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Skypecasting - P2P File Sharing
shashark writes "Technologically savvy users are merging these technologies to "Skypecast",
using Skype's service to distribute recordings across the internet for free.
This allows expert users to run their own mini-radio stations, which can be
accessed by any Skype user. Skype does not actively support these uses, but
encourages its users to find new applications for their service. Other possibilities discussed by Skypecasters at
Unbound Spiral or
Moodle are to turn an MP3 player into a radio station for any of Skype's 29
million registered users to dial up using their Skype line. Instructions also
are available on how to record a personal soap opera and use Skype to distribute
it en masse. Even more ominously, some Skypecasters record Skype calls and post
them on the Internet."
I sure hope the RIAA doesn't ask the Federal Govnerment for wiretapping rights to see if VoIP calls are really U2 songs. [shivvers in corner]
That link should be .html, not .htm
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" Even more ominously, some Skypecasters record Skype calls and post them on the Internet.""
Remember: Blame the users, not the technology.
Wonder if the various wiretapping rules will eventually come into play. And if not, why not?
It's not even difficult to setup -- there is a Winamp plugin -- pick it and hit "Play" and you have a radio station.
Doing it this way requires to to plug a physical device (MP3 player, radio) into your soundcard..
Bringing you a friendly message from the Apple-zealot: In the name of the great Apple. We were first, and it's called PodCasting. Not mp3-streaming, internet-radio, skypecasting or anyother non apple-related term.
why is it that two of the urls have dw.com.com redirects? smells fishy to me
Skype calls are encrypted end-end. Even if RIAA gets the wiretapping rights to see if VoIP calls are really U2 songs, it'll be hard for them to snoop in. And skype is just a beginning.
With ever increasing options of sharing digital media, RIAA really has only two options left-
* Get the govt to ban *any* kind of peer-peer activity. Might be a possibilty, esp given those money bags involved. Don't underestimate your govt. yet.
* Embrace the change. Move out of media-brokerage business and let the artists provide their creations on whatever media they choose. Change Happens.
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All your music are belong to us.
If you believe in privacy, and believe you have "nothing to hide" at the same time, you're a goddammed idiot
i don't use skype so i don't know... but i assume, it being a telephone-oriented service, that it has a hard-limited bitrate?
usually telephone conversations only need 8 KHz recordings, in mono. If converted to mp3, this would result in FAR inferior-sounding recordings for music than CD-quality.
but, like i said, maybe this is not a limit.. i don't really know.
in any case, why do people always have to take a decent service and twist it into something the authorities will find "questionable"? It's like they are trying to help discourage VOIP or something by exposing its potential for misuse. Use it for what it was intended -- telephone conversations -- and no one will care. I imagine the current P2P technologies are better adapted for spreading music anyways.. but i guess the rule is, if there's a crack, someone will always fill it. humans are weird.
This sounds like some marketing droid at Skype trying to invent a phenomenon by pretending that it already exists.
Didn't the government already rule that wiretapping applies to internet communications?
And having a phone would only stregnthen that argument for requiring ISP companies to have technology which allows for wiretaps.
But I don't see how VoIP will help P2P, it is just between 2 people, not like Napster was, or BitTorrent where one person shares, and anyone can d/l.
Rosco: "If brains were gunpowder, Enos couldn't blow his nose."
Is there a way to fit an MP3 client backend to a Skype server frontend? Then that middleware could put existing Shoutcast (Icecast, etc) servers onto the Skype network: instant content for those 29M Skype consumers. An easy way to improve one's up/download ratios - quantitywise, at least.
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A lot of people here are questioning the worth and/or validity of skypecasting, citing out technologies that will do the same thing, same as, I believe, Winamp, and other players that will allow you to stream your audio to some other person on the net.
But skype is p2p, so that instead of you streaming directly to your audience, listeners may stream from you AND some other listeners, obviously minimizing the bandwidth required of the originator. The other alternative software packages are client-server, one to one, correct?
Also, one thing that makes this worthwhile as a slashdot topic is that there is already an established base of about 30 million skype users. So, this could serve as a jumpstart, just as napster did bittorrent, even though napster, like skype is proprietary....
eat shiat and bark at the moon
Humans come equipped with aural input devices, called ears. These devices are NOT protected against copyright infringement activities! Looks like we need to get into the brain and change the bios around a bit to fix that.....
Why did shashark ebmed the links to Unbound Spiral and Moodle (defanged here) in dw.com.com SPYWARE links? Is this the sleaziest submission scam yet, which actually forces us to install spyware to follow a frontpage Slashdot link? Are all those jokes about soulsucking NYT registrations really true about shashark? This should be the abuse that finally forces Slashdot editors to check the links on submissions.
"dw.com.com is advertising-oriented spyware (adware) that downloads and displays new advertisements in a popup window while a user is browsing the Web. dw.com.com is difficult to remove, as it does not provide an uninstaller."
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PeerCast does try to do what you describe, but last time I checked it didn't do a very good job of it.
Big deal. Flycasting has your Shoutcasting beat by decades.
Come to think of it, so does Plaster Casting (no, I'm not going to link to that, you smutty-minded Slashdotters).
*cast has overtaken 'cyber', 'my' and even 'i' as the new king of overused technology *fixes.
Does anyone know how legitimate internet radio in North America really is?
Radio stations pay a fee to broadcast music. The companies that broadcast the music you hear in stores pay the same fee. Churches pay a fee so that people can play and sing music. What makes internet radio different? There is an established system where you must pay to broadcast other people's music in public.
I'll probably get modded as a troll but it is a serious question.
The point of this is that someone wanted to use the word "Skypecast".
...In a way that has little to do with any of the advantages of modern peer to peer distribution, as Skype uses P2P merely for point to point, one to few transport.
Look at the the "bullet points" from the article:
>>A growing number of people are sharing the digital music on MP3 players and other music devices using freely available software and Skype, a free Internet phone service.
How are mp3 players part of this? Sure, you could rip the stream from skype, tag it and save it, then transfer it to your iPod, but it would be a pain and sound pretty bad.
The enthusiasts are borrowing heavily from another personal broadcasting phenomenon called podcasting, in which digital recordings are posted on a Web site for download to a variety of music players, including desktop PCs and portable gadgets like Apple Computer's wildly popular iPod.
They're borrowing more heavily from kids who used to play songs for each other over the telephone, with similar results.
"Skypecasters," as they call themselves, use Skype's peer-to-peer telephone network to distribute recordings over the Internet directly to each other for free.
This is a case of someone tossing around buzzwords without understanding the technology, in an "iPods! P2P! Skype! Isn't it all just so neat!" kind of way.
I give it a week before some bonehead is yammering on about how "BlueCasting" is all the rage.
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Australia has had a Shortwave Receiver
(for verifyably licensed Radio Amateurs,
it's also a remotely controlled HF/VHF/UHF
transceiver) based on Skype for yonks!
(Make a Skype call to it to listen...
access a web page to control the radio
and (if licensed) transmit. A bit like
the receive-only JavaRadio (Javeradio?
these days...?)
I guess this is a bit different, since
the radio-based Skype applications are
Real Time, not recorded.