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E3 2005 Booth Babe Hall of Shame

DanAckerman writes "GameGal.com offers some of the out-of-control examples of Booth Babe excess seen every year (five years running) at E3 in their annual Hall of Shame gallery." From the article: "They're smiling on the outside, but three days of snapping Poloroids with sweaty game geeks leads these girls to swear off Guild Wars forever."

184 comments

  1. My wife was a booth babe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...for a couple hours. She's a marketing manager for a large game company and volunteered to hand out t-shirts or some crap for a shift.

    Sweaty, nasty geeks indeed. She said it was worse than you can imagine.

  2. From the article? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What article? It's a web page with five photos. Doesn't "article" insinuate some text and story?

    1. Re:From the article? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously. On top of that, the "pictures of people taking pictures" has been done already, and was this photo mini-essay really necessary?

      Why not just take pictures of the really awful looking in really awful shape (no shortage of those) and make sure those chicks don't have their services called upon next year?

      Worst E3 article Submission EVER.

  3. So what? by etymxris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I imagine very few attendees are under the illusion that these women are doing this for anything but money. Yes, there are better jobs, but with so many people having dreams of being an actor/actress, and relatively few positions to fill, this certainly isn't the worst gig available. Better than strip clubs and Valtrex commercials anyway.

    1. Re:So what? by TEMMiNK · · Score: 1

      fap

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  4. This is Silly by superpulpsicle · · Score: 1

    All they need to do is host an E3 show in a building directly next to a strip club.

    1. Re:This is Silly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it's already been done. When Gathering of Developers existed, they had a fairly swank setup outside, complete with pole dancers and drinks. It was the best of times.

    2. Re:This is Silly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When Gathering of Developers existed, they had a fairly swank setup outside, complete with pole dancers and drinks. It was the best of times.

      No, it was the blurst of times.

    3. Re:This is Silly by urbaer · · Score: 1

      All they need to do is host an E3 show in a building directly next to a strip club.
      Next to? Why not in? Mmmm.... Warioware twisted would be interesting if it was demoed by a stripper pole dancing.

    4. Re:This is Silly by badasscat · · Score: 2

      All they need to do is host an E3 show in a building directly next to a strip club.

      They already pretty much do. The LA Convention Center is not really in the "heart" of downtown, it's down near the basketball arena (what is it called these days, the Staples Center?) in an area of town that's sort of borderline - it's not bad but it's not great either, and it kind of feels like the middle of nowhere. I walked around outside the convention center a while both times I went to E3 and I did see some strip clubs.

      Most of the E3 "booth babes" are hired right out of these strip clubs. Most of them are regulars at E3 too, so it's not as if they don't (for the most part) know what they're getting into. You see the same ones every year.

      At Japanese game shows, the booth babes are usually college girls hired for the day from around the whole area. Some of them get to be regulars too, though, because it's good money. But they're not models or strippers like the E3 women are (which may be better or worse depending on your tastes and your personal chauvinism level).

    5. Re:This is Silly by zero_offset · · Score: 1

      You stupid monkey!

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  5. Booth babes by secolactico · · Score: 5, Funny

    Boothbabes faking a sleepover party? WTF! Now I'm embarrased of being a gamer...

    At least there was a pillow fight, right? Everybody knows no babe sleepover is complete without a pillow fight.

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    1. Re:Booth babes by syynnapse · · Score: 1

      ...pillowfight interrupted by guys with hoses and a make out session? seems to be the direction things are going here.

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  6. Out of control? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seems pretty damn tame to me. I've seen more "out of control" dress on Britney-wannabe teenagers down at the local mall. Don't tell me Ashcroft's new job is webmaster for gamegal.com!

  7. Re:Uh.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Eeh, the domain is gamegal, so I'm guessing it's girls making fun of girls. No interviews, though, so this is just crap... I'd like to see some anonymous interviews, I have little doubt some pathetic people enjoy being babes (female or male, I don't know the word for a 'male babe', stud?).

  8. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I imagine very few attendees are under the illusion that these women are doing this for anything but money. Yes, there are better jobs, but with so many people having dreams of being an actor/actress, and relatively few positions to fill, this certainly isn't the worst gig available. Better than strip clubs and Valtrex commercials anyway.

    Why? Why is this better than a job at a strip club? I'd be interested in hearing your reasoning on this. I would think that wearing some idiotic wizard bikini and letting sweaty geeks snuggle up to you for hours on end for a pitiful amount of money would be much worse than dancing up on stage -- safely away from the sweat and blubber of the fans -- for a few minutes a night and much more money.

    1. Re:Why? by QuantumRiff · · Score: 5, Funny

      Mom,
      I told you to stop posting to slashdot! Please keep our family life out of this!

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    2. Re:Why? by Bozzio · · Score: 1

      Probably because of the NUDITY.

      Sheesh, at a gig like this one you're only selling your dignity, but in a strip joint you're also selling your body. That may not be a big deal to you, but for most people their body is sacred and private.

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    3. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      That may not be a big deal to you, but for most people their body is sacred and private.

      Ever been to a beach?

    4. Re:Why? by etymxris · · Score: 1
      Why is this better than a job at a strip club?
      There's no deep, moral reason. Just that most would prefer being a booth babe to a stripper. Not that I've done a scientific survey or anything, but I'd be surprised to see things otherwise.
    5. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      This the case for the VAST majority of the strip clubs out there.

      In your wet dreams, man. You're so full of shit. I've known several strippers at several different establishments and at least in this town, that's just not the case.

    6. Re:Why? by blincoln · · Score: 1

      In your wet dreams, man. You're so full of shit. I've known several strippers at several different establishments and at least in this town, that's just not the case.

      Mod parent up. I'm sure there are sleazy strip clubs out there, but that does not mean most of them are covert brothels.

      Strippers don't appeal to me, but if I were female it would be at least a little tempting to *work* at a place like that. They make a TON of money. A friend of mine was showing me her photo album, and one of the pictures was of a blonde girl with a brand-new silver European sports car. That girl was a stripper, and got that car as a tip.

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    7. Re:Why? by Meagermanx · · Score: 2, Funny

      What, with like, a "sky" and stuff?

    8. Re:Why? by PyroMosh · · Score: 1

      I've not known that to be the case either. Most places keep close tabs on their girls because they don't want to get shut down for anything illegal.

      That said, the girls make next to nothing dancing. Going up on stage a few times, perhaps 5 minutes out of an hour and dancing for a few dollars in your g-string? That's just what gets people into the club, bud. The money they make is by hustling people. Private dances and VIP stuff. It's not prostitution, but I know I wouldn't want to have to give lap dances for a living. Clothes on or not, giving lap dances to strangers for $20 at a time is a bit of a turnoff for me. I dated a stripped briefly (she started dancing after we were together) she hated it. But $20 a dance (a dance lasts one song, so three to five minutes) + tips beats the $5 or $10 you're going to make on stage. By a long shot.

      The girls have to tip out at the end of the night. Bouner gets his cut, DJ theirs, bartenders theirs, and the club itself usually gets a cut. If there's anything left, that's what they bring home. Usually that's good money. If it's a slow night, or they overschedule (or both), they can wind up bringing home nothing, or loosing money. But even if they do, it all evens out on weekends when they bring make most of their money. Just like any tip based job.

      Does shady stuff happen? Sure. Lots of people are corrupt. But to assert that it happens all the time or all over the place is just plain wrong.

    9. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are the rumours about the Day Star true? I have never dared to venture out during the day, because of the high radiation levels.

    10. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems the only thing wrong with stripping etc is not the act itself, but rather the attitudes of people who think they know what is best for everyone else.

    11. Re:Why? by Axis+of+Weasel · · Score: 1

      I think. It's also got some sort of silicon-based substance in a granular non-computer chip form

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    12. Re:Why? by iocat · · Score: 1

      It's also -- to some degree -- acting! You have to act like a princess, or Lara Croft, or something like that.

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    13. Re:Why? by blincoln · · Score: 1

      That said, the girls make next to nothing dancing.

      Hmm. I guess some places are different. The one where a friend of mine works now pays something like $15/hour just for the dancing.

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  9. You mean the geeks, right? by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oh god, if some of those men could only see how fucking stupid they look when they come across booth babe they might get a sense of WHY it is that they can never get a girlfriend.

    1. Re:You mean the geeks, right? by Seumas · · Score: 1

      I honestly don't think anyone cares about the booth babes. Getting a good looking chick with no self-esteem and a major attention-whore problem is easy enough for just about anyone. You don't need to go to a game convention just for that.

      I think most people who run across them tend to feel more embarassed for them than anything else.

    2. Re:You mean the geeks, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You really think that people treat "booth babes" the same way they treat other women? I doubt it, here is why.

      If you have sold yourself to someone (your looks, your body), so they can then sell me a product, I have no respect for you. Your tits are for my pleasure, to leer at if I wish, that is WHY you got hired, remember. Same with your ass, and any other part of yourself that you are using to "attract" my attention. That is why you got hired. You sold yourself, and more properly, your sexuality, to a third party, to get me to purchase a product.

      Does that mean I would leer at a woman in public, of course not. Does that mean I think that women are nothing more than a loose collection of body parts, that are solely for my enjoyment, of course not. Does that mean that I disprespect women? Of course not.

      But hey, if you want your tits to be selling that new funky gadget, then be prepared to be stared at, and spoken to like your not really there. Do I care if you have any thoughts on the subject, no, I don't. You are the hired tits, so stand there showing your tits, and shut up. If I want more information on the subject, I will ask the person who is NOT dressed like a cheap whore.

      You can not demand respect from others, when you don't respect yourself first. If you think pimping out your tits to the highest bidder at a trade show is the first step to self respect, then you are terribly mistaken.

      Does that mean that I disrespect all women who do trade shows? Of course not. I am sure that you are all bright women, with wonderful futures. But when you are filling the role of "attention getter", you will get no more respect from me, than a life sized poster would in the same situation.

    3. Re:You mean the geeks, right? by bergeron76 · · Score: 1

      How did this not get modded as insightful?

      Great post.

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    4. Re:You mean the geeks, right? by bergeron76 · · Score: 1

      True. I guess I'd probably have a stupid look at the moment I came across a booth babe. "Oh God" is right! Luckily it only lasts for a few seconds and I'd be able to go back to looking normal.

      Ok, that's enough for now.

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    5. Re:You mean the geeks, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You sound like a self important teenager who can't get a date. Shut up and listen up. The women are in control. They have what you want and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. While you struggle desperately to get laid once a year they need merely bend over. And that fucking kills you doesn't it?? Get over the fact you weren't born female and get a grip. These women aren't selling themselves, they're making a quick buck, dating eight guys at once on the side, and laughing at guys like you as they do it.

    6. Re:You mean the geeks, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound like a self important teenager who can't get a date

      Wrong, middle aged, married, to a woman who could be a booth babe, except that she has self respect.

      They have what you want and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it

      Actually, no, they don't have what I want. I have dated a number of very attractive women, some of whom would "sell" themselves for better grades, free drinks, or whatever. Not a single one of them had any self respect, that is what I want.

      While you struggle desperately to get laid once a year they need merely bend over

      I don't struggle to get laid once a DAY, how bout you?

      And that fucking kills you doesn't it

      Not at all.

      These women aren't selling themselves, they're making a quick buck, dating eight guys at once on the side

      So, your point is they are not selling themselves, except they are making money on the side by selling themselves? If they aren't selling themselves, then where are the flat chested, frumpy, non-blond girls, that make up the majority of the population?

      Your next point is they are dating 8 guys on the side. Why? Normally because they get a different benefit from each partner. One has a nice house with a pool, one gets them cheap dope, one bounches at their favorite bar and gets them in the back door, one has a nice car, one treats them like a human being, and one treats them like shit.

      Oh, and quite often, ladies like this have ZERO self esteem. Their only validation is "hooking up" . Now, there are exceptions, there always are. And morally, I could not care less.

      and laughing at guys like you as they do it.

      Possible, but I doubt it. I have never wanted for a date in my life. Quite the opposite. I became a geek by choice, not by natural selection (ie: huge social network, athletic, intelligent, attractive, rather than loving computers because no one else wanted to interact with you).

      Nice attempt at a flame, but I think you missed the point. Not to mention all of your assumptions were incorrect.

    7. Re:You mean the geeks, right? by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      These women aren't selling themselves, they're making a quick buck

      Yeah, I bet that's what prostitutes tell themselves too.

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  10. So let's get this right... by ringbarer · · Score: 0

    Booth babes are whores to be pitied and reviled, but some whore frigging herself off with a cyberdildo to Rez is a shining example of liberation?

    Ugly women really need to stop being jealous of pretty women.

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    1. Re:So let's get this right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Ugly women really need to stop being jealous of pretty women.

      Um...what pretty women? There weren't any in TFA.

    2. Re:So let's get this right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um...what pretty women? There weren't any in TFA.
      Nor were there any who wrote TF"A".

  11. America the Puritanical by witchman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Once again, we Americans are showing our puritanical roots, with the old credo, "Violence is ok, but anything to do with sex or sexuality is very shameful and bad!" So the companies use good looking women to attract attention to their products, wow, such crimes against humanity should not be allowed to persist in our "enlightened" society. Oh, by the way, pass me another beer while I watch a bunch of foreigners get blown up by our precision guided 500 pound bombs on CNN.

    Sorry, but I think there are a lot of things to be upset about in this country of ours and booth babes are waaaaaaaaaaay down at the bottom of the list.

    1. Re:America the Puritanical by PylonHead · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Would you feel the same way if a soapsuds company hired some Chippendale dancers to bump and grind in the aisles of your local grocery store to promote their product?

      My guess: You'ld find it less than comfortable. The girls are just pointing out the same thing.

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    2. Re:America the Puritanical by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 4, Insightful
      You'ld find it less than comfortable. The girls are just pointing out the same thing.
      No, they're just trying to drive up traffic to their website by posting pictures of half-naked women. Just like the booth babe employers.

      If there was... iduno... content to the hall of shame aside from said photos, I might feel differently. But there isn't and I don't. The booth babe interviews from previous years are much more interesting and better at humanizing the issue (however much or little an issue it is).
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    3. Re:America the Puritanical by snorklewacker · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying it's bad ... I'm saying it's juvenile. If our society had a mature attitude toward sex, we wouldn't ban booth babes, and yes they might still be employed, but we wouldn't make such a big honking deal out of them.

      I'm offended at the objectification aspect. Not objectification in general, I don't have a problem with objectification among the willing, good looks is good looks, and if you want to flaunt it, great.. but the really juvenile point-and-giggle-and-ogle objectification. Systematic objectification so undersocialized males can get their jollies or be drawn like moths to a booth at a goddam tech convention.

      I don't think I'm a goddam prude to be offended at the degree of cynical manipulation going on.

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    4. Re:America the Puritanical by yotto · · Score: 1

      Would you feel the same way if a soapsuds company hired some Chippendale dancers to bump and grind in the aisles of your local grocery store to promote their product?

      I'll bite. Yes, I would feel differently. But then again, grocery stores are far more public than E3.

      If that soap company, during the national S3 (Stupendous Soap S...omethingathon) extravaganza hired those same dancers to appeal to the women who would be touring their booths? Why not? Are you telling me you think that would be wrong?

    5. Re:America the Puritanical by PylonHead · · Score: 1

      You're right, it is less public. But you wrecked my analogy while you were at it, unless of course, you actually attend soap conventions.

      In whatever it is you do, imagine if you had to conduct your business with some big brawny guy hanging out of a g-string.

      Personally, I find the idea kind of exciting, but that's because I like big brawny guys hanging out of g-strings. But it wouldn't be fair to those who might not.

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    6. Re:America the Puritanical by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Violence is ok, but anything to do with sex or sexuality is very shameful and bad!"

      Look, I like tits and ass as much as the next guy, but there's a time and a place for everything, and I get sick of T&A being over-used to hit that lowest common denominator in advertising.

      "So the companies use good looking women to attract attention to their products,"

      Whatever happened to using the products themselves? Or are they simply not good enough to stand on their own two feet? Another issue I have with the concept of booth babes is the way publishers rely on them and their digital counterparts in the games to move product instead of, say, making a good game.

      Your argument about how the US is pro-violence and anti-sex is ultmately a straw man argument here, anyway. I didn't see anything in TFA about blowing stuff up, and at least I personally think the concept of over-relying on cleavage to sell a game is just lame in and of its own right. How about countering my argument instead of the usual collection of anti-American soundbites?

    7. Re:America the Puritanical by salesgeek · · Score: 1

      Once again, we Americans are showing our puritanical roots, with the old credo, "Violence is ok, but anything to do with sex or sexuality is very shameful and bad!"

      Why deprive geeks of the fleeting hope that they one day might get a chance to reproduce? Why deprive young women who can't get another job and who can't dance from making a buck?

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    8. Re:America the Puritanical by ndansmith · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Sorry, but I think there are a lot of things to be upset about in this country of ours and booth babes are waaaaaaaaaaay down at the bottom of the list.

      If you look at how many people are affected in our country (and in others) by women being objectified and marginalized, you may think that the problem behind "booth babes" is more important.

    9. Re:America the Puritanical by file-exists-p · · Score: 1


      You missed the point. The problem is in using women as furnitures and making them wear ugly supposedly sexy outfits (geeks dig xena).

      Wonder if those geniuses really expect to increase their sales with the female audience.

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    10. Re:America the Puritanical by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      In whatever it is you do, imagine if you had to conduct your business with some big brawny guy hanging out of a g-string.

      You're modifying your argument to make it stronger; "business" isn't really conducted at these trade shows. Products are shown off and hyped up and any edge to get more attention is used; including sex.

      Now, if (as a straight, married, male) my industry held an annual convention for new product (new meeting, new gadgets, whatever) promotion; and my industry was primarily made up of people who would find dancing sexy men appealing (considering I'm a librarian, that's not too far-fetched); then I wouldn't really have a problem with said dancing men being used by companies in their promotions.

      Why should it bother me? Oh no, there's a bored half-naked dude standing around the new Docutek Web Interface promotion?

    11. Re:America the Puritanical by brotherscrim · · Score: 2, Funny

      (Stupendous Soap S...omethingathon) Symposium?

    12. Re:America the Puritanical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      usual collection of anti-American soundbites?

      Any argument you may have had just dissolved into pointlessness.

      Why should anyone even discuss anything with you if you're going to start labelling anything you don't like as "anti-American"?

    13. Re:America the Puritanical by Guppy06 · · Score: 1
      "Why should anyone even discuss anything with you if you're going to start labelling anything you don't like as "anti-American"?"

      ... what are you, a bot? Grepping Slashdot for the phrase "anti-American?"

      Look at the subject!

      Quoth the original poster:

      we Americans are showing our puritanical roots
      I didn't call the poster "anti-American" because he was saying something I didn't like, I called him that because that is practically what he called himself! He used generic "the US is anti-sex and pro-violence" arguments when violence wasn't even mentioned, apparently for no other purpose than to denegrate the US instead of staying on topic.

      Nobody complained to the FCC about booth babes, John Ashcroft didn't step out of retirement to throw up a curtain in front of booth babes, and I have yet to hear any anti-booth babe legislation (to save the children! (TM)) mentioned in Congress. Maybe if I said "anti-US" instead of "anti-American" your code wouldn't have found me.
    14. Re:America the Puritanical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      He used generic "the US is anti-sex and pro-violence" arguments when violence wasn't even mentioned
      Violence is implied when talking about video games.
    15. Re:America the Puritanical by PylonHead · · Score: 1

      Yes, it's hype, and yes, it's business. People get paid to go to these things and make decisions on what they're going to write about in their magazines, what they're going to stock on their shelves, what companies they plan to buy, what games they're going to publish.

      When most industries were old boys clubs, the booth babe phenomenon was a lot more prevalent. As these industries became more integrated it fell by the wayside. From the original article, it sounds like it's starting to recede at E3 as well.

      Puritanism? Naw. Just a recognition that not all of your audience are looking for tits and ass.

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    16. Re:America the Puritanical by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      Just a recognition that not all of your audience are looking for tits and ass.

      Sure, but what if most of your audience is? I know that I'd spend more time at a booth with a babe than one without. Unless the product was really, really crappy.

    17. Re:America the Puritanical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that we were settled by Puritans and various other weird religious sects that were chased out of England, who waited a bit and then proceded to demolish their foreign opressors in a bloody revolution driven primarily by greed...

      Hence, money and violence good, boobies bad.

  12. What Shame? by Nytewynd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can anyone else think of a better idea to get lonely gamers (the kind that would go to E3 to begin with) to check out their booth? These are just good looking girls is tight outfits. Depending on where you live, you can see that in any bar/club anyway. Just check out the girls that come around on promos or sell shots.

    Most likely, they are girls that are looking for modeling/acting jobs. I guess that is a modeling job, but I guarantee they could make more money on the pole. At least strippers don't have to pose next to a fat bald guy so he can show the pictures to his friends as proof of his story that he made out with a hot chick.

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    1. Re:What Shame? by ComputerSlicer23 · · Score: 1
      It's my understanding, that headlining strippers actually make money posing for pictures before and after their act. You can either get polariods right on the spot, or a signed professional print (obviously you aren't in that).

      So yes, strippers do actually generate income standing next the fact bald guy (or signing picture for him). Or so I've heard. Never been to a strip club, but cable channels periodically as a "Day in the Life" of strippers show that is interesting to see what goes on behind the scenes. It's a different lifestyle, that's for sure.

      Personally, it's a lap dance that I would find the most degrading. There you get to rub yourself up against the fat, smelly, balding guy. Boy oh boy, what fun.

      Kirby

    2. Re:What Shame? by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At least strippers don't have to pose next to a fat bald guy so he can show the pictures to his friends as proof of his story that he made out with a hot chick.

      No, instead they get to give the bald fat guy a lap dance, and feel his dick getting hard as they grind against it in a sexual manner. Honestly, if I was a female, it'd take far less money to convince me to pose with a bunch of geeks for pictures than it would to convince me to rub myself all over those same geeks.

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    3. Re:What Shame? by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "Can anyone else think of a better idea to get lonely gamers (the kind that would go to E3 to begin with) to check out their booth?"

      Depends on the gamer/geek in question. From where I sit, it seems that flashy booth babes will only attract the creepy geeks and actually repel those less-caustic geeks that would be too intimidated to be within two meters of one.

      Of course, I thought E3 was all about the games, anyway. Unless it's a T&A game, it seems all the booth babes would do is distract from the product they're supposed to be selling, no matter what kind of geek we're talking about.

    4. Re:What Shame? by Nasarius · · Score: 1
      Can anyone else think of a better idea to get lonely gamers (the kind that would go to E3 to begin with) to check out their booth?

      I thought E3 was press-only, but I just checked the site and apparently anyone willing to spend a few hundred bucks can attend. Did they change this recently, or was I misinformed?

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    5. Re:What Shame? by PedanticSpellingTrol · · Score: 1

      Wait a minute... the ladies take off their clothes and dance around a bit, and the fat bald guy gives up his hard earned cash? Who's really being exploited?

    6. Re:What Shame? by emilng · · Score: 4, Funny

      Who's really being exploited?
      EA workers who are being managed by the fat bald guy?

    7. Re:What Shame? by urbaer · · Score: 1

      Unless it's a T&A game, it seems all the booth babes would do is distract from the product they're supposed to be selling, no matter what kind of geek we're talking about.
      Agreed, I can barely (if at all) tell what games these booth babes are actually promoting. Can't wait for E3 2010 when there aren't any games at all...

  13. Not what I see... by Reorax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From what I can tell, they're not even smiling on the outside. And I doubt their Guild Wars plans were very intense before swearing it off forever.

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    1. Re:Not what I see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Our ladies are so naked, they're not even wearing a smile."

    2. Re:Not what I see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Our ladies are so naked you can touch their intestines.

  14. Where else can you find boothbabes? by MMaestro · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The issue isn't about making women into sex objects this way, the issue is WHY here in video gaming? This isn't the movie industry where the females are always the 'damsel in distress', no this is the video game industry where the women can sometimes kick ass better than the males (Samus from Metroid? MMO games? Garnet/Dagger from FFIX who runs away from home/gets 'kidnapped'?)

    If this was a car show I could see booth babes being around, but video games? Wtf? If this is the kind of perception gaming developers and producers have of gamers its no wonder Nintendo is constantly cranking out award winning games and capturing a loyal audience. Kids don't care about booth babes. Casual gamers don't care about booth babes. Hardcore gamers may stare for a little bit but even they know that it all comes down to gameplay. What kind of jobless losers are these developers try to attract with booth babes?

    1. Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? by DAldredge · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because Men and Women like looking at attractive females. Just pick up a womans magazine and see how many barely dressed women advertize products that women buy.

    2. Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? by Lisandro · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because they're women, man, and they have tits :)

      Seriously, is the same reason they put beautiful women in every single commercial oriented to males. We just love to see them. It's simple.

    3. Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? by witchman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I understand your question; "why here?" but I think you're missing the point. Booth babes are just a small part of the larger phenomenon in American advertising, which is, "sex sells". You can see that in everything and everywhere, ads, TV shows, clothing, food, etc. I also happen to agree that it's a waste of advertising dollars, or maybe even development dollars, to spend money on the sex sells advertising campaign, but as long as Americans are "sex starved", I mean you can't even see any nudity on TV here, but you can see people getting killed (how wrong is that?), then you'll continue to see a glut of sex-based advertising.

      What I dislike about the article, if you can actually call it that, is that it (too me at least) implies that there is something wrong with enjoying the sight of scantily clad women, which I don't happen to think that there is, whatever the reason.

    4. Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1
      I mean you can't even see any nudity on TV here

      You must a whole different TV system than most people have available. Cable channels (HBO, Cinemax, etc) have stuff on all the time.

      Oh, you mean on every channel, anytime you want. Well, no, not on the broadcast channels.

    5. Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? by Rayonic · · Score: 1
      What kind of jobless losers are these developers try to attract with booth babes?

      Journalists? It is a trade show.
    6. Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      What kind of jobless losers are these developers try to attract with booth babes?

      They are not trying to attract anyone. Some game exec is just using the show as an excuse to spend game company money interviewing hundreds of babes for the job. Wouldn't you like to be in charge of auditions for hiring?

    7. Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? by DZign · · Score: 1

      It seems to work to get people to their booths, right ? And in magazines, on fansites these pictures are shown more.. any attention is good for them.

      I was at the ATEI show in London in January (see my website for a review with some pictures of it)
      where arcade games are presented and sold.. almost all booth babes were at the booth of Sega.. maybe 2 other smaller booths also had 1 babe and that was it. But Sega's booth had 6 or 7 ?

      As I say on my website, I found it weird to find the booth babes at such a large companies booth. I'd expect them at an unknown company which wants to get its name known.
      In case of Sega, the row of dlx-sitdown outrun 2 arcades was more than impressive enough.. the babes posing for pictures were more a distraction to the games. So as far as promoting the Outrun 2 game I don't think they were helping a lot. And I felt almost ashamed for being a man, seeing 10 men in suits waiting in line to have their picture taken..

    8. Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? by stlhawkeye · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The issue isn't about making women into sex objects this way, the issue is WHY here in video gaming? This isn't the movie industry where the females are always the 'damsel in distress', no this is the video game industry where the women can sometimes kick ass better than the males (Samus from Metroid? MMO games? Garnet/Dagger from FFIX who runs away from home/gets 'kidnapped'?)

      Why must female sexuality be mutually exclusive with "kicking ass"? Or being smart? Or being successful? Or anything other than sexual objectificiation? Why is it that any display of female sexuality is instantly branded as somehow belittling women and reducing them to nothing but their reproductive capacity? Why can't a woman be intelligent, able to kick your ass in a sparring match, and be sexy? Why is it that our response to all attractive, sexy women is to immediately go on the defensive on their behalf for how they are being exloited for their looks and used?

      This isn't the movie industry where the females are always the 'damsel in distress', no this is the video game industry where the women can sometimes kick ass better than the males

      So what? There's all kinds of movies about the myth of the "women who can kick ass." And they're always hot, too. Why is that ok for the movies but not for video games?

      If this was a car show I could see booth babes being around, but video games?

      What do sexy women have to do with cars, beyond wealthy unattractive men trying to win them over by buying expensive foreign roadsters?

      If this is the kind of perception gaming developers and producers have of gamers

      What, that your typical gamer is a sexually repressed male between the ages of 15 and 35? I don't think they're far off.

      Casual gamers don't care about booth babes.

      Casual gamers don't attend E3. They've never even heard of it.

      Hardcore gamers may stare for a little bit but even they know that it all comes down to gameplay.

      I'm glad you speak for the entire community of "hardcore" gamers, they appreciate your representation.

      What kind of jobless losers are these developers try to attract with booth babes?

      They're trying to attract everybody who is there. You are almost violently offended by this, and your reaction suggests, to me, a level of discomfort with female sexuality in "your" corner of the entertainment industry.

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    9. Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1
      Booth babes are just a small part of the larger phenomenon in American advertising, which is, "sex sells".

      This is NOT an American phenomenon. Feel free to watch advertising from anywhere around the world, you'll see that "sex sells" to everybody.

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    10. Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? by Golias · · Score: 2, Funny

      Because Men and Women like looking at attractive females.

      And with good reason...

      Women are pretty. Men are not. Simple as that.

      If you want people's attention, something pretty to look at usually works better than something which is not. That much should be obvious to anybody.

      Personally, I go out of my way to buy products which use beautiful women to promote them, because I want to encourage companies to continue the practice... I don't know what the hell I'm going to do with a box of "Intuition" leg razor cartriges, but there's a principle to uphold here, dammit!

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    11. Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? by spinkham · · Score: 1

      Why must female sexuality be mutually exclusive with "kicking ass"? Or being smart? Or being successful? Or anything other than sexual objectificiation? Why is it that any display of female sexuality is instantly branded as somehow belittling women and reducing them to nothing but their reproductive capacity? Why can't a woman be intelligent, able to kick your ass in a sparring match, and be sexy? Why is it that our response to all attractive, sexy women is to immediately go on the defensive on their behalf for how they are being exloited for their looks and used?

      Because it makes girls who are neither sexy nor can kick ass feel bad about themselves.

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    12. Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? by HiVizDiver · · Score: 1

      They're everywhere. Booth babes are at just about every type of convention you can imagine - I worked an insurance convention a few years ago - there were booth babes there. Not as many as you might see at a car show or E3, but there were plenty.

    13. Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? by CaseM · · Score: 1

      I might be going out on a limb, here, but maybe it's because the vast majority of E3 demographic like tits?

    14. Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? by G-funk · · Score: 1

      This is because of a fundamental difference in the way we're wired up. Want to sell stuff to a woman? Show her who she'd like to be. Want to sell stuff to a man? Show him what he wants to posess. The solution: Show everyone "cool" hot chicks.

      Why yes, I do like my gross sexist generalisations. They get my point across, are usually fairly accurate, and still manage to offend every woman who thinks "I'm not like other women" (ie, all of them).

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    15. Re:Where else can you find boothbabes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because looking like a "booth babe" takes so much time and effort for most people that one is not left with the time or energy to be successful at something else.

      Being slender and toned means working out at least an hour a day. Blow-drying and arranging hair probably takes a good 20 minutes. Putting on makeup takes 20 minutes, if you are talking "glamour" makeup like those women are wearing. That's almost two hours a day right there.

      Keeping that manicure up means weekly manicures and bi-weekly pedicures. Especially with shorter hairstyles, monthly trips haircuts are needed. Many women also dye their hair or perm it. Dye needs to be touched up every month or so (takes over an hour), perms can be done a couple of times a year.

      Then there is the eyebrow shaping, body waxing (or expensive laser treatments) the trips to the tanning parlor (for those that do that), trips to the facialist. Ladies who are serious about their facials might go every month, and it takes an hour each time.

      And that doesn't include the time taken shopping for fashionable clothes.

  15. Oh by Konster · · Score: 5, Funny

    This...this is how nerds would dress up their women...if only they had women.

    And names? If nerds could name their women?

    Grepina! The goddess of search!

    1. Re:Oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      Bzzttt!

      Sorry retard. 'Nerds' have nothing to do with booth babes. In fact for most game companies a good percentage of the company doesn't even attend E3, let alone know about the company's E3 plans outside of what they are working on to demo at the show.

      Booth babes are a marketing department phenomenon. And game company marketing departments have a high percentage of female staff - easily 50-50.

      But thanks for sharing your inane opinion. Perhaps someday you'll actually land a testing job at a game company and see what they are really like inside.

      Make sure to use the word 'nerds' when you do. You'll most likely get your ass kicked right there by one of those very 'nerds' right in front of his girlfriend before he drives off in his sports car for an expensive lunch...

    2. Re:Oh by Konster · · Score: 1

      LOL...moron.

    3. Re:Oh by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      So does that mean we can have the vi vs. emacs debate settled once and for all by a mud-wrestling match?

    4. Re:Oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG OMG! A testing job? Keep reaching for that rainbow. Maybe you'll get an extra $1 hour to take out the trash for them too.

  16. Sacred and private? Funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sheesh, at a gig like this one you're only selling your dignity, but in a strip joint you're also selling your body. That may not be a big deal to you, but for most people their body is sacred and private.

    This may come as a shock to you, but many (not all) women with great bodies like showing them off. Your statement seems to be implying that all women would prefer to keep themselves covered up at all times and that they are making some shameful sacrifice by taking off their clothes. We agree that the booth babes are selling their dignity but I certainly don't agree that strippers are selling their dignity plus something additional. Women who go into stripping (and stay with it longer than a month) probably feel comfortable with what they do. As far as "selling their body", I'm not sure if you are insinuating that all strippers are whores, as one of the posters above did, or you're referring to something else. Strippers are dancers and they are in control. These booth babes are not in control at all. It's complete different. You seem to be implying that because strippers wear fewer clothes than booth babes that somehow their job is much worse. That kind of thinking just baffles me.

  17. Re:Uh.... by mbrewthx · · Score: 3, Funny

    Toatlly agree!! It get's even more insane when they dress up as the girl they want. When I leaving the theater after seeing Star Wars there was a uber nerd dressed as Princess Leia, buns and all. But the Leia had a beard, so I ponderd, umm must be French..

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  18. booth babe insight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    As someone who is dating a "boothbabe" who was working at e3, I can share a few things that can tell you how they relate to the show and guys.

    1) Majority of the girls that they hire hate or don't care about video games. Surprisingly enough, some of the girls take to video games after the show, but that is usually only if they are stationed around a fun for everybody game. Which means not the blood and guts shooting games that tend to make up the majority of the show.

    2) These girls know exactly what to expect from guys there. Afterall, these guys are not *just* at e3, they are at movie theaters, malls, streets, etc. They know how guys respond to them and how to fake smile well. An extra bonus they even have a section in their training manual about dealing with "problem" guys.

    3) They get paid well. Most girls can work two days and make enough to pay their bills for a month. Plus, we are talking LA where the cost of living is quite high so that is real good money. These girls are usually all "models" and are usually contracted through an agency or agent.

    4) A lot of these girls are quite smart and just do this to make some extra money on the side. A lot are "wannabe actresses" of course, but if you have the goods, why not use it right?

    5) I'm a gamer, I work in the biz, I did e3 and I'm dating a "booth babe." So use that for whatever hope you want :P (though I did meet her before e3 started).

    1. Re:booth babe insight by Loualbano2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Does she have friends?

      Can you hook me up?

      -ft

    2. Re:booth babe insight by nacturation · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sorry, all her friends ae busy at a sleepover right now.

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  19. Shame? by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Attractive women getting paid to stand around and draw attention to thier clients' booths? Appalling!

    Next thing you know, they'll start paying strong, athletic people just to play sports, or they'll pay introverted, academic types to research new technologies! Oh, the humanity!

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    1. Re:Shame? by bigbigbison · · Score: 1

      OK, so athletes are good at sports and academics are good at academic things. What does an atractive woman have to do with videogames?
      I think that is the question that things like the "booth Babe Hall of Shame" is trying to ask.

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    2. Re:Shame? by TopShelf · · Score: 1

      Attractive women have lots to do with marketing, whether for video games, domain registrars (GoDaddy), or hamburgers (Hardee's).

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    3. Re:Shame? by bigbigbison · · Score: 1

      Hardee's uses women in marketing? All the ads from them I've seen lately have been big closeups of the sandwich or guys sitting on a stool talking to the camera?

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    4. Re:Shame? by TopShelf · · Score: 1

      Check out their website for the latest commercial, which will certainly bring you up to date. It basically involves Paris Hilton, a sports car, and a lot of suds...

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    5. Re:Shame? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It basically involves Paris Hilton,

      Gah, Paris Hilton, that's enough to put me off my lunch for the next few days. Why exactly is this the skank-heiress supposed to be attractive again?

  20. Ok, so it's sexist by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ya, the presence of and gawking over booth babes is sexist and objectifies women. Now, why am I supposed to care? I'm sorry ladies, but guys are very simple creatures, we like looking at semi-naked, good looking, women. If they happen to be in a costume that reflects a particular interest of ours, then all the better.
    There is sort of a catch-22 going on at shows like this one. Gaming has usually been the domain of males. Because gaming has been primarilly the domian of males, the advertising is aimed at males. Since the advertising and games are aimed primarilly at males, the industry attracts a mostly male audience, goto 10.
    Booth babes are going to be a part of gaming for a long time to come, and I doubt they will ever disappear entirely. Once the industry matures (no pun intended) we should see that sort of advertising toned down a bit, but it will still be there. At the end of the day, it's still easy to sell a guy on sex, so advertisers will still be doing it for years to come. Look at the music industry, do you really think Britney Spears would have done so well if she had dressed respectfully?

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    1. Re:Ok, so it's sexist by Rufus88 · · Score: 1

      ... we like looking at semi-naked...

      Well, you're half right.

    2. Re:Ok, so it's sexist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm sorry ladies, but guys are very simple creatures, we like looking at semi-naked, good looking, women. If they happen to be in a costume that reflects a particular interest of ours, then all the better."

      What a fucking dork. I don't know what the fuck goes through dweebs heads when they "come clean about men"

      Grow the fuck up little boy.

    3. Re:Ok, so it's sexist by Yosho · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm sorry ladies, but guys are very simple creatures, we like looking at semi-naked, good looking, women.

      Want to know a secret? Girls like looking at good-looking naked guys, too. The fact that you believe they don't is why they're capable of controlling you.

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    4. Re:Ok, so it's sexist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm sorry ladies, but guys are very simple creatures, we like looking at semi-naked, good looking, women.

      Want to know a secret? Girls like looking at good-looking naked guys, too. The fact that you believe they don't is why they're capable of controlling you."

      Yep.

      Anyone want to bet the guy has "How to pickup chicks" books around his place that he scans through for "good lines" he can use "to score"...

    5. Re:Ok, so it's sexist by JFMulder · · Score: 1

      Look at the music industry, do you really think Britney Spears would have done so well if she had dressed respectfully?

      Seriously, I don't know a guy that likes Britney Spears music. Sure, they would like to sleep with her, but they are not the ones who buy her albums. She must be selling posters to these guys, but still. She's mainly supported by women, or teenage girls.

      I not sure the fact that she dresses like a whore has anything to do with her being rich. Success, yes, but money, no.

    6. Re:Ok, so it's sexist by MegaHyster · · Score: 0
      She's mainly supported by women

      Some strippers use Britney Spears' music to dance to...

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    7. Re:Ok, so it's sexist by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 1

      Want to know a secret? Girls like looking at good-looking naked guys, too. The fact that you believe they don't is why they're capable of controlling you.

      While I would bet that this is true to some extent, I think guys have it worse. Or, at least, its much more prevalent. If you look at advertising, when a product is being targeted at a male audiance, you can generally expect to see one or more good looking women in various states of undress. Or, at least, the implication that the product is useful for attracting a good looking woman. It might just be the TV I watch, but I don't see the reverse as commonly. Yes, it does exist, I think there is an Expedia commercial that uses a male model for sex appeal, but most of the commercials seem to either use female models or try to sell a product without overt sexual overtones.
      I know women are hardwired for sex, just like men are, but I think that, at least in the US, the gender roles that we are trained with from a young age tend to make women supress their sexuality more than males. Consider for a moment the "teen preganancy" epidemic. It usually centers around "teen mothers". For every one of those teen mothers you can be certain that there was a father involved at the point of conception, and many of those fathers are teens themselves. But the stigma gets attached to the female, she will become everything from a slut to a whore, while the guy will be getting high-fives from his buddies. We've created a society where a sexually active female gets ostracized, while a male that engages in the same activity gains prestiege.
      I think this is why we see men more willing to express thier sexual interests than women, and why the sexual advertising works better on men than women. Men have been trained for thie entire secondary schooling that having sex and being sexual is a positive thing, while women have been taught that it is a bad thing to be suppressed. After enough training, that sort of thing becomes ingrained second nature (see Pavlov's dog).

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    8. Re:Ok, so it's sexist by BlueFashoo · · Score: 1

      My last company, which manufactures controls and calibrators for automated diagnostic machines (Biotech) had booth babes at the American Association of Clinical Chemists. They sold stuff to hospitals and research labs. There are plenty of women in biotech. Biotech is not a male dominated field. My first company out of college had more female chemists than male. The manager of my department told me that he interviews every male that applies for a position, just so he can try and keep a better balance. I would expect that booth babes will always be at E3.

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    9. Re:Ok, so it's sexist by bergeron76 · · Score: 1

      No. The fact that when they cry/whine/become emotionally unstable/etc and we can't legally kick their ass when they do is why they're capable of controlling us.

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    10. Re:Ok, so it's sexist by Yosho · · Score: 1

      I agree with your post, but I think that it is actually less applicable than normal in the area of video games (and Japanese animation, too). Although you don't typically see "booth hunks" hanging around at expos, games themselves are filled with attractive men. Just put the name of your favorite game in Google, followed by "yaoi," and watch the gay porn links roll in.

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    11. Re:Ok, so it's sexist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My last company, which manufactures controls and calibrators for automated diagnostic machines (Biotech) had booth babes at the American Association of Clinical Chemists. They sold stuff to hospitals and research labs.

      The difference is you can presumably find a decent number of women who are interested and knowledgable about the biotech industry, as well as being attractive enough to draw attention. If the women in question can actually carry on an informed conversation on your company's products after drawing attention, they are more than just eye-candy.

  21. Complaining by tprime · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What I am confused about is, although those booth babes are being horribly mistreated and exploited, I haven't heard one of them complain.....

    I wonder why that is.....

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    1. Re:Complaining by yotto · · Score: 1

      What I am confused about is, although those booth babes are being horribly mistreated and exploited, I haven't heard one of them complain.....

      I wonder why that is.....


      I know, could it be because they're making good cash for standing around and doing nothing (or next to it)? I'm sorry, but if I was a chick and looked like them I'd happily take the job, sweaty dudes and all.

    2. Re:Complaining by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't hear them complain because you don't hear them after work. See they are there as professionals. They only get to complain on their break or own time after the show. The turn over rate for E3 booth babes is huge and it's not that companies don't want to rehire women with previous E3 experience. There were some good writups about their gripes and likes at E3 a few years ago. Unfortunately most require subscriptions. "I was an E3 booth babe" perhaps in adcritic and the magazine that used a Bill Gates clone for it's cover few years back had the definitive writeups. All I could find quickly was this one.

      http://www.gamecritics.com/feature/report/e3expo20 04_babes/page01.php

      The bottom line some do it for the money at the show, some do it for the followups (none worth it at E3 was one of the comments in an article) and some do it to break into the biz.

    3. Re:Complaining by stlhawkeye · · Score: 1
      What I am confused about is, although those booth babes are being horribly mistreated and exploited, I haven't heard one of them complain.....

      This is one of my platitudes about life and politics: everybody has strong principles until it's their own money that's at stake.

      Everybody has grand ideas for how YOU should spend your money, what YOU should get paid for, how much your employer can afford, how much Wal*Mart should pay their people, how high taxes should be, blah blah blah. Everybody has a very high-principled ideal of what people should and should not do (or be allowed to do) for money.

      Until somebody waves $5,000 in front of you and says, "Wear this wizard costume for two days and tolerate the clumsy pawing and slack-jawed stares of overweight men."

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    4. Re:Complaining by tprime · · Score: 1

      That was my point...

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  22. Some thoughts.. by Lally+Singh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1. "but three days of snapping Poloroids with sweaty game geeks leads these girls to swear off Guild Wars forever." -- How many were considering Guild Wars before?

    2. How much of the motivation for these women's presence came from the marketing dept trying to convince their own developers to come to the show?

    3. Usually frills like these are a good indicator of an oversaturated, undergrowing market. And again, the indicator is proven true.

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    1. Re:Some thoughts.. by -kertrats- · · Score: 1

      Booth babes have been around since the beginning of the show, when the industry was growing by orders of magnitude. I think you're wrong.

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    2. Re:Some thoughts.. by digitalchinky · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Don't forget 'cosplay', been around since forever, along with race bunnies, E3 looks tame compared to all the Asian gigs going on.

      Mmmmm dressed up japanese chicks.... I'm going to live in asia forever.

    3. Re:Some thoughts.. by Pulse_Instance · · Score: 1

      There are booth babes at car shows too, does this mean that car shows are on the decline? What about beer commercials, honestly what you have said makes no sense.

    4. Re:Some thoughts.. by Lally+Singh · · Score: 1

      There are always booth babes. The number (entire booths set up as playpens for the babes to sit in, with no product??) and prevalence (I'm hearing more about them than anything else (XBox 360 and PS3 included!)) are the indicators.

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  23. Well, let's see.... by wowbagger · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, let's see.

    The wizardess gets an automatic -1 on any male opponent's Concentration - so opposing spellcasters cannot complete their spells as easily.

    The gals faking the sleepover - well, at least they are getting to sit down. Anybody who has worked a trade show will tell you standing up in the booth all day WILL make your feet sore - especially if you are wearing dress shoes when you usually weare sneakers (I speak from experience!)

    1. Re:Well, let's see.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The wizardess gets an automatic -1 on any male opponent's Concentration - so opposing spellcasters cannot complete their spells as easily."

      Are you female? I assume so, because it looks like you are having trouble concentrating...

      Was that comment supposed to be directed at something?

  24. Pol-A-roid. by nunchux · · Score: 1

    Sorry to be a spelling nazi... But as a camera collector and an Outkast fan it was really bugging me.

    1. Re:Pol-A-roid. by Loonacy · · Score: 1

      As opposed to Poll-A-roid, where you get to ask your hemorrhoids all those dirty questions.

  25. Like totally! by bergeron76 · · Score: 3, Funny

    From the article:
    We know it's tough being an actress/model in LA, but there's got got to be better gigs than pretending to have a sleepover party in the middle of a trade show.

    Quoth Lord Dimboress:
    "We couldn't even wear thongs! Like OMFG! Not having something in my butt was the most difficult thing ever! I sooo hope I get paid for this."

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  26. Re:Uh.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    What is this, a bunch of guys making fun of girls that they would never get? Gosh, that just seems... well.... asinine!

    Yes, because you're only allowed to make fun of people who want to have sex with you. That totally makes sense.

  27. One dude's suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's kind of a right-wing guy, but the idea ain't bad: Put normal gamer girls out there, and don't dress them up like Barbie.

  28. Re:Sacred and private? Funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And how many strippers stay in it for longer than a month without resorting to cocaine to keep doing the job? And keep stripping so they can afford the blow to keep stripping so they can keep buying blow?

    I know a lot of girls who dabbled in stripping. And many of the places are in fact as sleazy as many movies etc make them out to be, only with less glamour and the customers smell worse. The line of dancers who want to work at the couple actual classy (or relatively classy) strip joints is very very long if you don't have the perfect (and that often means augmented) body.

    And in my mind, going to a strip club isn't about getting your rocks off. It's about finding just how much you can embarass a girl with a dollar.

  29. Re:Uh.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MMMM... its seems to me that this is a site for girls... so they go the right to complain and make fun of it. But we males, got to admit our condition: we love to see cute girls doing some cosplay.

  30. Answer: Everywhere. by Westacular · · Score: 4, Funny

    Have you ever been to an Auto Show? Or a football game?

    Oh, wait, those are only for low-life shmucks who aren't ashamed of being attracted to women and aren't smart enough to spend all their time toying with computers.

    A modern, refined individual, such as one whose declared hobby is 'video games' surely cannot indulge in such vulgar interests.

  31. Re:Uh.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mod this +1 disturbing

  32. Re:Uh.... by maddskillz · · Score: 1

    More like -1, uninformed. French chicks are hot!

  33. Never could understand it by thesandtiger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Give me a normal looking person in jeans and a t-shirt who clearly feels comfortable and enjoys where they are and has something honest and interesting to say ANYDAY over a stupidly-clad smile-bot who's only interest is in getting a paycheck.

    Really, why don't they just get someone who adds real value to staff the booth as opposed to just stand around and be animate furniture? Or, hell - just admit that they're playing on the sex urges and hire escorts, giving away a free romp every hour?

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    1. Re:Never could understand it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pompoms, short skirts, and white panties can bend time and space.

      Props if anybody can recognize where it's shamelessly plagiarized from.

    2. Re:Never could understand it by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      Maxim.

      Props to Google.

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  34. Whats sad is... by karn096 · · Score: 1

    That I originally clicked on the story about the worlds most powerful laser, and right before it loaded I saw the words, babe, in the story right underneath, I immediately clicked back...*sigh*

  35. Guild Wars by 100lbHand · · Score: 1

    Quote the abstract: "They're smiling on the outside, but three days of snapping Poloroids with sweaty game geeks leads these girls to swear off Guild Wars forever."

    Three days of trying Thirsty River with crappy pick up groups is leading me to swear off Guild Wars forever.

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    1. Re:Guild Wars by chrismcdirty · · Score: 1

      Wait until you get to Hell's Precipice. Last mission in the (linear) game, but it makes me hate it so much. Earlier tonight, there was about 100 people in district 1, with close to 30 warriors, and maybe 5 monks looking for groups. Then when I actually got a group, we wiped within 15 minutes. Thirsty River was a joke compared to this.

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  36. Welcome to the United States of the Offended by DesScorp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thes people can frankly piss off, for all I care. Nothing bad was going on here. I've seen far skimpier outfits at the beach. FAR skimpier. And these women were basically playing characters from the games. The vast majority of them probably don't give a rats ass either, especially if the money is good.

    Men are attracted to women. And people have been using this fact to sell things for years. Why is it a crime now? These critics need to get over themselves, stat.

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    1. Re:Welcome to the United States of the Offended by Cornflake917 · · Score: 1

      I don't think the fact that these companies decided to hire booth babes was that bad either. I think the problem is that these booth babes remind us of how there's an underlying problem with our society.

      Sex sells and if you want your company to make money, than it's smart to use take advantage of this fact. But because so many companies do this, this idea of "women have to be beautiful to get what they want" is being soaked up by mainstream society. With that ideology floating around, theres a large amount of women who are becoming uncomfortable with their bodies. I think some people, who want equality between genders, don't like this.

      Personally, I don't mind the booth babes either. But I would also like to see these companies hire martial artists, dress them up in some ninja garb or as whatever character that's in their game, and them have them spar. I would rather see two ninja gaiden characters beat the shit out of each other than stand next to an attractive woman. I can stand next to hot girls and get my picture taken for free at clubs with no cover charge.

    2. Re:Welcome to the United States of the Offended by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But I would also like to see these companies hire martial artists, dress them up in some ninja garb or as whatever character that's in their game, and them have them spar. I would rather see two ninja gaiden characters beat the shit out of each other than stand next to an attractive woman. I can stand next to hot girls and get my picture taken for free at clubs with no cover charge.

      You're right! If I'm going to pay a few hundred dollars to get into a glorified, over-hyped trade-show there should be ninjas!

  37. Re:Sacred and private? Funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And in my mind, going to a strip club isn't about getting your rocks off. It's about finding just how much you can embarass a girl with a dollar.

    Perhaps you just have a very warped mind. I've been to several strip clubs in my town. The customers aren't allowed to touch the girls and don't get any closer than the girls want to let them. While I'm sure there's the occaisional smelly customer, most of the guys I see in the places are dressed pretty well and the worst smell you get is from the guys that wear too much cologne. My brother worked at a strip club for a couple years and dated a few of the strippers as well. They made good money, had a relatively easy job, and could afford to go to college. All in all, they're doing better than a lot of people I know. No idea why people don't seem to have much problem with women in bikinis at the beach, but feel that you're a slut or whore with no dignity if you show your nipples. What a fucked up country this is.

  38. Re:Uh.... by Meagermanx · · Score: 1

    Chicks always seem to pick on each other. If only they could put aside their petty differences and all join forces (instead of gathering in groups of 4-7), they would have us eating out of their hands. Man, they could unionize and everything...

  39. Re:Uh.... by Meagermanx · · Score: 1

    If we only made fun of people who wanted to have sex with us we would all have a lot of pent up aggression.

  40. Do they have professional standards? by MMaestro · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Granted, the whole sex thing always earns money in the eyes of execs and the masses, but E3 is supposed to be a media only trade show. Joe Average is supposed to be kept out (I say supposedly because we all know people manage to sneak in) and only the 'professional' video game reporters are supposed to get in. Several days after the show ends...

    The mass media mocks and laughs at the video game industry. Booth babes in a 'media only' show? What kind of -professional- reporter fall for that kind of trick? (Bribes? Future blackmail?) Its this kind of attitude that created this news report in the first place. We have video game reporters posing for pictures with no-name, "I don't a damned clue what the hell this company is trying to sell but I'm all dressed up/down" women and the public is supposed to take us seriously?

    IF E3 was an open to the public show, fine I could see this happening. Say its a bunch of overzealous fanboys cosplaying. But companies hiring these obviously uninterested women to stand around looking pretty doesn't do very much towards video game development.

    1. Re:Do they have professional standards? by Deagol · · Score: 1

      Seeing how the video game industry now grosses more than Hollywood screen releases annually, I doubt they give a rat's ass what "mass media" thinks. Hell, given the revenue, they *are* mass media.

  41. Check out this crazy wanker! by antdude · · Score: 5, Funny

    I cannot believe this shot Hahaha!

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    1. Re:Check out this crazy wanker! by MrRoarkeLovesTattoo · · Score: 1

      Now that's funny!

    2. Re:Check out this crazy wanker! by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      That really looks like he's tucking in after stealing something and stuffing it up his shirt.

      Not wanking.

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  42. I don't get it by Supurcell · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How would these women lure nerds over to their booths? Aren't most nerds intimidated by beautiful women?

  43. Did anyone else notice... by geminidomino · · Score: 1


    There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of "shame" going on. Stupid costumes, sure. But essentially, they're drawing crowds of horny /. geeks to their site by posting pictures of hot chicks.

    So much for dignity...

  44. Why Booth Babes? by Zappabrox · · Score: 1

    You can argue all day and night on why the use of scantily clad females is 'beneath' the dignity of our gaming culture and about how we should be above it. However, you all need to remember that this is capitalism, if it makes money, it stays, if it doesn't, it goes...simple. So however you as an individual may feel about the issue, this tactic must be working. P.S. Don't get me wrong, I am just as tired as most of you of having my male instincts tapped to stimulate an interest in a product I probably don't need.

    1. Re:Why Booth Babes? by lumpenprole · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't think it's making any money directly. It's just to get people to hang out there.

      Which, whether or not you think is demeaning to the woman, is actually pretty demeaning to the guys there. See, what they're implying is that all the people at E3 are so desperate for female attention that they'll ignore the obvious fact that the BB doesn't play games, or hang out with nerds, or even like them, in order to have their picture taken with her.

      Although, judging by some of the responses on this thread....

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  45. Re:Sacred and private? Funny! by mzs · · Score: 2, Interesting
    And how many strippers stay in it for longer than a month without resorting to cocaine to keep doing the job?

    Oh let's see how about the one I know that is doing it as a way of supporting herself through college. She's the one that was in foster care most of her life and did not have a mom's basement to crawl-out of and daddy to foot the bills. And guess what I have never seen her without her clothes on so it is not like it was a story she told me to hustle me for cash. Nope she is my wife's friend.

    Or how about this one, another stripper working with the previous one. She is a single mom and her toddler has a dead beat dad. Dancing two nights a week for a basically guaranteed $4K (mostly tax free) a month is a great gig. Just drop the kid off at grandma's to work and tan.

    It's about finding just how much you can embarass a girl with a dollar.

    You are VERY screwed-up, completely warped :( You think you are embarrassing them? I have news for you crap for brains, they are hustling you for your money, you are the mark, they are in complete control of you.

    BTW the smelly guys are a real problem. That and the bruises and scratches from bumping into stuff while dancing are the biggest complaints according to my wife's friend :)

  46. Re:Uh.... by Alzheimers · · Score: 1

    Dude, chicks are like Voltron.

    The more you hook up, the better it gets!

  47. They're not "game babes," they're "booth babes" by brotherscrim · · Score: 1

    I think most people have the wrong impression on why booth babes are there.

    They are not there to imporve a journalist's impression of the game company or the games. They aren't really even there to attract people to the boot in the first place...at least not directly.

    They are there because when the journalists are done looking at the actual content on display, they might stick around for a few minutes to get their picture taken. That leads to a bigger crowd hanging out at your booth. And that is what the vendor wants: a big crowd. A crowd is more likely to attract a journalist than a pretty girl. And even if it isn't: Look! A pretty girl!

    Booth babes aren't there to generate traffic as much as they are there to slow it down.

  48. Women Threatened by oblivionboy · · Score: 1

    It never ceases to amaze me how women get threatened by a good looking competitor. Geek girls for sure the same. It doesn't even matter if they are good looking themselves. I would say this "Shame" is more about their geek girls insecurities than anything else...

  49. Why Is Everyone So Mad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So... there were some attractive women in skimpy clothes at E3, and for some reason this angers all of you? Some of you really need to start taking life a little less seriously. The women chose to do this, and they're getting paid, big whoop. The self righteous "gamegal" site obviously isn't above posting pictures of the women to get more traffic to their site, so I don't see what they have to be bent out of shape over.

    Oh, no, attractive women who are nice to loook at! I'm angry!

  50. Grepina! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Grepina! All I ever want to do is exec her!
    My life has been so indexed and she's the reason!
    Just one return from her and my troubles are long gone
    But I think I'll get along.

  51. Shhh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are giving away the whole secret about gender feminism!

  52. Re:Sacred and private? Funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been to strip clubs in San Fran where there was plenty of touching going on. (Basically a 'private show' was full contact - you can touch her tits, pussy, whatever, and it ended with a hand job)

  53. Re:Sacred and private? Funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Congrats. You have met two strippers who will not admit to giving blowjobs in the parking lot for 50 a throw.

    If you want to test your confidence, why not let your wife spend a full weekend, Friday night through Sunday afternoon with her "stripper" friend. I bet you won't. If you did, you might find that the stripper friend made a little "extra" on the side.

    I wish it wasn't so, but a large number of strippers are turning tricks as well. They all swear they don't when you ask them the first time, but after dance #3 in the VIP lounge, they all seem quite eager to chug a little cock.

    That and the bruises and scratches from bumping into stuff while dancing are the biggest complaints according to my wife's friend

    Ya, that's what happens. I have a bridge to sell you, along with some Florida swamp, and some WMD's.

  54. sexy != sexist by v_1matst · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Having sexy women around to attract people is not sexist and does not objectify women. Plain and simple. If anything I imagine it's empowering and I'm sure they do well financially.

    There's nothing sexist about looking at an attractive woman for any reason.

    1. Re:sexy != sexist by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 1

      There's nothing sexist about looking at an attractive woman for any reason.

      It's sexist to fat chicks. They're the ones who always complain about this.

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    2. Re:sexy != sexist by lumpenprole · · Score: 1

      Oh man, the two of you must do reeeaaall well with the ladies.

      Have you talked to any besides your mothers?

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  55. Booth Babes at Conferences by BlueFashoo · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've seen a lot of people (maybe just a few, but they were highly rated) complaining about how the booth babes shouldn't be at a video game conference. Let me tell you something. My last company, which manufactures controls and calibrators for automated diagnostic machines (Biotech) had booth babes at the American Association of Clinical Chemists. They sold stuff to hospitals and research labs. There are plenty of women in biotech. Biotech is not a male dominated field. My first company out of college had more female chemists than male. The manager of my department told me that he interviews every male that applied for a position, just so he can try and keep a better balance. I would expect that booth babes will always be at E3.

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  56. So who is ashamed here? by arose · · Score: 1

    The show-goers, the execs, the babes or is it just gamegal.com?

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  57. Not really by jgoemat · · Score: 1
    Girls like looking at good-looking naked guys, too. The fact that you believe they don't is why they're capable of controlling you.
    The fact they he isn't good looking is why they're able to control him.
  58. But do any of them weigh less than 300 pounds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But do any of them weigh less than 300 pounds?

  59. Well... by Yosho · · Score: 1

    Yeah, you're probably right. My bad.

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  60. Booth "babes" by G-funk · · Score: 1

    I'm all for pillowfights, don't get me wrong. But why are all these Booth-"babes" not babes, and actually just ugly skinny chicks with big tits? I mean it's not like a promo model with a nice face and who actually works out and has a nice flat stomach is that hard to come by?

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  61. Re:Sacred and private? Funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it depends on where the strip club is. It has been about 15 years since I have been to one, but the ones in my area at the time were arranged in such a way that the women were fairly well protected from unwanted touching. (I am a woman as well, btw, my trips to the strip club were either to provide moral support for friends on "amateur night.") I knew a couple of women who stripped professionally and it worked out well for some of them, not so well for others. One even wound up marrying a man that she met while stripping. Another, on the other hand, would call me up for rides home from the club at 3am because she knew that she would be harrassed by departing customers if she tried to wait for the bus.

  62. Major Difference by nz17 · · Score: 1

    >No idea why people don't seem to have much problem with women in bikinis at the beach, but feel that you're a slut or whore with no dignity if you show your nipples.

    Because the women in strip clubs are exhibiting for money. The women at the beach are wearing swimwear appropriate for effective aquatic movement and cooling.

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    1. Re:Major Difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (found doing metamods)

      Because the women in strip clubs are exhibiting for money. The women at the beach are wearing swimwear appropriate for effective aquatic movement and cooling.

      Yeah, because olympic swimmers wear really skimy bikinis, right? No. One of the current trends is a full body-suit, and plenty of modern materials from Nike etc. have good cooling properties. So you wear a full body suit to the beach, do you?

  63. Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OHH BOOO HOOO HOOOO!!!!

    Bunch of bitches complaining about "hall of shame." I guess they have no problem a woman getting stuffed with two dicks up her pussy, and another one through the mouth, but if girls dress up for geeks, "OHH NOES!! WHAT SHAME!" Whats next, "HALL OF SHAME from Disneyland!! Where woman pretend to be a princess to people who pay money to enter MAGICAL KINGDOM!!"

    Yeah, how horrible that is, those nasty geeks...yet pandering now for their hits to their website! Ohh yeah, do talk on behalf of those girls, because that MUST BE what they are thinking.

    seems more like

    1: GameGal needed some commercial
    2: TacoFag jumped cause he is such a pimp
    3: ???
    4: TacoFag thinks he will score!

    Hey GamerGals, I know you are reading. THAT IS NOT FUCKING NEWS! And get over the fact you are bunch of ugly ass bitches, who have nothing better to do then acting like premadona cunts.

    Cheers you smelly ass pussies.

    Here is some vagisil, use it.
    Hey Taco bitch, stop making it Flamebait/troll, cause you didnt get any.

  64. POLAROIDS??! by ChaoticLimbs · · Score: 1

    These people are geeks, okay? They have a digital camera on their phone, a USB storage pen on their keychain, and a PDA somewhere on their wrist or something.
    They do NOT use POLAROID cameras and pay a buck for every grainy, poorly flash-illuminated picture they take.
    Give them some credit, they may be sweaty and overweight, but they're not troglodytes and they don't use POLAROID cameras anymore.