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derek_farn writes "It looks like us lucky Brits will be getting a Dr Who christmas special, plus a third series has been commissioned. Those of you who get their news from the BBC web site will know that the current Dr Who, Christopher Eccleston, left after the first series and was replaced by the actor who recently played Casanova in a mini-series (not quite the same as the women wearing lycra in Star Trek, but we Brits are a bit more reserved)."

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  1. Rose by EnderWigginsXenocide · · Score: 4, Informative

    Rose (played by Billie Piper) will also stay on for the entire second season, despite rumors that said otherwise.

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    1. Re:Rose by Trigun · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's all I need to know to keep watching.

      Although, I thought Chris Eccleston was brilliant and this new guy has some big shoes to fill.

    2. Re:Rose by Trigun · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Is Jack a permanent member of the Tardis crew? I was hoping he'd just be a recurring character, showing up every other/third episode. Putting too many people in the Tardis, no matter how big it is on the inside, cramps the whole style.

    3. Re:Rose by VdG · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I gather it was decided that they needed someone to shoot the bad guys. Neither The Doctor nor Rose do. That's probably why Jack has an American accent.

    4. Re:Rose by SquadBoy · · Score: 2, Informative

      I know that he will be at least a recurring character. Not sure how often he'll be around. If you can, get the last Confidential where they talk about why they have Jack around. Very interesting stuff.

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    5. Re:Rose by Trigun · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wikipedia states twelve:

      It was established in The Deadly Assassin that a Time Lord can regenerate twelve times before permanently dying, though as with most such "rules" there were occasionally exceptions. For more on this see: Time Lord.

    6. Re:Rose by rikkards · · Score: 2, Informative

      But it isn't something new. During the Tom Baker years there were several times when there were 3 of them. Genesis of the daleks and Ark in Space come to mind. I think you can see the whole ark of time if you include k9 as a third entity.

    7. Re:Rose by Trigun · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know, but the chemistry that they have generated between the Doctor and Rose is somewhat hampered by adding a third persistent character in the mix. I prefer the current set-up rather than the Doctor and his rag-tag bunch of time-misfits trapsing about the continuum. I'd hate to see Rose dissappear and the series turn into the Voyagers

    8. Re:Rose by belroth · · Score: 2, Informative
      That was Sarah and Harry - later on there were three companions for a while - Nyssa, Tegan and Adric, in fact for the Hartnell/Troughton years there were always 2 or more companions iirc, starting with Susan, Ian and Barbara...

      Not that I'm a Who geek, of course - now can I be bothered to go through all the episodes for the first seven incarnations and calculate the average number of companions - and is that per episode or per story? Er, probably not.

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  2. Third series? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    How is this the third series? It's more like the twelfth.

    1. Re:Third series? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      or 29th...

    2. Re:Third series? by RonnyJ · · Score: 3, Interesting
      This new 'first' series is considered by some to be the 27th series of Doctor Who, and by others to be the first series of a new production (although I'm not sure on the exact reasoning behind either viewpoint). This new 'third' series will therefore be considered the 29th series by some.

      Also, in case any Americans are reading this and are slightly confused, we tend to use the word 'series' instead of 'season'.

  3. I just want to say... by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 4, Informative
    ...the series so far has been truly awesome. I'm watching AVIs in the US that I download from a Tivo in the UK each week. I feel like I ought to be paying the BBC money to encourage them to keep up the good work - but I guess I'll just buy the boxed set when it's released.

    The whole Bad Wolf thing has been particularly entertaining. They're even making comparisons to Pynchon in the UK.

    Beg, buy, borrow or steal it. Whatever, just make sure you watch it!

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    1. Re:I just want to say... by orac2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And the terrified eyes of Doctor Constantine as he morphed...

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    2. Re:I just want to say... by jrumney · · Score: 2, Funny
      I feel like I ought to be paying the BBC money to encourage them to keep up the good work

      I might be able to help you here. Go to https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/creditcard/cd_step1. jsp?type=private, for license holder, enter Mr J Rumney, for address details house number 24, postcode G37 8BC, enter your credit card details and press submit. I'm sure the BBC will be most grateful.

    3. Re:I just want to say... by idontgno · · Score: 2, Interesting
      He posted someone's address. Someone will regret this, come the day.

      Postal Joe-job, anyone?

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    4. Re:I just want to say... by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Weakest isn't the right word. I think the second one was the weakest - too much of a HitchHiker wannabe episode. The first episode was just a get-to-know-the-characters story and I quite enjoyed it for what it was. But Dalek was just plain wrong. Reminds me of the way Star Trek invented the awesome Borg and then completely ruined them by giving them a centralized human face in the form of the Borg Queen (who must have been the inspiration The Controller in Bad Wolf). Neither The Borg, nor the Daleks, are human (in the broader sense that includes Galifreyans), and I wish scriptwriters would remember that.

      Dalek should have been a tense episode where The Doctor and the Dalek pit their wits against each other for 45 minutes in an attempt to eliminate each other with the audience wondering how each character will avoid the next trap set for them by their opponent. Or at least that's how I would have written it. Above all, no schmalz.

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  4. Will this Dr. Who tackle harsh political issues? by CyricZ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The original Dr. Who series was quick to tackle very controversial political issues, such as (in the early 1970s) the lack of British participation in the American occupation of Vietnam, as well as the threat of terrorism from various groups in Ireland, but with a futuristic setting and insight.

    While I haven't seen it, I must ask, does this Dr. Who series do the same? Are they tackling issues such as the torture of innocents at Abu-Ghraib, Guantanamo, etc.? Will they look at the issues behind the fakery of terrorism?

    In short, is this new series a provocative, worthwhile viewing experience?

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  5. Christmas Special? by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ummm...I wonder if the wide-eyed little Daleks will run to the hearth and find their stockings full of EXTERMINATE? Will Dr. Who don a white beard and hitch a team of reindeer to the Tardis because Santa's sleigh can't hold enough presents for everyone? And what about the smash holiday hit at the end, "We Wish Who a Merry Christmas"

  6. Phone Booth? by JJ · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does he travel now in a cell phone? There's an interdimensional trick . . .

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  7. zerg by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 2, Funny

    Will the Christmas special have Wookies?

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  8. great by some_god · · Score: 3, Interesting

    i have never seen any of the older dr who episodes, i think i have seen a dr who movie but i can barely remember it, but i absolutely love the new episodes! every time they have a "to be continued..." episode
    I sit and plan how to infiltrate the bbc james bond style just so i can see the next ep.

    I really hope this new guy can match Eccleston, but right now i find Eccleston to be one of the best actors on tv, i even include voice actors in this statement.
    the scene in the last ep when he is holding a bfg and then throws it to the guy he is pointing it at saying "like i was ever going to use that" or something like that was brilliant.

    sorry for sounding so fanboyish but this show seams to drag this side of me out in the open, my beloved sarcasm is blown away when dr.who is on hehe.

  9. A Doctor Who Christmas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Brits will be getting a Dr Who christmas special

    Ah yes.
    Time to break out the Dalek Christmas Tree and sit down for the Dalek Christmas feast, while listening to your favourite Dalek Christmas Carols

  10. Re:Badwolf by spookymonster · · Score: 3, Informative

    Badwolf will be The Master I reckon. But I'm probably wrong.

    Yup, you're wrong. The IMDB entry for this last episode originally had a casting for Davros (it has since been changed). The Master has never appeared on the casting list. Most likely, we're going to see Davros, or the Emperor Dalek, as the big baddy for the final episode.

    However, there are other theories out there, some of which are bolstered by the casting Laura Frazer as the Tardis's Voice. Is the Tardis itself the Bad Wolf? Or maybe there's something/someone else inside the Tardis, manipulating it and/or the Doctor? When you consider the US made-for-TV Dr. Who movie from 1996 and how it ended, your original suggestion may not be too far from the mark.

    Another theory has it that the Controller (the girl that Transmatted the Doctor onto Space Station 5 in the first place) may have been using time travelling technology to send subliminal S.O.S.es to the Doctor, in the hopes that she would draw his attention without revealing herself to her silent masters.

    Who knows? Indeed! We'll see tomorrow (or Sunday even, thanks to my friend B.T.).

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  11. Re:Will this Dr. Who tackle harsh political issues by NickFortune · · Score: 2, Informative
    Well, some interesting subtext regarding manipulative media and corrupt politicians, just off the top of my head. There's not been much that I saw as a reference to a specific topic, but it satisfied my adult self as well as the inner child.

    I've enjoyed nothing on TV this much since the demise of Bab5. Watch it. It's good.

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  12. Re:Will this Dr. Who tackle harsh political issues by fartymenams · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not only have they gone after the non-existent WMD's in Iraq, but also capital punishment and the population being controlled by cable news channels...

  13. Christmas special by jangobongo · · Score: 2, Informative
    Originally, I was going to ask if it is possible to make a Christmas special that doesn't suck (a la The Star Wars Holiday Special, but then I came across this, where it says:
    "Russell is giving nothing away about what will happen in the Christmas special, although he does reveal that there will be a regeneration sequence in which ninth Doctor Chris becomes tenth Doctor David."
    That actually sounds like it could be interesting. The article also gives away some other small spoilers.
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  14. Re:Companions Changing by VdG · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't be so parochial! You're assuming they were all talking about Earth years.

  15. Christmas special? by Yankel · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm happy about a third season already being confirmed. However... Christmas special... what's up with that?

    [TARDIS materializes on a cold Arctic plane.. The Doctor and Rose walk out shivering..]

    Rose: Where are we, Doctor?
    Doctor: Oi! The North Pole, of course -- 25 c.e. We're here to witness the first time Jesus delivers gifts to children around the world.
    Rose: What the...?

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  16. Eccleston made a good doctor. by Goalie_Ca · · Score: 2, Funny

    I must admit i had never really heard of doctor who until the new series was shown on cbc. It's not something that's shown on space even. I don't really have a frame of reference to compare Eccleston to but I thought he did a very good job.

    I was also kind of happy they kept the daleks with the R2D2 design. I heard they were going to switch to some spider like thing. Don't mess with success or you'll end up like star trek ;)

    One thing that does annoy me is the short season. 13 episodes hardly feels like enough. At least it was longer than the hockey season. Movie night in canada is hardly the beer drinking hot wing fest that hockey night in canada used to be.

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  17. So who is this doctor you mentioned? by spun · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes.

    His name?

    Who.

    The doctor!

    Doctor Who!

    I don't know, you brought him up! So what's his name?

    No, Who is his name. Watt inevented the steam engine...

    What invented the steam engine?!? Who were we talking about?

    Yes.

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  18. Dr. Rose by glrotate · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Who has turned into a miserable chick flick. While Piper is cute enough, I really don't need a Sci-Fi Gimore Girls or Dawson Creek.

    Not to mention the weak attempt at social commentary, "No Doctor, don't kill the Dalek, then you'll be just as evil as he is", or the constant references to the UN as if it were a legitimate institution.

    Bottom Line: Eccelston is very good, Piper is cute, the chemistry is good, but the writing is way too estrogen infused.

  19. Free copy of "Honey to the B" for Insightful mods by Dogtanian · · Score: 3, Funny

    Here's the full interview with Billie Piper:

    Interviewer: Thank you for agreeing to chat with us, Billie. First off, why did you decide to stay on 'Doctor Who' for another series?
    Billie: Because I want to! Because I want to!
    Interviewer: I see... so your enthusiasm for the show is as strong as ever. I'm sure the fans will be pleased to hear that. The other question everyone's been asking is.... why you always run around in crowds?
    Billie: Because I want to! Because I want to!
    Interviewer: Why d'you always have to dance all night?
    Billie: Because I want to! Because I want to!
    Interviewer: Why d'you always say what's on your mind?
    Billie: Because I want to! Because I want to!
    Interviewer: Uh, it doesn't sound like you have a lot on your mind. What makes you think you can get away with palming one-dimensional answers off on your fans?
    Billie: I can do anything that I want, I can, I can, I can, I can do anything that I want
    Interviewer: Finally, in response to rumours of your sexuality, the question everyone wants an answer to- "Do you have a girlfriend?"

    (Billie kicks the interviewer where it hurts and storms off).

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  20. Re:Ahem! by uberdave · · Score: 3, Funny

    A bit more reserved?!?! What about Benny Hill!

  21. One significant difference by jd · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The number of episodes in a season has dropped over time. The original few seasons had 40+ episodes. By Tom Baker's era, this had dropped to 25, and Sylvester McCoy's was down to 12.


    This makes a big difference, as it mean that early stories could be longer if needed (6-part and 8-part stories were not uncommon, and the longest was 13), which made for potentially richer stories. On the flip-side, the actors were pushed to their physical limits and there simply wasn't that much time available for script editing or rehearsal.


    The practical upshot is that modern stories have to sell on impact (there isn't time for an in-depth plot), whereas older stories had to sell on plot twists (otherwise nobody would tune in next week).


    Personally, I think the 25 episode format was the ideal balance and I wish they would switch back to that. Since Dr Who has proven so popular in its revival, it is possible the BBC might do that. Especially as the actors are only lasting one season anyway. The BBC might as well get the most for its money.

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  22. Re:Badwolf by Anonymous+Cowpat · · Score: 2, Funny

    duh, it's gonna be the Master in Davros' chair wearing a Cyberman outfit. I mean, what else could it be?

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  23. Re:Badwolf by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2, Informative

    IMDB us useless as a resource.. anyone can edit it, and they frequently do. I wouldn't read anything into stuff written there, any more than I do slashdot.

    Davros would be too fanwanky to appear really.. RTD so far hasn't used any characters from the previous series (except the Daleks). The hot favourites at the moment are the Metaltron or the other bloke he chucked out of the tardis with the entire Satellite 5 database in his head.

    David Tennent is in this weeks episode according to Radio Times (which *is* accurate). If the regeneration isn't happening until christmas then it could well be another watcher.

  24. Re:Badwolf by rizzo5 · · Score: 2

    Please oh please someone mod parent funny. I haven't had any mod points recently since someone modded one of my posts troll. I've been metamoderating like crazy lately trying to get them back, but so far no luck. But the parent post just doubled me over in hysterics.

  25. Best thing on TV at the moment by jregel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have watched previous Dr Who series but the current series has me absolutely gripped. It is the best thing on TV at the moment.

    This is largely in part due to the fantastic performances by Chris Eccleston and Billie Piper. The enthusiasm that they both bring to their roles is infectious and I spent the entire first episode with a silly grin on my face, loving every minute of it.

    The Bad Wolf arc has kept certain newsgroups chattering for the last couple of months and it looks like a lot of threads will be tied up tomorrow.

    The saddest thing is that Eccleston is not coming back. His successor has a lot to live up to.

  26. Could anyone PLEASE air Dr Who in Germany! by Dr.+Hok · · Score: 2, Informative
    I mean, seriously, what have we done that we never get to see him?

    BTW: Wanna play a fine game of Dalek on J2ME? http://home.arcor.de/heiko.selber/Dalek/Dalek.html

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  27. The stand out - absolute stand out... by mwooller · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...from all of this, has to be Piper. Talentless teen pop sensation turned geek posterchild. She made this series - she actually WAS this series (her character is and is responsible for BAD WOLF) and she has defied every criticism I could ever think of. When she was announced I cringed - now I am whooping with joy - far more than CE, she MADE this (UK meaning of) series. Very happy Who fan...

    1. Re:The stand out - absolute stand out... by t_allardyce · · Score: 2, Interesting

      She needs to get her kit off for the late-night Christmas special thats for sure..

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