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Moore's Law Original Issue Found

Daemon writes "BBC News reports that a copy of the original issue of Electronics magazine in which Moore's Law was first published has been found under the floorboards of a Surrey engineer's home. David Clark had kept copies of the magazine for years, despite pleas from his wife to throw them away." Intel, it seems, has its bounty fulfilled.

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  1. Wow... by Loco3KGT · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's going to be one hell of a return on investment for him.

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    1. Re:Wow... by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 5, Funny

      Who the hell keeps their old trade mags under the floor boards? Isn't that where the porn goes?

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    2. Re:Wow... by Babbster · · Score: 5, Funny

      Clearly, you underestimate the eroticism of a good circuit diagram.

    3. Re:Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Fry: "Whoah, whoah, wait, Bender. As long as we're here, why don't we take in some exotic dancing?"
      Leela: "Hey, great idea!"
      Bender: *gasp* "But those girls don't wear cases! You can see their bare circuits!"

    4. Re:Wow... by orkysoft · · Score: 2, Funny
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    5. Re:Wow... by biglig2 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Obligatory Spaced quote (from memory so don;t moan I got the words wrong):

      Daisy: "I'm going down the shops, do you want anything?"
      Tim: "i dunno, some porn?"
      Daisy: "For the last time, I'm not going to buy you porn, Tim. Why don't you just get it from railway sidings like everyone else?"
      Tim: "No, I'm an adult now, I have to leave it there."

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  2. See.. by ShaniaTwain · · Score: 4, Funny

    THATS why I never throw anything away!

    One day its going to pay off big!

    1. Re:See.. by macaulay805 · · Score: 4, Funny

      THATS why I never throw anything away!

      +5 Packrat

    2. Re:See.. by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny
      THATS why I never throw anything away!

      One day its going to pay off big!

      Got Fire Insurance?

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  3. True geek! by garcia · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Until last Wednesday, when his RSS news reader popped up with headlines from various websites with the news of the reward.

    He uses an RSS feeder for his news yet he stores 30 year old magazines in garbage bags under his floor boards.

    Nice :)

    On a slightly related topic... He said he's using the $10k to pay for his daughters weddings. I want to know where they are getting married and how I can afford a wedding for 5k or less :)

    1. Re:True geek! by grommit · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, there's two options:

      One, he's using the $10k to pay for *some* of the wedding expenses.

      Two, his daughters aren't having weddings that consist of needless expense.

      I like the latter option personally. Total cost for my wedding was under $1k.

    2. Re:True geek! by nacturation · · Score: 5, Funny

      On a slightly related topic... He said he's using the $10k to pay for his daughters weddings. I want to know where they are getting married and how I can afford a wedding for 5k or less :)

      one flight for two from UK to Las Vegas: $1600
      two disposable cameras with processing: $30
      two bottles of champagne: $200
      shotgun wedding from Elvis with the works: $350

      pocketing the leftover money to spend on geek toys: priceless

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    3. Re:True geek! by maotx · · Score: 5, Informative

      how I can afford a wedding for 5k or less

      A marriage license cost is minimal. Cost to have someone wed you is minimal. Local church would more than likely be happy to have you wed there. All of this for under $5k. I've done it. However from experience I can say that the real expense is the bride and then their is not much one can do about that...

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    4. Re:True geek! by karnal · · Score: 4, Informative

      My wedding (04/30/05):

      2000$ - Gazebo (sp?) and reception hall, including catering for 65 guests.
      250$ - Cake
      350$ - DJ
      850$ - Pictures
      500$ - Wedding Bands
      150$ - Ordained Minister
      650$ - Flowers

      We still have to get wine for the reception, as well as dole out money for the rehearsal dinner. But other than that, it's under 5k - and you can even cut things that we didn't, like use silk flowers for 250$ instead of $650... etc....

      There are other little expenses I didn't include. Like the invitations - we made them ourselves, probably to the tune of 100$ or so in paper/ink/stamps/envelopes etc...

      So yea, maybe I'll come in at 6k once it's all said and done. But you can do it for under 5. All you really need to do to get it under 5 is to have a smaller "party"....

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    5. Re:True geek! by kfg · · Score: 3, Funny

      Cost to have someone wed you is minimal.

      Approximating $0 if you have it done where you got the license.

      . . .the real expense is the bride and then their is not much one can do about that...

      Just say, "No."

      KFG

    6. Re:True geek! by RealAlaskan · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I want to know ... how I can afford a wedding for 5k or less :)

      Here's a serious answer to your semi-serious question: spend $50 on a justice of the peace.

      For us, the cost of the marriage license included having a judge perform the marriage (I think: it was 14 years ago, now, and some of those trivial details are starting to fade.). We went out to a nice restaurant with my parents and friends, afterwards. Total cost was under $200.

      If you do it right, this will be your first and last marriage, so you want to do it right. Just remember that spending money, having a big party, having fancy clothes, and all that expensive jazz, has nothing to do with ``doing it right.''

      Your wedding celebration may be the last wedding you'll ever have, but it's just the first of many celebrations you and your wife will have together.

    7. Re:True geek! by garcia · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's a serious answer to your semi-serious question: spend $50 on a justice of the peace.

      Just so you know... They are $250 now.

    8. Re:True geek! by oyenstikker · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm planning one now. Here's what I'm looking at:

      Church + pastor + organist: $200
      Food for 100: $1000
      Cake: made by my mother: free
      Shoes for myself and my groomsmen: $400
      Material for dress (to be made by her): $100
      photography: $1400
      rehearsal dinner food (to be made by friends): $50
      paying a women's group at the church to help out: $100
      wine: none, church won't allow it.
      some hokey gifts for people: $200
      wedding bands: $200
      total: $3650
      that leaves $1349.99 for a band to stay under 5k.

      oh yeah: getting a '75 beetle up and running for the getaway car: $300 and counting.

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    9. Re:True geek! by Shky · · Score: 2, Funny

      Buy one domestically?

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    10. Re:True geek! by mrdogi · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, $7820

    11. Re:True geek! by Dolda2000 · · Score: 4, Funny
      A marriage license cost is minimal.
      Yeah, but that is for the GNU Free Wedding License (which you can, of course, also get completely free if you find the right place).

      95% of the industry today tends to use MicroSoft Wedding 2005, however, and last I checked, the Home version was around $5K. As recently seen on Slashdot, they recently pulled their Homo version, though -- I dunno which one you might be needing.

      While many argue that the GFWL is more flexible and robust than MS Wedding (such as compatibility with gdivorce and gabortion and the equivalent open standards), many girls actually tend to like the lock-in of MS Wedding. That is often the largest setback many men see, but they are often happy to get a license at all -- especially those on Slashdot.

    12. Re:True geek! by kabz · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sadly, the GNU Wedding license will only let you marry Richard Stallman.

      This is a showstopper of a drawback for most people.

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  4. hmm by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now we have an excuse to keep porn when they invent robot girlfriends for us!

    "But darling, someone could want it in 10 years time amd get us alot of money"
    "...not all stuck together like that they won't!"

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  5. Proving his wife was wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    was probably worth more than the money, by a long shot.

    1. Re:Proving his wife was wrong... by ari_j · · Score: 5, Funny

      Folks, we found the only married male Slashdotter. You can tell, because he posted that anonymously.

  6. If i were him by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would auction them off at Christies with a starting Bid of 10K , let Intel fight for them as im fairly sure they could be worth a fair bit more than intel is offering as a colection and if not then intel gets them for 10 grand.
    Cough or he could do the moral and ethical thing of giving them to the local library for nothing

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    1. Re:If i were him by AviLazar · · Score: 2

      Or, just don't get greedy, take the money and run. Just cause Intel is ready to give 10k does not mean the rest of the world is.

      What is with the moral/ethical thing of giving it to the local library? Is it not moral to sell the book to a collector? Yes the library really needs a collectors magazine that will get used and abused (or stolen). They could, for informational purposes, use a reprinted version.

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    2. Re:If i were him by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just to end all all the "OMG YOUR WRONG" posts that have been occuring , I was meaning that with not the upmost seriousness (IE a joke).
      The moral and ethical thing to do as i mentioned would be to give the collection to a library(not local , national preferably) so the colection could be enjoyed by all , for the life of me i have no idea what intel wants to do with it, but i assume its not to put it up for display in the national librarys.

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    3. Re:If i were him by Blue-Footed+Boobie · · Score: 2, Funny
      IE a joke

      I agree. IE is a joke.

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    4. Re:If i were him by itchy92 · · Score: 5, Funny

      for the life of me i have no idea what intel wants to do with it

      They're going to collect all copies in existence and burn them, so that when Moore's Law is proved wrong, they'll claim it was just a stupid rumor, like Bill's "640K" quote.

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    5. Re:If i were him by Kazoo+the+Clown · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, they're actually not all that rare. The only reason you haven't seen any on eBay so far, is similarly dated issues haven't garnered much interest, and nobody was aware of any special interest in that issue. Someone probably paid $1 apiece or less for a batch of dozens of similar issues including that one within the last year, neither the buyer or seller realizing that issue was in any way special. Now that this story has surfaced, I'll wager you'll see bunches of them crop up on eBay over the next several months. Be patient, and you'll probably be able to get one for less than $50 once the feeding frenzy wanes-- IMHO the demand relative to the supply in this is significantly smaller than there is in Playboy #1 which went for about $2700 on eBay in the last week.

      Sure, the vast majority of old trade magazines got tossed, but there are more than a few packrats who've saved them-- probably far more than have an interest in acquiring this particular issue. DISCLAIMER: These opinions are based on decades of back-issue magazine collecting and trading, YMMV.

  7. if only... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    playboy did something similiar, I'd be all set.

    1. Re:if only... by Gzip+Christ · · Score: 4, Funny
      if only playboy did something similiar, I'd be all set.
      Ah yes, the famous "Hef's Law" prediction: your penis will double in size for every 18 issues you buy. It sounds good in theory until your realize that logistical limitations will eventually force you to grow a dual-core penis.
  8. Women..... by WilyCoder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not too different from the pleas of my friends mom. Except he had comic books, such as Spiderman #1. His mom tossed them long ago as they were a "fire hazard". Pfffft. Women.

    1. Re:Women..... by zxnos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      except, spiderman #1 wouldnt be worth a dime (well it would be worth less than it is-being #1 it has to be good for something) if a bunch of moms hadnt thrown them out. same goes for any magazine.

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  9. Plea to UIUC student by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Can you please return your copy of the magzine to the library?

    The reward has been claimed and there is nothing for you to profit off of now.

    1. Re:Plea to UIUC student by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'll make the drop behind the commons at 11pm and you'd better be alone.. No police, or the magazine gets it..!

    2. Re:Plea to UIUC student by justforaday · · Score: 4, Interesting

      As someone pointed out in the other thread, that copy is most likely already on ebay. It's a bit suspicious that this copy is located in Chicago, disassembled, has what looks to be whiteout where a library stamp would be, and has the disclaimer "This article was not a library copy."

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  10. Old news by updatelee · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This was reported on CBC Radio last week.

  11. someone please show this to my wife! by TheScottishGuy · · Score: 3, Funny

    maybe she'll be a bit more ok with my packrat qualities.

  12. Heh. by James+A.+Y.+Joyce · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Imagine how many fortunes have been burned or tossed out on landfill because of whiny mothers tossing out old comics and magazines.

    1. Re:Heh. by menace3society · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, the fortunes are created because of this. If every kid who ever bought Action Comics #1 or any of those old comics still had his copy, they'd all be hardly more than a novelty collector's item (like an issue of TIME from the same period). The same goes for baseball cards, etc. The very fact that these things are now seen as "valuable investments" and saved means that, most likely, they never will be.

  13. How can it be 'found' by alphakappa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    when there are umpteen copies in libraries all over the world? It is not as if only ONE copy survived!

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    1. Re:How can it be 'found' by updatelee · · Score: 2, Interesting

      CBC Radio had a short clip on how the Toronto Library had a copy, once it learned of the bounty on it they moved the copy to their "special collections" section where you can read the magazine but not check it out. Aparently they were contacted by Intel about selling it and the Toronto Library refused.

  14. There are several of these on eBay-- by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't get it.

    There are several of these on eBay.

    Is there something extra special about this one issue found under the floorboards?

    1. Re:There are several of these on eBay-- by bobbis.u · · Score: 3, Informative
      Neither of the ones on eBay are in "mint" condition, which was one of the requirements laid down by Intel.

      Those high bidders are going to be pissed when they realise they have shelled out $450+ when the prize has already been claimed. Do they really think Intel will lose it again?

  15. Winner announces by Timesprout · · Score: 2, Funny

    that now he has a few quid hes throwing the wife away.

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  16. Packrats rejoice! by OgGreeb · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think I'll keep a copy of this posting. You never know when it might be useful.

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  17. That stack of magazines under the bed... by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny
    > "David Clark had kept copies of the magazine for years, despite pleas from his wife to throw them away."

    Me: That stash of magazines under my bed... It's not what it looks like!

    Dad: Well, I hope not. Because it looks like you're masturbating to a 35-year old copy of Electronics magazine!

    (Credit due to bash.org.)

    1. Re:That stack of magazines under the bed... by gardyloo · · Score: 2, Funny

      You know, I just can't see it.

      Ah-hah! Your mom was right!

  18. I'm forwarding this story... by bmalek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... to my fiancee! She has been driving me nuts to get rid of my comic book and playboy collection, but just think about how happy she would be with $10,000! (Notice I say she, I would never see a dime...)

  19. What a fool!!! by ryanvm · · Score: 3, Funny

    Fool! He should have held onto it. Moore's Law Law postulates that magazine issues referencing Moore's Law double in value every 18 months.

  20. Dear Intel by Letter · · Score: 4, Funny
    Dear Intel,

    I have Hardcore Pornstars issue 1 (Willamette on cover, Jan. 1970) in pristine condition and in its original shrinkwrap. I thought you might be interested.

    Wait -- you said "dual core processors," not "Hardcore Pornstars." Nevermind.

    Letter

  21. Best 10 grand Intel ever spent by MrAnnoyanceToYou · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Causing that kind of media frenzy about how they were right once fourty years ago is priceless. Great job on some PR firm's part.

  22. I wonder.... by kagelump · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...what i should do with those pokemon cards i kept.....

    what....? they used to be popular...!

  23. Publisher Out of Business by SuperficialRhyme · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Apparently the publisher has since gone out of business (That was the reason given before for the search). My suspicion was that Intel was trying to use "news" to get a bit of free advertising around the time of their dual-core release. Also this would help to differentiate Intel from AMD in people's minds.

    After all, people will think "Intel has that guy who predicts fast chips."

  24. How to get yourself in trouble by Aggrav8d · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Honey, why do you keep all that old junk?"

    "... I keep you, don't I?"

  25. Wife of Winner announces by StrayJay · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now that her husband wants a divorce, she's asking a lot more than $10k for alimony.

    "You know how much the Department of Sanitation charges just to remove all the garbage my soon-to-be -ex husband collected?"

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  26. No, no, no... by artemis67 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm sorry, but a true geek would have had each of his beloved Electronics magazines soaked in a deacidification solution, carefully and lovingly dried, and then hermetically sealed in Mylar bags (with acid-free cardboard inserts, which he would have changed out every 3-5 years) and then stored in a cool, dry, dark basement.

    A "true geek"? No, my friend, he certainly was not!

  27. Re:Every 24 months?? by antispam_ben · · Score: 2, Informative

    According to the article, it says: The "law" was adopted after Intel co-founder Gordon Moore wrote in the 1965 Electronics magazine article that the number of transistors on a chip would double every 24 months.

    Yes, that's what Moore said in TO[riginal]FA.

    Now, if I remember right, that figure is supposed to be every 18 months! But it isn't. After a little looking, I found out that he really did say every two years. Interesting, don't you think? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law

    If you read all TFA's relating to this (since Intel announced this just a week or two ago), you'll find that the figure was shortly changed to every 12 months, then shortly after that changed to the current value of 18 months. I forget if Moore or someone else did the revisions, but that was still in the '60's or so, and the 18 month figure has remained remarkably accurate.

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  28. Re:I wonder what he said to his wife afterwards? by antispam_ben · · Score: 3, Funny

    From TFA:

    Mr Clark now intends to use the money to help pay for his daughters' weddings. His wife also has some plans for the cash.

    Yeah, his wife can dream on...

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  29. Pack Rat's Law by objekt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Keep something long enough and it will eventually be worth $10,000 to someone.

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  30. Hardcopies of slashdot by Herbmaster · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is why I print out hard copies of slashdot every day. I'm waiting to cash in on my original edition of CmdrTaco calling the iPod lame.

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