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Lenovo Completes Acquisition Of IBM's PC Division

karvind writes "Chinese computer maker Lenovo has completed its $1.75 billion purchase of IBM's personal computer division, creating the world's third-largest PC maker. Under the deal, IBM takes an 18.9 percent stake in Lenovo. Lenovo paid $1.25 billion for the IBM PC unit and assumed debt, which brought the total cost to $1.75 billion. Slashdot timeline: Dec 3, 2004: IBM Puts PC Business Up for Sale, Dec 4, 2004: Chinese PC Maker Looks to Buy IBM's PC Business, and Mar 9, 2005: U.S. Approves IBM/Lenovo Sale"

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  1. A new hope for IBM by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I just hope the Thinkpad survives. It's always been my absolute favorite laptop series. They're beautifully made, elegant, and they use, for me, the right pointing device (yes, I know people who don't like the trackpoint, but the trackpad is, IMO, nothing like as usable. Trackpoints are always stationary relative to the mouse buttons, which means you don't need that hack installed to make it usable that you do with the 'pad, where you're never sure if you just accidentally selected something because your attempt to move the mouse was interpreted as a click, etc. I know a lot of this is "what you're used to", but I also think it's an objectively better system.)

    IBM leaving the PC business seems sad, and I hope the fact they still have a big stake in the PowerPC and Workstation markets means they'll re-enter, this time with something a little more interesting. That said, it's important not to overstate this: IBM has never been a commodity player, and the PC business is a commodity market. That's why they're getting out. The chances of a populist computer coming out of IBM soon isn't that likely. It's like Anakin Skywalker being thrown into the lava and left there by Obi Wan Kenobe in the climactic scene of the new Star Wars movie, explaining why he has to wear the protective suit in his guise as Darth Vader and why he's all hairless and damaged in Return of the Jedi. Just like in that movie, it may explain things in the future of IBM (albeit things we're not aware of yet, whereas we've all seen A New Hope) and is a dramatic change. Hopefully though IBM's not "going to the dark side"!

    But it is sad. In many ways, I feel that when it came to IBM and its influence over the last few years, she blinded me with science.

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    1. Re:A new hope for IBM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's like Anakin Skywalker being thrown into the lava and left there by Obi Wan Kenobe in the climactic scene of the new Star Wars movie...

      Worst. Analogy. Ever.

  2. Um... who does this effect, really? by TodPunk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Honestly, I don't think this matters much. Thinkpads are about the only IBM PCs I've ever seen used in the past 10 years. We had an old IBM PC back in High School that was donated because it simply didn't hold up. We ended up trashing it because it kept eating video cards like they were candy, and the computer lab didn't have many to spare for it. It did resist that sledgehammer well, but that doesn't have much to do with the computer itself.

    So in the end, this really doesn't effect anyone I know of unless you really want a Thinkpad...

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  3. What Future For Thinkpad's? by rAiNsT0rm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It figures the only laptop I will even consider since they hooked me on the little pointer nub is a Thinkpad. A lot of business users rely on TP's too, and now with this Lenovo aquisition what lays ahead for the beloved Thinkpad?

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  4. But will they run Linux? by belmolis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's a case in which the standard question "but does it run Linux?" is actually relevant. China getting into the PC business in a big way could have an impact on the availability of machines on which one doesn't have to pay the Microsoft tax. With China explicitly interested in independence from Microsoft, it seems likely that they won't play ball with Microsoft and will offer machines with no OS or with Linux pre-installed.

    1. Re:But will they run Linux? by belmolis · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sure, I wasn't suggesting that they would refuse to provide MS Windows, just that they wouldn't insist on it. If they don't want to deal with MS, or if it becomes problematic because they won't sell all their machines preloaded, they might ship machines with no OS or Linux, with MS Windows installation done by OEMs or retailers for those who want it.

  5. Maybe they will build something different? by big-giant-head · · Score: 4, Interesting

    With the powerpc, the cel processor maybe IBM ditched the old pc to begin something new? Maybe not. However I could see somekind of wirless set top box that records (DVR) has basic Web/Email/Office capabilities and has wirless KB and Mouse. Others have tried it, but maybe it's time has come?

    BTW whatever happened to CHRP and the promised PowerPC MB's we hobbyists could buy and build our own system from?

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  6. no more discounts? by jwjcmw · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One thing I noticed with the acquisition is that some of the discounts that were available previously are not there any more. Realtors were able to get a pretty good discount (20% or so) on Thinkpads, but when you go to the link from the Realtor partner site, there are no thinkpads with discounts listed anymore. I wonder if they are doing away with these discounts? What about the good discounts that IBM employees get for their family and friends...I'd really hate to have to pay retail for a thinkpad.

  7. You know the coolest thing about thinkpads by ducttapekz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    . . . No windows key. I didn't like it at first but then I realized, it is a neutral pc. It doesn't have an ms advertisement on the keyboard. I hope that doesn't change.

    1. Re:You know the coolest thing about thinkpads by dmayle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No windows key. I didn't like it at first but then I realized

      I bet you prefer Apple mice, too...

      Like it or not, the extra "Windows" key is something that has been missing on x86 PCs for ages, whether you run Linux or Windows. (I run both) Without it, it's much more difficult to go mouseless in a GUI environment. Not to mention all the fantastic keyboard shortcuts you miss out on in Windows without it. (W-D for desktop, W-E for computer explorer, W-R for a RUN dialog...)

      On Linux you can map it to your menuing system of choice, or a Meta-key, or just about whatever else. If they really wanted be "Neutral" they could have just put a different picture on the key. All they are right now are lacking...

  8. Why don't major vendors sell Linux PCs?? by moeinvt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I recently saw a pretty decent deal on a Dell PC and called to ask if they would sell it with Linux pre-installed. No. Well, how about with no OS? Sir, you can reformat the hard drive when you get it and. . . OK, forget it. I was then quite stunned when I called about an IBM PC and even THEY(one of the biggest corporate backers of Linux) wouldn't sell a PC with Linux pre-installed . . . or even a box without Windows. ??? How is Linux supposed to catch on and put a dent in the MS monopoly when the major vendors won't sell Linux boxes and force you to buy a Windows OEM license regardless?

  9. ThinkPad's have been made in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wish to preempt foolish comments that quality will now deteriorate into the crapper:

    ThinkPads have been manufactured in China for some time now while maintaining high quality.

    Please stop the unfounded China bashing: the country's industries have been quickly becoming very competent at high quality production as well as churning out $2 Wal Mart items.

    1. Re:ThinkPad's have been made in China by petermgreen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      sad as it is such phases seem to be almost a natural part of a countries development.

      Britan went through it (industrial revoloution anyone?). The USA went through it (railroad companies anyone?) As each country develops it seems to go through a phase where is competes purely on price and things like workers rights be damned.

      why do people work in such situations? because they consider it better than the alternatives! I cant see how not buying from such countries helps the workers there.

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  10. Re:taking bets by mmkkbb · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can probably spend about $15000

    You could trick out a PowerBook and a battery operated Xserve RAID for that much cash.

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  11. irony.... by gsfprez · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1984: apple puts out 1984 commercial decrying IBM as Orwellian PC maker stifling industry.

    2005: IBM NO LONGER MAKES IBM compatible personal computers... They now they make Apple Power Macintosh and iMac computers.

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