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Hyper-Oxygenated Water Speeds Up Healing
Ninwa writes "Wired News is reporting on a new discovery by Occulus Innovative Sciences: Super-oxygenated water that significantly decreases healing time of wounds, burns, and diabetic ulcers. 'Oculus said the solution, called Microcyn, may prove effective in the fight against superbugs, crossover viruses like bird flu and Ebola, and bioterrorism threats such as anthrax.'"
People have been using H2O2 on wounds for YEARS!
The phrasing on the Oculusis website is a little suspicious, too.
It seems it's already for sale, even though it's still in testing. They're also extremely vague about how it works, and apparently it also cures cancer. Suspicious.LOAD "SIG",8,1
... making wounds in one's heart (Re: Blondes!) ;-)
Paul B.
The idea of using osmotic pressure to treat wounds is as old as time itself, with salt being rubbed into wounds, very literally, as a means of treating them. The use of osmotic pressure is also commonly used in dialysis machines.
I believe that some forms of cancer/tumor therapy involves creating a severe enough osmotic pressure that the cells involved rupture. However, I couldn't tell you exactly which therapies these were.
I don't know whether you'd be able to make a targetted therapy - that would depend on the targetted cell either having a higher concentration or a different ratio of salts, so that you could create an environment in which healthy cells were fine but hostile cells were unable to survive. There's nothing in the article to suggest that this would be the case.
It is certainly NOT the case with something like ebola, which is a virus. Viruses are not cellular, they are simple RNA strands with a protein coating. What would you create the pressure against? There's no salt water mix in there and no semi-permeable membrane to fracture.
Salt is effective against viruses only insofar as that nothing would survive in the general vicinity (therefore there's nothing the virus can use to spread from) and the blood would be soaked into the salt. Antivirals are, as a general rule, nothing quite so simple.
(Having said that, RNA is a single molecule and single molecules can act as a dipole with a unique absorbtion frequency. It may be possible to develop treatments which "shatter" viruses by transmitting at the virus' absorbtion frequency, but we're talking about a very complex molecule which may not act as a simple dipole. As far as simple treatments go, that's about as simple as you're going to get. Salt packs won't cut it.)
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Man, with all that anecdotal evidence I sure am convinced. Thank god we have news services like Wired to deliver these releases from companies, becaues that damned JAMA would never let this one out of the bag.
If this turns out to be a real thing, it'd be a good news for Emergency Medical Service personnel.
Sterlization is one of the key steps to prevent infection to worsen one's injury. H2O2 etc. is great, but these are somewhat too acidic sometimes and too cumbersome to carry around.
Imagine a case where you climb mountains in cold winters. You have cold foot injuries like trench foots. If one can carry around simple medical material to help sterlize, better yet, help it heal faster, it'd be very nice indeed.
I still have to see (1) how cheap the material is and (2) how portable the medium would be.
"Hyper-oxygenated water" -- what a great name for H2O2 which releases oxygen when poured on wounds. Wikipedia article
This is setting off my bullshit detector big time. There has been so much nonsense lately about "pentawater," and homeopathic solutions that contain no active agent but supposedly retain a "memory" of it, not to mention the bottled water that's supposed to be charged up with extra oxygen (Dissolved O2 in water will just lay in your stomach and do nothing). Until they can come up with some chemical details and studies, I'm not ready to buy this.
The super-cheezy presentation doesn't really help, either.
This is BS. "Innovative Science, Disruptive Technologies" Yeah, right. No studies. Anecdotal evidence, and they also hype a cancer treatment.
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It's also a floorwax and a dessert topping!!!!
Show me on the doll where his noodly appendage touched you.
It's probably Quackery...
I direct you here
Where it is amply explained that ionizing salt water can only create chlorinated water, or bleach, which, of course, ARE good antibacterials, but are also *gasp* oxidants. Why the SHOCK!
Remember the first Usenet spammers, Canter and Siegel? Once they gained national notoriety and launched an Internet advertising business, their first client was a company that marketed "a health product, super-oxygenated water".
In 1954 Dr. Serizawa was working on a similar project and created the oxygen destroyer. He used it on Godzilla at the bottom of Tokyo Bay and at the same time ended his life to make sure this terrible invention of his doesn't get into the hands of politicians. Making then the ultimate sacrifice rather than being the next Oppenheimer.
But it looks like Oxygen research has been going on after his death. If my guess is correct this product will be our only chance to stop Godzilla from striking Tokyo again.
Here is the DiHydrogen Monoxide FAQ ... but I could not find one for DiHydrogen Dioxide which (as previousely noted) might be what they are calling "Super-oxygenated water" ...
I read the Wired article and became hopeful. I wasn't as turned off by the market-ish site as other Slashdotters.
I followed up with an "oculus site:.gov" search and found that the FDA has classified Microcyn as a disinfectant.
And, the California Dept. of Pesticide Regulation lists the evaluation of Microcyn as follows,
Maybe some /. chemists can explain the good of those ingredients.
Marques Johansson
About a year ago, the ~5 year old daughter of a friend of mine drank about 5 ounces of household-strength H2O2 (3%). She started throwing up blood within 5 minutes, and had to be taken to the hospital. The reason is that it oxidized (like it does everything), and thus destroyed the efficacy of, her stomach lining (mucus), which was the only thing protecting her stomach from the hydrochloric acid in it.
Anyway, like I said, much more than gas, it will give one.
The difference between spam and poop is that you don't have to dig through septic tanks looking for real food. -- Me
In other words, never trust a product that uses more then 4 buzzwords in one sentence:
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Oculus said the solution, called Microcyn, may prove effective in the fight against HYPE-FEAR, crossover viruses like HYPE flu and HYPE-FEAR, and HYPE-FEAR threats such as HYPE-FEAR.
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There's a fairly extensive list of water-related pseudo science listed here, as well as a specific page on ionized water.
I ran across it today when researching the product. I have a coworker whose daughter suffers from ulcerative colitis and I'm always on the lookout for odd breakthroughs. I think the emphasis for this one is on "odd".
well of course this is going to work, its got ions!, or i mean its ionized!, i mean....
what im trying to say is that 'ion' its the buzzword here
"Blood bath speeds up healing."
Isn't it sad that accelerating the healing time for the kinds of wounds that plague us all isn't good enough? The company has to chime in with its utility in fighting all kinds of things that happen to almost nobody, but which are very, very scary - because we watch too much TV.
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is not H2O2, as i understand from the article, their solution is composed of some salty water which has lots of gaseous oxygen dissolved in it. This is not a chemical reaction, but a physical one. Just like dissolving CO2 in water to get coke.
It sure cured my ebola!
My blood no longer spurts from various bodily opengings at random intervals!
- Zav - Imagine a Beowulf cluster of insensitive clods...
... but they don't mention the terrible risks.
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