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Firefox 1.0.3 and Mozilla Suite 1.7 Released
ESqVIP writes "Not long after Firefox 1.0.2 is out, there's a new public release. Just like the other 1.0.x releases, this is mostly a security fix. The release should hold for a few more days and we could also get bug 171349 (wrong icon displayed on Win9x) fixed. Mozilla Suite, on the other hand, has quite significant changes, some of them "imported" from Firefox. As announced before, this might be the Suite's last major release from the Mozilla Foundation."
Could you be more specific in your summaries please? I am already running 1.7.6. Just saying 1.7 implies (to me) 1.7.0, which would not really be news...
Viral software licensing is not freedom, it is in fact GNU/Socialism.
Just a correction to the original story, Firefox 1.0.3 and Mozilla Suite 1.7.*7* was released today, not 1.7.
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." - Oscar Wilde
The great thing about open source is that security flaws are found and rapidly fixed.
We all know people who argue that the large number of Firefox security fixes is bad -- but in fact, it is the mark of healthy and vibrant software.
This should fix the Add/Remove Programs bug where installing a new version over the old version leaves the both entries in the Add/Remove list.
Other than that, mostly just security issues.
Now if the update system would just not require a reinstall.
Most of the people I've converted aren't great at installing software, no matter how simple it may be.
I sure hope so.
Woot!
In Windows Add/Remove Programs, I now only see one version of Firefox-- 'Firefox 1.0.3'.
This will please many people.
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I have noticed that firefox isnt the fastest starting up on a windows computer, same on my linux machine, but I installed Mozilla couple of weeks ago and it started up almost as fast as IE. Then in this release it says "Size and performance have improved dramatically with this release. When compared to Mozilla 1.6, Mozilla 1.7 is 7% faster at startup, is 8% faster to open a window, has 9% faster page loading, and is 5% smaller in binary size." I am about to install and try it. But why can FireFox not take this and use it to make it's start up times faster??!?
oh? I wasn't aware Win9x was worth supporting anymore... you *must* be trolling. I'd much rather have a security fix now than to wait for some ridiculous cosmetic bug on a 3rd-tier platform.
It's Mozilla 1.7.7, there's nothing new we didn't already knew about. The update has the same security fixes (scroll down) as the new Firefox release, that's all...
/greger
"since Firefox does not have any code related to hibernation or PDF rendering, it is obvious that external applications or OS subsystems are responsible for the problems you're experiencing."
If IE works and FireFox doesn't, then it's obvious that something could (and should) be done on FireFox's end to fix it.
Lord knows, MS ain't gonna do it.
"Derp de derp."
since Firefox does not have any code related to hibernation or PDF rendering, it is obvious that external applications or OS subsystems are responsible for the problems you're experiencing.
Actually, it is entirely possible that, while code may not specifically be written FOR hibernationg purposes, it could affect it. That argument is equivalent to claiming there have never been arbitrary incompatability issues in information systems of any kind.
As for the PDF problem, I'm guessing it has something to do with how the acrobat plugin and FF interact, as the issue doesnt exist with IE. The bottom line is these issues exist with FF for me and not IE, on multiple computers.
"So what your telling me is that open source software has security flaws? I thought these things only happened to closed software products!!!! OMG"
NO no no! When OSS software has security flaws, it's great news because it shows how great OSS is! But when it's evil bad nazi closed source software, it's just further proof that it should be replaced by free (well, we're using the glamorous definition of the word free. 'Liberated code' sounds a lot better than $0.00...) alternatives!
(Disclaimer: I'm picking on sensationalism here, not OSS.)
"Derp de derp."
You could have fooled me.
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For heaven sake,Dont make users download the whole package everytime!Thats a real Inconvenience for all, and its a burden for dial up users to download a 5 MB file that takes anywhere b/w 30 min and a hour .
Why does yahoo do this
They need IBM to hire some FF developers...to create a OS/2 version. Then you can view your PDFs with ease!
Linux has had hibernation for a long time.
It is included in the main kernel, and I use it every day. Works flawlessly.
I keep hearing this, and it still doesn't make sense.
Why wouldn't Google just provide kick-ass extensions for Firefox and then promote it heavily? It doesn't make sense for them to fork Firefox and make their own browser when they could just pick up on the momentum Firefox has and offer their Google-specific content via extensions.
If there was a "Get Firefox, dumbass" link on google.com, Firefox downloads would hit 100 million in days.
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the strongest word is still the word "free"
Please fix memory leaks. Firefox seems to allocate more and more memory over time, even when not in use. It will start off with around a 10MB footprint, and will eventually grow to almost 50MB, even with the memory cache disabled. This behavior shows up in Windows, Linux, Solaris, and NetBSD.
No, I have not submitted a bug report, though I probably will. I've always figured that this was some minor leak that would be fixed "just around the corner," but its looking to be more and more unlikely.
Thanks.
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No, OSS has security flaws. The difference is that they are fixed.
Wow, I just loaded Mozilla 1.7.7 and it popped up infront of my shells while I was working. Umm, who decided this was a good feature? Firefox loads in the background.
:) I use Firefox and Thunderbird, being a long time Netscape (4.x) email client user. Things just keep getting better, (mostly).
Really, I hate popup dialogs or any other program that things it has to be your center of attention while you are working, and take focus. Mozilla hasnt did this in the past, and firefox doesnt, wtf happened?
Shame.
BTW, wonder if I get marked flaimbait, troll for a noticing this on the new release and commenting on it. Because you cant say anything negative these days without someone thinking you are being rude. Negative comments are just that, something that can be fixed. I have serveral mozilla bugs that are still not fixed, mostly because its due to older hardware. The downloading of files, where it can cripple a sub-1ghz laptop and 4200-5400 drive, freezing the whole laptop (On windows).
1.1 PR should be already out by now? What gives?
It says preview release for developers. There's still plenty of April left for this if it doesn't already exist. The normal preview release isn't scheduled until May. The end of May is a month and a half away. Also, you may have missed the part at the top of the table: "This is, as always, subject to change.".
I've been using Moz since 0.5x on Linux. I've gotten very used to it.
I started using Firefox once 1.0 was released. I used it heavily, and for a while, it was my preferred browser. (Mainly because the bright orange icon was easier to find than the bluecurve icon on my FC3 laptop)
But, finally, I had to go back. Moz is just simply better. Having separate address and search bars is a stupid waste of space. The find being down at the bottom of the screen was... funky.
But the one that did it? Refresh on view source!
I develop web apps, and the ability to see raw output in HTML, do a tweak on the file on the server, and then hit reload while viewing source, and see the source update, was the straw that broke the Camel's back. In FF, I have to close the "view source" window, hit refresh, then View Source again.
Ugh.
I haven't uninstalled FF, but the icon is no longer on my desktop, and I really don't use it anymore.
Funny, how the STUPIDEST features can make the biggest differences, no?
I have no problem with your religion until you decide it's reason to deprive others of the truth.
I wish someone would port the ability to open bookmarks in tabs to mozilla, like it is done in firefox, that and the firefox search bar is the only thing that keeps me on firefox.
Yes i am aware of sevral plugins that will do this, but they are all crap and/or does so much id have to spend a lifetime going trough options just to get it back to a good state (im looking at you multizilla and Tabbrowser Extensions).
Mozilla starts up in around 1 second on my computer (2.7 p4 running debian) and firefox starts up in around that time or slower.
mozilla is more stable and i can keep it open for weeks at a time while firefox starts sucking up memory like a whore in a bank managers convention in only a day or two.
I still use mozilla for mail, why? because it starts as fast as thunderbird or faster and feels smoother so why bother?
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I expect a lot better from Slashdotters than this "naive user" style bug report. Which operating system? Which patch level, which version of Adobe Reader? Adobe Reader 7.01 and Firefox 1.0.3 on a fully patched Windows XP work flawlessly together for me.
Try "When OSS software has security flaws" .. they get made public, and they get fixed, usually very quickly.
When closed software has security flaws, for a few months only the blackhats know about them, and write worms and trojans and so forth to abuse them. Somewhere in there some corporate flunky somewhere might find out about it, some red tape later some programmers might get assigned to work on it. Then the rest of the world finds out about it when the closed vendor releases a huge binary 'patch' that fixes that bug, but creates a dozen others.
1. Select View->Toolbars->Customize... from the main menu and drag the search field from the toolbar.
2. Create bookmarks with keywords for your searches. Several are predefined. If you want to f.e. have a quick way to search goggle images, go to images.google.com and right-click the entry field. Select "Add a Keyword" from the context menu, and enter "gi" into the Keyword field of the dialog.
Typing "gi whales" into the address bar now searches google for images of whales.
It's called a realease blocker. At least in the Mozilla world, there are plenty of them for every major release that, err, block it from being released.
This feature is being worked on and should ship with Firefox 1.1 .
There's a simple fact about software development, bugs are guaranteed, especially on a projects as complex as Mozilla, heightened by the multi-platform delivery platform that's expected of Mozilla & Gecko.
Given that, imho, it's much better to see many bug fix releases in a vibrant and alert software project rather than minor patches every year and major releases years apart.
'Being less buggy' isn't the measurement here, identifying and resolving the bugs is. I know it's a half full/half empty argument, but software testing should never be approached with the 'be less buggy' attitude, it should always be approached with the 'find the bugs' attitude.
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please please please dont let the URL disappear if the page times out.. its frustrating enough opening 10 pages to have 8 of them load. but for the 2 that didnt load to not even be reloadable due to a totally blank URL line is just unforgivable!!
/end of rant
please fix this bug ASAP!!
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Firefox is OK, but... Quite simply, it just feels a bit emasculated and kiddified. I just prefer the look and feel of the full suite and I'm sure they've moved around and lost some options in the fox.
If Firefox had a suite interface skin and a full (browser) set of suite config options available without having to root around in about:config, I'd give it a try. As it stands, it just doesn't feel right and I'd much rather they pushed ahead with suite 1.8.
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All software has bugs, with something like a browser that is a potential vector for viruses, malware and the like the important thing is how quickly they are fixed.
So far the Mozilla seems to be getting stuff fixed pretty quickly.
It's not the number of updates that either browser releases that determines how "buggy" it is. In fact, I might be happy seeing a release per day from each of them, because then you know that each is being developed continuously, and the browser you are using today is quite likely improved relative to the one you were using yesterday.
What is much more scary than having frequent product updates is having no updates at all. Just ignoring bugs because they're easier to ignore than fix. I'm not sure why the mindset of some folks is that if an upgrade is being released the program must be garbage. People do not complain about the security (or lack thereof) of Windows because of the number or frequency of updates being made available on the Microsoft website. It's the bugs that aren't being fixed that are the problem.
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It might just be me, but Firefox has a massive memory leak on my system - I don't close it down, but having it consume 150meg after a day of being run, is worrying.
I don't want to go back to IE but...
It was about a four hour compile, and when it was done, guess which site I go to to see if it's working: slashdot.
And guess what the fucking story is?
Fucking Firebox releases fucking 1.0.3.
Whatever. At least it wasn't a dupe.
Yes. But the fix caused a regression, and without knowing how many sites it would affect, both Firefox 1.0 and Mozilla 1.7 branches decided to leave it out.
Those regressions have now been fixed too, so it will be fixed in 1.1 and 1.8.
In the meantime, just do what I do - install SessionSaver, and close Firefox down and re-open when memory consumption gets too large.
Next time, just emerge mozilla-firefox-bin. (Except if you need fancy compile-time settings.)
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PDF's are a nuisance when viewed within a browser, mostly because it takes my computer (athlon 3K+, come ON!) a LONG time to open the viewer plugin, all the while freezing the entire FF app so I can't even look at any of the other tabs.
Luckily, someone made this, a freeware app that speeds up the acrobat startup because it strips a lot of libraries from it (second down on the page). What remains is a fully functional and very quick PDF viewer. Highly recommended.
Automatic updates tend to be staggered these days. I've no idea why but they seem to need a bit of extra time to work out problems when auto-updating. It'll probably be along in a couple of days.
I think the point is moot for most people here though. You can just download the installer and install over the top of existing versions - the installer's finally been fixed to remove duplicate entries in Add/Remove Programs under Windows.
Except for security updates, I think that the Slashdot rendering bug and the plugin crash bug should be release blockers. And they have not been.
Can you point me to where in the NYT advertisement this was mentioned? Because front and center on the second page it said
"I was tired of my browser crashing every day so I tried Firefox."
By this philosophy a lot of us should be going back to IE. I call bullshit on "vibrant and alert" - that's just contentless filler. We've seen plenty of patches and no centralized way to manage the browsers in a non-home environment.
"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master."
Hi there, I'm missing updates to the Official Bit Torrents. They are still at 1.0.1 !!! Why does Mozilla not support in a timely manner a ligitimate use of a great P2P system, that could save them (and their mirrors) some money in the process and proof that P2P is not only about "stealing" copyrighted material. K
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Amazingly enough, security fix releases tend not to change page rendering!
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I'm running Firefox 1.03 with IEView working just fine. I don't know what you're talking about.
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