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Nintendo Revolution Details Emerge
Pyrohazard writes "Nintendo has posted some details on the Revolution to their official site, finally giving us some insight into what the console will be like. From the site: 'It will be about the thickness of three standard DVD cases and only slightly longer.' This makes it the smallest Nintendo console yet! It will also be able to stand up, similar to the PS2, and the Xbox 360. It will be backwards compatible, and it will also play '12cm optical disks in the same self-loading media drive'. It also states that it will have a very quick start-up time, and be very quiet. It finishes by stating 'Get ready for the Nintendo Revolution in 2006!'" C|Net has an article up arguing that Nintendo is making an error in missing the 2005 Holiday season.
It also states that it will have a very quick start-up time, and be very quiet.
Aiming to capture the market for game-playing wabbit hunters.
DVD players are a liability, because it's easier to play warezed games on a DVD-based console than one with a custom drive.
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I think it could be a smart move. Think of it. The XBox and the PS3 will be going all out to steal each others' thunder, and the consumer market for consoles will be split. If Nintendo can handle staying out of the spotlight for a little while, and then show up the next year with a console superior to the other two and good lineup of games, all the attention will be focused on them. As it is, you could argue it's too early for a second XBox and a third Playstation. Nintendo's timing could be perfect.
"(Update 05/13/05) I have had a couple of readers that commented on Microsoft stating that the Xbox 360 was "water cooled." While this might be technically true, it carries a very heavy marketing spin in order to glom onto an enthusiast technology. To be succinct, the Xbox 360 is not water cooled in the way we, meaning just about every computer hardware enthusiast on the planet, tend to think of water cooling. The Xbox 360 motherboard we were shown did have a CPU heatsink in place that utilized a heatpipe. Yes, a heatpipe does have liquid in it and some H2O as well, but is usually primarily ammonia. In a heatpipe, the liquid at the "hot" end vaporizes, and is moved to the "cold" end of the heatpipe by a pressure differential and convection. Once the heat is transferred to the fins in the cold end, the substance condenses and the process repeats. The CPU cooler we saw on the Xbox 360 processor looked very much like this CPU cooler seen at Plycon except the Xbox 360 cooler was taller than wider and only utilized one copper heatpipe tube."
Link -> http://www.hardocp.com/articleprint.html?article_i d=768
I don't think that the addition of a DVD player would add much. When the PS2 was released, not everyone had a DVD player. Now, almost everyone has a DVD player, and if they don't, they're extremely affordable.
I'd argue that Nintendo might be better served waiting until *after* the Christmas season. There's been several "OMG I must have!" Christmas toys that nobody can find, everybody's going onto Ebay and bidding hundreds of dollars for.
You see, not being able to get it makes people want it more. It's fairly standard marketing practice to actually artificially make your product more scarce, because it makes people want it more.
Many of those fad Christmas gifts were hard to find... because it was all planned that way by the people making them. Intentionally making shipments erratic, etc. There's no reason why they couldn't flood the market with the product... but then nobody would want it as badly. Of course once the Christmas season they give up on the charade and just ship them normally.
Remember when Gmail was "invite-only" and everyone that you know couldn't get an invite fast enough? Again, articially-induced scarcity.
Nintendo is losing big by missing Christmas, a time when demand is typically quintupled. They would miss it only if they had no other choice.
There's not going to be an MTV special since The Revolution won't be televised. (rimshot)
It's too soon for a new console. The games run fine on the old ones. If it's able to offer some mindblowing new content along with the intro, Nintendo is smart to wait for the 'compelling need' to drive it's sales through the roof.
There's also the aesthetic angle. Cultural preferences are rapidly moving toward Nintendos form factor and will be peaking in 18 months, not 6.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Games for adults means more than just OMG BOOBz and BLOOD. Nintendo is popular because they make good games. I don't give a damn if Zelda was cel shaded or not it's a good game, so were the metroid games, and f-zero and a whole boat load of other games for the console. I can't believe 4 years Later and people are still saying stupid shit like lame cube. Grow up, good games are available on all the consoles
I wonder if the real "innovation" we are going to see with the Revolution has to do with the business side, namely that this box will be better focused in its purpose than Xbox360 or PS3. Perhaps in addition to being small, it will be significantly cheaper than the other boxes. I think if you look at where alot of game systems go (with the exception of Slashdot users and gadget freaks), they are not hooked up to the main TV in a house but to some secondary TV in a kids playroom, den, etc. Some of the media hub features discussed for these boxes are really overkill and not worth paying for if you just want a really good game system. I'll let my DVR evolve into a media hub and let the game system do what it does best, play games.
> Consoles may or may not appeal to hardcore gamers, but Nintendo certainly doesn't.
Okay, now define "hardcore gamers" for us as well.
> The majority of their videogames are single player
Super Smash Bros., Mario Party, Mario Kart, Mario (insert sport here), Donkey Konga, F-Zero, etc. all disprove that.
> Flashy disney/fisher-price style games with playability but no real content.
Real content like.. what, Halo 2?
> they're going to spend it on a console where they can play games like Doom3, CounterStrike, Halo2, Neverwinter Nights and so forth.
A PC, then? Because only one of those came out on a console first.
> a console that basically just plays a bunch of mario spinoffs and tetris.
You seem to forget Resident Evil, Metroid, Rogue Squadron, and Zelda, among others
> people who buy a gamecube are usually buying them for a child and the adult doing it thinks "videogame" and "nintendo" are synonymous and don't know better.
So a million parents worldwide have bought RE4 for their kids?
> having more than just Killer7 as a non-children's game
Once again: Resident Evil, Eternal Darkness. Even the Metroid GC games aren't for children.
Back when the N64 was in development, Nintendo kept saying that the controller was something amazing and revolutionary, and kept it really hush-hush until they decided to unveil. They're pretty tight-lipped about stuff like this, so don't expect to see anything until Nintendo actually WANTS you to see it.
On the plus side though, the N64 controllers were revolutionary in a number of ways... it was the first major console to use analog sticks (Well, since the Atari 5200 I guess), it had slots on the back for memory cards and rumble packs (an idea later adopted by Sega and Microsoft), the odd three-staved design allowed it to be held in a number of different configurations (an idea which never really caught on), the C-buttons sort of led to the Gamecube's C-stick, and the system did four-player out of the box (although I suppose this is more a feature of the system rather than the controllers). I know a lot of people didn't like the N64 controllers, but they did have a good amount of influence after all.
-"One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -EH