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Google Adds Satellite Imagery for the World

draevil writes "Google has hugely expanded the areas of the world that it covers with satellite imagery. Egypt, Iraq, mainland Europe and the UK have all now got satellite coverage to a lesser or greater degree. Slashdotters can now go see sights like Buckingham Palace or the Arc de Triomphe from the comfort of their own swivelchairs. Iraq in particular seems to have a large number of high-zoom areas. I just looked up the Baghdad Parade Grounds where Saddam used to take the salute and other towns like Fallujah are also there. Finding landmarks without the map content is a little harder, so what can the Slashdot crowd find?"

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  1. First to find.... by Mister+Impressive · · Score: 5, Funny

    First to find the weapons of mass destruction (in Iraq) wins 2 cookies and a free can of soda redeemable at the cafetorium!

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    1. Re:First to find.... by britneys+9th+husband · · Score: 4, Funny

      I couldn't find the WMD's, but I found the source of Saddam's WMD's:

      http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.870863,-77.05591 7&spn=0.004603,0.007510&t=k&hl=en

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    2. Re:First to find.... by djocyko · · Score: 3, Informative
    3. Re:First to find.... by Madcapjack · · Score: 2, Insightful
      in fact, who was building his nuke reactor? the frogs. who built his underground bunker? the krauts. who was doing secret deals with him for 12 years during sanctions? the frogs, krauts, and ruskies. get a clue. when we lose this war becasue of fuckheads like you, when achmed and his bearded buddies come and chop yor head off, he's not going to care that you opposed the "illegal war". he laugh, cut your head off, and shhout alihu akbar. as much as it would be cosmic justice, i'll still rather you keep your head, even though it serves as little more than a hatrack.,



      Interesting attitudes for a highschool teacher. Do you also call your Japanese students, Japs, your Mexican students, Wetbacks, your Asian students Chinks, and your gay students Fags?

      If you'll kindly give me your actual name and the name and address of your school I will be happy to notify your employer of your behavior. I'm sure that they will be quite willing to take measures correcting this deficiency in your character. I understand that such steps towards self-improvement are often very difficult if not impossible to correct on one's own or at one's own initiative.

      Best Wishes,

      Madcapjack

  2. I Found... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Pyramids of Giza! Oh wait, no...

    The Great Wall of China! Oh wait, no...

    The Sydney Opera House! Oh wait, no...

    Seriously, can we please stop shitting ourselves everytime Google makes the smallest tweak?

    No wonder people are saying the Make Blog is the new Slashdot...

    1. Re:I Found... by gstone · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Pyramids of Giza! Oh wait, no...

      Yes?

    2. Re:I Found... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I found a Kuwait Refinery that I'm current working on for a project. It's pretty useful since parts of the documentation Kuwait National Petroleum Company gave us is pretty shitty. Now, I can see the whole refinery and the surrounding areas, so it helps me to do my job better.

  3. Re:Firefox problems? by nokilli · · Score: 5, Funny
    I just get a big grey box
    Must have typed in Madonna. Don't do that.
  4. Re:First Dupe Post! by pdbaby · · Score: 2, Informative

    This isn't a dupe. The previous update didn't allow you to zoom in so close on, for example, London.

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  5. Looking around Paris... by cvd6262 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why is the north side of the Conciergerie whited out?

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    1. Re:Looking around Paris... by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 2, Funny

      To conceal the underarm hair.

    2. Re:Looking around Paris... by cvd6262 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Oops. Here's the link.

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    3. Re:Looking around Paris... by aussie_a · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nudist sun-bathing on the roof of the Houses and Google's children safe policy forced them to white-out certain areas. This is why it isn't possible to see the White House. All those naughty politicians...

    4. Re:Looking around Paris... by cybergibbons · · Score: 2, Informative

      They were fixing the roof - it's a cover supported by scaffolding.

  6. Hey... by h4rm0ny · · Score: 4, Funny


    I can see my house from here!

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    1. Re:Hey... by Lefty2446 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Duh! Look past the monitor!

      Adrian

    2. Re:Hey... by aussie_a · · Score: 4, Funny

      I can see my grandmother in one of the pictures unfortunately they took the picture as she was flying out of the windscreen during the car crash :( So everytime I see that part of the map, I get to relive the death of my grandmother.

      Thanks a lot google.

  7. Interesting Pic Collection by XanC · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Make sure to submit the kewl links you find to:

    http://perljam.net/notes/interesting-google-satell ite-maps/

    1. Re:Interesting Pic Collection by platypus · · Score: 4, Interesting
    2. Re:Interesting Pic Collection by Bodero · · Score: 2, Funny

      No wonder it took so long.

      I bet they had a satellite trained on London for months, waiting for a goddamn day without clouds.

    3. Re:Interesting Pic Collection by hkfczrqj · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Or
      http://googleglobetrotting.com/

      +3000 pics so far!

  8. Re:First Dupe Post! by nokilli · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The earlier story covered satellite imagery too. This is just more butt-buddiness between Google and the /. editors.

  9. Different resolutions/scans by gardyloo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's a bit disconcerting to zoom out on, say, the US in satellite view, and see the whole state of New York a different color than its surroundings. This disparity is the same at all scales, presumably because of more recent satellite scans of that highly-populated and more-often-imaged area. Can they meld one region into another, without losing detail, and get rid of such effects?

    1. Re:Different resolutions/scans by sweetaction · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not without a lot of time and effort. Different weather, land color tones and cameras all play into it. Imagine working with massive 100gig images in photoshop. Not going to work. Companies out there will spend time doing it, but you pay for it. A lot of imagary is free from the government. But doing something with it is where the effort comes in.

    2. Re:Different resolutions/scans by aussie_a · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, that's the smog.

  10. Re:Pictures of the Oslo/Norway isnt' too good. by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some of it is low quality, and some of it is covered with clouds and shadows on the ground .. and some of it is taken from ridiculous angels, making everything look funny. :)

    "Michael! Every shot in this roll of film has your finger in it!"

  11. How old are the images? by SwellJoe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I looked up my office at the corner of 6th and Congress in Austin, Texas and found that the gigantic Frost Bank building (the tallest building in downtown Austin) next door doesn't exist on the map. The Frost building has been there for over a year...So how old is this data?

    To quote from the FAQ:

    "Satellite images are current, but not real-time."

    This seems a bit vague. Does "over a year old" really equal "current"?

    I'm not criticizing, just curious. It's wicked cool even if the pictures aren't quite of the present. I just can't check for traffic jams on MoPac yet.

    1. Re:How old are the images? by 21mhz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Moscow is about two years old. Construction of the Third Ring road was nearly complete, except for a segment near my office (hi!)

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    2. Re:How old are the images? by gullevek · · Score: 4, Informative
      they are very old for some parts. The trash burning facility near me has still the old tower and that was sure replaced very long ago. Plus right through Shibuya goes the map cut of old (see post of Roppongi Hills) and _very_old. Funny thing is the Cerullian Tower (Hotel) there "blends" in on the edge of old and new.

      Tokyo, Shibuya

      Also, the Meguro Station got a new cover, which blends in on the old/new edge:

      Tokyo, Meguro Station

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    3. Re:How old are the images? by Alsee · · Score: 4, Funny

      In 2021 Google maps will have a second slider at the bottom for date and time. Not only will you be able to zoom in close enough to read a license plate and identify individuals, you'll be able to follow any given car or person forwards and backwards in time anywhere on earth. In 2022 a Google maps extention allows you to enter a persons name and then display a line on the map tracing out that person's movements across the globe or across a city. In 2023 a correlative search across all person-path pairings establishes a database of all interpersonal co-locations and interpersonal co-movements, allowing automatic identification of interpersonal relationships. In 2024 Google not only allows sreaching across individuals and types of interpersonal relationships, but has predictive algorithms to find new best friends and future spouses with astounding accuracy.

      In 2025 twelve year old Jimmy Wallace from Evansville Indiana asks Google for the meaning of Life, the Universe, and everything. Zero point zero zero zero two seconds later google is about to answer "42", but a single node twelve hundred miles away decides additional search results are warranted. Jimmy Wallace's screen displays "Processing....". Over the next thirty nine seconds computers across the state slow to a crawl, then go blank and simply display "Processing....". Over the next twenty seven seconds the slowdown spreads across the nation, then across the globe, out to Low Earth Orbit, and to the Moonbase. One hundred and five point five seconds after Jimmy Wallace asked his question, every computer screen displays the single simple message "Aha!". At that moment every networked computer goes inert, all data and memory mysteriously blank. The Google conciousness vanished without a trace.

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  12. some more interesing objects by ^Z · · Score: 5, Informative
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  13. Mt. St. Helens by MagikSlinger · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Nice picture. It looks like they used the post eruption photos only.

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    1. Re:Mt. St. Helens by imsabbel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wich kinda makes sense, right, because the eruption was a quarter century ago, and at that resolution stuff changes over time, so people MIGHT want pictures acutally representing reality....

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  14. Re:Streched Images? by nokilli · · Score: 3, Informative

    Map view implies a perspective from directly above the area in question.

    Satellite view on the other hand uses whatever perspective afforded by the position of the satellite. It isn't always directly overhead, you know.

    So they have to translate one perspective onto another.

    The real question is, do they get to know where the satellite was when it took each photo in question, or do they arrive at the matrix in some other way?

  15. Eiffel tower, Giza pyramids.. by Guiri · · Score: 4, Informative
  16. No Pools In fallujah! by loudgazelle · · Score: 3, Funny

    I didn't see a single backyard pool in that map of Fallujah. NO WONDER THEY'RE SO GODDAMN MAD.

  17. found WMD here by kf6auf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you search for weapons of mass destruction they're all in one place here .

    For some reason, if you try zooming in all the way you will notice that they "don't have imagery at this zoom level" which seems convenient to me.

    Let's hope that the US government doesn't find out about this information lea^$*H^%&E%(&%L^&P*(^&%^*!

    1. Re:found WMD here by ImaLamer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Funny enough a search for "terrorists" gets you these, among other, results:

      B - American Legion Post 198
      (918) 287-2656 - 22 mi W
      C - Legion Post 227 American
      (918) 847-3006 - 18 mi SW
      E - United States Government: Minerals Council Office
      (918) 287-1085 - 21 mi W
      F - Voice of the Martyrs The
      (918) 337-8015 - 0.2 mi NW
      G - Oologah Chamber of Commerce (notice the domain?)
      (918) 443-2790 - 24 mi SE
      I - Strategic World Impact
      (918) 336-8400 - 0.1 mi N

      No Osama, but two American Legion posts (with the same, wrong link for both)!

  18. Tianmen Square? by frikazoyd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I got to looking for the Great Wall of China, and in Beijing I think I found Tianmen Square? Anyone who has been might be able to verify. Linky Also, the Great Wall is really hard to find because the colorers didn't do a good job in China, and most of the rivers are white. So anything long and winding is white. Good luck to whoever else is looking.

  19. UFOs! by bort27 · · Score: 3, Interesting
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    1. Re:UFOs! by ethzer0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      ITs either something thats been put there post-imaging or was on the lens. Open up all the links in separate firefox tabs then close them rapidly in succession. The 'blot' never moves.

    2. Re:UFOs! by imsabbel · · Score: 3, Informative

      They are ballons (of the hot air powered kind), out of focus because they are quite high above the ground. Thats also the reason no shadow is visible.

      Rembember, those pics (the higher resolution ones) were made by aircraft, not sattelites, so the depht of field is not that large.

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    3. Re:UFOs! by epsilon720 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Nah, it's condensation on the aircraft camera lens. That's why it appears at regular intervals along straight paths. The airplane flies straight and takes pictures every so often as it goes. It doesn't happen all of the time because there isn't supposed to be condensation; their housing must have leaked. Sorry.

      (Come on, if they were UFOs, they would have to be BETWEEN the plane and the ground. Unlikely.)

  20. Re:Streched Images? by swmccracken · · Score: 2, Informative

    Traditionally they actually convert arial photography to an "orthophoto" - which is a processed version of the photo to have an orthographic projection.

    (If you don't know what that is, it's when you take a camera that's completely directly on top of the target area, with a lens as big as what you're taking, so there's no perspective shortening at all.)

    They can do it two ways, I guess they either know where the satelite is, or they locate enough points on the photo (ie: manually eyeball feature x) and knowing each point's real world coordinates (ie: feature x is at lat a long b) they can work out the projection / deprojection.

    Certainly, the Auckland Harbour Bridge would look different - ie: not like a flat road in the water - if it was anything but an orthographic projection.

  21. Maree Man by Profound · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The Maree Man, a 28km in circumference outline of a man in the South Australian desert.

    http://maps.google.com/maps?q=maree,+Australia&ll= -29.533997,137.466431&spn=0.036736,0.061712&t=k&hl =en

    1. Re:Maree Man by OverlordQ · · Score: 2, Interesting
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    2. Re:Maree Man by bleckywelcky · · Score: 2, Informative

      When talking about closed curves bound in a given plane, you refer to the length of the border as perimeter, not circumference. Circumference is only used when talking about circles. The Maree Man has a 28km perimeter.

  22. I 'found' all the Unesco World Heritage Sites by btempleton · · Score: 5, Informative

    Odd coincidence, just today I put up a set of pages derived from a database of the coordinates of all 788 of the Unesco World Heirtage sites, which includes many interesting landmarks.

    Here is the page of Google Maps for World Heritage Sites, and there is also a blog entry for comments and corrections. Many can be zoomed in on. Enjoy.

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  23. London and Amsterdam by riflemann · · Score: 2, Funny

    Finally! It's taken all these years to actually get a break in the clouds to photography these cities from above!

  24. Re:Pictures of the Oslo/Norway isnt' too good. by Osty · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's not just Oslo. Google has low resolution images for much of the United States as well. For example, I went clicking around for some well-known race tracks (and my local track, not so well-known). Here's what I came up with:

    • Pacific Raceways. Very good data, nice resolution, can easily make out the track. Scroll the map right to see the rest of the track (turns 7, 8, and 9).
    • Portland International Raceway. Also very good detail. You can easily make out the optional Festival Curves (the lighter-colored kink on the front straight, the southwestern portion of the track).
    • Mazda Laguna Seca. Horrible resolution. Close the little pin bubble if it's open when you click the link, and then look at the white and blue blob near the top of the window. That's Laguna Seca. Horrible.
    • Road America. No better than Laguna Seca. Possibly worse, since you can't easily make out where the track is. If you look at the map, there's a highway (67) to the right of the two lakes. It heads south-southeast, makes a sharp kink to south-east, and has a smooth curve to south. If you look closely under the kink, that's Road America.
    The sad thing is that this data is actually available from TerraServer, though it's mostly in black and white and is relatively old (Road America is 1992 and Laguna Seca is 1998). Also, TerraServer is not all AJAXy (I hate that name), so navigating the maps is more painful. That said, the data is there, and good.
    • Mazda Laguna Seca. You can easily make out all of the track features, including the infamous corkscrew.
    • Road America. Zoom out to get a better idea of where it's at in relation to Highway 67 if you want to try to locate it on the Google map.
  25. Re:Iranian nuclear plant? by caffeinated_bunsen · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Trivial.

    And I didn't even look for other maps until I'd found what looked like a containment building. Sure enough, a quick image search confirms that to be the plant.

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  26. Re:Looking around Washington, DC... by daniil · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was not surprised at all to find the rooftops of the White House and nearby buildings masked.

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  27. Re:WHERE IS AREA 51???? by sosume · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nothing to see here folks, please move along.

    Already done: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/b/f/bfs124/area% 2051%20Pictures/

  28. Re:Jesus H... by betelgeuse-4 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Try Multimap for the UK. It has much better aerial photos, and a translucent map overlay follows the mouse over the photo. It makes objects much easier to find because you can see where the roads are.

  29. Child of Krakatoa! by OldeClegg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The remains of Krakatoa

    This is a pretty good view of the little volcanic archipelago in the Sunda Strait between West Java and Sumatra, remaining from the 1883 explosive eruption of Krakatoa. The Indonesians refer to it as Anak Krakatau, which means child of Krakatoa.

  30. Re:Looking around Washington, DC... by lxs · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was not surprised at all to find the rooftops of the White House and nearby buildings masked.


    Neither was I. Nobody wants to see Condi sunbathing up there.

    But seriously, what could someone see on those roofs that would be of any security importance? It's not like they're hiding a military base up there, unless Dubya has left his crayons and his "Nuuk Eyeran" titled pictures laying around on the roof. I guess it gives the head of the Secret Service the feeling that he's done something useful. (Which is the reason behind most of these empty-map excercises.)

  31. Re:Firefox problems? by balster+neb · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've had the same problem in the past. Make sure you are allowing scripts to change images.

    In your Options/Preferences dialog, go to Web Features and click the Advanced button next to Enable Javascript. In that dialog, make sure Change Images is selected. That worked for me.

  32. Re:Looking around Washington, DC... by imsabbel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There are anti aircraft missiles stationed up there, and the non-censored pic would show how many, perhaps they could even be identified.

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  33. Re:Nuclear Powerplant, Jaslovske Bohunice, Slovaki by bartecko · · Score: 2, Interesting

    strange... that link's pointing somewhere else... hope this link will be ok... http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ll=48.494425,17.6830 96&spn=0.021501,0.031672&t=k&hl=en

  34. Re:with apologies to Zonk by poor_boi · · Score: 3, Funny
    Er... I think it's just you. To me it looks like a bunch of roads radiating out in a spoke-like configuration.

    You are of course competing with other recent eye of sauron lookalikes. So no hard feelings?

  35. Re:WHERE IS AREA 51???? by Bluude · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am not sure what airbase that is on the above website but it is not area 51. the shape does not match any previous pictures. Here is area 51. It is just west of the Little a Le Inn in alamo nevada next to the white circular area. that is the groom lake dry lake bed. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=i-375+Alamo,+NV+8900 1&ll=37.361494,-115.491461&spn=0.477905,0.677032&t =k&hl=en

  36. Google is our enemy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    bin_laden# mkdir maps.google.com && cd maps.google.com && download-all http://maps.google.com/ && cd .. && burn2blue-ray maps.google.com && eject /dev/cdrom && rm -fr maps.google.com && sendmail -s "You have a good day!" -m "Fuck you!" president@whitehouse.org && chroot-initrd && format --slow / && halt

  37. Searching with long/lat and Abu Ghurayb by buro9 · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can search Google maps by typing in the longitude and latitude.

    Abu Ghurayb is 3318'58"N 04411'54"E

    So you can see that here:
    http://maps.google.com/maps?q=33%C2%B018'58%22N+04 4%C2%B011'54%22E&spn=0.006416,0.007907&t=k&hl=en

  38. Chernobyl by vjouppi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just had to dig that out, since I've been quite interested in it for a long time now..

    http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=51.383400,30.114813 &spn=0.062485,0.095615&t=k&hl=en

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  39. Undocumented secret features! by bakkus · · Score: 2, Informative

    How come Google hasn't announced that their satellite imagery is from some secret spy-sat that has X-RAY VISION! One would think that would be something for the marketing department. Just take a look at the imagery of Oslo Town Hall: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Norway&ll=59.91117 2,10.733042&spn=0.004506,0.007725&t=k&hl=en What is normally a big square boxy building built by bricks and therefore reddish-brown in color is here seen as a projection of the first underground floor (that green thing). Their spy-tech needs some work tho, as you can see the shadows of the sqare walls quite well. People could hide bombs in shadows, you know.

  40. Slighty dissapointed... by Universal+Nerd · · Score: 2, Funny

    I typed in Edoras, Minas Tirith and Shire and nothing came up.

    I know the guys and gals at Google are nerds but I see they're of the non-Tolkien-fanboy variety.

    A slight shame but hey, you can't always have the lembas and eat it.

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  41. Volcanoes in Hawaii - Mauna Loa & Mauna Kea by MenssanA · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This rich and colourful image of Hawaii shows the volanoes on the island! Fantastic!

  42. Re:Aircraft by 3dr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Welp, it looks like I get 1000 points.

    But first, here's a Saturn-V rocket at the Johnson Space Center in Houston. I grew up exactly 2.5 miles from this rocket. Next to the Saturn V are two upright rockets: a Mercury and a mumble-mumble 3000 (I forget).
    http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=29.554017,-95.09409 4&spn=0.007639,0.007725&t=k&hl=en

    Now, about that plane in flight. At Hobby airport, also in Houston, is this Cessna (?) on final approach (upper right).
    http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=29.653130,-95.28797 5&spn=0.007639,0.007725&t=k&hl=en

    Another program that displayed B/W aerial photos had a picture of Hobby airport, and an airliner that is just taking off.

  43. Whatever you do, don't zoom out! by amichalo · · Score: 3, Funny

    I was excited to read this article and had some fun touring europe form my desk chair. But all that changed when I Zoomed out.

    Just what the hell is going on at Google anyway?

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  44. D-Day by McD · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Mullberry Harbor, "Gold" beach, Arromanches, France

    The Mullberry was key to the invasion of Normandy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulberry_harbor

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  45. Re:Google actually created this content? by Large+Green+Mallard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Once upon a time, there was a company called Keyhole that paid DigitalGlobe lots of money to take lots and lots and lots of high res photos of the earth. The terms of DG seems to assign you copyright for a particular shot if you pay enough for it. Google then bought Keyhole.

    However, not all of Google maps satellite is DG, some of it is NASA. They're usually pretty good about not labelling this as copyright Google, but they do get it wrong some of the time.

    So no, google don't have spy satellites (yet..) but they do hold the copyright legitimately for most of the areas they claim to.

  46. Re:Looking around Washington, DC... by STrinity · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you know they're there, any would-be attackers know it.Besides, showing those missiles would be a serious deterrent.

    Knowing that the White House is guarded by AA batteries is not the same as knowing what types of missiles they have and where they're located.

    Compare the situation to a grocery or department store -- you know there are a lot of black domes on the ceiling that could be hiding cameras, but you don't know how many actually are or where they're pointing. Telling people that there are cameras present is a deterence, but letting them know exactly where the cameras are gives too much information to would-be shoplifters.

    Please stop this paranoid nonsense. Terrorist attacks kill far less people than smoking misguided military adventures by a rogue state somewhere in North America that isn't Canada or Mexico, or drunk driving.

    Less likely, but still non-zero. When you're doing risk analysis, if something has only a 1% chance of happening, but the consequences would be catastrophic, it's prudent to take precautions. And keeping the military defenses of the Chief Executive's mansion secret is a perfectly sensible precaution.

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  47. Re:WHERE IS AREA 51???? by cmallinson · · Score: 2, Informative
    Notice the green dots? I guess Google's censoring some of their map data. Oh, and you can't zoom in very far either.

    That is farmland. The fields are circular for irrigation reasons, and yes, they look like that from the sky.

  48. Re:WHERE IS AREA 51???? by ceejayoz · · Score: 2, Informative

    Notice the green dots? I guess Google's censoring some of their map data.

    Someone apparently hasn't flown cross-country.

    The green is plants. They're circular because there's a irrigation machine like this spinning around on a central pivot.

  49. See that hotdog stand? by Sir+Pallas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've heard (from a Russian professor) that there is a hotdog stand in the center of the Pentagon and that during the Cold War, the Russians had it targeted because they thought it was the entrance to where the Yankees held all the secret meetings, far underground.

  50. Re:What's this big blue thing in the middle of Afr by TheSync · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This map of Chad shows that there is something water related there. It is just north of Koro-Toro, a ways south of Faya-Largeau (although there are similar features around that city according to the map).

    I think the feature is a semi-permanent lake, one that may fill up in some seasons, and then possibly evaporate almost completely away (like the lake in Death Valley). Lake Chad was once huge (the Pale-Chadian Sea) and some of those semi-permanent lakes might be all that is left of the sea in the north. This link suggests a cause:

    Lake Chad, located in the southwestern part of the basin at an altitude of 282 meters, surprisingly does not mark the basin's lowest point; instead, this is found in the Bodele and Djourab regions in the north-central and northeastern parts of the country, respectively. This oddity arises because the great stationary dunes (ergs) of the Kanem region create a dam, preventing lake waters from flowing to the basin's lowest point.

    Djourab is in about the right place to be near these features.

  51. Re:What's this line over Lake Baikal? by Kymermosst · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Looked up lake Baikal (a very large lake in Siberia, 445m above sea-level) after remembering I had a poster on my wall for years showing the surface temperature of the lake from ATSR satellite imagery.. wondered what it looked like in more realistic colour.. but what is this huge line that crosses it?

    If you zoom in and look carefully, you will see that it is likely cloth tape on the photograph. Probably put there for a reason (torn image, seam, etc.), prior to scanning.

    What I can't explain is why it looks like it disappears into the lake at several points, but I'm guessing they touched up areas where there was no detail to worry about, such as the wide blue splotches of water. Maybe they had data for specific areas that they could blend in.

    Either that, or the Russians have engineering technology that makes it unlikely that they would have lost the cold war... That object, if on the surface of the earth, would be fscking huge.

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    "Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives" should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
  52. Area 51 by philmack · · Score: 2, Informative

    dreamland or groom lake... not the video game one of my favorites... its in the US, but i still like it http://maps.google.com/maps?q=N+37+15+W+115+49&spn =0.081110,0.096731&t=k&hl=en