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Spielberg & Lucas Approve Indy 4 Script
Anonymous Coward writes "According to an article on ComingSoon.net, the script for the fourth Indiana Jones movie is moving forward. Lucas and Spielberg have agreed on the writing, with only Harrison Ford still required to sign off on the project before it can go into pre-production. Ford has yet to read the script."
Of the script? Is Ford really that able to make or break the script once he's agreed to do the project? Or, has he, essentially, not yet even agreed? With the buzz this has, isn't he more or less already beholden to do it?
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I don't have any blind loyalty to Harrison Ford as Indy. River Phoenix played Indy well in the TV series. A scrawl of blocky pixels played Indy well in the LucasArts games.
Indiana Jones is a character, and played well, can be played by anyone.
Though he hasn't been around lately, the range of an actor like Jim Carrey can bring new life to this old character. Wit, intelligence, and a talking buttcrack are things that typify Indy. With the possible exceptions of Morgan Freeman and Harrison Ford himself (who are both way past their prime in terms of physicality), Carrey would be an awesome choice to play this legendary character.
But for everyone who says Harrison Ford is too old...why not just make Indiana Jones older?
Set the movie in the late 1950's and you are good to go. *shrugs*
when did /. become a movie news/gossip/rumor site? really, if i wanted to know about trash like that, i'd watch entertainment tonight.
How many of those did George Lucas write?
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So is it based on the Fate of Atlantis?
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Only Starwars from my list... and only Phantom Menace from your post.
he had nothing to do with A.I. which you put in the parent so I don't quite see what you're getting at.
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"... but why the need for anything after Osment dies at the bottom of the ocean?"
That was the best part of the movie!! Sadly, in a lot of ways, it was a little too subtle. (note: I don't blame the movie viewers for that, I think they made some questionable decisions at that part of the movie.)
David had a really nasty programming problem. He was hard-wired to 'love' one woman, his mom. Unfortunately, this program couldn't have been changed. David could, for all practical purposes, live forever, but his mother could not. After he was frozen underwater, he was found by the robots of the day. They survived, the human race didn't. When they found him, they interfaced with him, and worked out his program. (Thus evidenced by the 'touching scene' where his memories were being played back on their faces.)
As robots, it's easy to imagine they were quite sympathetic to David. He had a program that couldn't be fulfilled. Out of compassion, they found a creative way to fulfill his program. They gave him a bs story about bringing his mother back for only one day. (If you're curious what I mean about BS, consider that she was 'brought back', had all kinds of love for David, but never once asked where her husband or other child were. She was too good to be true. Fortunately, David was naieve.) David understood the one-day rule. So he spent the day with her and had the fun that he could. He knew when she'd fade away. When it was time for bed, he fell asleep before she did. If he were to wake up, he'd discover she was gone and his program would be fucked. So, instead, he fell asleep never to awaken. He dreamt, presumably of her.
Great solution to a really tough problem. I have a great affection for this movie, mainly because I really think most movies would have ended with him 'dying' under the water instead of trying to do something more meaningful. Very satisfying.
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...can't be seriously proposing Jim Carrey as Indy, right?
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It was a great movie, except that everything after the "blue fairy" was stupid. I don't care how they justified it, the whole aliens (which looked dumb) thing was just lame.
No, you don't need sex in an Indiana Jones movie. I am not a prude by any means. I like sex; I just need sex in a graveyard, an elevator, and an orgy to fill my slut bingo card. That being said, explicit sex in the indy movies would ruin the mood of the film. They're a throwback, a goofy adventure movie like was done in the 30s. Yes, we know the hero gets the girl and they have hot kinky monkey sex, but we don't need to see it. Not every movie needs to have the jizzmopper on standby, y'know.
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Seriously.
Why don't you think they are going to do the original three Star Wars movies again?
Because we already have too many preconceptions and expectations as to the characters' appearances, mannerisms, etc.
I seriously think I would need a LOT of therapy if they make Indy a different actor. I love James Bond and all, but that actor swapping really tripeed me out.
And Jim Carrey? Dude. DOOOODE. I hope you were kidding. (Everyone knows that Indiana Jones has a butt-chin. P-sha!)
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Well, the difference is that you clearly like Disney-endings while most people seem to agree that a tragic ending would have been more powerful and enjoyable. I so regretted that the film didn't end with the boy/robot whistfully observing the blue fairy.
I think there would have been something more powerful in that. An unreal boy with "real" feelings, lost for eternity in his expectations for a miracle or some sort of redemption from an unreal fairy.
After watching that, the only thing I could think of was that I'd wished Spielberg had dropped dead and Kubrick had stayed around to finish that.
That is the fear. However, the difference between an Indy movie and the SW Prequels is that Lucas wouldn't be directing.
In the prequels, Lucas surrounded himself with yes men who were too grateful to be associated with the "legend" to talk back to him.
Spielberg is a true contemporary of Lucas' and has no reason to pull punches. He would not let the Indy franchise go down with bad dialogue in order to save Lucas' ego.
Spielberg doesn't direct movies the way Richard Marquand did in ROTJ. He would not just be a puppet for Lucas. He would be able to make it work. He would let Lucas do what he's good at, which is come up with good action choreography, and fill in the rest.
According to Wikipedia, Indiana Jones is the combination of Spielberg's desire for a James Bond type movie with Lucas' love of the serialized "Republic" adventures of his childhood. Lucas even suggested the name "Jones" when Spielberg objected to the original name, a bland sounding "Indiana Smith".
In the production of the past Indiana Jones series, if memory serves, Lucas produced and Spielberg directed. So, if Lucas was going to fuck up the franchise he would have done so by now. I really wish they would explore an Atlantis theme along the lines of the "Fate of Atlantis" PC game, which I thoroughly enjoyed.
I believe that refers to the Grail (the cup) itself. You are not able to take the Grail past the seal and just use any water, and make the world immortal. It's a little confusing, but what I understood was that Jones was immortal at the end of the movie, and so was his father.
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and later: Perhaps I'm the only one wondering how you can make judgements about movies you haven't seen? Besides, of all the criticisms you could make, you've chosen the silliest: costumes. Watch the prequels again. The costumes are consistent. Perhaps you're referring to Padme/Amidala's penchant for changing outfits frequently in the Phantom Menace (that was part of her character as Queen of Naboo), but otherwise I have no idea what you might mean by this criticism. Character costumes were consistent within a movie, and while they did change across movies (as they did in the original trilogy, in case you didn't notice), they still stayed consistent within a character's style.As for consistency in costume and technology between the prequels and the original trilogy, perhaps you should finish watching the last two films in the prequel trilogy before making that claim. You can easily see how the clone trooper armor and vehicles evolved into the costumes and technology of the empire in the original trilogy. Remember, there's ~20 years between episode 3 and episode 4, and there were ~10 years between episode 1 and episode 2 -- look back to technology (particularly computers and cars) and clothing from the 70s and 80s compared to today and draw your own conclusion about how quickly technology and fashion can change. For example, if you would've bothered to watch Episode 3 you'd have seen, among other things, an early Correllian gunship (the rebel cruiser at the beginning of episode 4), an early precursor to the X-wing starfighters from 4-6, and the change in republic officer uniform to what you'll later see as the imperial officer uniform in 4/5/6.
I won't claim that the prequel trilogy was good. The acting was horrible across all three movies (episode 3 was by far the best, but "best" is very relative here), and Lucas made a lot of odd changes (midichlorians?) to core story items. I'm simply saying that you might want to finish watching episodes 2 and 3 before you make these kinds of claims.
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Are you kidding? The ending was perfect. Him watching the blue fairy would have been tragic, sure, but it wouldn't be a lasting ending.
The ending we got was bittersweet...it can't be called a Disney-ending because it's not a happily ever after ending. Humanity is dead, and his mother (we're told) can basically live for a day before she dies forever, too. One day isn't a whole lot of time.
Can you imagine being transported back to the golden years of your life...and then being told you only had a day to spend in them? Suddenly, every minute just sitting in front of a TV, riding in a car, a bus, waiting for something to happen would be intolerable. The thing about happy times is that you never really expect them to end...because if you did, they wouldn't be happy at all.
Perhaps I'm mis-remembering, or maybe we just have different opinions, but personally I thought that the second Indiana Jones movie wasn't anywhere near the standard of the other two.
Raiders was a lot of fun, with both the script and the acting. It also had several very strong characters, including Marion Ravenwood, who's possibly one of the best female characters to have come out of a 1980's Hollywood movie.
In the Temple of Doom, this was all traded in for what seemed to be the boring stereotypical mid-80's movie formula at the time: a whinging helpless city girl being dragged along on an adventure, repeatedly made to look stupid by both Indy and an irritating 10-year old boy. The plot and the acting were both below standard.
I thought that Last Crusade was back to the original standard, though.
Indianna Jones is a really cool movie trilogy, and to be honest it's one of my favourites. I don't think you can look at it, though, and claim that it was classic and beautiful. I might go as far as saying that about two of the movies, but it severely trailed off in the middle. Maybe Lucas just got lucky with the original Star Wars movies.
I'm going to be honest, but I don't consider Harrison Ford an actor at all. A critic somewhere referred to him as a "reassuring presence," which I think sums him up perfectly. This isn't a criticism of Harrison Ford, mind you. Likewise, I don't consider Arnold Schwarzenegger or Clint Eastwood "actors," but rather people who are merchandizable because we like their personalities. Yes, I've seen all, or nearly all, of each of their movies. But I haven't seen any of them "act" yet.
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You do know the robots were torturing him right?
We can bring someone back for one day.... I call bullshit on robot over lords.
Honestly, they just tossed a bot together and molded her appearance from DNA. The next step is fairly simple as they merely have to toss them in a room and set him up for the fall. Terribly evil and sad movie.
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How about casting Ford on the side of the Chinese and set it in Vietnam? There were bigger things happening in the Sixties than Tibet.