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Google Earth Launching For Free

Nathan Weinberg writes "Google launches Keyhole 3 today, rebranded Google Earth, and are dumping the subscription rate (except for a $20/year "plus" versions with prettier pictures) available soon at earth.google.com. The program lets you fly around a 3D globe, with overhead satellite photos, tilted 45-degree photos, 3D rendered buildings, and overlays that display everything from roads to hotels to bike routes. I have a lot of info and screenshots at InsideGoogle, and Search Engine Watch has a big writeup. With yesterday's Google Video release, this is shaping up to be a major week for the search giant."

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  1. Linux by bcmm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone tested this in Wine (or something with better 3D support like Cedega) yet? Any luck?

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    1. Re:Linux by budgenator · · Score: 2, Informative

      won't run under wine on my machine, but I didn't expect it to, when a page talks about what video cards it runs with you can be pretty sure an OS emulator is out of the question.

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    2. Re:Linux by gabebear · · Score: 2, Informative

      No go on my machine (Debian Sarge)

      The installer failed with regular Wine, with WineX 3.3-1 it installed but still wouldn't run.

      Since they are working on a Mac version I imagine they will also at least look into releasing a Linux port.

    3. Re:Linux by dboli42 · · Score: 4, Informative

      It works under wine!!!! Version 20050111-r1. I had to switch to fluxbox after it repeatedly crashed kde, it uses qt so maybe that was problems, its also somewhat unstable and requires working opengl

    4. Re:Linux by Dave2+Wickham · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't see why it should be out of the question; Wine ran Doom 3 (with some slight graphical glitches), for example.

  2. Corrupted download by winkydink · · Score: 2, Funny

    I get a CRC error when I try to unpack the .exe

    Yeah, yeah, yeah... I know. IT'S BEEEEEETAAAAA.

    Google should change their logo to put that little Beta under the 'le'.

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    1. Re:Corrupted download by winkydink · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh yeah, that's right, I forget. I signed up for the UDP-only connection. Sheesh.

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  3. Wow! by drewzhrodague · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Looks like we need to take advantage of this to plot Wi-Fi Everywhere. Rock on, guys, see you at the next interview interval.

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  4. Better by m85476585 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is like NASA World Wind, but better.

    1. Re:Better by anhdres · · Score: 2, Informative

      i'm not in the US, but in southamerica, and world wind has better names and locators for worldwide locations of towns, minor cities, lakes, etc.

    2. Re:Better by The+Bungi · · Score: 2, Funny

      Whoa, I'm sold.

    3. Re:Better by samtihen · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree about the streaming. It doesn't seem right to me that Keyhole, now Google Earth, loads more slowly than Google Maps. They clearly use the same map data in almost all cases. And in some cases, I even like the Google Maps interface better. For instance, the 'double-click to center' seems easier than the Google Earth 'double-click to center and zoom'.

      However, Google Earth does have some serious advantages in altitude sensitive data. I like being able to see what elevation my mouse curser is at, for instance.

      Additionally, Google Earth has the much needed city and road data for the rest of the world, which I would like to see incorporated into Google Maps as well.

    4. Re:Better by dubstar · · Score: 2, Informative

      Streaming the data to your computer would have to be slower than to a localized web server, since it has to traverse the net. I think there is probably more optional data involved in the streaming version as well (topography, etc).

      ...could be a bit of the slashdot effect too.

    5. Re:Better by Transcendent · · Score: 2, Informative

      Frankly, it's downloading more data.... that's why it is slower. It's also loading the data level by level instead of the instantaneous selected view level for a given area, which of course is slower.

      Once you have the cache on your computer, this program is great... especially for free.

      Remember... this is free... you can't get everything for free.

    6. Re:Better by stg · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have to agree, at least as far as labels go. But at least in maps.google.com, you can get very high-resolution images of Brazil:

      http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-23.547585,-46.6650 51&spn=0.005375,0.007918&t=k&hl=en

      I'm not sure how high is the resolution of this, but I imagine it's a couple of meters. WorldWind only had 15-meter stuff for those locations... A *huge* difference.

      I've been told that these Google images are a lot newer, too.

      Obviously those are only available in *very* selected areas, though.

    7. Re:Better by shellbeach · · Score: 2, Informative

      It is like NASA World Wind, but better.

      Except for one tiny little issue that I'm surprised no one on this site has picked up on: World Wind is open source, whereas Google Earth is not.

      I've been playing around with World Wind for a while, and it's just fantastic stuff. I'll take the OSS solution any day ...

    8. Re:Better by Transcendent · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Turning of the elevation feature didn't speed it up so either that's not it, or the streaming technology is ineffecient.

      Turning off the elevation mapping should speed it up anyway... but without measurements there's no point in arguing that point.

      On a larger, empirical argument that has more value, there's more to it than elevation... the elevation would be simple anyway since it's usually just a monochrome bitmap (well, compressed)... no color data. Like I said befure, there's more data. Street dynamics, names, multiple resolution levels for the textures (the most complex part)... all at once. With Google maps, you just download an image for the exact zoom level you are at.

      If you haven't noticed, it does download multiple resolutions before you get your final result. This is what is slowing it down.

      When I said it was free, I was making a point that you can't expect a compilation of the entire world for free... they'd have to increase their current storage (at least) capacity by more than an order of magnitude.

    9. Re:Better by anhdres · · Score: 2, Informative

      Oh that's true. For the labels, and for Argentina (that's what I can account for) it's totally right. Google's isn't that intuitive for searching locations there, and lacks a lot (most) of info and place names. I thinks it's logical, as it isn't much of an important hotspot for Google. The images looks great on Buenos Aires for example, except for some squares that has very (very) poor resolution, but leaving that mayor cities it gets poorer fast. Anyway, it's free, and it's going to change the way we do lots of things in the close future no doubt about it, as services begin to apply to it on worldwide locations as it does in the US, for example.

    10. Re:Better by stg · · Score: 3, Interesting


      I'm playing with Google Earth now. I'm currently on dial-up, and it's still usable, as long as you are very patient :-) .

      It does have quite a few labels in Brazil, and it has a neat feature with user-added places in the BBS (looks like they decided to go retro instead of just calling a forum). There are already a few in Brazil.

      Should be very neat, as long as people don't start spamming it!

      BTW, I've used the trial of Keyhole LT, and Google's free version seem much nicer... A year ago, their trial didn't have *anything* on Brazil, too - not even Landsat-7's 15 meter images, just the default NASA Visible World images.

      WorldWind is likely to take a big hit in popularity - the tiny download of Google Earth (10mb vs WW 200mb) is likely to be a major factor to some... Google's servers can also run circles around NASAs.

      Too bad for the custom apps - WW being open source gave it a huge advantage there...

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  6. Wow by sosume · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is the best web application I have seen for years. Now I will be able top spy on my neighbours from the other side of the house!

  7. No linux interface.. by clueless123 · · Score: 2, Informative

    C'mon...

  8. Yeah... by Svartalf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Google, you're all about Linux- why can't ya come up with a Linux (and a MacOS X) version, hm?

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    1. Re:Yeah... by diegocgteleline.es · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They bought this software to another company, they didn't started it from scratch. So, I find reasonable that they are focusing on getting the first release out, then consider porting to another platforms...it's possible that the software depends too much in windows-specific things to be ported to linux at all.

  9. No Mac support? by illtron · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Aw man, c'mon Google!

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    1. Re:No Mac support? by ink_polaroid · · Score: 2, Informative
  10. This is amazing by Otik2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wow, this is great. The images are better than what they have for Google Maps, at least for my house (I can zoom in a lot farther). And the tilting and rotating are really fun. They have a few famous sightseeing places included by default, and just rotating and zooming around the Three Sisters or Yosemite was almost breathtaking. Integrating with their direction and local services is probably a good idea, though I doubt I'll use it much, but the images themselves are very well done. Good job, Google.

  11. Been using often this morning.... by doormat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Its actually pretty addictive for a GIS geek like myself. Plus it was neat to have it help me plan my camping trip this weekend.

    It totally blows away any geographical user interface ESRI or Autodesk or anyone else has. They should be embarrassed with their current ArcIMS and MapGuide products - such rudimentary interfaces and poor performance.

    Whats even more interesting is the Google Earth Enterprise suite. Being able to load my own satellite data and GIS data into this would be interesting. But like I've said before in other posts about google maps, the biggest problem for GIS groups would be the lack of an "Identify" tool (perhaps its there but I havent seen it in any of the screenshots). And still no scale bar at the bottom either, though they do have a north arrow.

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    1. Re:Been using often this morning.... by Nilmat · · Score: 2, Insightful
      As far as functionality is concerned, actually, ESRI and others have been able to do everything that Google Earth does since back in the days of ArcView 3.x. I remember putting together a 3D flythrough of the Presidential Range in New Hampshire with satellite imagery draped on top as well as some friends creating a map of my college campus using 3-D buildings.

      The two major innovations in Google Earth, as far as I'm concerned, are the massive amount of data available with no effort and the fact that anyone can use it without knowing anything about GIS per se.

  12. Yet again no *nix version. by caluml · · Score: 4, Informative
    Minimum configuration:

    * Operating system: Windows 2000, Windows XP
    * CPU speed: Intel® Pentium® PIII 500 MHz
    * System memory (RAM): 128MB
    * 200MB hard-disk space
    * 3D graphics card: 3D-capable video card with 16MB VRAM
    * 1024x768, 32-bit true color screen
    * Network speed: 128 kbps ("Broadband/Cable Internet")
    I/m getting a little tired of Google completely forgetting the numerous Linux and Unix users.
    1. Re:Yet again no *nix version. by savagedome · · Score: 4, Funny

      You got it backwards. Google knows the penchant Windows users have for pretty pictures. That's why, all this 3D and 45degree angle jazz is for those snobbish Windows users. For us Unix and Linux people, Google will release a tool that will allow us to draw our own buildings on Earth. I say that will kick ass!

    2. Re:Yet again no *nix version. by iluvcapra · · Score: 2, Informative

      They're "working on" a Mac OS X version, but that's all they mention, so far.

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    3. Re:Yet again no *nix version. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are these the same "numerous linux users" with 3D cards that are supported by the manufacturer? Oh that's right there aren't any.

      The amount of time they'd have to spend trying to get it to run on just a small segment of linux desktops that might have a nvidia card, that might have the latest X.org, that might have the latest closed sourced drivers. They could add a ton of functionality to the windoze version AND make an OS X version.

      Let's please try and stay in reality people.

    4. Re:Yet again no *nix version. by zero-one · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Based on Google's most recent published operating system statisics* they could make their software available to many more users by producing a version for Windows 95 or "Other" before making a Linux version.

      (* obviously June '04 was a while ago but I doubt the statistics have changed much)

    5. Re:Yet again no *nix version. by Le+Marteau · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah! How dumb can Google be? The first day they offer their beta service, and what do they go for first? Windows! Go figure! They're not going to make any money with THAT kind of thinking! Everybody KNOWS it's the Linux community which is the one to go to when you are a for-profit entity.

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    6. Re:Yet again no *nix version. by TheCabal · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ask- no, DEMAND- for your money back.

    7. Re:Yet again no *nix version. by zaphod123 · · Score: 2, Funny

      It takes quite a while to convert all of the maps to ascii. :)

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  13. Re:examples of 3D buildings? by wjsteele · · Score: 2, Informative

    New York is full of them. Just use the Shift-Arrow combinations to tilt the view.

    Bill

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  14. Re:Recommended configuration by Evangelion · · Score: 2, Funny

    You get 512M in cereal boxes these days.

  15. Does it supports GPSbabel/GSAK by Stavr0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    painting waypoint, tracks and routes over the maps?

    1. Re:Does it supports GPSbabel/GSAK by Stavr0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just answered my own question: Directory of C:\Program Files\Google\Google Earth Plus

      2005-06-25 15:15 434 241 GoogleEarth.exe
      2005-06-20 15:00 368 640 gpsbabel.exe
      2 File(s) 802 881 bytes
      gram Files\Google\Google Earth Plus

  16. For this and other google news... by Sebastian+Jansson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, I guess Slashdot already have a quite complete coverage of Google stuff, but if you wan't to beat the rush for some hours I recommend the Google Blog (with RSS)

  17. Hell Building Instead Of Planet Building... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Won't be long before someone comes up with a version of Hell. Oh, wait a minute. I forgot that AOL cornered that market. I'm sure Microsoft is working on something, and an open source version shouldn't be too far behind. Although it's a bit hard to improve on hot, hotter, and hottest.

  18. Google FAQ Question #1. by mcg1969 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Q: How can Google afford to give away so much for free?

    A: Volume.

  19. Patents by VanWEric · · Score: 2, Funny

    I believe Google is infringing on prior art on the whole "Earth" thing. They are attempting to rebrand it, push it as an original and then patent it away from the original creator - God.

    God will soon be unable to continue providing his "competing" Earth service due to rigorous patent laws, and everyone will PERISH - All because Google has the legal power to take a page from MS's book and assert that it was their idea in the first place.

    Please contact your local congress(wo)man today and let hir know of this nefarious plot.

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  20. Re:examples of 3D buildings? by BandwidthHog · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have been unable to find examples of 3D buildings - anyone else have luck?

    My town is littered with them. In fact, I'm sitting in one right now. They should be pretty easy to spot; a good rule of thumb is that if something is tall enough to trip over, it's 3D.

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  21. Pilots: Flight Approaches by The_Pey · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wow,

    What a great way to visualize approaches to airports you haven't been to before. Just go to the airport you want, tilt the view angle and line up on the runway and you've got a perfect perspective of what the surrounding environs look like. No more trying to blindly search for the airport as you go to a new one. You can research ahead of time and get all your landmarks down pat!

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  22. about time /. posted this by TimeSpeak · · Score: 2, Funny

    somthing about Google and Earth in the same URL excites me.

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  23. How long will this last? by DownTownMT · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Is it just me, or does anyone else wonder how long this service will be available to the general public for free?

    I can see the Dept of Homeland Security not liking this project one bit as anyone anywhere can get the layouts of every city and street with a broadband connection.

    Don't get me wrong, I think this is a great tool, but i feel it won't exist without debate.

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    1. Re:How long will this last? by Bandman · · Score: 2, Funny

      why does Rand McNally hate democracy?

  24. Re:Now all I need... by Momoru · · Score: 2, Informative

    Its not Google branded, but you can tie into a GPS with Google Earth Pro.

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  26. Untethered Version?? by yellowbkpk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know this is really just a pipe dream because Google wouldn't do it, but I could see this being very useful in a car computer application. I have been doing some heavy duty searching and there just isn't a good app for in-car navigation available to the general public.

    If Google allowed you to cache their street data and then project colors over the topo maps instead of the "streaming" satellite images, this would be a killer navigation aid for in-car usage. Point of Interest and Address data could be stored in a few gigabytes (they do it on DVDs nowadays) on a harddrive and updated every night when you drive in to the garage (over Wifi).

    Hackers...take your mark, get set, GO!

    1. Re:Untethered Version?? by KeyholeSeer · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Google Earth Plus version *does* work in offline mode, displaying data from the local disk-cache. If you upgrade to Plus, set you cache size to maximum (500MB), and then create placemarks for your waypoints, you will be able to revisit the same areas when operating in offline mode.

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  27. Re:examples of 3D buildings? by CausticPuppy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Atlanta has them.

    Also, after installing it, it seemed that 3D Buildings is turned off by default. Make sure that option is checked in the left-hand option pane.

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  28. M O O N, that spells "moon" ... by aggiefalcon01 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I like the map & satellite imagery Google has given for the Earth. My question: why stop there?

    Okay, so you see the "Map" and "Satellite" links in the upper right ... why not include ... "Moon" as well? In fact, we have the imagery for other celestial orbs ... why not Mars? Mercury?

    In short, why stop at Google Earth?

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    1. Re:M O O N, that spells "moon" ... by s-orbital · · Score: 2, Informative

      What you want is Celestia. It does exactly what you are looking for, even including dozens of recently discovered extrasolar planets!

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  29. Google offers a refund to Keyhole subscribers by Sprotch · · Score: 3, Informative

    Should you consider that the "plus" version is not worth the 30 USD you shelled out for it three days ago, Google offers you a refund. The refund is pro-rated according to the number of months of the year you have been using your subscription.

    Here

  30. Edit by Nathan+Weinberg · · Score: 3, Informative

    I think it goes without saying that I wish I could update TFA. When I wrote it at 1 AM, 13 hours before it hit /., Earth hadn't yet been uploaded to the web, so "launching" in the title and "available soon" in the article haven't been accurate for many hours. Also, I would have mentioned the enterprise versions of Earth, which can cost a butt-load of money for those interested.

  31. Re:Terrorism??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...but doesn't this promote terrorism to a certain extent?

    Since you posted this as a reply to the What about Linux? thread, it seems reasonable to assume that Google has already thought of this and they deduced that terrorists don't use Windows.

  32. Good God, PLEASE STFU by vectorian798 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I am pissed off that everytime something innovative comes out, someone has to be a token Slashdot user and say 'No Linux Version' or 'No *nix? This sucks' or whatever other equivalent you can pull out of Slashdot's archives.

    I was checking out the comments on Threshold 5 and was surprised to find half the comments along these same lines!!!

    This is a FREE PROGRAM. It is FREE. It is also damn innovative, one of a kind (well...not quite, but for the features it has, definitely), and they even took the time to make it run on DirectX and OpenGL.

    My gut instinct tells me that there will be a Linux Port sometime - it's in freakin' beta people quit your bitching.

    Even if there isn't a linux port, you shouldn't be complaining because someone has to take the time to code all that - are you willing to go put in the time and do that work? I thought not. Now shut up while I go fly through San Francisco checking out Google Earth's awesomeness in 3D.

    1. Re:Good God, PLEASE STFU by Panoramix · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I am pissed off that everytime something innovative comes out, someone has to be a token Slashdot user and say 'No Linux Version' or 'No *nix? This sucks' or whatever other equivalent you can pull out of Slashdot's archives.

      I agree, to some extent. It always annoys me when people complain about free software, as if they had some right to it. It is a gift. Complaining about something that was given to you is pretty lame, indeed.

      However, the lack of a GNU/Linux version is very frustrating, so I also understand the feeling. See, I do not have a Windows machine. I do have valid reasons (at least valid and important to me) for not having one, so I do not even intend to get one in the foreseeable future. So I will not be able to run this software, when otherwise I would be all over it.

      This is my choice, of course, so I am not complaining. It is just very frustrating.

      Even if there isn't a linux port, you shouldn't be complaining because someone has to take the time to code all that - are you willing to go put in the time and do that work?

      I am certain that many people here would gladly "take the time to code all that", for free even, if they only could. But this is not an open source app, so that is not possible.

      Come to think about it, this could make a great project. GPL'ed clone of Google Earth, anyone?

  33. Re:Nerfed! by seti32 · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you look at the product comparison on the Google Earth website it says that the measure area feature is in Google Earth Pro. http://earth.google.com/product_comparison.html

  34. Re:examples of 3D buildings? by ExampleUserAccount · · Score: 2, Informative

    3D Buildings are simple grey projections of major city buildings overlayed on the city map. They don't look great yet, but they are fun.

    I found Vegas by accident and compiled this list from previous answers.

    Las Vegas
    New York
    San Francisco
    Boston
    Cleveland
    Denver
    Atlanta

    From Google:
    Google Earth has 3D buildings listed in a number of major US cities including Boston, MA; Cleveland, OH; and Washington, D.C. to name a few. To view these:

    1. Turn on the 3D building layer by selecting the check box in the dashboard.

    2. Position the viewer within a reasonable viewing altitude over a major city such as San Francisco. The 3D buildings start to appear from an eye-elevation of 10-12,000 feet. Check the eye-elevation meter on the lower right of the 3D viewer to determine your current viewing height. The 3D buildings appear as light grey objects over the imagery of the city. As you zoom in, more details will appear until you can see the entire shape of a building.

    3. Use the tilt and rotate tools to get the best view of the buildings.

  35. Google kinda made it worse.. by vhold · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was a Keyhole subscriber for a little over a year before google bought them.

    As nice of an improvement the Google Earth software is, overall the product has become worse since google bought it.

    The overall resolution has been decreased from many covered areas and super high-res areas have been removed entirely.

    You used to be able to clearly make out the exact shapes of cars in the SF Bay Area, now they are blurry colored blobs. In the super high res areas, you could pretty much identify the model of most cars and sometimes even make out individual people.

    If you are a long time subscriber like me, google placates you with an option to login to the 'legacy' database.. but if you are new.. no dice.

    Doesn't that seem strange? I really hope they reintegrate the higher res data, it is profoundly better.

    I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt that when they increased their coverage area they had technical issues with the highest res data, but it's been awhile now and they havn't changed their stance of "Oh.. umm yea..login to legacy.." since the new primary database came out.. so I'm fairly worried.

    1. Re:Google kinda made it worse.. by theqmann · · Score: 5, Informative

      They ended up changing their map supplier contracts around when Google bought em out. They now use the google map database (DigitalGlobe) instead of their older hi-res database (AirPhoto) which was negotiated with the Keyhole corporation. -QMan

  36. A Fun Trick with Google Earth by ubergoober · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Download Stellarium at http://stellarium.sourceforge.net/ and you can pull up our night skies, only thing you need is your Lat/Long and a form of reference (conveniently provided by Earth) to get your bearings. Select an appropriate remote location in G-earth away from city lights and voila, instant geeky-but-still romantic date. Just add wine and an appreciation for the starry nights.

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  37. Flight Simulator by josh_freeman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Was I the only one that thought a flight simulator + google Earth = hours and hours of fun?

    1. Re:Flight Simulator by Andy+Gardner · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, but I did think how GoogleEarth + Orbiter would = wow!

  38. Camping by freeweed · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Speaking of which, for those of us into climbing/hiking, for most of the Canadian Rockies (Three Sisters in Canmore is included as a default sightseeing point, yay!) the resolution and elevation are sufficient to get a general idea of what you're heading into. I've pored over topo maps and the like, but you never get the sense of what you're getting into.

    I've used the tilt/rotate and careful zooming on some of the areas I've been this summer so far, and it's positively creepy. Having satellite textures mapped onto elevation data is the next best thing.

    I've already poked around a few backcountry places that maps don't as show much fun, but the Keyhole data is veeeery promising. There's one block a bit north of Lake Louise that is VERY highly detailed for backcountry, looks like fun!

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  39. Crime Stats by celephaix · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Anyone having any luck with the crime statistics? I was kind of interested to see the crime stats in my area, but nothing's coming up when I click on the checkbox. (And I *know* there is crime around here.)

  40. Plus Just Prettier? I don't think so... by lullabud · · Score: 2, Informative
    except for a $20/year "plus" versions with prettier pictures
    Uh, yeah, that and the ability to communicate with external GPS receivers to manage waypoints and track logs, which is a HUGE plus for those of us who like to get out and explore the earth in meatspace. Also, there is currently no good software to do this on the Mac, and although Google Earth doesn't currently support Mac, the site does say that they are working on it, which is an even bigger bonus for me since that's one of the only reason's I use a PC outside of work. I had e-mailed Keyhole before Google bought them and they said they weren't planning on making a Mac version... Thank God that Google bought them and is setting that right. I'll definitely pay for the plus version when it comes out for Mac.
  41. Dear Linux users... by alex_ware · · Score: 3, Informative

    seeing as so many of you have started threads there is no main one to post this to, look at the screenshot. There IS A LINUX VERSION.

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  42. Re:Mod parent up informative... by theqmann · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would think that Google could get similar high res data from DigitalGlobe, or to establish new relationships with AirPhoto for the old high res data. I remember reading on their forums, http://bbs.keyhole.com/, that they were comitted to reinstating the old high res data. -QMan

  43. Re:Terrorism??? by Moofie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "OK, tell that to the families of more than 3000 people who died on 9/11"

    Gladly. They've got more chance of being eaten by a shark than killed by a terrorist.

    "People need to be more alert"

    And report on their neighbors for being subversives. What a wonderful society we'd have then!

    "I think people who aren't worried about it are pretty naive."

    I think people who are more worried about terrorism than they are about driving to work don't have very good threat assessment skills.

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  44. when running google earth in vmware by e**(i+pi)-1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Google earth is fantastic. It worked very well for me with vmware workstation 5.0 under linux. I had to select OpenGL at the startup of liveearth. When selecting Divx, liveearth will lock up terribly under vmware and you need to do remove the program and and reinstall to get rid of the broken cache. Here is a screenshotfrom the building I work in.

  45. Now to combine them, new CNN? by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now, when Google decides to combine the two, with links to the Google personalized homepage news... will this become the new CNN? Fire in your home state? Just load up Google Earth, search news inside your state, double click fire, go to location, and click on icon to bring up list of pre-recorded and currently streaming video of the site. (And maybe with Google's new payment system, make small micropayments to whoever is doing the video/audio that you are watching.)

    Next big thing in Google Adsense... amature video journalism.

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  46. Re:Terrorism??? by RichardX · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OK, tell that to the families of more than 3000 people who died on 9/11. People need to be more alert, it is not paranoia to be worried about the international terrorist threat and I think people who aren't worried about it are pretty naive.

    I wonder, perchance, if you've considered why it's commonly referred to as "9/11" or "September the eleventh two thousand and one"?

    It's because that's when it happened. The only time it has ever happened.
    Yes, it was a tragedy, and a crime against humanity, and a spectacular and shocking event. but in the overall scale of things.. well.. it was no big deal, quite frankly.

    In the last 5 years - actually, in the whole of history - just over 3000 people have been killed by Al Qaeda militants on the US mainland, all on 9/11 in a single coordinated attack. It hasn't happened since, and despite plenty of fear mongering, there hasn't been any credible evidence to suggest that it could either.

    In the year 2001 ALONE there were 42,443 deaths on the US mainland due to road traffic accidents. Similar figures have occurred every year since, bringing a rough total of 210,000 deaths. I'm guessing, given your propensity to worry about terrorist attack that you'd never do something so insanely reckless and suicidal as to drive a vehicle?

    Of course, even US road deaths pale in comparison to the 250,000-and-still-rising deathtoll which resulted from the boxing day tsunami in the Indian Ocean.

    And let's not forget the 972 US citizens who have been killed on US soil by.... the US Government, since 1976. Sure, they might be criminals (At least, you'd better hope they are!) but who says some of the people in the Twin Towers weren't?

    Never mind though. So long as you can convince yourself that the sky is falling and there are terrorists lurking in every doorway and around every corner, I'm sure things will be just hunky dory. Who needs civil liberties anyways?

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  47. Re:examples of 3D buildings? by TapeCutter · · Score: 2, Funny

    I guess a 2D building would be called a flat!

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  48. Re:Security Risk - madlibs! by LordEd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Pick a technology and its benefit:

    Technology: the wheel
    Benefit: mobility

    This makes me wonder if the US government would see inventing the wheel as a security risk as it gives such mobility that terrorists could use against them. It wouldn't surprise me if the wheel gets shut down for that reason.

    Technology: the Internet
    Benefit: gathering information

    This makes me wonder if the US government would see the Internet as a security risk as it gives such easy access to gathering information that terrorists could use against them. It wouldn't surprise me if the Internet gets shut down for that reason.

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  49. GE Downloads closed - Mirrors available by Phrak · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google have closed their downloads for Earth.
    See http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4659.html for mirrors.
    Not sure which version is the latest, but MajorGeeks have "Google Earth 3.0.0336 Beta"