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Alex, The Brainy Parrot Who Knows About Zero

Roland Piquepaille writes "Alex is a 28-year-old grey parrot who lives in a lab at Brandeis University in Waltham, Mass., and can count, identify objects, shapes, colors and materials. And now, Alex has grasped the concept of zero, according to World Science. In fact, Alex can describe the absence of a numerical quantity on a tray containing colored cubes. When a color is missing, Alex consistently identified this 'zero quantity' by saying the label 'none.' You might think that this is just a parrot trick, but this research about 'bird intelligence' might also help autistic and other learning-disabled children 'who have trouble learning language and counting skills.' This overview contains other details, references and a picture of Alex counting his colored cubes."

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  1. zero by DerKwisatzHaderach · · Score: 5, Funny

    zeroth post!

    1. Re:zero by Cyberax · · Score: 3, Funny

      This parrot can be a good C programmer! Maybe even better than those chimps.

    2. Re:zero by Compholio · · Score: 5, Funny

      zeroth post!

      So does that mean the parrot has you beat since he understands the concept of zero and you don't? ;)

    3. Re:zero by seanmeister · · Score: 4, Funny

      I suppose you'll be wanting a cracker now?

    4. Re:zero by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      yay, a parrot who knows nothing!!!.

    5. Re:zero by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 2, Funny
      Dammit. My job's been outsourced to a parrot! And the pay is just birdseed!

      In other news, chimps are learning .NET

    6. Re:zero by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      chimps are learning .NET? Dude, they invented it!

  2. Bah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I bet you'd all go ga-ga if they got a parrot to realize the concept of complex numbers too! Let me know when a parrot comes up with the concept of sedenions, and then I'll be moderately impressed (-;

    PS. Slashdot editors, please use your formidable editing powers (and what a rich history of fine editing you have!) to stop advertising Piquepaille's weblog.

    PPS. For your general amusement, here's an amusing article from The Onion.

  3. Alex the Brainy Parrot says.. by rylin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Alex The Brainy Parrot says:
    Roland Piquepaaaaaaaille went from <none> to $500 in three minutes.

  4. Polly... by CountDoodu · · Score: 2, Funny

    Instead of polly want a cracker, maybe we will start saying polly want to do a math problem?

    1. Re:Polly... by TRS80NT · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh, I get it. polly-nomials!

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  5. That's not new... by tbuckner · · Score: 5, Funny

    What about that raven which understood the concept of 'nevermore'?

  6. Re:Hubris by iamzack · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope you're not a member of PETA, unless it's the People for Eating Tastey Animals variety.

  7. To summarize... by iamdrscience · · Score: 4, Funny

    Modern science = Stupid parrot tricks

    I always knew David Lettermen was onto something with stupid pet tricks, I'm surprised he never got a grant.

  8. He's Not Counting by DanielMarkham · · Score: 4, Funny

    He's pining for the fjords

  9. Brainy Holand Piquepaille grasps concept of $0 by koreaman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Scientists have reported today that Holand Piquepaille, perennial Slashdot whore and troll, has finally grasped the concept of $0.

    "It's amazing", reported one scientist. "Although usually it takes human-level intelligence to grasp the concept of submitting news articles without any chance for a monetary return, we were able to teach the concept to Holand Piquepaille."

    Unfortunately, the results are not yet conclusive, and it remains to be seen whether or not Holand Piquepaille will return all the money he duped out of people for looking at primidi.com. Scientists are hopeful, but note, "This is the first time that this concept has ever been documented in this particular species of whore, so we still need lots more evidence for the data to be conclusive."

    Another researcher pointed out: "Holand has demonstrated the concept of $0, but we're not sure if he's grasped what he wanted him to, or if he's just hit on related themes like 'The amount of value my posts add to Slashdot'."

    Scientists hope that further research will prove that Holand is destined to lead a life of future altruism. Keep your hopes up!

  10. Yeah, but can it do negatives? by ettlz · · Score: 4, Funny

    A parrot that counts 0 blue blocks is all fine and dandy. But can he count --3 red balls? Or 5i yellow chips?

    See, you're not so smart are you, eh, bird-brain?

    1. Re:Yeah, but can it do negatives? by Petrushka · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can you? Go on, count to 5i.

  11. Alex probably knows the Holy Grail.. by Man+in+Spandex · · Score: 4, Funny

    Professor: Alex, tell me what color 4?
    Alex: Blue, no Yelllllllllloooooooooooooooowww

  12. Dumb Roland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    In fact, Alex can describe the absence of a numerical quantity on a tray containing colored cubes. When a color is missing, Alex consistently identified this 'zero quantity' by saying the label 'none.'

    Newsflash: Roland Piquepaille is dumber than a parrot!

    Zero is not the absence of a numerical quantity. Zero is a numerical quantity. The absence of a numerical quantity is when you don't know how much there is of something.

    It's like the difference between 0 and NULL in a database. This parrot is smarter than both Roland Piquepaille and MySQL developers.

  13. Obligatory... by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Funny

    But does the parrot run linu...uh, nevermind...

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  14. Re:Very Intelligent by WAG24601G · · Score: 5, Funny
    My relatives have a african grey parrot and they are in fact really smart. They even seem to answer your questions (and complete sentences or phrases). Only thing is that they bite real hard so you might want to keep a distance while talking/playing with them.

    I generally avoid relatives who bite while talking/playing. But, um, congratulations on their discovery of grammar!

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  15. Re:Very Intelligent by MisaDaBinksX4evah · · Score: 4, Funny

    My relatives have a african grey parrot and they are in fact really smart. They even seem to answer your questions (and complete sentences or phrases). Only thing is that they bite real hard so you might want to keep a distance while talking/playing with them.

    Yeah, my relatives are the same way.

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  16. Arrr! Pirate parrots by payndz · · Score: 2, Funny
    Great. Next thing, they're going to be squawking "Fractions of eight!"

    Doesn't anyone realise these creatures are only an opposable thumb away from slaughtering us in our beds? Stop teaching them stuff!

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    You must think in Russian.
  17. Bah, that's nothing. by btarval · · Score: 3, Funny

    The majority of PHBs that I know consider themselves quite brainy - and they know zero as well.

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  18. More important than "none" by ta+ma+de · · Score: 2, Funny

    Alex has mastered the art of being a "smart ass"

  19. Veruca Salt by PhotoBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Daddy I want a Parrot that knows about zero!

  20. Re:Hubris... Yes... by HybridST · · Score: 5, Funny

    "And I for one welcome our new feline masters...

    You missspelled 'avian'."

    You misspelled "misspelled"...

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  21. Re:Ravens put chimps to shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    > It'd be fascinating to see how they develop over the next two or three million years.

    Yes. I'd like, too.

  22. and the parrot replies... by TapeCutter · · Score: 2, Funny

    But can he count --3 red balls?

    Parrot: "Let's jump off a skyscraper while I'm counting your balls."

    See, you're not so smart are you, eh, bird-brain?

    Parrot: "Smart enough to be able to shit on your head and not a damm thing you can do about it."

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  23. No big deal by Brandybuck · · Score: 2, Funny

    No big deal. My cat knows the concept of zero too. And she lets me know that every time her food dish has zero kibbles in it.

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  24. Re:Hubris by mooingyak · · Score: 2, Funny

    You make it sound like you think it's wrong to eat people!

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  25. Re:Hubris... Yes... by cyberwiz01 · · Score: 2, Funny
    And I for one welcome our new feline masters...

    You also misspelled 'overlords'

  26. NULL by TuataraShoes · · Score: 2, Funny


    Now if he can just grasp the concept of NULL, he can do SQL.

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    1. Re:NULL by Dwonis · · Score: 2, Funny

      Does *anyone* fully grasp the concept of SQL's NULL? ;)

  27. Re:Hubris... Yes... by theTerribleRobbo · · Score: 2, Funny
    You missspelled 'avian'."
    You misspelled "misspelled"...

    You misspelt "misspelt"...

    Go ahead, mod me troll. :P