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Spring into HTML and CSS
Who's it for?
This seems a very clearly targeted book. It's directed towards professionals that need to work with websites, but do not necessarily have a software development background.
The Good StuffThe approach of the book reflects the targeted audience very well. The book starts by introducing a basic HTML page and then building upon it by showing how to add text and graphic content. The next couple of chapters then show a few more advanced subjects like forms and tables. The second half of the book then moves into explaining CSS, starting with some of the basic ground rules and then moving into applying colours, styles and borders to the HTML document. The last chapter is a cookbook of classic layouts, explained clearly and with code.
Even though I'm not a typical member of the intended audience, I found the organisation of the book very well thought-out and with a good sense of flow. Each chapter builds on the preceding one, with a small set of examples that are built up through the course of the book. Each chapter is broken into one or two page "chunks," as the book itself describes them. These chunks are small discrete explanations of aspects that the chapter covers. For example, in the chapter on images, the chunks cover topics like adding alternative text to an image, specifying its height and width and using an image in a hyperlink.
For me, the combination of the chunk organisation and Molly's writing makes the book. The chunked approach fits the needs of both learning a new subject without being overwhelmed and those that want more of a reference capability. This book is not written to be a reference work, but with everything being so well partitioned, it comes close enough to meet my need for a good reference work as well. Some authors tell you about their subject, but Molly really does seem to explain it to you. A subtle difference, but one that gives this book the edge.
As a book that aims to be practical, the examples were very well chosen. There are plenty of pieces of example markup and images of the resulting rendering. The markup is nicely laid out and the images are large enough to show the effect, but not so large as to interrupt the flow of the explanation. The other nice thing about the examples, especially in the CSS section of the book, is that the examples are consistent. The same portion of text, from The Black Cat by Edgar Allen Poe, is used throughout. I found that this helped clearly show the difference between the effects being taught. The text stayed the same, only the layout changed with the new style being shown. Very effective.
Groan!
My first inclination when I saw that the book was part of a new series called "Spring into ..." was to groan and wonder when they were planning to fire the marketing non-genius that dreamt up such a bad title! Thankfully the contents more than make up for the corny name. The only other thing that bugged me was the inclusion of two appendixes with HTML and CSS reference information in them. The references are annotated very well with practical considerations, so I'm only going to knock off half a point from what would otherwise have been a perfect ten.
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thought this was another apple story...
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Thanks Bill for that stunning report, We will return to our scheduled programming after these commercial announcements.
Maybe the Slashdot editors should take some advice here.
I own itburns.net. What should I put there?
Well from your review it seems that its for people who want to learn to 'program' html.
Just knowing HTML and CSS does not result in web pages that are easy to use and accessible. That is something that can't be learned directly from a book. It takes a certain intuition to be able to design web pages that truly perform.
Anyways, does this book cover XHTML at all? And what about CSS 2.0? I get the feeling from this review that this book is somewhat outdated, and does not cover such topics. I hope I am wrong in such assumptions.
Cyric Zndovzny at your service.
I reccommend http://www.zeldman.com/ for all your web-standards reading. He's even re-worked Slashdot using current web standards.
Thank goodness someone wrote a book about HTML and CSS development. There aren't enough free sites on the internet to teach you this stuff already.
/. too. Most of the readers here are probably novice developers with only basic knowledge of HTML if any at all.
The best place to advertise this is probably
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Designing with Web Standards by Jeffrey Zeldman. By far the most useful and informative book on the subject that I've seen. A good web designer needs to know the "why", not just the "how".
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Isn't the title (an the cover graphic) a bit derivative of http://diveintomark.org/, and his corpus of Dive Into books and articles?
The only other thing that bugged me was the inclusion of two appendixes with HTML and CSS reference information in them. The references are annotated very well with practical considerations, so I'm only going to knock off half a point from what would otherwise have been a perfect ten.
Wait, why is including reference material a negative? Isn't that an advantage to the user, all relevant information collected in one place?
Based on the review, it sounds like this covers topics so basic; one would be better served by a resource such as w3schools, or something along those lines. I recommend the Zen of CSS Design, which I found to be a great read for those who have gotten the basics down.
I guess Im not a regular book reviewer, because the book I thought I was getting ended up being a bomb.
I think what he actually meant was separating _content_ and design. Structure is generally part of the design (CSS) rather than the content (HTML).
you content, however, should be semantically structured using valid markup and styled(designed) using CSS. he meant what he meant.
You really do have to stop giving such
great reviews just because she likes you
so much - people will talk...
and you have no idea about the basics of design.. just like the author of the book.. ugh.. that web page hidious.. the only thing worst is a thai page with bad midi in the background..
(begin sarcasm)
Wow, it's about time someone wrote a book about HTML and CSS. I went to the Barnes and Noble and couldn't find a single one on the subject. Are they trying to keep this stuff a secret?
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This seems a very clearly targeted book. It's directed towards professionals that need to work with websites, but do not necessarily have a software development background. And how is this supposed to be "clearly targeted"?
I don't review all such books that I receive, but this one, Spring Into HTML and CSS by Molly E. Holzschlag, stood out from the crowd and I felt that I should share my thoughts on it with you.
Why, was the bookmark they included a check?
The problem with big words like "serendipitous" is that if you use them without knowing what they mean, you just sound foolish. Serendipity refers to making fortunate discoveries by accident; finding a package in your mailbox is not serendipitous - that's precisely where you'd expect to find such a package.
to Powell's.
Hey, when you are done with the book, how about you send it on to someone who needs it?
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Usually I dislike details about a reviewer being included in a review, but:
The reviewer doesn't say what his background is, so it's hard to judge his claim not to be a typical member of the intended audience. Claiming it without some explanation makes me wonder what he means, and even why I should read on.
Perhaps he found the organization of the book well thought out because he's atypical?
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I can dependency-inject my CSS files? Finally!
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you insensitive clod.
What the heck does serendipitous mean? Anyone?
One of the perks of regular book reviewing is that, periodically, you'll check your mail box and discover a book waiting for you. A serendipitous surprise!
Okay, so we start with a "hey, look how cool I am receiving free books in the mail."
I don't review all such books that I receive, but this one, Spring Into HTML and CSS by Molly E. Holzschlag, stood out from the crowd and I felt that I should share my thoughts on it with you.
And continue with "if I don't review them all, I'm seen as objective, but still get to keep all the books".
Anyway thanks for sharing "your thoughts" about the book, but, erm, that's not really what a proper review is about.
The author is not qualified to review this book, especially not for a savvy audience like that of Slashdot. A 'don't worry I'm only a beginner too' review (check his blog) can seem very comforting and empathic, but Simon Chappell clearly cannot even speculate on the completeness of this work, nor it's adherence to, and promotion of, best practices.
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Index dot HTML
Just the facts for me...
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No, structure is defined in the HTML (or XHTML). CSS defines how you present that structure (the design).
Content is independent of both structure and design.
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Amazing site, this guy has done some painstaking cross-browser testing for JavaScript, CSS and HTML and come back with compatibility tables and recommendations for everything from the basic box model (how browsers managed to fuck this up i don't know) to robust JavaScript that doesn't use crappy "if browser equals X" statements. Working with HTML/CSS and JS is highly painful if your project specifies that it must look _good_ in all browsers, so any tricks you can learn will save your life.
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Building Accessible Websites by Joe Clark. By far the most insightful and interestnig book on the subject that I've seen. A great designer needs to keep all the "who" in mind - not just the "why" or "how".
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Zelldman writes EVERYTHING ever about web standards. I propose we disband the W3C and replace it with the ZC, baby!
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Molly is an amazing writer, and she really knows web design. When I got busy and couldn't update my book "Special Edition: Using HTML 4", Molly took it over and reworked it from the ground up into a much better book. And she's not only a great web designer and writer, she's a fantastic human being. Check out her site at http://www.molly.com/
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Holy let-down Batman! I accually thought that David Chappell commented.
.."I'm Rick James, bitch!" I would also like to include that reviews of 'beginners' type books on slashdot can really be helpful to those of us who haven't been able to geek out in particular areas of tech. I'll pick it up.
Clearly the universe works in mysterious ways.
What's more, mysteriously the universe works in clear ways.
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disgusting.
Word meaning does not have to be straight-forward and correct for it to make sense in a sentence. Most of humor is using language or meaning in a way that is not quite correct. (sarcasm, irony, etc.)
For example, if I say "you have a good face for radio", the humor is that the real meaning of the sentence is not the same as the straightforward meaning.
It was funny. Laugh.
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Amazon.com confirms it. Who knew?
What if it's an unexpected package? From an estate attorney? That could easily be a serendipitous event.
If an estate attorney is sending you an unexpected package and all that's in it is a book on CSS, I'd hardly call that serendipitous.
... I thought it was something to do with the Spring framework. It's not.
Not too shabby. What I wonder, is there anywhere a good reference card for HTML in 1-4 pages? And throw one in for CSS while you're at it. To print out, and keep around for reference? Or is modern HTML too large for that? (Last time I really did HTML, I coded HTML 2.0 in Notepad.)
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screaming at the top of their lungs over IE's non-conformance to the CSS standards. Though CSS is not perfect, the separation of structure and style is the right thing. It is nearly criminal the number of hacks required to get around IE's non-conformity.