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iPod to Podcast Sirius Satellite Radio Content?

Kelly McNeill writes "The last time Apple and Sirius met up to discuss the possibilities of integrating satellite radio into the iPod, Steve Jobs turned down the offer. However, new reports show that the two companies are talking again. Kelly McNeill submitted the following editorial to osOpinion/osViews, which suggests the partnership is not to integrate satellite into the iPod but rather to make Sirius's original content for the future version of iTunes that will sport new podcasting capabilities."

84 comments

  1. that'd be cool by jovos · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I'd pay for that.

    1. Re:that'd be cool by jovos · · Score: 1

      look closer...i'm sure you'll find it eventually.

  2. Slashdot to dupe articles? by extra+the+woos · · Score: 1, Funny

    Last time they duped an article it was suggeste that.. ahh fuck it I'm too drunk to think of a goo joke for this one :P

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    1. Re:Slashdot to dupe articles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last time they duped an article it was....

      today, yesterday, and the day before?

  3. dupe? by professorhojo · · Score: 2, Funny
    1. Re:dupe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
      interesting.

      fireyourfuckingboss.com and job-secrets-revealed.com, which is frequently mentioned there, are both run by the same person, even though the former tries to come off as if unassociated with the latter. nice marketing angle you got there, mr. harvestmarketing.com, play off people's anger and frustration instead of being straightforward and honest.

      dupe? yeah, who are you calling a dupe?

    2. Re:dupe? by webslacker · · Score: 1

      "dupe?"

      Are you talking about the story or the editor?

    3. Re:dupe? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1
      A dupe would be if the same story were duplicated, rather than topic.

      For example, if both stories had said that Sirius planned to use podcasting to put their content onto iPods, then that would be a dup.

      Likewise, if both stories had said that future iPods would have Sirius radio receivers, then that too would have been a dup.

      However, a story that says that Sirius is going to build their receivers (their "technology") into iPods is not a dupe of a story that says that Sirius is planning to create big-ass MP3 files you'll download from the iTunes Music Store and load into your iPod.

      How you and 37 million other Slashdot readers missed that is anyone's guess.

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  4. now everybody has.... by PrivateDonut · · Score: 2, Funny

    now everybody has jumped on the Podcast bandwagon. Even Apple!

    1. Re:now everybody has.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was an important job to be done (checking for dupes) and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.

      Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.

      Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.

      Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.

      It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done

    2. Re:now everybody has.... by Adrilla · · Score: 1

      I like this idea of this for talk shows, such as when Stern gets to Sirius instead of having to be up at dawn to listen to the show, I can just wait until I normally wake up or even just listen at work or whenever. What I do wonder is if there will be an extra charge. Would I have to pay iTunes money or would a Sirius subscription be enough for me to get it for free, cause a lot could hinge on that factor. I also wonder if they'll remove commercials from the broadcasts (not all channels are commercial free, just like all cable channels aren't commercial free), but commercial free would be a big plus as well.

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  5. Re:fucking dupe by jovos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The one yesterday was about a Sirius receiver in the iPod...this is about PodCasting the Sirius content following its airing. Pathetic is a big word not to be used lightly.

  6. I'd read this by krymsin01 · · Score: 1

    but I'm waiting for the podcast.

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  7. Let me summarize the "Negotiations" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Sirius: Please, please put us in the iPod!

    Steve Jobs: Nope.

    Sirius: I'll be your friend!

    Steve Jobs: Nope.

    Sirius: If you don't put us in the iPod, I'll sign an exclusive deal with RealPlayer!

    (pause)

    Sirius & Steve Jobs: AHAHAHAHH!

    Sirius: That's a good one. But seriously, how about putting us in the iPod?

    Steve Jobs: Nope.

    -Crow T. Trollbot

    1. Re:Let me summarize the "Negotiations" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The high capacity player* that puts Sirius in it is the one I'm getting.

      *That has an FM tuner, record from FM/Sirius, and a mic and broadcast to FM would be nice, but not necessary. If it plays ogg, double bonus. Why Sirius? NFL. Damn skippy.

    2. Re:Let me summarize the "Negotiations" by cheesy9999 · · Score: 1

      Deja vu.

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    3. Re:Let me summarize the "Negotiations" by cheesy9999 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Bye the way, this "Type the crazy laetter sin this image" thing is fuckin hard when you're drunk So its the wait 2 minutes trhing, i almsot passed out while i was waiting...

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    4. Re:Let me summarize the "Negotiations" by InsideTheAsylum · · Score: 1

      Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooa

    5. Re:Let me summarize the "Negotiations" by d474 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I get your subtle point: It's your right to dupe a joke if Slashdot dupes an article within 72 hours. Why not!?

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  8. heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    From that summary:

    "We've covered this before"

    Patiently awaiting the day the slashdot front page eats itself...

  9. Does that have any relationa at all... by TheCreeep · · Score: 0

    ...with the Sirius Cybernetics Corp.? If so, get ready for some radio with "personality"! Share and enjoy!

  10. Re:fucking dupe by Bananatree3 · · Score: 2, Informative

    This may seem like a dupe, but it ain't. Similar, but not a clone.

  11. Re:History repeats itself... again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In any event, any time you can blast massive amounts of data from space to public handheld devices, I think the potential uses go way beyond music...

    I, for one, welcome our propaganda-podcasting alien overlords

  12. strange by AussieVamp2 · · Score: 0

    dogs generally don't like Apples?

  13. Thank god by xombo · · Score: 1

    Now they wont' be locked into service-specific hardware implementations and can have all the load put on the service provider. They've turned a blow-hard "business-partner" with grandios hardware constraints into a simple iTunes content provider and calmed a storm before it ever began.

  14. I heard about this place called 'outdoors' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    It's supposed to be pretty cool.

  15. timeshifting! by admactanium · · Score: 5, Funny

    now you can even timeshift slashdot articles. if you didn't have a chance to catch the original, no need to worry!

  16. Nerd Drunk!!?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a nerd drunk!
    wow!

  17. Re:Punnish Slashdot for not reading own stories by Adrilla · · Score: 1

    Ok, you go ahead first, we'll meet you there.

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  18. Re:Punnish Slashdot for not reading own stories by DrJimbo · · Score: 1
    I like your current idea of misspelling words in the subject line of replies to duped articles.

    That punishes everyone who reads the dupe.

    But perhaps I am overreacting and you were merely feeling playful and punnish.

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  19. Hoo, Hoo, I invented dupes, Robin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Tell 'em, Fred.

    1. Re:Hoo, Hoo, I invented dupes, Robin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tie a bandana around your ipod and girls will take their tops off. Hoo, hoo!

    2. Re:Hoo, Hoo, I invented dupes, Robin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      O & A Party Rock

      here ya go

  20. Makes sense by ElGanzoLoco · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This makes sense, after all, Apple wants you to be able to listen to your iPod wherever you are, including subways, trains, planes, moms' basements, etc, where I don't think Sirius goes.
    They also want people to keep going on the music store homepage, where podcasts will probably be.

    Is Sirius available out of the US right now? (genuine question)

    If not, then this would give them the opportunity to go worldwide...

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    1. Re:Makes sense by Lucractius · · Score: 1

      Nicely Said, If i had modpoints id giva ya one

      Apple is definatly using this to further leverage their iPod as not just a media player. But a genuine personal nessecity.

      And for the love of god can the entire splay of AC posts up there get modded down to a nice -1 so i dont have to see them.

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    2. Re:Makes sense by Bastian · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but incorporating a Sirius reciever and a decent antenna into an iPod would probably result in a massive beast compared to Apple's current line. Just look at the size of XM and Sirius's current "handheld" offerings.

      Also, you don't just have to be underground or inside a large Faraday cage such as your average large office building or shopping mall to lose your Sirius signal. Most people have to mount their Sirius antenna outside in a clear area because the signal generally doesn't even get through your house's roof, trees, etc.

      Besides, what I really want is some sort of Tivo for my Sirius account; a great many shows that I enjoy aren't on at convenient times for me, and I would love to be able to record ones that I'm going to miss.

      As to your question, if Sirius is available outside the US, it's probably only in Canada. I'm pretty sure Sirius's sattelites sit somewhere above the northern Midwest (around about Minnesota or Wisconsin, I think), and while you might be able to get decent reception in northern Mexico, I doubt that you would get anything outside of North America.

    3. Re:Makes sense by tbechtx · · Score: 1

      It would seem to me in this burgeoning digital on the go age that any device that would combine more than one of these offerings would be explosively popular. If, say, the iPod were to incorporate a sat radio receiver into it, it seems like that would be a very good marriage for the device. Now some say that there would be a subscription conflict. That people would opt for the sat radio content (since listening to it is paid for by the subscription fee) over the bought music files from iTunes. But, I think it would be a much more complimentary arrangement. I mean radios and cd players in cars have been a good marriage for years. Sometimes people want to just kick back and let someone else play the music and maybe hear a hot new tune they want to buy! Other times they want to play that hot new tune they just bought over and over. So I see the marriage of the most popular digital music player and the fastest growing sat radio company as a win win. The real stickler is how much of each others pies do the two parties get?

  21. Triple threat death match! by Senor_Programmer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sirius representing all internet radio
    Apple representing all podcast sites
    RIAA representing The MAN

    Radio programming is usually block or random format.
    A sirius channel that plays randon selections from a particular genre is a hybrid afforded by owning many channels. genre is blocked, selections are random.

    The killer podcast site for Apple would allow users to select.
    1)programs such as news or 'shows' from block formatted stations, shifted to desired positions in the users ipod.
    2)plays in weighted ratios from genre blocked channels.

    For example.

    My ideal radio station might be a mix of raggae, 60's rock, 70's rock, punk, classical, and fresh indie music with news at noon. With the podcast site removing the complexity of time shifting and selection I can be my own radio program director.
    Say I want my music in ratio 3:2:5:1:3:1 from the list above. Furthermore I might prefer nterleaved to linear play.
    It's easy to program if the site is set up as programming grids. For sirius the grid might have one axis labeled channel and one labeled genre. I might first select the genres and the assign ratios. For the block content it's 3-D grid. Source(station), day of week, time with block programs identifier in the selecion box. I might pick a block of bluegrass music topical to trains from WRFG in Atlanta (if the program director has figured out how to interface his station to apples site).

    The above is not detail. I've actually bee working on this project for some time, sans Apple and Sirius and will be HAPPY for them to beat it out in court with RIAA rather than lil-ole-me...

    1. Re:Triple threat death match! by connorbd · · Score: 1

      Uh... Shoutcast. Look into it.

      Anyway, Sirius already has an eclectic channel. Might not be exactly what you want, but Disorder is pretty mixed up.

  22. Third person by bwalling · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Apparently, Kelly McNeill talks about Kelly McNeill in the third person. Kelly McNeill writes "...Kelly McNeill submitted the following editorial to osOpinion/osViews..."

  23. Re:Jag är bajsnodig. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jag hoppas du skiter på dig.

  24. Re:Jag är bajsnodig. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mm, jag är också bajsnödig så in i helvete.

  25. Makes sense by pv2b · · Score: 1

    This makes a lot more sense than a satellite receiver in an iPod. A *lot* more sense.

  26. Mod Parent High by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mod parent up.

    He speaks from the heart.

    Pass the bonG!!

  27. That brings to mind this quote... by NeoBeans · · Score: 1

    "Begun, the clone wars have..." -- Yoda :-) (God, I'm such a nerd. But then again, this is /. )

  28. Dupe...yes. But it's a 2-for-1 Dupe! by CptTripps · · Score: 1

    At least they are starting to consolidate the dupes. We had Podcast and Sirius on two different articles. It's like a mini Slashback!

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  29. No. by Udo+Schmitz · · Score: 2, Insightful
    new reports show that the two companies are talking again

    No. Only because that Karmazin guy ponied up $3,495 for a ticket to "D: All things digital" where he stalked Steve and pestered him about his sattelite stuff, that doesn't mean "two companies are talking".

  30. Zonk rocks by downsize · · Score: 1

    all I know, is if I ever get one of my submissions accepted here, you better believe I am going to re-submit it when Zonk's handling the queue :-P

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  31. In Other News... by TheKidWho · · Score: 1

    Slashdot to be getting it's own Siruis radio station, motto is "All your favorite dupes 24/7!"

  32. but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yah but how much - by the time you get a bit of content, you may as well pay the sub fee for sat.

  33. This all make sence! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iPod with its UNIX underpinnings is the perfect platform for this.

  34. Re:Punnish Slashdot for not reading own stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > I like your current idea of misspelling words in
    > the subject line of replies to duped articles

    D'oh! Well, I guess I'll just have to wait till the next time this is duped and post again with the wright spelling.

  35. Re:Punnish Slashdot for not reading own stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think I found your keys.

  36. I can't wait to see by dourk · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    the ad spots where Stern girls are deep-throating iPod Shuffles.

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    1. Re:I can't wait to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really off-topic... Stern is about to go to Sirius... and he HAS been promoting iPods on his show for several years now. Or does anything Howard Stern get modded down by the right wing around here?

  37. Re:Apparently the Mods Don't Read Slashdot Either by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't believe the dopes that get mod points, while I haven't gotten them in over 3 years!

    Now you know why.... Apparently the Mods Don't Read Slashdot Either (Score:0, Offtopic)

  38. Inside the board meetings by ravenspear · · Score: 1

    An anonymous informant writes "The last time CmdrTaco and CowboyNeal met up to discuss the possibilities of reducing dupes on the geek news site Slashdot, Rob turned down the offer. However, new reports show that the two parties are talking again. The informant submitted a document which suggests that given the nature of the increasing problem of duplicate stories, some execs at OSTG feel that something must be done. Several major news outlets have indicated plans to supply their original content for the future version of Slashdot that will sport non-dupe capabilities."

  39. Not available outside of the US by EvilStein · · Score: 1

    Sirius isn't, anyway. I've heard rumours of Canadian & Mexican border towns being able to pick it up, but that's not really a surprise.

    1. Re:Not available outside of the US by Reaperducer · · Score: 3, Informative

      Doesn't have to be near the border. I know people several hundred miles north of the U.S. border in Manitoba who use Sirius. They bought it in the states. I assume they're using a credit card with an American billing address to pay for it. Or maybe not.

      Because of the figure-eight flight path of the Sirius satellites, it should be theoretically possible to pick up the signal anywhere from the north pole down to Brazil. YMMV.

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    2. Re:Not available outside of the US by mrgreen4242 · · Score: 1
      Because of the figure-eight flight path of the Sirius satellites, it should be theoretically possible to pick up the signal anywhere from the north pole down to Brazil. YMMV.

      That's not entirely true. The satellites power down on the edges of their orbits in order to recharge. So, event though they are physically over all of that area, they aren't necessarily broadcasting. They DO work pretty far outside of the states though. The reception in Cuba is pretty good according to some of my military buddies who were stationed in GTMO.

  40. According to *this* article... by R.Mo_Robert · · Score: 1

    Odd. According to this article on BetaNews, Apple isn't really interested: Apple Not Serious About Sirius

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    1. Re:According to *this* article... by squiggleslash · · Score: 1
      Why does that matter? Betanews is talking about a "hybrid product" - an iPod with a Sirius receiver, presumably.

      That's not even close to what this article is about.

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  41. Re:Apparently the Mods Don't Read Slashdot Either by Arctic+Fox · · Score: 1

    You must read /. too much, or waaay too little.
    I get mod points (have them now in fact) what I think is pretty frequently.

    A couple of times a day, I'll visit and view a few articles... maybe a moderate use?

  42. Original Content??? by tlynch5 · · Score: 1

    Is there really enough original content on sirius for this to be of interest to anyone?

    1. Re:Original Content??? by faedle · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes.

      Many of Sirius' non-music oriented channels (like their comedy feeds) carry a high percentage of original content. Raw Dog # 147's "The Wiseguy Show", for example, has a pretty loyal following. "Four Quotas", also on # 147, is still kind-of a work in progress, but holds promise. And, Howard Stern's upcoming Sirius show should also develop nicely for the service.

      This is a good move by Sirius. They spent a ton of money on programming (and less money on the technology and marketing, unlike XM), and it might actually start paying dividends if they can make a market on iTunes.

  43. Sirius needs Apple by lawpoop · · Score: 1
    Siruis programming will be podcasted whether they like it or not. Someone will rip sirius content and post it to filesharing sites, and then it will find its way onto a podcasting network.

    Sirius can turn this into a money-making equation if the cost of receiving podcasted content wins out over the delay of waiting for pirated Sirius material on the internet.

    I think Sirius can do this. It shouldn't cost too much more than having an iPod and a Sirius subscription at the same time. But, Apple has the upper hand in these negotiations.

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  44. I currently do this.. by chazzzzy · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... it's called RadioShark.. $75, records Howrd Stern every morning, dumps it to my iPod and I listen to it throughout the rest of the day.

    I'm actually NOT loking forward to Howard moving to Sirius, unless they get it working on there as well.

  45. iSirius!! Joo doopy too faaaast.... by d474 · · Score: 1

    If you must dupe, pleeeeeeeez wait long enough for it to fall out of my short-term memory.

    Muchos Gracias.

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  46. What is podcasting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Okay, maybe I'm a little bit behind the curve, but what is podcasting anydangway?

  47. Adam Curry has been talking with Steve Jobs by swissfondue · · Score: 1

    Just a snippet which could help substantiate the rumours. Adam Curry, who has launched podshow.com with a podcasting channel on Sirius, has been talking to Steve Jobs prior to the "All Things Digital conference". Steve wanted to ensure "Apple was doing the right thing".

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  48. 3rd time for this article! by CptTripps · · Score: 1

    A dupe now and then is fine, but this is the 3rd time /. has posted this!

    Come on gang...get with the program.

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  49. A Good Marriage by tbechtx · · Score: 1

    It would seem to me in this burgeoning digital on the go age that any device that would combine more than one of these offerings would be explosively popular. If, say, the iPod were to incorporate a sat radio receiver into it, it seems like that would be a very good marriage for the device. Now some say that there would be a subscription conflict. That people would opt for the sat radio content (since listening to it is paid for by the subscription fee) over the bought music files from iTunes. But, I think it would be a much more complimentary arrangement. I mean radios and cd players in cars have been a good marriage for years. Sometimes people want to just kick back and let someone else play the music and maybe hear a hot new tune they want to buy! Other times they want to play that hot new tune they just bought over and over. So I see the marriage of the most popular digital music player and the fastest growing sat radio company as a win win. The real stickler is how much of each others pies do the two parties get?