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EFF: 48 Hours to Stop the Broadcast Flag

The Importance of writes "Think the Broadcast Flag is dead? EFF is warning that Hollywood is trying to sneak the broadcast flag into law as an amendment to a massive appropriations bill. 'If what we hear is true, the provision will be introduced before a subcommittee tomorrow and before the full appropriations committee on Thursday. That gives us 48 hours to stop it.' Action Alert here. List of Senator's phone numbers here."

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  1. senators by SparafucileMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    i'd write my senators, but i can't find my checkbook.

    1. Re:senators by IntergalacticWalrus · · Score: 5, Funny

      "i'd write my senators, but i can't find my checkbook."

      Gotta love how this was modded 'insightful'...

    2. Re:senators by SparafucileMan · · Score: 3, Funny

      why do you hate America?

    3. Re:senators by ImaLamer · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think you switched moderation with this guy.

    4. Re:senators by CarrionBird · · Score: 4, Funny

      Suppose it should have been 'informative'

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    5. Re:senators by failure-man · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why do you people always seem to think "hating the regime == hating America"?

      If we actually hated America we'd be happy to let our so-called leaders destroy the hell out of it. We're fighting them. The proper conclusion should be obvious to anyone whose brain is not made of sour cream.

    6. Re:senators by RickPartin · · Score: 2, Funny

      He has to write a check for the overnight shipping of his letter. Only 48 hours left. What were you thinking?

    7. Re:senators by SparafucileMan · · Score: 4, Funny

      i'm reporting you to the feds. you no better than a terrorist.

    8. Re:senators by failure-man · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh, right. One of those "joke" things I have so much trouble spotting on the internets.

    9. Re:senators by failure-man · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe because they don't disagree with him? We're torturing people who we've held without charge in secret prisons for four years. Does that sound like what a good democratic nation should be doing? Didn't we start a war a few years back with the declared purpose of ending this kind of nonsense?

      Also, Durbin's my senator, and he certainly isn't gonna lose my vote over this. Knowing this state that's a common sentiment. Illinois (at least up in the north-east corner where all the people are anyway) is what's called "still sane."

    10. Re:senators by failure-man · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We've had them locked up for as much as four years now. Due process of law. We need to either charge them with a crime or release them.

      (Also, the supreme court seems to think that this should happen in actual courts, with proper procedure and without secret evidence rather than the "tribunals" that Rummy seems to prefer.)

    11. Re:senators by arkanes · · Score: 2

      Did you even read the abu-gahrib report? Prisoners there were repeatedly beaten, attacked with dogs, and raped. Lyddie England, guilty as she may be, is being used a scapegoat so that the institution that explicitly permitted and advocated those actions can get off scott free - the Army uses "civilian contractors" to run "interrogations". Why? Because these "civilians" exist in a legal loophole where theres no law with jurisdiction over therem. Rumsfeld has repeatedly defended the use of torture (that specific word, mind you, there's no playing of games about turning up the AC here) as a legitimate means of obtaining information. What the fuck is *wrong* with you that you think this is okay?

    12. Re:senators by Some_Llama · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Perhaps not, but it sounds like the least of what these people deserve, and a lot less than what I'd do them if I got anywhere near them."

      Even if they are innocent? And we can't determine this yet because they haven't been tried by a court....

  2. BroadCast Flag by Canadian_Daemon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With the new CRIA law in Canada, and now the broadcast flag in America, it looks like the recording industry 'winning'. It's looks pretty bad for those fighting for digital rights.

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    1. Re:BroadCast Flag by barc0001 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The CRIA thing was only introduced as a bill, it's not law yet. Contact your MP. I have.

  3. I wrote about this to CNN by flyingace · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dont know if my news tip will get picked up. These things should not be sneaked in.

    1. Re:I wrote about this to CNN by Umbral+Blot · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Dont know if my news tip will get picked up. These things should not be sneaked in.
      I hope you mean that humerously. CNN, being part of a media conglomerate has a vested intest in seeing the broadcast flag go through. I don't think that they are going to bring it to the publics attention against their own best interests.
    2. Re:I wrote about this to CNN by Fittysix · · Score: 4, Insightful

      CNN may be part of the problem, but in the end they're journalists, they're ALWAYS looking for some kind of news that can raise public intrest. The CNN news room could care less about wether it goes through or not, AOL/TW might have something to say on the matter but the only thing they care about from CNN is the ratings, not the content.

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    3. Re:I wrote about this to CNN by geekee · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I hope you mean that humerously. CNN, being part of a media conglomerate has a vested intest in seeing the broadcast flag go through. I don't think that they are going to bring it to the publics attention against their own best interests."

      Yes, CNN sues people constantly for bootlegging old Larry King Live shows. Teens and college students just can't get enough of that show.

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  4. Why.. by Sloppy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why don't I ever hear stories about conservatives/libertarians sneaking laissez-faire clauses into appropriations bills? Someone should have sneakily repealed DMCA by now.

    Is playing dirty somehow beneath the good guys? Oh, that's what makes them the good guys...

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    1. Re:Why.. by pete6677 · · Score: 5, Informative

      It can't really be done. One of the big responsibilities of paid industry lobbyists is looking through the details of laws to insert terms that are favorable to them and try to remove those that aren't. As soon as some music customer rights are inserted into an appropriations bill, the RIAA lobbyists will notice and make a big stink out of it, ensuring that the reps who are on their payroll will immediately remove the offending items. It is a nice thought, however.

    2. Re:Why.. by The+Analog+Kid · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ron Paul (L-TX, well should be anyway, stupid ballot access laws), trys to recind big government laws but they always get shot down.

    3. Re:Why.. by Alsee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wait, what conservatives? Do you mean Republicans?

      No, I think he means "paleo-conservatives" as opposed to "neo-conservatives" (the majority of Republican politicians being of the neo sort).

      The Republican party desperately needs to split, but there is no place for them to go if they don't want to become Democrats. Under the broken US election system any third party attempt inherently throws the election against their interests. The third party spoiler effect - it tends to cripple the "major" candidate that would otherwise be closer to their preffered position.

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    4. Re:Why.. by Geek+of+Tech · · Score: 2, Funny
      >>Republicans aren't really that conservative. Think about it, they for large spending.

      And they for big grammar too.....

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    5. Re:Why.. by Savantissimo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ron Paul is R-TX not L-TX (He has been the Libertarian presidential candidate in the past, though.)

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    6. Re:Why.. by TheoMurpse · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hence why the grandparent said something like
      "L-TX (well should be, stupid ballot access laws)"
      In Texas, you must run as R or D. These are the "stupid ballot access laws" of which the GP speaks. Paul is a registered Libertarian, though, so it's close enough to call him "L-TX".

    7. Re:Why.. by Savantissimo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't recall ever hearing that you absolutely have to be R or D to get on the ballot in Texas, although it does make it easier.

      BTW Ron Paul lived not too far away from my town when I was in high school in San Marcos in 1990. My civics teacher spouted some misinformation in class about the Libertarian platform, so I gave him copies of the LP handouts.

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    8. Re:Why.. by MagicM · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But if they do it frequently enough, and a "big stink" is raised frequently enough, eventually the ability for anyone to do it will be revoked. Right?

      (wishful thinking...)

  5. 48 hours? More like 0 hours. by PipianJ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As soon as it's a rider on an appropriations bill like this, the broadcast flag is a foregone conclusion. The committee probably won't even know what they're doing.

    The broadcast flag is here to stay, regardless of the EFF's "48 hours" claim.

  6. Met a Bill I Like by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why don't all the "special interests" who hate special interests sneaking arbitrary laws into bills get together to outlaw them?

    Every bill must have a scope. It must apply to a single budget, or a single government organization, or their subsidiaries. Or it must be a "metabill", which specifies only a collection of bills related in an explicit policy, the exact relationship stated in the metabill.

    Of course, Congressmembers should be voting against these big bills, with arbitrary attachments, on the principle of government manageability. But they obviously don't - they're all codependent on letting each other's attachments pass, often regardless of consequences, in exchange for the same favor later on. So we need to force them to stop doing it. Because the mass of laws, their inner complexity and scale, is killing the ability of anyone to participate in our democracy beyond any significant confrontation with the law. When only the lawyers win, we all lose.

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    1. Re:Met a Bill I Like by Mac+Degger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I totally agree: for a bill to be able to be passed into law, it should only contain clauses relevant to the bill's main aim (as stated in the title, perhaps?).

      But you US-ans should be so lucky. The problem you're settled with now is one which should be obvious: in a nation where no-one takes the sciences, but a lawyer is glamorised (along with other law enforcement agencies like the police, CSI etc), you end up with a nation of lawyers.
      And if your populace is composed of lawyers....they'll do what lawyers do, which is to create laws. And after all the sensible laws are made, they'll add more, and obfusciate the system until a non-lawyer can't possibly understand the law anymore.
      And then there come the laws which are only good for the lawyers and the ones paying the lawyers...which the general public won't pick up on, because the law has become so cryptic that little by little, what used to be common sense and common law is no more.

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    2. Re:Met a Bill I Like by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think the US has been afflicted with our lawyer-centric modern culture in no small part due to TV. The 46-minute TV drama (plus 17 commercial minutes) is very well suited to glorifying charicatures of lawyers, but not other professions, like engineers, doctors, scientists, teachers. While the Web is better suited for more documentary, even "mockumentary" media presentation, in which lawyers look more boring and contrived than these other jobs. Just like newspapers were a medium more sympathetic to the fiery oratory of a preacher or muckraking politician.

      OTOH, the evolving Web, especially decentralized social networks, might turn out to best feature pornopop idols like Paris Hilton. I think the next few years, especially as mobile multimedia networks defined by people's contact lists begin to dominate, are the defining moment for the next few (human) generations of mass media. It's up to us to take the spotlight back from lawyers, and feature more real people.

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    3. Re:Met a Bill I Like by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A popular demand from Republicans (when they had the White House, and a Democratic Congress) was a "line-item veto" power for the President. That's an end-run around not only these contrived, sneaky bundles, but also around the kind of Congressional compromises that are the only legislative tradition we've got. Instead, we need Congress to be accountable for all of these laws they pass. At the very least, as insane as it sounds, we need a mechanism to ensure that they even read the entire bill that they vote for, supposedly representing the millions of people in their state.

      Perhaps a good mechanism would be to require each bill to specify which paragraphs must be passed, itemized or by fraction, in order for the bill to pass. Then require each paragraph to be voted independently, then compared to the requirement, and enacted or discarded.

      That mechanism might lead to really long paragraphs, with bundled specifications too difficult to manage in legal disputes. We might be forcing the Judicial Branch to throw out these "gumbo laws" as unintelligible. But we've got to somehow force the issue. Congressmembers and lawyers have made a hash of our laws, and our indigestion is going to be forced out somehow. Better on them than on us.

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    4. Re:Met a Bill I Like by bwalling · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Every bill must have a scope. It must apply to a single budget, or a single government organization, or their subsidiaries. Or it must be a "metabill", which specifies only a collection of bills related in an explicit policy, the exact relationship stated in the metabill.

      Please. Did you see what happened to the Interstate Commerce clause? They can relate any two things easier than you can tie it to Kevin Bacon.

    5. Re:Met a Bill I Like by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Which they currently do in secret, with side-deals and horsetrading they never have to justify to their constituency, let alone the public. So I specify how to enforce the scope. In another post in this thread, I suggest that Congress vote on each paragraph of a bill individually, with one mandatory paragraph specifying which paragraphs must pass for the bill to pass. Just because lawyers have made a mess of the system doesn't mean engineers can't patch it, including patching DoS holes in the lawmaking system itself. There's no end to the cat/mouse game, but the system is supposed to be an ongoing format for continual updating itself.

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    6. Re:Met a Bill I Like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dude, those don't really work. The vacuum just gives a small temporary illusion. Mostly they just chanfe your dick.

    7. Re:Met a Bill I Like by doubledoh · · Score: 4, Informative
      At the very least, as insane as it sounds, we need a mechanism to ensure that they even read the entire bill that they vote for, supposedly representing the millions of people in their state.

      As a matter of fact, there is a group trying to get a law passed that requires this exact thing: that all congressmen READ laws in their entirety outload before passing them (and only the ones present for the full reading may vote):

      Make Congress Read the Bills Campaign

      It's brilliant really. You gotta love the Libertarians.

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    8. Re:Met a Bill I Like by Archangel_Azazel · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't like the words "Law" and "execute" in the same post...especially when talking about *MY* government....

      A.A

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    9. Re:Met a Bill I Like by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Informative

      How do you know my response wasn't a joke? FWIW, these days, with Congressmembers talking about assassinating judges, sympathizing with those who do, it's inevitable that people start making statements like yours, in every context, in complete seriousness. It's the job of the joker to make their joke clear. So next time, use your emoticons in the joke, or make the joke actually funny, so it's recognizable. :P.

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  7. I didn't think you could by krbvroc1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I didn't think you could legislate on an appropriation bill? Is this for real? Its against the rules of the Senate (rule XVI) http://rules.senate.gov/senaterules/rule16.htm

    1. Re:I didn't think you could by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Appropriations Committee can put general legislation in an appropriations bill, and this is going through that route.

    2. Re:I didn't think you could by krbvroc1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      So the rule must be that Senators cannot offer admendments once the appropriations bill is on the floor for a vote but are free to do so in committee.

    3. Re:I didn't think you could by Duncan3 · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's so naive it's cute. This is America, congress does what it's paid to do.

      You're thinking of one of those axis of evil countries where people can vote and they hold government accountable, like England or something.

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    4. Re:I didn't think you could by greg_barton · · Score: 5, Funny

      Its against the rules of the Senate (rule XVI)

      I seem to recall the words of our honerable Senate president: "Go fuck yourself!"

    5. Re:I didn't think you could by dynamo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Someone forward this to the Senate!

    6. Re:I didn't think you could by mobby_6kl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah right, and presidential executive orders are about ordering more bottled water for the office.

  8. Damnit! by rogabean · · Score: 5, Informative

    Only residents of Alabama, Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia, or Wisconsin can sign this.

    I'm gonna post this over on the various MythTV communities as well... try to get more support drummed up.

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    1. Re:Damnit! by Mercano · · Score: 2, Informative

      Those must be the states with Senators on the Appropriation Committe. When I sent one off, it only when to Patrick Leahy and not to Jim Jeffords.

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  9. Link is bad? Here's another... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    List of Senator's phone numbers here.

    Nope, slashdotted to hell. But you can get them from the source.

  10. Slashdotters Untie! I mean, Unite! by TheCamper · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is Congress susceptible to the Slashdot effect?

  11. We still can use our VCR by electrosoccertux · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So I'm not worried about it. I don't have any plans to get a Tivo so it doesn't really bother me. Besides, I think you can get around these by making your own Tivo. Maybe we could route just the video signal from the Tivo/device over to out TV capture card? I'd like to say "the people" will stand up for their rights when they want to, but "the people" are just too plain stupid. Kinda like the proles, they could get it done if they'd all rise up together, but they're all lazy, stupid, and shallow.

    1. Re:We still can use our VCR by Jaime2 · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is exactly what the broadcast flag was designed for. You can tape all the analog stuff you want, but with the broadcast flag in effect, it will be illegal to sell any device that can transmit an HD signal to anything that doesn't honor the broadcast flag. There goes any hope of a homebrew HDTV TiVo.

      There also goes any hope of any non-corporate innovation in HDTV and the beginning of all-out consumer fleecing without any regard for fair use. From now on, we'll have to beg for everything from Hollywood. Even the stuff we take for granted today.

    2. Re:We still can use our VCR by BillyBlaze · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I'll spare you the poem people usually post in response to "this injustice doesn't affect me, so I don't mind." It's ironic that you call "the people" shallow so soon after exposing your own lack of depth. Not that they aren't shallow, sadly.

      As for utilizing the analog hole, yes, that remains possible, but there are serious drawbacks - remember that we're talking about HDTV here - I'm pretty sure all the ways that that actually gets transmitted over the wire transmits the flag.

      Now, obviously from a technological standpoint, this means nothing - there will be firmware hacks, instructions on how to assemble a flag stripper from $0.47's worth of parts from Radio Shack, and of course eBay. It will end up being slightly easier than disabling Macrovision, slightly harder than making your DVD-player region free. But the important thing is, it will be illegal!

      Call me old-fashioned, but I'm fucking tired of everything I do being made technically illegal, even if it has no tangible effect. I'm not ripping anybody off, I'm not sharing with millions of my closest friends, I'm just trying to record telvision shows when I'm not home, and sometimes watch my DVDs or store my CDs on my computer. I'm not harming anybody, I'm not not paying someone when I should, and so it should. not. be. illegal.

    3. Re:We still can use our VCR by glwtta · · Score: 2, Funny
      I'm not ripping anybody off ... I'm just trying to record telvision shows when I'm not home ... I'm not harming anybody, I'm not not paying someone when I should, and so it should. not. be. illegal.

      Oh? And what if when you get back home you watch that recorded show and skip the commercials? Or what about if you watch it TWICE and then DON'T watch it (or the commercials) when the station reruns the show? That's clearly not how the content providers would like you to watch those shows - how is that not stealing?

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  12. Why do you still have riders? by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm an Australian so when I first heard about rider bills I honestly didn't beleive it. Then I discovered that Australia also had the problem of rider bills at some stage. We recognised them as a problem and we fixed them. We no longer have rider bills. Does any other democracy on earth still have them? Is it impossible for americans to recognise a problem and fix it without ballsing it up? It just seems you have all these parasites gaming your political process and you do nothing about it. You know how everyone knows that US congressmen take bribes? Well, here in Australia, it's illegal for politicians to take bribes. It's like that in the rest of the world too right? So why can't americans recognise something that's so straight forward and simple (politicans should not be permitted to take bribes) and do something about it?

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    1. Re:Why do you still have riders? by Ryosen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You know how everyone knows that US congressmen take bribes? Well, here in Australia, it's illegal for politicians to take bribes.

      It's illegal here in the US, too....It's just condoned.

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    2. Re:Why do you still have riders? by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, compaign donations are illegal in Australia too. The conversation went something like this:

      Police: "Ok, bribes are illegal, don't take bribes."
      Politicians: "This isn't a bribe, it's a campaign contribution."
      Police: "No, it's a bribe, and if you take it I'll arrest you."
      Politicians: "Oh, ok, sorry."

      Whereas in the US the conversation goes something like this:

      Police: "Hey guys, 'bribes' are apparently illegal now, looks like we're gunna have to be honest and do our jobs for a change."
      Politicians: "Don't be silly, we'll just call them campaign contributions."
      Police: "Uhhh, look, I'm not sure you can get away with that."
      Politicians: "Really? Here's a contribution to the campaign to help you see things my way."
      Police: "Heh, ok, I get ya, it's not like anyone is minding the store anyway."

      And no-one was.

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    3. Re:Why do you still have riders? by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'll tell you the same thing I told the last moron who said the US isn't a democracy because it's a republic, the two are not mutually exclusive. You can have a republic that is democratic in nature, or you can have a republic that is not. You can have a democracy that is constrained by a constitution and is seperated into different levels or you can have a democracy that isn't. Of course, when you actually look at what your country is instead of what it claims to be it is neither a democracy nor a republic, it's a totalatarian plutocracy with a buttload of sugar on top so the fat lazy occupants think they're getting a good deal.

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    4. Re:Why do you still have riders? by ajs · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "For the record, the US is NOT a democracy."

      Hi, welcome to the 20th century... well, you're a bit late, but that's OK.

      Here in 20th-land we call any form of government where the people elect leaders, and where any citizen (with minimal restrictions, usually based on age, nation of origin, etc.) can campaign for those offices, a "democracy".

      Yes, this does NOT fit the classical definition, but since no one has founded a democracy in a VERY long time (arguably never), it's not going to be very confusing as we continue to use the new definition.

      If you're going to stamp your feet and hold your breath over it, you're really going to be unhappy, since most of the world started using the new definition (also, check out Wikipedia's excellent article on the topic of the modern usage of the word "democracy") at some point last century.

    5. Re:Why do you still have riders? by waynemcdougall · · Score: 4, Funny
      Why else would Cheney quite his super high paying job and sell his Haliburton stock if he wasn't going to make out any better than the relatively small VP salary.

      Ummm, to serve his country?

      To promote world peace?

      To change the country (and the world) for the better?

      To share his wisdom and experience for the betterment of humanity?

      To meet interns?

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    6. Re:Why do you still have riders? by ZorbaTHut · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Next motion on the table: Removing rider bills and criminal penalties for bribery. All in favor?"

      ". . ."

      "All opposed?"

      (chorus of nays)

      "Motion fails."

      That's why.

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    7. Re:Why do you still have riders? by sasha328 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The difference between the US and westminister system countries (like Australia, UK, Canada etc) is not just that the President, Prime Minister (call them whatever, the Big Boss) only rules if his/her party want them to rule. We don't elect prime ministers, we elect members of parliament who appoint a prime minister (who usually happens to be the leader of the majority party).
      The main difference is that they usually are a multi party system; occasionally independents or minor parties hold the "balance of power" in the senate. this effectively means that the people proposing law changes will have to satisfy these independents or minor parties. It's truely: "keeping the bastards honest" (in general).

    8. Re:Why do you still have riders? by johansalk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And don't forget the "revolving door" process where a politician does a stint on the board of a corporation, get loaded with share options, go back to government and in government remains loyal to his massive share options. Cheney and Halliburton are such examples, and most of the Bush administration. There's yet another reason why those who often end up in Government are multi-millionaires despite being fuckalls in actual business and actual governments.

  13. EFF has a site that will fax your senator for free by Shonufftheshogun · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can fax and email appropriation committee members for free at the EFF's action center.

  14. Did it ever occure to you yanks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That your system of goverment is one of the most corrupt in the world?

    How about spreading some democracy in your own back-yard before trying to take over the world.

    1. Re:Did it ever occure to you yanks... by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 5, Funny

      We're working on a patch for that.

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  15. Re:heh by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Instead of a petition, what we really need is the ability to give the Presidential Office back line-item veto power. With that power, the President could happily strike out stupid attachments like these without being accused of holding back "important legislation".

    Unfortunately, the Supreme Court decided that line-item veto power required an amendment (probably correct), so Clinton's strikeout were reversed. :-(

  16. If I'm not mistaken.... by Kwirl · · Score: 5, Funny

    By the time this story is an accepted submission, it will be 36+ hours past the deadline. All slashdotters should therefore direct their attention to criticizing the outcome pre-emptively in order to maintain an effective schedule.

  17. Re:48 hours? More like 0 hours. by ntk · · Score: 4, Informative

    The rider isn't there yet. We've got a strong rumour that it's going to be proposed, but if you kick up enough of a stink at this stage, it can be quietly withdrawn with no-one having to take a stand.

    Tell you what, why don't you call your Senator anyway, even if you think this is true? What have you got to lose? If the law goes through, you can tell everyone that you were right. And if it doesn't, you get to say you helped stop the flag against all the odds.

    Believe me, I love cynicism as much as the next person, but when it stops you from taking the one tiny step, the single principled stand that might have prevented disaster, you're not a cynic. You're a statistic. And a predictable one at that.

  18. Email is counterproductive by drwho · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Email is routinely ignored by congressional staffers. Signing a paper petition is a little more useful. A phone call is better still. A written letter is far superiour. Saying what you think in person is better still. The reason for these classifications is that elected officials are getting spammed and information overloaded like everyone else. If you spend more effort getting your particular issue heard, they also feel you will be more likely to remember them on election day. It's fairly valid.

    I am highly critical of these online petitions, because people believe that they have done something, and therefore will not follow up their web form tick-off with something more substantive like the communications mentioned above.

    I know it's a bit too late to dash of a handwritten letter to your rep in this occasion. But a phone call may be appropriate.

    1. Re:Email is counterproductive by hacker · · Score: 4, Insightful
      "I know it's a bit too late to dash of a handwritten letter to your rep in this occasion. But a phone call may be appropriate."

      And at 200 calls per-hour, they'll just stop answering the phones. Seriously, do you think they're going to listen?

      Going down there in person is a hit-or-miss chance of actually speaking to someone with the power to change anything... or you'll end up in jail for "stalking" your senator.

      The reason they probably slid this through on a rider so fast, was likely so people could NOT write to their senators in time.

      I love my government more and more every day, don't you?

    2. Re:Email is counterproductive by ElitistWhiner · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...here's how they play the game. You email without your name, address, phone number it is ignored. If the information is in the representative's district. It is responded appropriately.

      They need votes. Your information is a likely vote for their next election. Not in district of representative = not a voter.
      -r

    3. Re:Email is counterproductive by jalefkowit · · Score: 2, Informative
      Email is routinely ignored by congressional staffers. Signing a paper petition is a little more useful. A phone call is better still. A written letter is far superiour.

      This was true, until Capitol Hill was hit by letters containing anthrax back in 2001-2. Nowadays snail-mail letters get a lot less personal attention than they used to (for obvious reasons).

  19. Shouldn't the headline change in real time? by Fortyseven · · Score: 2, Funny

    I mean, 12 hours from now it won't be true. Even right now it's not true anymore. Oh my god...time is slipping away from me...help...Calgon! *brrzzt-thud*

  20. Re:Slashdotters Untie! I mean, Unite! by Ingolfke · · Score: 5, Funny

    See the senators flee in terror as hundreds of thousands of /.'ers email "In Soviet Russia the bill rides you".

    (Note... many are confused as they believe this may be a reference to the previous administration.)

  21. Our Founding Fathers messed up... by SeventyBang · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...on one topic: permitting piggy-backing legislation on unrelated legislation. There were Congress Critters who actually added material to 9/11 bills because they knew it would be passed. If contenders for their offices don't point this stuff out, they deserve to lose and take a job working on a honey wagon: fringe benefit - all you can eat.

    The fact the Broadcast Flag has been inserted to another bill is an example of where someone needs to make a phone call to Guido and have him wait on a door step, ring the doorbell, and kneecap someone.

    Some are more adept at doing it than others. One good example is a former KKK member. That should provide enough information to forego the necessity of naming them. Some of the network reporters are good at presenting some of the larger garbage ammendments but they never say who actually added the material to the bill.

  22. When writing to your senators, please by melted · · Score: 2, Funny

    When writing to your senators, please use soft paper. Best of all, use bathroom tissue. This way you will make it comfortable for senators to "work" through your mails.

  23. Orwell just rolled over in his grave by hacker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ok, so here we have the FCC mandating that we have to all convert our "old analog" television sets to digital television sets by 2007 or something...

    Then we have the "Broadcast Flag" being driven through on a rider, shh... nobody will notice.

    And now they can basically control what you can record via your "Dish DVR" or "TiVo" or TV tuner card or whatever other device you want to use, because of Hollywood pressure.

    We already see DVDs where you can't bypass the intro commercials to get to the navigational menus, even for DVDs which we bought, which should have paid for the removal of those commercials.

    Next, we'll see television sets being sent a signal that ignores the remote control's "channel" buttons during commercials. You just won't be able to switch away during commercials... you'll be forced to watch them (or power off your TV).

    How far are we from a Telescreen here, really? I mean... all they need is a way to peer back in, and a way to stop you from turning off the TV or the volume...

    Orwell would be proud.

    1. Re:Orwell just rolled over in his grave by glwtta · · Score: 2, Insightful
      even for DVDs which we bought, which should have paid for the removal of those commercials

      You meant to say "which we licensed for limited use" - I'm sure the MPAA will forgive you this one slipup.

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    2. Re:Orwell just rolled over in his grave by segfault7375 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...you'll be forced to watch them (or power off your TV)...

      Sound like the best solution I have heard so far.

  24. Follow the open source philosophy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Why can't the open source model work for media?

    Software:
    1. Companies make proprietary software
    2. Then charge a lot
    3. Have copyright law to prevent copying
    4. People gripe
    5. People makes free software.
    Movies/Music:
    1. Artists make movies/music
    2. Companies package and market it
    3. Then charge a lot
    4. Have copyright/DMCA law to prevent copying
    5. People gripe
    Why not the next step: People make free movies/music?
  25. Re:Revolution anyone? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yap yap revolution yap yap. How about running for Congress, on a legitimate reform platform, or backing someone who will? Most of the Constitution has articles, and a "bill" of rights, to institutionalize "revolution", without opening the door to anarchy, mob rule, or - most likely today - corporate fascism without its mediagenic face. The entire House of Representatives, and 1/3 of the Senate are up for grabs in only 18 months. Unless you're willing to throw constitutional representative democracy itself on the line, why don't you just use the revolutionary institutions we've got, to throw out the tyrants? It
    s because you sound so much cooler talking about revolution than talking about campaigning for election, right? Actually putting liberty, to say nothing of your life, on the line, has nothing to do with your tough talk.

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  26. Re:bite the hand that feeds you. by NShade · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'll just turn the damn thing off. 64 channels of pure bullshit, the movies suck. Even the cooking shows are turning stupid.

    Indeed. I've been thinking of canceling my cable TV service (although not my cable modem, Broadband is Life ;) and this just pushes me closer to doing so.

    I have no interest in downloading or sharing TV shows, so if they are going to try and treat me like a criminal, I see no reason to watch their crap.

  27. Re:Oh Crap.. by frgough · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Take a look at average donor amounts for the two political parties. You may be surprised.

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  28. Another 48 Hours Killed the Broadcast Flag by Ingolfke · · Score: 4, Funny

    In a major media blunder the US Government and major media corporations are denying the resuscitation of the broadcast flag. Despite wide reports, Doug Herzog, President of SpikeTV (the First Network for Men) has confirmed that he along with other media executives have decided to abandon all attempts to push the broadcast flag through congress. In a press release Herzong noted,

    "After looking at our summer lineup of movies, and previewing 48 Hours, starring Eddie Murphey and Nick Nolte, it was pretty clear that we wouldn't need a broadcast flag to keep people from recording our programming. I and a few others, hoping to promote our July 4th weekend of 48 Hours of 48 Hours, only on Spike TV also watched Another 48 Hours. After we finished the film, we were confident that we had done the right thing to abandon the broadcast flag and honestly were considering abandoning television altogether."

  29. Re:heh by grub · · Score: 5, Funny

    especially considering who's currently holding the pen.

    s/pen/crayon/g

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  30. This is what I wrote my Senator by fname · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The so-called Broadcast Flag is an abomination and needs to be rejected by the Senate. It will do nothing to stop large-scale piracy, and will only serve to limit the fair-use rights of American citizens to time shift television programs, save them for later viewing or view tv program's at a family members house. Authorizing the broadcast flag will force innovative consumer electronics companies to ask for Hollywood permission before introducing new products.

    Media oligarchies, led by the RIAA & MPAA, tried to sue the VCR out of existence. They sued the first makers of MP3 players. They sued ReplayTV into bankruptcy because they dared to introduce an innovative product without the MPAA's permission. If the broadcast flag and similar legislative tools had been around for the last 25 years, we wouldn't have the VCR, iPods, TiVos or computer DVD recorders. These tools have helped democratize content creation, distribution & consumption by putting citizens/customers in charge of their home-made movies, music, and photographs.

    Vote against the Broadcast Flag. It is simply a power grab by media oligopolies intended to criminalize the fair-use of media of Americans of all stripes.

  31. Re:Don't think! Just do!!! NOW NOW NOW!!! by bersl2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No one thinks independently of one another. You live in a society in which events and decisions that affect you and others happen far beyond your ability to personally witness. At some point, you must trust someone. Therefore, everyone is capable of being manipulated, and everyone is manipulated to some degree.

    Now, would you rather be manipulated by corporations who suck you dry, or Slashdot which, for whatever reason, is manipulating you to seek something that will benefit you (the stopping the Broadcast Flag)?

    Would you rather be a Slashbot, or a corporate whore? Hey, it's your pick.

  32. Re:Legalese to english translation algorithm by Ingolfke · · Score: 3, Funny
    Couldn't someone write a program that you could feed the text of a bill into and it would simplify the language, making it easier to find stuff like this so it could be removed?
    #include <stdio>
    void main(void) {
    printf("Screw over general populace.\n");
    return;
    }
  33. Re:heh by AvitarX · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wouldn't it be really great if compromises reached by representitives of different people could be undermined by the president. I was always hoping that the checks and balances could be removed from our system.

    As much as they are abused there is a reason many things can be put in a bill. It is so a consecion can be made to the other side and things can keep moving along.

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  34. Re:Post-Reading Test by Phroggy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why that won't solve anything:

    "I actually voted for the $87 billion, before I voted against it." - John Kerry

    Bush used that quote to accuse Kerry of flip-flopping on issues, but Kerry didn't actually change his mind - the version of the bill he voted for, Bush threatened to veto because Bush wasn't happy with where the money was going to come from. The bill was changed so the money would come from somewhere else, and Kerry voted against it, not because he opposed the whole bill, but because he opposed one part of it.

    Most bills that go through Congress have so much unrelated crap tacked onto them that no matter which way you vote, you're almost guaranteed to be voting for or against something people like and something people dislike at the same time, and whichever part of that was unpopular, your opponent will use against you during your reelection campaign. Of course, since you're the incumbent and they're not, you can't use the same trick against them, because they weren't in office at the time!

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  35. Re:heh by Nasarius · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Instead of a petition, what we really need is the ability to give the Presidential Office back line-item veto power. With that power, the President could happily strike out stupid attachments like these without being accused of holding back "important legislation".

    The line-item veto gives the President an insane amount of power that he, as chief executive, has no right to. Anyway, do you really think George Bush or Bill Clinton gives a crap about the broadcast flag? Hardly.

    A more realistic (and Constitutional!) solution could be reached if the House and/or Senate would amend their rules to disallow unrelated riders.

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  36. Re:Don't think! Just do!!! NOW NOW NOW!!! by saleenS281 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If any one american attempted to educate themselves on EVERYTHING that goes on in a given day within the government, it would be a full-time job... at best. And between you and me I doubt they'd be able to do it even as a full-time job unless they're some kind of sick freak who can envelope terabytes of data to their brains and retain it all daily. (doubtful).

    The point of these "damn websites" telling us "what to do" is that you take a GROUP of people, all doing their part to police a little bit at a time. Then someone cries wolf, points out the reasoning behind it, and then we all can jump on the problem.

    I am open to suggestions on how you think that an average person should stay "educated" on every bill, and every last word in those bills without a "FUCKING WEBSITE" instructing them on it's contents though. Please do enlighten us.

  37. Re:heh by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    line-item veto has very real risks

    1. Party X proposes legislation, concerns raised by party Y.
    2. Safeguards added to legislation to satisfy party Y
    3. Congress passes legislation
    4. Party X president snips out safeguards and passes the rest
    5. ???
    6. Police state!!!!

  38. Re:heh by Alien+Being · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't disagree with what you said, but you seem to have missed my point. If you can pick and choose which parts of a bill to accept, then you have the power to effectively rewrite it. That power is reserved for the congress. The potential for abuse is immense.

  39. Why bother... by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Congress is so in the pocket of the big companies, it doesn't seem like we voters even matter any more. I voted Republican and generally support them, and they won. But it still feels like "we" lost the election. That's because "we" don't matter. "They" will always win, but "they" have the money. Party is irrelevant. The courts run the country, the state legislatures are irrelevant and Congress is just the public relations arm of the big corporations.

    Isn't that a cheerful comment on the state of our nation?

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  40. Let it pass by oncebitten · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's a reason Tivo's and VCRs are so popular. It's to time shift. People have other things to do with their lives than sit around and watch TV. The networks are just shooting themselves in the foot. Network evening news broadcasts are getting creamed because of cable news (which is essentially timeshifted news). The same will occur to their precious copyrighted content. Less people will watch, and advertising revnues/rates will go down.

  41. Re:EFF has a site that will fax your senator for f by fermion · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Why is this so important. I mean the TV people have been digging themselves into a hole for many years. At this point broadcast TV survives on low quality and cheap reality shows, and cable providers depend on the demagogues that demand Fox news. The number of people who actually watch TV, other than sports, who are increasingly eating up more of the remaining profits.

    I understand that for many the only hope of having a naked person in your bedroom, or any person outside of your immediate family, is the television, but that is no reason to waste time on this issue. It will not go away, and you will continue to loop the latest teen idol as they take off their clothes.

    What we are seeing here is a result of televisions main purpose, to deliver viewers to advertisers. With the VCR, and Tivo, and the net, fewer people are watching the ads. This makes TV increasingly irrelevant. To make matters worse, the increase image quality really has nothing to do with bringing viewers to the advertisers, yet cost money. Furthermore, as advertising wanes, DVD sales are becoming more important. The increased picture quality might reduce DVD sales.

    But given the general illiteracy and obesity of the American public, there is no better way to reach viewers than TV. Even the net requires to much interaction, and broadcast over the net is not yet practical. So TV cannot go away. So what we are going to see is what we are seeing now. People actively not buying the more expensive sets. People not buying the conversion unit because the useless extra hardware makes it too expensive. And ultimately no conversion happening because there are not enough eyeballs to make it worthwhile.

    In the end, the free market may very well save us. In this case the consumer has the ultimate power because without the consumer, the advertisers have no reason to pay for the TV. And how few viewers are going to be worthwhile.

    Or we could just chuck the whole TV thing and go read a book, or, if we want to watch sports, go to the local college.

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  42. Purchase minimum cable! by Oshkoshjohn · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have been subscribing to ten-dollar minimum cable for some time. After deprogamming the Jesus channels and Home Shopping Network channels from the remote, I have ten channels left. I can surf my dial in under one minute and then shut the box off!

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  43. Re:It's coming, no matter what. by oncebitten · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Or better yet, buy 1 share of stock in the company that's doing something you feel is bad, attend the shareholder's meeting, and during the shareholder Q&A with the CEO, ask why your company (you are an owner as a shareholder) is pressuring this bad legislation.

    CEO's hate answering questions like that, especially with Wall Street listening. It might get something done, it might not, but you might find other shareholders (possibly with bigger clout) who share you view, and *are* in a position to do something.

  44. Re:heh by Alsee · · Score: 5, Funny

    what we really need is the ability to give the Presidential Office back line-item veto power

    Score:3, Insightful

    This should be Score:5, Funny! I absolutely burst out laughing when I read it. It took me a full minute before I could manage focus enough to read beyond that first sentence.

    Bush veto the broadcast flag? Woohoo! I guess that would be right between vetoing a Defense of Marriage item and trimming troubling new police powers out of Patriot Act II Revenge of the Sith.

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  45. Re:Post-Reading Test by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I was disturbed by Kerry's total failure to explain how he opposed that version of the war appropriation bill, after it was changed from a version he supported. I understood that he opposed the version with the unaccountable $15B (or so) in "Iraq reconstruction" funds, which still had not been spent when Kerry was campaigning, as he claimed he had feared when he voted against it. I disliked Kerry's irresponsible support for the war from the beginning: unconstitutionally handing the switch to declare war to a president, "when he thinks it's necessary to defend the national interest in Iraq" was a total copout. But it was even worse to hear a guy who'd have to spend at least the next 4 years explaining his policies to America say something in front of the campaign media so obviously doomed to be used against him, thereby deepening us into war. And into reeelction of that dangerous fool Bush. Who's much stupider, but at least has his sleazy act together.

    Which is all the more reason to change the packaging of these bills to the format that I described. With my way, Kerry could have said "I voted for the rest of the bill, but not the unaccountable $15B, which they still have mismanaged, though it's extremely necessary, so the whole bill didn't pass", or even "so I voted for a better bill the next month, which the Republicans voted down, because it lacked that bad section".

    This kind of bundling is exactly the reason we need scope rules on bills. Scoping makes it harder for Congress to shove pet projects down each others throats, and thereby ours, because it makes them address the bundling explicitly, and gives a public voting mechanism to reject tangential bundles. And it makes their positions on bundles much easier to explain to the public, especially considering the kind of atomicity required of soundbites from nonincumbents, when the corporate media is the filter.

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  46. Get your mom to call too, don't forget that... by geekotourist · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Based on anecdotal evidence the Slashdot crowd trends towards the young and male. So tomorrow at some point (8:22 est) the congressional staffers are going to get bored of the "yet another angry techie" call.

    That's where your mom comes in: she's a different generation and (on average) a different gender. This surprises the staffer, and they'll add a +2 to whatever your mom says.

    She can use one of the standard talking points, or mention how she wants her techie child to continue being employed. And, if she has grandkids, then variations of "Nothing, but nothing gets in the way of my showing off hi-def videos of my grandkids to my friends" could be useful. Plus, sad to say, the staffers are more likely to believe her when she says that she votes (or contributes to campaigns) because (on average) its true.

  47. Best Strategy: Boycott and Donate by craXORjack · · Score: 4, Insightful
    80% of you gush over every shitty movie that Hollywood releases and tell everyone how many times you will pay to see it or how you will wait in a line at midnight to buy the DVD. Then after stuffing the MPAA's pockets with your hard earned cash, you are outraged when they use a tiny fraction of that money to limit your freedoms by bribing congressmen with campaign contributions and junkets. Did you really need to see Spiderman II? Or Star Wars III? Or Weekend at Bernies IV? Boycott their crap and find healthier ways to entertain yourself than vegging out in front of a boob tube. The money you gave to the MPAA lawyers even by buying Ishtar from the bargain bin is more than 99% of you have ever given to the EFF or ACLU.

    If you haven't figured it out yet, every time you buy a product you are voting with your dollars.

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    1. Re:Best Strategy: Boycott and Donate by ymgve · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Boycotts are useless here. If enough people do it, to the point where the **AA actually take notice, they'll just claim the lower sales obviously are a result of piracy. It's a lose-lose situation.

  48. Re:Who's going to introduce it? by ntk · · Score: 2, Informative

    Feel free to change the existing copy - it's all editable. At this point, making a phone call in the morning is your best bet. There's a sample script on Boing Boing's entry.

    We don't know who will be introducing it. Possibly Senator Ted Stevens, co-sponsor of the Hollings Bill which would have also enforced mandatory DRM.

  49. Re:I looked it up... by QuantumG · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Uhhh, there's these people called accountants who do these things called audits that ensure that donations and such are not in fact bribes. Whereas in the US campaign contributions often go straight into the pocket of the representative. Lemme give you some information that just might make your head spin. In Australia, you might give money to a political party to help them lobby so people vote for them and they might decide that there is no good way for them to spend that money to win the election. In that situation it is common for them to give the money back. Now tell me, does this ever happen in the US?

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  50. Re:The Final Nail by fishbowl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    >The final nail in the coffin.

    Let it die. It might lead to people creating their own entertainment media. Which, of course, turns the equation on its head, as individuals who are content creators acquire whatever magic rights the entertainment industry chiefs presume are their exclusive domain.

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  51. Campaign update. by ntk · · Score: 5, Informative

    I thought everybody should know that you may have just slashdotted the United States Senate Appropriations Committee.

    As of 10PM PST, six hours after news first leaked out, we've reached over 4550 messages sent to the 26 senators on the appropriations committee. The median number of emails and faxes per senator is 64; the average is 150.

    Patty Murray (D-WA) received over 300 from her constituents on the Broadcast Flag. Kay Hutchison (R-TX) has received over 500 mails warning her of the controversial rider. Diane Feinstein (D-CA) has over a thousand faxes sitting in her inbox telling her not to accept any Broadcast Flag amendment.

    And that's not including the telephone calls, which are still continuing.

    Hollywood's first chance to slip in an amendment will be at 2PM EST Tuesday, in the Commerce, Justice and Science. Their next opportunity will be the full committeee mark-up at 2PM EST Thursday.

    We need to keep the pressure up, but I think it's fair to say that so far this rider is not slipping by unnoticed through the halls of Congress.

    If you're in the states below, please call your senator.

    COMMERCE, JUSTICE AND SCIENCE SUB-COMMITTEE AND FULL COMMITTEE MEMBERS

    ALABAMA Senator Richard Shelby (202) 224-5744
    ALASKA Senator Ted Stevens (202) 224-3004
    HAWAII Senator Daniel Inouye (202) 224-3934
    IOWA Senator Tom Harkin (202) 224-3254
    KANSAS Senator Sam Brownback (202) 224-6521
    KENTUCKY Senator Mitch McConnell (202) 224-2541
    MARYLAND Senator Barbara Mikulski (202) 224-4654
    MISSOURI Senator Christopher Bond (202) 224-5721
    NEW HAMPSHIRE Senator Judd Gregg (202) 224-3324
    NEW MEXICO Senator Pete Domenici (202) 224-6621
    NORTH DAKOTA Senator Byron Dorgan (202) 224-2551
    TEXAS Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (202) 224-5922
    VERMONT Senator Patrick Leahy (202) 224-4242
    WASHINGTON Senator Patty Murray (202) 224-2621
    WISCONSIN Senator Herb Kohl (202) 224-5653

    FULL COMMITTEE MEMBERS

    MISSISSIPPI Thad Cochran (202) 224-5054
    PENNSYLVANIA Arlen Specter (202) 224-4254
    MONTANA Conrad Burns (202) 224-2644
    UTAH Robert F. Bennett (202) 224-5444
    IDAHO Larry Craig (202) 224-2752
    OHIO Mike DeWine (202) 224-2315
    COLORADO Wayne Allard (202) 224-5941
    WEST VIRGINIA Robert C. Byrd (202) 224-3954
    NEVADA Harry Reid (202) 224-3542
    CALIFORNIA Dianne Feinstein (202) 224-3841
    ILLINOIS Richard J. Durbin (202) 224-2152
    SOUTH DAKOTA Tim Johnson (202) 224-5842
    LOUISIANA Mary L. Landrieu (202) 224-5824

    A TYPICAL CALL

    "Hello, Senator _________'s office"

    "Hi, I'm a constituent. I'm registering my opposition to
    the broadcast flag amendment being introduced in the
    Senate Commerce Justice and Science Appropriations
    subcommittee mark-up on Tuesday, and in full committee on
    Thursday."

    (*** You can give your own reasons for opposing the flag
    here. Here's a sample: ***)

    "The Broadcast Flag cripples any device capable of
    receiving over-the-air digital broadcasts. It give
    Hollywood movie studios a permanent veto over how members
    of the American public use our televisions. It forces
    American innovators to beg the FCC for permission before
    adding new features to TV. "

    "This is an important issue which will affect all
    Americans, and should not be inserted at the last moment,
    with almost no debate."

    "Please oppose the broadcast flag amendment. My name and
    address are ___________________."

    "Thank you for your time."

  52. Other messages that might be equally appealing by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When writing of calling the senators, rather than just saying how much you dislike the thought of turning over more power to the FCC there's another point you can make that should pull at the heart-strings.

    Remind them of a world of working people working wierd hours - late nights at the mall, night shifts, and the like. These are the forgotten people that all make our lives a little asier that are going to be most screwed by this evil broadcast flag. Not the people of Slashdot who can collectivley hack around most laws, but the bread and butter of each senators voting district who just do thier jobs and don't need the government coming in to tell them what can and cannot be recorded.

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  53. Re:heh by Aussie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    and it said residential calls are not accepted on this voicemail system

    Does this mean that U.S. Senators don't need to take calls from US residents ?

    Could someone explain how this works ? Is this normal in the states ?

    I think I would be a bit concerned if our politicians wouldn't even pretend to listen.

  54. Er... by kahei · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...aren't Libertarians better known for _protecting_ commercial interests than for using government to enforce public rights??

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    Whence? Hence. Whither? Thither.
  55. A centrist party would be supported by both sides. by Colin+Smith · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The way to do it is to start a centrist party. A party which believes in liberalism but with a dash of social justice thrown in, after all for every right there is a corresponding responsibility[1]. It'll take support from both the left and the right.

    [1] Something the founding fathers seem to have forgotten, where's the bill of responsibilities?

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  56. Re:64% voted *against* the UK government by craash420 · · Score: 2, Funny

    73.46% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

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  57. Re:Revolution anyone? by russotto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The system _is_ truly stable. It has adapted to every method for changing it by making those methods ineffective. After 220+ years, it has settled down to stasis; there is no longer any usable mechanism for change for the better.

    Voting doesn't help; you're voting for one member of the existing system, or another of the same, or you're voting for someone who can't win.

    Worse, if you DO manage to vote out the incumbent, the rules of the House and Senate assure he has no real influence until he's been around for a while and therefore has fully aligned his interests with those of the system.

    Letter-writing doesn't work -- such campaigns are often ignored, and those who prefer the status quo can and do mobilize their own campaigns.

    Demonstrations don't work. If they're peaceful, they're ignored. If they're violent, the side opposing the status quo gets blamed. If they're peaceful and too big to be ignored, agents provocateur ensure they become violent, thus discrediting them.

    Civil disobedience doesn't work; the penalties are too high, and once you've been convicted of a felony you've forfeited your political viability within the system -- as well as your chances of even making a decent living. Nobody cares if you're rotting in jail for violating an unjust law; you're just a criminal.

    Even bribery (legalized or otherwise) won't work. Those supporting the status quo have more money. And the campaign finance laws are set up (not coincidentally) to help out the incumbents; those who have the most to gain by maintaining the status quo.

  58. Real American Comanies Innovate, not Legislate by laika$chi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Here is what I sent - including a nice sound bite that anyone could use to attack the root of the MPAAs arguments, very simply. As a constituent and a proponent of innovation, I'm registering my opposition to any Broadcast Flag amendment introduced in the Senate Commerce, Justice, and Science Appropriations subcommittee mark-up on Tuesday, or in full committee on Thursday.

    If you read nothing else, I can summarize this letter with one sentence:

    "Real American Companies Innovate, not Legislate."

    The so-called Broadcast Flag is an abomination and needs to be rejected by the Senate. It will do nothing to stop large-scale piracy, and will only serve to limit the fair-use rights of American citizens to time shift television programs, save them for later viewing or view tv programs at a family member's home. Authorizing the broadcast flag will force innovative consumer electronics companies to ask for Hollywood permission before introducing new products. (Note how quickly the cable industry has approved "Cable Cards" for receiving digital cable, to enable digital-cable-ready TVs - After two years, there is exactly one approved.)

    The history here is clear. Large sheet music companies tried to sue the nascent recording industry out of existence. Radio tried to stop TV. Large media companies tried to sue the VCR out of existence. Only after the Supreme Court ruled in favor of fair use did they realize the revenue stream available to them. They sued the first makers of MP3 players. They sued ReplayTV into bankruptcy because they dared to introduce an innovative product without the MPAA's permission. If the broadcast flag and similar legislative tools had been around for the last 100 years, we wouldn't have the record players, tape decks, television, VCR, iPods, TiVos or computer DVD recorders. These tools have helped democratize content creation, distribution & consumption by putting citizens/customers in charge of their home-made movies, music, and photographs. The media revolution IS the story of American Capitalism at it's best.

    In addition, if recording off-the-air was forbidden, innovative teachers would have had substantially less material for thier class. Many routinely use clips from broadcast documentaries to enliven thier classes. All this would have to bow to the MPAA's desire to protect their old revenue stream.

    Please vote against the Broadcast Flag. It is simply a power grab by the large media companies, intended to protect their current revenue stream, without having to innovate, like every other sucessful American company has to. Send them a message - "Real American Companies Innovate, not Legislate."

    1. Re:Real American Comanies Innovate, not Legislate by dick+johnson · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, real American companies shuffle their assets to offshore companies, then declare bankruptcy.

      Next they void their retiree health benefits and offload employee pensions to the government.

      High-paying jobs remaining in the reorganized company are then sent off to another country where labor costs are lower.

      Finally, they give their CEO and Chairmen multimillion dollar golden parachutes.

      The CEOs ride off into the sunset as rich as can be. The employees are then sent off to work at fast food restaurants where they can rest easy knowing that at least they can be assured that they'll have social security when they get older...

      Oh yeah. Forget that last part.

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  59. There is some mis-interpretation of the flag uses by cjmnews · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1. The broadcast flag is intended for broadcasted content, e.g.: over an antenna. So it really affects only 15% of the market.
    2. The broadcast flag will NOT stop you from recording a show. Your VCR, TIVO, PVR, etc will still work. The uproar of not being able to time shift would be too great for them to kill it. (Obviously)
    3. The broadcast flag WILL stop you from being able to publish a broadcasted show over the Internet.
    4. The TV/Movie industry has methods to stop/track recordings from cable/satellite and their Internet transmissions. In some cases they are not using them, in others they are being developed.
    5. The broadcast flag already exists in the content, the legislation is intended to force the hardware to recognize it. Manufacturers can voluntarily act on it now if they choose. But why would you add a feature (raise cost) if you don't have to. Thus the legislation is needed to get the hardware to do what the TV/Movie industry wants.

    I don't care if it is implemented or not. Yes, I time shift continuously as my kids are not allowed to watch any night time TV. No, I don't get any TV or Movie content from the Internet. If I missed the show I missed it. I'll pick it up in reruns if it is important to me, which generally it is not.

    As for commercial skipping, studies have showed that people that fast forward through commercials have the same retention rate as people that watch them all. Now is this saying that people intelligent enough to program a recording device are smarter than those that can not? I don't know. It's all open to interpretation.

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  60. voting system is to blame by ChristTrekker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're right, Duverger's Law (spoiler effect) is a feature (bug!) of the system itself, not any inherent flaw in the platforms of the minor parties. If we used Condorcet voting (not the same as IRV), every party could stand on its own merit. There would be no advantage inherent in being an incumbent party, or having the perception of being one of the most popular.

    Of course, if everybody voted honestly instead of strategically there wouldn't be a problem either. But since that's awfully hard to do when the system encourages strategic thinking, we ought to change the system so that it encourages honesty. I don't know how we can have truly representative government if the people don't vote how they really think.

    Politics isn't one-dimensional, so why do we think two parties can accurately reflect all political views? Politics is n-dimensional, for the n different issues that have become political. A strong multi-party system where everybody has a representative voice would be a big help.