used, fencers would learn to use the kind of caution that they might in a real duel.

    Of course that doesn't solve the problem of sacrifice that is encouraged by making all of the target area worth the same number of points, or the unrealistic use of the coupe--where a fencer often whips his foil into a "J" shape to touch his opponent on the back. But the shock belt may be a step in the right direction along with some other changes.

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    1. Re:This would be great for fencing. by tyman · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...but don't they already have electric fences?

  9. Been done by DavidLeblond · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mattel created a device that would shock gamers a long time ago for the NES. They called it the Power Glove.

  10. Re:The Kevorkian game by -kertrats- · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...increase their market share...

    I'm not sure you quite understand how euthanasia works...

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  11. imagine the (mis)applications... by jamesh · · Score: 5, Funny

    DRM. You can download anything you want for free, provided the RIAA gets to shock you on a per megabyte basis - negative conditioning.

    Educational games. Kids are hooked up to the computer and the computer quizzes them, zapping them every time they make a mistake.

    Extreme games - apply the electrodes to areas of the body much more sensitive than they would otherwise be attached to.

    Exercise games - electrodes attached such that they automatically stimulate and tone the muscles while you work/play.

    I could go on, but i'll spare you.

  12. Re:Ouch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    You want giant tentacle penises to erupt from your PS2 and rape you?

    I guess even sex-crazed demonic octopi need love.

  13. Heart Conditions? No problem! by Blind_Io_42 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Heart conditions are not a problem, just go to Start > Settings > Control Pannel > Game Hardware > Shock Feedback Options and enable the Difibulator option.
    In the event of cadiac arrest the computer will automatically re-start your heart, call the paramedics, reserve a room at the hospital, notify your family, and cancel your dinner reservations. That is unless the game locks up.

    Lag would also be a pain if it happens right when you die.

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  14. This is better. by Frodo+Crockett · · Score: 5, Funny

    while(1)
    {
    shockuser();
    }

    No chance of overflow with this loop.

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  15. Camping (good point) by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll bet everyone will be camping all the time.

    You mean "hiding behind something bulletproof", just like most soldiers do in a REAL WAR unless the enemy is chasing them or their officers are ordering them to move? A real firefight between a dozen soldiers can take hours, since getting anyone to "rush" is both stupid and nearly impossible.

    That's why "elite units" are elite, because they will actually voluntarily put themselves in harm's way rather than only trying to stay alive. Consequently, they can make short work of conscripts and half-trained farm boys.

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  16. Loss of voluntary muscle control by Mal-2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well as you noticed, it does make you cramp up. If you were standing, it was probably difficult to stay that way. Had you been walking or running, the sudden jolt would almost certainly make you lose your balance, which makes it quite difficult to attack someone. That is the point -- not to stun someone, but to forcibly remove their conscious control over major skeletal muscles. This only needs to take place for a few seconds in most circumstances, allowing time to surround the tas-ee and (once the juice is off) pin him down. This isn't to say that the pain doesn't play a role in it, it's quite useful as an intimidation tactic. But the real point is to stop what someone is doing without the high risk of fatal injury that comes from firearms (even with beanbags and the like).

    Another aspect is that there is no scatter, there is no projectile penetration, and there is no risk of shooting the neighbor or wife through the wall accidentally. If firing into a crowded space, or even into a fistfight, you wanna make sure you hit just your target (but if you miss and hit someone else, you don't have to zap them).

    Mal-2

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