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iPod Dangerous When Wet

puggsincyberspace writes "What do you do when your mom washes your iPod? Fix it, of course. A teenager in Australia found out the hard way that messing with the insides of his iPod is dangerous and needed medical attention after it exploded."

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  1. iPod Killer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or Killer iPod?

    1. Re:iPod Killer? by alc6379 · · Score: 4, Funny

      When the iPod blew up, did he jump off the bed and do the iPod Shuffle?

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  2. iPod bombs... by The+Jabberwock · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...the primary choice of militant geeks everywhere.

    1. Re:iPod bombs... by baryon351 · · Score: 4, Funny
  3. I heard somewhere that by PurpleXanathar · · Score: 5, Funny

    getting wet for electronic devices is a dangerous thing.

    1. Re:I heard somewhere that by kthnx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      as is opening up any electrical device which was not designed to opened by end users... Hints such as no screws on the outside case spring to mind.

    2. Re:I heard somewhere that by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Not being able to open a device doesn't always constitute the device itself being dangerous though.

      More times I've seen devices that don't even have the power to lightly shock you, but are , imo, just made that way so once it breaks, you're fudged, and you have to buy a new one (long live the quick-consumer society we're living in).

      For example, my Logitech mouses, all are a hell to get opened : Once opened, it's even more trouble to get them closed up again.
      While a mouse isn't a million dollar investment, I find it very consumer-unfriendly that I am not able to, for example, replace my right-mouse-button myself after it fails to work properly.

    3. Re:I heard somewhere that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually in Australia companies get in trouble if their product DOESN'T explode when it malfunctions.

    4. Re:I heard somewhere that by RealityMogul · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, the scroll wheel turns in the opposite direction

    5. Re:I heard somewhere that by hostyle · · Score: 3, Funny

      but.. dude, it exploded in his pocket

      Not unless he was wearing his bed at the time.

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    6. Re:I heard somewhere that by schtum · · Score: 5, Funny

      Mod parent down "WRONG". The iPod was not in his pocket, it was in his hand. His other hand had a screwdriver in it. The iPod was only defending itself. Seriously, he probably shorted the battery or something.

      If you really want to take your iPod apart, there are instructions all over the place online. I've never done it (don't even own one), so I can't vouch for how safe it is, but I'm thinking they should all add a new "step one": Wait for iPod to dry.

    7. Re:I heard somewhere that by ashridah · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why weren't you expecting it to explode?
      The tool probably damaged the lithium ion battery pack.

      Those things turn into small flamethrowers when nicked with a knife or other pointy object.
      They're even more dangerous when they're shorted (which soapy water is apt to do to batteries, naturally), although I presume the kid let it dry before poking at it.

      It's one of the reasons why most lithium ion batteries come in a hard case (like mobile phone and laptop batteries).

      Of course, for the consumer device market, that're not designed to be openable, they often use soft cells (less weight).
      This is one of the reasons I much prefer my Iriver H140 that has a lithium polymer battery instead. Supposedly, lithium polymer's not supposed to go up in flames when the packaging is compromised.

      Andrew

    8. Re:I heard somewhere that by Mathieu+Lu · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I had a similar problem with my Apple ibook power supply when it stopped working one day. I passed by my local Apple repair shop who fixed it by breaking it open with a screw driver, changed a transistor (or something like that..), then glued it back.

      It cost me 5 Euros instead of ~ 90 Euros. (Power supplies are strangely more expensive in European countries rather than in North America).

      The tech told me he does this all the time and it's simple as hell.

      I know that, from all things, non-tech people should not open their power supplies (PS). And I don't mind having a yellow-glued suspiciously looking PS, but knowing how Apple PS have/had a tendancy to break for silly reasons (at least with G3 ibooks), it would have been nice of them to have a tech-friendly way to fix them.

    9. Re:I heard somewhere that by flabbergasted · · Score: 3, Funny
      getting wet for electronic devices is a dangerous thing.
      And never, ever, feed them after midnight.
    10. Re:I heard somewhere that by perdu · · Score: 3, Funny
      It never fails. For every subtle joke on Slashdot, there will be somebody to come along and over-explain it.
      You see, many of us are analytical types here, and that's what we like to do.
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  4. The kid pierced the Li Ion battery with a screwdri by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The kid pierced the Li Ion battery with a screwdriver. It wouldn't matter if this was an iPod, rio, nomad, dell dj, mobile phone or the interior of a LiIon laptop battery from any manufacturer.

    The kid tried to argue with the laws of physics, and as always - lost.

  5. What?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    You mean batteries made out of combustable metals can be dangerous? They should put warning lables on them. And this could mean the end for my forthcoming line of Rubidium dildos!

  6. Great by t_allardyce · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Good bye iPods in planes, trains, work-places and public buildings...

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    1. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, might as well wave farewell to cellphones for the same reason then.

    2. Re:Great by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Due to demand for higher power and longer life, batteries in all mobile devices are approaching power densities of explosives. It's a chemical compound that is designed to hold a lot of energy in its structure, and be able to release it at varying rates. This is only going to become more of a problem as battery technology improves. Fuel cells especially will be tricky to get aboard aircraft.

    3. Re:Great by turbosk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      insightful? INSIGHTFUL?

      The power density of a *jelly donut* is higher than TNT, FFS! Batteries can't even hold a CANDLE to a JELLY DONUT!

  7. In other news... by JohnnyBigodes · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... playing with fire will get you burned, suprisingly!

    1. Re:In other news... by krumms · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sounds like the news story a work mate read out today:

      "Experts say kids in less danger if they play it safe"

      Where do they find these experts in the oft-astounding field of common-fucking-sense?

  8. The Kid Isn't Alright by richardmilhousnixon · · Score: 4, Funny

    "We treated him on the scene for minor breathing difficulties but he was fine and then we scooted out and helped save the rest of Melbourne,"

    The kid was trying to fix his ipod on his BED after his MOM washed it . . . he is far from fine.

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  9. In other news.. by khrtt · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..if your cell phone falls into the toilet... duck and cover...

  10. Re:The kid pierced the Li Ion battery with a screw by t_allardyce · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, all that matters now is that when the press runs a story with the words 'iPod' and 'exploded' it won't matter how much you talk about LiIon batteries, people are going to believe that iPods are the problem and that they randomly explode.

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  11. Possibly beryllium oxide by fven · · Score: 3, Informative

    A fireman that rescued me (barely sensible) after an electronic device exploded, said that BeO was probably the culprit. I had been in the room when the device(s) exploded and was the first one to ring for help.

    About 15 minutes later (I hadn't been feeling too good), I collapsed and was taken to hospital.

    BeO is highly toxic by ingestion and inhalation (Material Safety Data Sheet: http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/BE/beryllium_oxide.h tml
    ).

    Apparently it is one of the more common toxic substances emitted in smoke/fumes. Particularly in domestic / non-chemical-factory settings.

  12. This boy has a great future... by dpbsmith · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...as a Toyota Prius mechanic.

  13. Re:The kid pierced the Li Ion battery with a screw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The kid tried to argue with the laws of physics, and as always - lost.
    You don't always lose. In Kansas, the second law of thermodynamics is illegal. Apparently people there live for ever.

  14. Two words by dos_dude · · Score: 4, Funny

    Natural selection.

  15. Re:The kid pierced the Li Ion battery with a screw by baryon351 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The NINE and TEN news (australian local television) both said that the battery was torn open and that they "flash flame" when exposed to the air.

  16. Hey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Guess what's going to put you on the no fly list when the Department of Homeland Security gets to work in a few hours.

    Somehow I don't think iPods will be making to an eBay auction either.

  17. Re:The kid pierced the Li Ion battery with a screw by svanstrom · · Score: 4, Funny

    Gotta love Darwinism in action...

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  18. Rumour has it... by OverflowingBitBucket · · Score: 5, Funny

    .. that the iPod is also a choking hazard if you attempt to swallow it.

  19. Re:All I have to say is by psavo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think this is where RFID could help a LOT. There's just no reason for electronics class device to be inside a washing machine.

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  20. Re:The kid pierced the Li Ion battery with a screw by captain_dope_pants · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ah, if only they did explode randomly.

    I for one would spend my free time sitting in the park looking out for gyrating youths and betting with my friends whether they were dancing or in severe pain from their exploding portable music players.
    Hours of fun.... But then I don't get out much ;-)

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  21. The instructions specifically said... by CdBee · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do not machine-wash happy fun Pod !

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  22. Re:Possibly beryllium oxide - Rubbish. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Utter nonsense. BeO is (was) only used in some high-power RF devices in the industrial market as it has good thermal conductivity properties. You will not find it in any modern consumer products.

  23. nice title by Dr.Opveter · · Score: 5, Funny

    FTA (page title)
    Teenager's iPod goes boom - Breaking - Technology - theage.com.au

    That's breaking technology alright.

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  24. iPod-icide by dark+grep · · Score: 3, Funny

    I will have to remember not to commit iPodicide by stabbing it to death with a screwdriver while I am filling the car with petrol (gas for you North Americans). Jeeze Bruce, but us Aussies can be dumber than a bag of hammers. From what was reported, the ambulance service spokesperson hammed it up a bit too.

  25. Damn kids and their modern technology.... by cianduffy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In my day, when you washed your (1st generation, flash-based) mp3 player, you just put it on top of your (17", radition levels that burn out brains) monitor with the memory card out for a few hours to dry

    Same with cellphones, flash keys, etc. But noooo, someone had to go and put rustable moving parts into mp3 players...

  26. Nice tabloid journalism there... by Harker · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Teenager's iPod goes boom

    You don't see what really happened until much further down the article (around 3/4 of the way through) emphasis mine:

    "It wasn't working, the young fella tried to undo it or fix it with a screwdriver and at that stage there was an explosion, or more of a pop.


    Gotta love the media. Anything for a sensational headline.

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  27. Maccas by mattjb0010 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did you also know that McDonalds coffee is hot?

  28. Lithium poly batteries the cause by inflex · · Score: 5, Informative

    The iPod uses lithium poly batteries, they're slim, they're powerful and they pack a punch when you rupture them.

    With model aircraft, we use them a lot for our electric motors however they carry with them a lot of cautions. If you should happen to rupture or over charge them it's time to STAND CLEAR.

    Typically a lipo will puff up for a bit then have a fairly impressive flame out (as the lithium starts burning). I'd personally be worried about the guy if he inhaled too much of the fumes, it's fairly toxic.

    Oh, he probably ruptured the battery with the screwdriver. Normally if we have a "dud" cell, we put the cells into a bucket of salt water and then puncture the cells (UNDER WATER), the cells will bubble quite a bit and eventually after a few hours settle down.

    1. Re:Lithium poly batteries the cause by dubdays · · Score: 4, Funny

      Next, we'll see the headline:

      "Man decapitated while puncturing batteries in bucket of salt water"

  29. Re:The kid pierced the Li Ion battery with a screw by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't know why, but I read this an another slashmeme-in-the-making:

    In Soviet Russia, X Ys YOU!
    In Korea, only old people X!
    In Kansas, X is illegal!

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  30. This kid wouldn't perchance live in... by Demerara · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..Darwin, would he?

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  31. Re:The kid pierced the Li Ion battery with a screw by Hinhule · · Score: 5, Informative

    He might've just shorted the battery, which could also cause it to explode.

    There are 3 common ways for LiIon batteries to explode.

    1. Short circut.
    2. Overcharging.
    3. Physical.

    As explosions is a way to ask for being sued, most manufacturers have short circut tests as part of manufacturing. Charge regulators are also put into the casing of the battery or in the appliance (Ipod, cellphone etc). Just to make sure no law suits come from 1. and 2.

    The only thing they can't protect themselves from is physical abuse on the battery itself. Like screwdriver through it.

  32. Another wet ipod by FirienFirien · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My ipod went into a river as I was jumping from boat to bank at one point. It was in for maybe 10 seconds, so presumably shorter than the washing machine and without the associated stresses; I popped the back off, poured the water out, detached the battery and tilted the HD away from the motherboard, put it above a radiator for a few days to be sure, then put it back together again and it worked absolutely fine, with no loss of battery life or memory errors.

    There may have been something happening with the washing powder in solution or water being forced into various places by the high Gs at high spin; however as I opened up my ipod it was completely inert. Something really strange must have happened to pierce his battery (solid Li skids around and pops a little when placed on top of water); however then you would expect it to have happened inside the washing machine. The implication there is that he pierced the battery with the screwdriver, which is no mean feat since it's around a 180 corner when you're trying to get in. Makes me wonder exactly what he was trying to do at the time.

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  33. McDonalds coffee myth *again* by Dogtanian · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sorry, but it always bugs me that this is brought up implicitly or explictly as an example of 'public stupidity' and 'bad lawsuits'.

    Read this and note particularly point 12:-

    McDonald's admitted that its coffee is "not fit for consumption" when sold because it causes severe scalds if spilled or drunk.

    McDonalds admitted its coffee was 40 to 50 degrees hotter than is fit for human consumption (Google cache; article is gone from original website).

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  34. Re:Logitech by alib001 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Running a thin, blunt knife e.g. a small butter knife or screwdriver around the joins should reveal where the plastic lugs are. Then insert similar shims at each locked point until the container pops open. It takes a bit of practice but if you're careful you soon learn the tolerance of the material - i.e. how hard to apply pressure before anything snaps. Also - check there aren't any screws hidden behind sticky labels etc. by running your finger over them and feeling for giveaway circular depressions. When you're putting it back together bend the lugs out a bit so they catch.

    You might want to consider investing in a mouse with screws - the couple of Logitech meeces I use are only secured with a couple of easily-accessible screws. Which is handy if I need to clean them or do simple maintenance such as pushing the optical sensors back in line.

  35. Re:In Kansas, slashdot memes are illegal? by hoggoth · · Score: 3, Funny

    > The Golden Age of the slashmeme is over; it's getting too self-concious now.
    >I was there at the birth of the 'In Korea' meme, and it came across as a contrived attempt to create a meme and out-Soviet 'Soviet Russia'.

    "The Golden Age of the Slash-??? is over!"

    I coined it first!

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  36. NEWS FLASH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    News Flash!

    Jabbing screwdrivers into soaking-wet Lithium-Ion batteries is a bad idea.

    More on this stunning news as it develops.