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Battlestar Galactica Season 2 Premiere

fanblade writes "As if slashdotters needed another reason to stay home on a Friday night, the 20-episode second season of Battlestar Galactica premieres tonight at 10/9C on the Sci Fi Channel. The series, a 're-imagining' of the original 1978 TV series by the same name, made history as the highest-rated original Sci Fi Channel program ever. The first episode of the second season, 'Scattered', won't be televised in the UK until October, but I seriously doubt that will be a problem for the show that 'killed broadcast TV'. There's also excellent coverage on Wikipedia for those eager to brush up or catch up on the first season."

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  1. Also Stargate SG1 & Atlantis! by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Informative
    Don't forget to tune in at 8/7C for the start of Stargate SG1 and Atlantis as well! SciFi is running THREE FULL HOURS of rockin' new shows today! From their site:
    08:00 PM STARGATE SG-1 (SEASON 9) AVALON - PT 1
    09:00 PM STARGATE ATLANTIS (SEASON 2) THE SIEGE - PT 3
    10:00 PM BATTLESTAR GALACTICA (SEASON 2) SCATTERED
    And if you miss it the first time, you can tune in immediately afterwards to catch the same linup again!
    11:00 PM STARGATE SG-1 (SEASON 9) AVALON - PT 1
    12:00 AM STARGATE ATLANTIS (SEASON 2) THE SIEGE - PT 3
    01:00 AM BATTLESTAR GALACTICA (SEASON 2) SCATTERED
    My only question is, what's up with the Friday slots? Aren't those slots where shows usually die?
    1. Re:Also Stargate SG1 & Atlantis! by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 3, Insightful
      My only question is, what's up with the Friday slots? Aren't those slots where shows usually die?

      I think it depends on the demographic you are after. I don't think they are shooting for 18-24 year partiers;-)

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    2. Re:Also Stargate SG1 & Atlantis! by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Atlantis sucks...
      the acting is on par with B-movies like "The Toxic Avenger"


      Are you kidding me? How can you not like Dr. McKay or Dr. Zilenka(sp?)? Especially when McKay gets on Sheppard's case about playing "Captain Kirk" with the alien ladies? Or when Zilenka gives his whole speech (in Polish, no less!) about Atlantis rising from the deep? ("You didn't say anything classified, did you?" ... "Classified?")

      Atlantis is great entertainment! Sure, it's not a gritty drama like BSG, but that's okay. Too much drama makes one depressed and boring. Try enjoying the lighter side of entertainment every once in awhile. :-)

    3. Re:Also Stargate SG1 & Atlantis! by angrist · · Score: 4, Funny

      It works out great for me at school:

      8:00 - SG-1 starts, sit down and crack a beer
      8:30 - Commercials, order delivery for diner (mmmm dumplings), beer #2
      9:00 - Atlantis starts, food arrives, beer #3
      10:00 - BSG starts, throw leftovers in fridge, beer #4
      10:30 - Commercials, change into 'outside' clothes / brush teeth, etc. beer #5
      11:00 - Sci-Fi friday over, full stomach, nice buzz, ready to hit the town

      All in all it's not a bad routine for a friday, not that much in the party scene at school gets going before 10:30 - 11 anyway.

    4. Re:Also Stargate SG1 & Atlantis! by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 4, Funny

      That depends. Is your fiancee a robot?

      And if so, does she use her powers for good or for awesome?

    5. Re:Also Stargate SG1 & Atlantis! by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I watched the first Star Wars movie too, and maybe I caught a bad 5 minutes, but the space ships that fly like airplanes was really thick pseudoscience.

      (never mind that the story doesn't depend on how the spaceships move).

      Give BSG a chance. It's the best SciFi that I've seen this DECADE.

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    6. Re:Also Stargate SG1 & Atlantis! by PreviouslySeen · · Score: 3, Informative

      11:00 - Sci-Fi friday over, full stomach, nice buzz, ready to hit the town

      Sounds like an ideal evening. However, at my age, I substitute "bed" for "town", and add "If I can get the toddlers to bed before 8 at the beginning". :)

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    7. Re:Also Stargate SG1 & Atlantis! by millahtime · · Score: 3, Funny

      Geeks don't have social lives and tend to stay in and watch these shows. I am one of them :-)

    8. Re:Also Stargate SG1 & Atlantis! by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 3, Insightful

      NO, the plot of the episode was mainly about Sharon wrestling with the realization that she might be a Cylon, and that she might have bombed the Galactica. It's also about the Sharon #2 back on Caprica going back for Helo. Both are clearly Cylons, but the viewer is quite in the dark about why Cylons are doing altruistic things, and displaying evidence of conscience.

      Oh, and by the way, they're thirsty too.

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    9. Re:Also Stargate SG1 & Atlantis! by fimbulvetr · · Score: 3, Informative

      Could it be argued that they were looking for water in mass quantities, and they needed it soon?
      They had about 50,000 people that needed water. I don't disagree that water is common, and it could have been manufactured, but is harnessing some water from, say, one comet going to be enough for the 50,000 to replace their tanks of 60% they lost.

      To quote TFS:
      "Baltar: I've calculated that the rate of consumption regarding basic foodstuffs for the civilian population, this is based on information available to me at the time. The current civilian population of 45,265 will require, at minimum, 82 tons of grain, 85 tons of meat, 119 tons of fruit, 304 tons of vegetables and... 2.5 million jps of water."

      According to TFS, that's per week. Galactica lost 10million jps from the explosion. I don't think comets or even manufacturing could have cured the thirst.

      P.S. I don't know what a jps is, or even if it's a real term. I assume it's fake and that it's roughly equivalent to a gallon.

    10. Re:Also Stargate SG1 & Atlantis! by hazem · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, you have to remember, this is a fleet of whatever ships that happened to survive, with a flagship that was about to be retired. Equipment for water processing is somewhat a limited resource - note how many of the ships relied on Galactica for water replenishment.

      So, sure, water in some form is abundant in space/planets, etc. But they need water "now", and probably dont' have facilities to collect hydrogen/oxygen to make water, or to do a "moisture vaporator thing" - they had to support some 45,000 people - they had to get it fast, and worry about being caught by cylons on top of all that.

      Hell... the colonel was upset that the water they found was salty - aparently they couldn't deal with even that.

      So now you're on a search for potable water - and that has to be much more rare than water in any form. And it has to be in large quantities - and somewhat accessible in a quick manner.

      I mean, imagine you're just 100 people, crashed in eastern Afghanistan, and you're being hunted by Taliban. Oh yeah, and you don't have enough water to get anywhere. So, sure, you could set up all kinds of ways to collect water - even in an erid environment. But, few of those will lend themselves well to being on the run and resource-poor.

      It's really not that much of a stretch.

    11. Re:Also Stargate SG1 & Atlantis! by captain_craptacular · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I know you're on a rant and I hate to slow you down but I'll try anyway. The galactica uses old fashioned phones with wires quite on purpose as a low tech but highly effective answer to technological warfare. It's much much harder to jam/intercept/alter a signal that runs through a shielded wire than one that transmits via radio wave. I bet if you go look at a modern navy vessel it will also use hard wired communications onboard ship.

      Second, about the water. I hear what you're saying about water being plentiful, but there are any number of reasons why a large, relatively pure liquid body of fresh water is imensely preferable to what you'd find in asteroids etc... For one, it's one stop shopping. They don't have to spend precious time which they have none of to locate and mine H2O from a myriad of astral bodies. They don't have to mine squat actualy, just drop a hose and suck. It's very concievable that they didn't have the facilities avalable to extract H2O from any but the most simple source.
      Think of it this way: When people first started extracting oil from the ground they looked for shallow sources of "clean" low sulphur low byproduct oil. Because the technology wasn't available to locate, extract, and refine anything else. Today they can drill miles vertically and horizontally and modern refineries can extra useable product from the nastiest of crude. The same can be said for water. Without sophisticated extraction and filtering equipment we wouldn't be able to use a large % of the water we use now because it's located miles underground in aquifers and needs to be cleaned by high-tech ultra efficient filtration systems. Now imagine that Galactica didn't get lucky enough to rescue a Britta(TM) FilterShip(TM) when they were running from the cylons in the first episode...

      In other words, they needed easy water because they hadn't the time or the equipment to deal with the hard water...

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  2. The classics preventing innovation? by CyricZ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Lately there has a been a resurgence of classic sci-fi shows, such as this and Dr Who. While it is great to see younger audiences exposed to such fantastic television programming, I have to wonder what effect this will have on new sci-fi shows. Will we just keep rehashing the old (but classig and very good) series, or will new ideas and new series be able to develop? Will enough resources be spent by the networks and studios to promote the creation of new series, rather than just cloning the previous ones?

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    1. Re:The classics preventing innovation? by Wubby · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I generally agree your point about rehashing old shows into todays fodder, and not just scifi. Movies can't seem to come up with anything new either.

      BUT (huge but)

      This show is the exception. After watching this, seeing the old show would be like watching a disney version of "A Clockwork Orange". The new BSG is so much more than the old show. I'm sorry, Glen Larsen had great ideas, but the production never lived up. This is how the show should have been done from the beginning! Dramatic, epic, lots of intrigue and suspense.

      And I don't think Dr. Who is a remake. More of a continuation. There have been, like, a bajillion of those guys. I think the BBC just took it out of mothballs and brushed it off. Kinda like what "Enterprise" was to "Star Trek".

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    2. Re:The classics preventing innovation? by xstonedogx · · Score: 5, Funny

      don't know what I will do without Richard Dean Anderson's (Jack O'Neil) comedy :-(

      It's O'Neill. Two L's.

    3. Re:The classics preventing innovation? by JWW · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Kinda like what "Enterprise" was to "Star Trek".

      Yeah, except Dr. Who doesn't suck.

  3. Favorite complaint by Magnusite · · Score: 5, Funny
    My favorite complaint about the series (I haven't seen it) came from a friend of mine the other day.

    "Starbuck is supposed to be a womanizing man, not a womanizing woman!

    1. Re:Favorite complaint by angrist · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Starbuck is supposed to be a womanizing man, not a womanizing woman!

      The problem with that change being .... ?

    2. Re:Favorite complaint by WAR-Ink · · Score: 3, Funny

      I am firmly in favor of equal rights. We should not discriminate due to race, gender or sexual preference. You should be more open minded.

      I also believe in our right to watch it on film.

      Maybe with that blonde Cylon chick...yeah...

  4. Nothing new under the sun... by Skyshadow · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Did you hear that Shakeswhatever fellow is remaking the "Tragicall Historye of Romeus and Juliet"? And that was already a remake of "Mariotto and Gianozza", fer chrissake.

    I wish these London playhouses would spend enough resources to bring in some truly creative people and get some new ideas rather than just rehashing the same old stories over and over and over again. I mean, really, how many more beatings can this dead horse really take?

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  5. Tape Atlantis, so you can skip the bad parts by FirstNoel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Atlantis is much better if you don't have to sit through all the dreadful acting. You can usually cut out half a show or more and still get the general idea of what happened.

    I'm waiting till about season 3, if the crew hasn't gelled by then it will be off my list completely.

    Sean

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    1. Re:Tape Atlantis, so you can skip the bad parts by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Had I mod points, you'd be getting one of the good ones. But the acting isn't as bad as the writing. It's just lazy most of the time. Someone comes up with a somewhat interesting plot idea, then they hand it off to someone painfully boring to write filler around it. I could write better dialogue if I hadn't slept in days.

      Also, the Wraith are the most boring bad guys ever. They're entirely, "Aargh, we're miscellaneously evil! Aaaaaargh!"

      Sadly, they occasionally spit out a pretty good episode, so I can't give up on it entirely. Also, I have nothing else to do.

  6. Podcast commentary by tycage · · Score: 5, Informative

    Also, don't forget the Podcast of commentary that is available for the episode.

  7. Friday night at 10?! by mapmaker · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's almost like they want us to download the torrent instead of tuning it to watch.

  8. Galactica 1980 by topgeek · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't wait for the "reimagining" of Galactica 1980...oh wait, yes I can.

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  9. Who Cares? by eno2001 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I Won't be happy until I see the new series of Doctor Who premiered in the U.S. Canadians are lucky because they've already seen Doctor Who 2005 series 1 and they're slated for series 2 as well. We have to suffer the crap that our networks spew at us and SciFi is certainly no saviour. They program the worst SciFi (all action masquerading as science fiction) I've ever seen in my life. I mean, come on!!! Mansquito? Give me a f*cking break! Where is the thinking man's SciFi channel? I'm sick of all these macho programs that SciFI puts on claiming to be science fiction. Science fiction is not about wars, and guns and action. It's about using your mind and technology to solve problems in a world that is almost but not entirely like your own. Philip K. Dick did the best science fiction and SciFi repeatedly shits all over his stuff.

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  10. vivid memory of childhood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That night in 1978 that Battlestar Glactica premired, they were showing the movie King Kong on another network. It was a very big night for tv when I was kid. But then disaster struck:

    They interrupted both shows because Isreal and Egypt were signing a peace agreement. And my mom sent me to bed.

    Egypt and Isreal had been fighting for hundreds of years... couldn't they have waited one more day? Think of the children.

  11. Wikipedia Page Trashed by excyl · · Score: 4, Interesting
    /. flamebait have already trashed the wikipedia page linked in the news post. It now contains an attempt to spoil the latest Harry Potter book for those that care.

    Maybe we should try locking any wikipedia pages before actually releasing the news post into the /. wild?

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  12. The Weapons are realistic by dmh20002 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One thing I really like about BSG is that the weapons are realistic and the visual effects are outstanding. The missile salvos are really really cool. Unlike Star Trek, Star Wars and SG-1, the BSG folks use guided weapons. In those other shows, in the future, the engineers have forgotten how to make guided or tracking weapons. They just shoot stuff randomly and most of the time they miss. The Stargate Atlantis finale from last season was a prime example. The marines show up with 'rail guns' that they are so fracking proud of. But then they just spray out into space with no radar tracking or anything else, hitting nothing. Jesus, a 20th century Phalanx is way better than the crap they have.

    Oh, Babylon 5 was one of the few good ones also. The way they tracked the beam weapons and sliced things up was believable and cool.

  13. Galactica is a bit better (SPOILER-Season 1) by katharsis83 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I actually prefer it this way.

    I've watched some Stargate Atlantis, but could never stick with it. There's no moral ambiguity in the show; the main character, the Colonel, responds to everything with a clear-cut moral choice. Everything has to be done based on principle - no compromise with reality, and it always seems to work out in their favor.

    Battlestar Galactica portrays things in a much more "gray" way, forcing characters to make terrible choices where there's no morally superior answer (i.e. in "33" when they blow up the Olympic Carrier). This, mixed in with the Cylons looking like humans, feeling like humans, makes the entire of the show even more amigious, which is what sets it apart from most of the other shows on TV. There's no clear cut enemy - no clear "us" and "them," and thus, much more realistic. Even with the advanced technology/sci-fi nature of the show, it manages to portray human behavior/moral dilemmas much more realistically than the mainstream shows set in the present time on Earth.

    I'll paraphrase a quote I heard from somewhere, "I'd rather watch plausible human behavior in an implausible setting than watch implausible human behavior in a plausible setting."

  14. Re:Friday's are throw away slots by maxpublic · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't make me pick between galactica and CSI, that would kill me to have to chose only one or the other.

    Good geeks know of this mystical device called "the VCR", which can record one show while you watch another. In fact, just about everyone knows about the mighty VCR, and owns one to boot!

    But even better geeks know of "BitTorrent", for those times when you forget to set the VCR. Or for catching up on shows that you didn't clue in on until the second or third season. This is how my wife and I got up to speed on West Wing, Alias, and yes - even CSI! Without BitTorrent to provide the seasons we'd missed (not big TV fans) we'd never have watched the shows on regular TV. We hate jumping into shows mid-stream.

    Of course, we didn't bother with BitTorrent until BSG aired in Britain. That was the straw that broke the camel's back for us. But once we took the leap...well, there's really no going back. We watch more TV now than we have in decades. If we happen to miss an episode, so what? We can always catch it with a download and be on track again before the next week's episode airs.

    No doubt the network goons will soon be kicking in my door for these public admissions. It won't matter that we watch MORE TV now, only that we've used BitTorrent in acts of "piracy"....

    Max

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  15. Re:Is it on in Canada??? by BrianMertens · · Score: 3, Informative

    Good news, everyone! BSG Season 2 will be on in Canada, starting January 14th, 2006.

    That'll be just fine, as long as everyone on the internet promises not to talk about BSG on any forum or blog until then... okay?

    Arrgh. I think BitTorrent is about to become much more popular in Canada.

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  16. Re:Proof there is life after ST- DS9 etc. by ak_hepcat · · Score: 3, Informative

    (sorry, voice work isn't acting)

    Uh, as an actor who has done TV, movies, and radio, let me tell you that the people who do voice-only work _well_ are definately acting.

    In fact, they're often far better than people who don't do VO work. why? because the people who do it are used to telling the entire story, and showing the entire range of the character with... get this! ... _just their voice_.

    Hard to believe, but it's true!

    Just ask some real actors...

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  17. A Note to the "I HATE BSG" Crowd... by MrMagooAZ · · Score: 3, Informative

    Many of the more thoughtful notes that come under the heading of 'I hate BSG because...' seem to revolve around issues of not understanding certain basic concepts that were laid out in the mini-series. THE MINI-SERIES IS REQUIRED VIEWING! If you're willing to give it another shot, check out the mini-series on DVD first. It explains a lot of things. Also know that this is really complex TV. Some episodes leave me mentally exhasting when I think of the things they are talking about and how they relate to today's world. If you are looking to be spoon-fed, you might want to go elsewhere.