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Longhorn Preview

prostoalex writes "News.com has up a preview of Microsoft's current build of Longhorn operating system, from Jim Allchin, Microsoft group vice president. The timing is not coincidental with Apple's Tiger release, as Allchin pointed out some advantages that Microsoft had over Apple's OS: 'High on the list of features are security enhancements, improved desktop searching and organizing, and better methods for laptops to roam from one network to another.'" Update: 04/15 21:24 GMT by Z : Thomashawk wrote in to provide links to less formal looks at the Allchin preview, one at his site, and one at Evan William's site.

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  1. Right by anonicon · · Score: 4, Funny

    "High on the list of features are security enhancements, improved desktop searching and organizing, and better methods for laptops to roam from one network to another."

    And you'll see all this and more when it's released in 2007.

    Honest. :-)

  2. Heh by Skiron · · Score: 3, Funny

    'High on the list of features are security enhancements.

    'Enhancements'? How can you 'enhance' no security to start with? 0 +0 = 0.

    1. Re:Heh by selderrr · · Score: 3, Funny

      ladies and gentlemen, worship this new math genius !


      How about 0+x = x ????

    2. Re:Heh by k4_pacific · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, I find Microsoft security comes in handy whenever I forget the punchline to a joke.

      Knock knock.
      Who's there?
      Uhhh... Microsoft Security!

      See? It's automatically funny, no matter what the context.

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    3. Re:Heh by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 2, Funny

      'Enhancements'? How can you 'enhance' no security to start with? 0 +0 = 0.

      Maybe they could get away with saying things like "Now with ten times the security!"

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      "Now with 20% more synergy."

  3. Security... by Theaetetus · · Score: 2, Funny
    High on the list of features are security enhancements

    Wow! I sure need that, since my OSX installs are all so virus-prone!

  4. Re:Amazing! by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

    Security enchancements can only mean one thing:

    Preinstalled spyware, so you don't have to risk going out onto the internet to find your own.

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  5. In other news.. by PaxTech · · Score: 5, Funny
    Duke Nukem Forever will make Half Life 2 look like a piece of crap. Someday.

    It's the same story Microsoft has told for years.. "Yeah, those other guys might have some cool shit, but the stuff we're working on is WAY better. Don't buy their stuff, wait for our new thing to come out. It'll be available Real Soon Now."

    Apple will be releasing Mac OS X Ocelot by the time Longhorn hits the market.

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  6. fan boys on parade by ucsckevin · · Score: 2, Funny

    So as a fanboy with nothing to do on a friday afternoon with no class I must take issue with the whole easier to roam from network to network thing... As a student at a private California university (not ucsc as per my name), we have different wifi networks all over the place. I'm using a PBg4 with airport express and mac os 10.3.8. Whenever and wherever I open up my laptop, it automatically connects me to the best (or predetermined) network available, and it usually takes 5 seconds. The only time i've had to open up my Network connection system prefence is when i failed to realize that my airport express base was unplugged!

  7. Is that a sexual euphemism? by Colin+Smith · · Score: 2, Funny

    "designed to take advantage of all this muscle"

    Y'know, like "to fuck with", "to shag" etc?

    I never can tell with MS, after all they have redefined the meaning of so many words and terms; innovation, secure, reliable, scalable etc etc.

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    1. Re:Is that a sexual euphemism? by Flywheels+of+Fire · · Score: 1, Funny

      Micro soft gets a long horn. Wife still not happy.

  8. Re:Is it worth it? by Kingofearth · · Score: 3, Funny

    By the time Longhorn ships, according to Microsoft chairman Bill Gates, PCs will have 4GHz to 6GHz processors, more than 2GB of memory, at least a terabyte of storage, and graphics accelerators three times more powerful than those offered by ATI and Nvidia today. He says that Longhorn is designed to take advantage of all this muscle, and nowhere is that more evident than in the rich, three-dimensional interface known as Aero.

    We'll have much better computers than that by time Longhorn finally ships.
  9. Re:Amazing! by killjoe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Last year at WWDC Apple had huge posters that said things like "Mac OS X, introducing longhorn" and "Redmond start your photocopiers".

    I thought it was cute, now I know it was prophetic.

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  10. From the makers of by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Funny

    From the makers of "Free ,as in costs money" we have "advatage, as in Same thing later".
    I have to ask which dictionary they are using ..
    Seriously i know marketing people are usualy full of crap , but normaly they try to avoid silly statments that are near out and out lies

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  11. Re:Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    With open...

    never mind.

  12. Re:Wasn't there a public BETA? by Shag · · Score: 2, Funny
    I don't know, one just told me he ran his server on Longhorn, I was like, "why?"... never got a reply. :(
    It was a beta. Did you seriously expect Microsoft to have implemented complex functionality like a "reply" button in a beta? ;)
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  13. Icon Security by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Funny

    Made me laugh: "...document icons are no longer a hint of the type of file, but rather a small picture of the file itself." Now there's a security enhancement.

    I think that files with viruses in them show a little icon of you reintsalling the OS, as a portent of the future you might have by opening it. So I guess that's security related. By default it ships with an icon of Balmer doing the installation unless you have a USB camera hooked up, then it automatically detects an install and takes a snap while you're in hour two for best effect!

    Who says Microsoft cant innovate.

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  14. Re:Amazing! by halleluja · · Score: 2, Funny
    and better methods for laptops to roam from one network to another.

    ...that I can already seamlessly do with Mac OS X's automatic detection of saved wireless network settings, rolling prioritized detection of available network interfaces, and quick switching of locations?

    Pff, using Windows(*) I can automatically login wirelessly without saving settings.

    (*) I do not use Windows but many entry points do and accept my request without authorization :-)

  15. Re:Is it worth it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Duh, do you want a graphics adapter just sitting there, or do you want some extra eyecandy for free?

    Some of us are heterosexual and do not like all that fruity eyecandy that you precious mac zealots seem to enjoy. So yes, unless I am playing a video game, I do want that graphics adapter just sitting there.

  16. Shades of Blues Brothers by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Funny

    Allchin said that Longhorn also goes further than Tiger when it comes to what one can do with search results, saying it offers new ways to organize and view the information.

    "We got both kinds of search views. We sort by date OR time!"

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  17. Re:Is it worth it? by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sounds to me like Longhorn will be a big contributor to the need to upgrade the electrical grid.

  18. Re:Amazing! by Jason+Earl · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why do you think it has taken Microsoft so long to come out with Longhorn. Microsoft had to wait for Apple and the Free Software community to come up with enough ideas worth stealing to make Longhorn worth its customers time.

  19. Re:Is it worth it? by myov · · Score: 3, Funny

    Apple vs MS:

    Apple - Apple is a hardware company so they want to sell boxes, not software, yet each release of OS X is faster than the previous one. Tiger is expected to continue this trend.

    Microsoft is a software company so they want to sell software, not boxes, yet each release of Windows is far slower than the last one.

    There's a reason why I can still use a 6 year old mac with the current OS.

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    I use Macs to up my productivity, so up yours Microsoft!
  20. Wait... by the+pickle · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lemme get this straight.

    Microsoft: "We don't have Longhorn ready yet, but Tiger, that OS from that other company, is shipping in 14 days if you want a 99% approximation of our OS that will ship in two years."

    Apple: "Mac OS X 10.4 'Tiger': Even Microsoft Says It's Good."

    Isn't Rule Number One of advertising never to mention the "leading brand" by name? Sheesh, you'd think M$ would have learned by now.

    p

  21. Share music files by Pascal+Sartoretti · · Score: 3, Funny

    From TFA:

    For example, a PC with Longhorn might show all the music files together, whether they are on the local PC or another machine on the network.

    I'm surprised, this already works on my WinXP machine. The application is named iTunes.

    Oh wait...

  22. Re:Good for Longhorn by SpooForBrains · · Score: 3, Funny

    I enjoy the concept of steaming video

    Don't we all, mate, don't we all ...

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  23. Re:What did they eat...? by Thomas+Hawk · · Score: 2, Funny

    No Kool-Aid but a nice medium bodied chardonnay before dinner accompanied by a nice fruity pinot with the chicken.

  24. Re:Wow...competition by Moofie · · Score: 3, Funny

    "So what does Longhorn's search do that Spotlight doesn't?"

    Ship more than a year from now. : )

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  25. Re:They're not 128x128 by sharkey · · Score: 2, Funny
    You can work a slider to bump them up to a fairly large size.

    Sounds nasty. Does it come with a box of Kleenex?

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  26. Whats in a Name? by Noraa · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apple's OSX releases are named after sleek, powerfull, and exotic jungle cats. Microsoft's new OS is name after, well....a cow. Hmmm. I think that says a lot.

  27. Re:I want animated program icons by Reaperducer · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was yelling "this is a load of SHIT!" when I threw the magazine.

    Dude, you should invest in some anger management classes. Or maybe spend a relaxing weekend debugging your registry and flushing your system of spyware.

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    -- I'm old enough to have lived through six different meanings of the word "hacker."
  28. Re:Good for Longhorn by mollymoo · · Score: 2, Funny
    Beware, 'cause this may turn out to be a big flop like Active Desktop!

    Hey! Active Desktop was great. Before that came along I actually had to start an application to crash my PC.

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  29. Nobody expects . . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Nobody expects...The Microsoft Marketers!

    our chief weapon is ignorance . . . ignorance and FUDs, FUDs and ignorance.... Our two, two chief weapons are ignorance and FUDs ... and backwards incompatibility. Our *three* chief weapons are ignorance, FUDs and backwards incomparability and an almost fanatical devotion to the Market....

  30. Re:Amazing! by jonadab · · Score: 2, Funny

    > And God save us from animated icons.

    Animated icons? How about animated filenames? Why should filenames be static? It's bad enough filenames can only have certain characters, that they cannot, for instance, contain paragraph breaks. What if I want a three-paragraph-long filename? And why should they be text-only? What is this, 1980? In the modern era, our filenames should be fully liberated to include markup, images, animation, scripts, ...

    (No, I'm not serious. I don't even like filenames with spaces in them.)

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    Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
  31. Re:Amazing! by drsmithy · · Score: 3, Funny
    Microsoft's 'security enhancements' primarily means securing the computer against the owner. It means Trusted Computing and DRM support and forcing down software patches and in general preventing the owner from 'tampering' with anything. Sure there are some actual security fixes rolled in to benefit of the owner, but the new talk of security is primarily anti-owner.

    Makes sense, given the biggest security hole in the entire system is the person using it.