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Half-Life 3 on the XBox 360?
BizidyDizidy writes "According to a slide taken from a spanish XBox 360 presentation, Half-Life 3 will be developed for the new system. Could this be the Halo of the next generation? Combining this with the reported 300 dollar price point and early release date, a rosy picture for XBox seems to emerge. Is a killer-app like HL3 enough to sway you to choose a system?"
HL3 on the XBox 360 only helps if it's exclusive or relatively far in advance of the PC Release of the same game.
Being a hardcore HL player for years, as well as a PC only gamer, this would dissapoint me quite a bit if it was not released on the PC as well.
As long as it comes out for PC, I'm happy.
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... And Valve would throw away all its modders?
It's highly likely that a Half-Life 3 would be ported to at least one console, like with the first two games, but a successful PC game developer chucking away modders, its Steam distribution platform, audience etc.? Hmm...
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Sure, HL3 is reason enough to grab a system........ whenever HL3 comes out, anyway. (2 years? 5 years?)
I mean, imagine if Super Mario 64 didn't come out for the N64 until a few years into the system's life, and you basically have the same opening launch lineup that the XBox 360 is looking at right now.
November fast approaches, Microsoft... where's your killer app?
No - I wouldn't buy an xbox just for HL3. Don't get me wrong, HL2 was good - but by no means a killer app nor has it the swaying power to make me get a single console over another...
Halo was the killer-app for me for xbox 1. Problem was, at the time, I thought there was enough on the xbox to keep me in gaming bliss for a while. Turns out there wasn't, and then my system started to crap out on me(dvd drive isn't reading right anymore), basically leaving me with not only a few games I can't play elsewhere, but I system I almost wish I hadn't gotten.
Prior experience with the xbox will shy me away from buying the xbox 360, but even still, at the time, Halo was enough to get me to buy. I'm sure, Halo 3 will be enough for many people to buy, and if they have HL 3, then it's a whole set of 3's for Microsoft, and they'll get their numbers, with or without me.
I'd buy an Xbox360 for HL 3 if a variety of conditions were met, and I doubt they will be:
1. HL 3 will have to be good (this is probably the easiest condition to meet. Say what you will about Valve, they know how to make a great single player FPS).
2. XBox 360 will have to support usb keyboards and mice. I'm not going to bother with an undersized, overpriced, semi-functional, half-supported pseudo-keyboard/mouse combo. FPSes simply aren't nearly as enjoyable without this method of control (at least not fo me).
3. HL 3 will have to require a significant PC upgrade for me. If it doesn't, then I'll simply get the PC version.
4. Some kind of mod compatibility. This is the most difficult of my requirements, obviously, and I doubt it will happen. But I also don't think 2 or 3 are all that likely.
All in all, I don't think a game not designed for the console's native control scheme is going to be much of a 'killer app'. After all, it's the mods that made the HL series truely great, and I don't see MS supporting the community...
I still expect to get my XB360 pre-order in, if they don't sell out. HL3 is just icing on the cake. I'll pick it up when it hits the Platinum Edition el cheapo price point.....
Is a killer-app like HL3 enough to sway you to choose a system?"
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What use is a game console without any games!?!? (and this is coming from a mac user
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Wow, that's some hard-hitting journalism there. You're really going out on a limb with this one.
Usually it's single games that affect my decision. I bought an N64 back in the day just to play Zelda64. It was perhaps the only likable game I had for the system, but it was well worth what I paid for it, even if I only used the console for that one game. Next I got a PS2 in order to play the Final Fantasy games, which was mostly what I did with my SNES. I own other PS2 games, but I haven't played them as much or gotten as much enjoyment out of them.
If I can ever afford a new console, XBox 360 is fast becoming the most attractive option, but I will of course be playing the waiting game. That's what I did with my PS2, and it certainly paid off. I'm eager to see the offerings from every company.
The console that has captured most of my interest, however, is the new Gamepark handheld coming out. I haven't even finished lusting after the GP32, and already they're throwing another in my face!
Lord, I hope so. That would be awesome. That's where all those doucebag CS kids need to be anyway, either begging their parents for some expensive-ass kiddie konsole or out looking for work, not on Dad's computer looking at porn and playing Manhunt and San Andreas.
CounterStrike has the worst community of any FPS. I dare you, try to play CS:S for 5 minutes without someone insulting you ethnicity or your sexuality. It happens to me every time I get a kill. Just look at all the New Games Journalism pieces that deal directly with HL or one of it's unauthorised modifications.
CounterSteamValve (Well, that and MMOs) is a cancer on the breast of online computer entertainment. It will be a good thing for all those kids to get off the computer. Maybe they can go outside and mow some grass, and earn some money for the next gen console.
Valve would be doing a service to the entire online gaming community, and for the children of America, if they went to Xbox 360 exclusively (an AMERICAN made console BTW).
Only time will tell if gaben & company have the chutzpah to be real men and take a stand against the video games that corrupt our children and saturate our computer networks.
Hmm, maybe the Spanish translators had issues and its actually just Halo 3 being developed for the XBOX360....
Are you fucking joking?
The 360 is turning out to be a fucking joke graphically. It's only a few months before launch and MS isn't releasing real in game footage except for a fucking racing game.
Why the fuck would any pc gamer want to play HL on a gimped piece of hardware like the 360? MS better fucking not buy the title as an exclusive.
Everyone knows PC games are better automatically simply because it's much easier to play a FPS using a mouse and keyboard. Surely Valve wouldn't automatically doom my purchase (as well as many others, I'm sure) of HL3 by developing it for a console!
Since when has a Half Life ever even been an exclusive among consoles? HL1 was released on DreamCast, PS2 AND XBox. There is absolutely nothing even hinting at that Valve wants to make this an XBox exclusive. It's simply the case of the first man spilling the beans, most likely too early (it's in Spanish, right? Then most likely they don't have the best ties with Valve (you know, 'cause they speak English and all) and therefore could easily have slipped up when they were supposed to make it secret).
I would buy a 360 just for Half Life 3(that's after the game is reviewed). The thing though is that I will already have a 360 just for PGR3 and Gears of War. I don't game on my computer. I do everything but game on it. Though playing GBA games doesn't count.:dodgy:
Good lord, the cranky, high-expectation folks awkake!
If the Xbox version of Half Life "3" was merely an uber-optimized version of HL2 made to run on my Hi-Def TV (let's face my jaded slashbots- that game looks AMAZING, even on midrange PCs) with new story/content and featured killer online play (including a Counterstrike of some form or another), I would be in hog heaven.
Chances are if the folks who took the time to comment here were faced with that product they'd buy it too, no matter what insane requirements they list on here.
Small correction - HL1 was not released for Xbox (although Counterstrike, possible a version identical to source, was).
"Is a killer-app like HL3 enough to sway you to choose a system?"
Not if I can't use a mouse and WASD!
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Valve is not stupid enough to abandon Steam. Steam is their vision and plan for the future, without HL3 they would lose a lot of money. Obviously Valve is very close to MS with Gabe Newell being a former employee and all, so perhaps we'll something like HL3 being exclusive to the Xbox360, among the consoles only.
HL1 also wasn't released for the DC, though they ported it (but didn't finish debugging) and you can find an almost-entirely-working version (including Blue Shift) on various P2P services.
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This simply won't happen. It would take Valve YEARS to develop a sequel to HL2. It is taking them well over a year to develop Lost Coast. Moreover, still under development is TFC2 and CS2. More likely is that HL2 will be ported to the 360 rather than the XBox so that no loss of quality (other than controls) is necessary (see Doom3 for example of quality loss). Unless the XBox 360 will be able to run Steam I highly doubt HL3 will be released for it anytime near the PC release.
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My answer is no. I waited till November of 2004 to get my first X-Box. I was able to buy it new for $180 and got four games and a racing wheel from a Toys'R'Us sale. I'll wait a few years until a deal like that comes around for the 360.
Did anyone actually read the slides? QWERTY keyboard? Yeah right.
Also, the one that supposedly says something related to Half-Life is too small to actually read.
This has bullshit written all over it
Is a killer app like HL3 enough to drive me to buy an XBOX 360?
No. Half Life has never been a killer app. HL2 is not either. They are both incredible games. Great stories. But I would never make a hardware purchase based on them alone.
A series of killer apps or really good games is what it would take me to buy any console. I did not buy a PS2 until recently. It now has a very solid base of very good games. I did not buy it because of any one game.
Yes, I too can not see the logic in an exclusive deal for any future versions of Half Life. But thats not the question at hand.
Bet you can guess who's not going to be an early adopter for this platform.
Enough of this price point jargon. Just say PRICE you richard craniums.
It'll come down to just how much money Microsoft is willing to dangle in front of Valve up-front for exclusivity (or at least semi-exclusivity).
Valve, of all companies, knows what a huge sales driver the mod / aftermarket community is. Just look at the record sales of Halflife 1 Game of the Year, Counterstrike, Opposing Force, Day of Defeat, etc. Packs, which basically involved NO development cost on Valve's part. These packs were either retail packaging of community created mods (Counterstrike, Day of Defeat) or low cost additional content created by third party studios. (Opposing Force). The primary impetous for purchase however was the ability to play any of the literally hundreds of other mods available free for download.
Now with Steam (admitedly forcibly) in place, Valve has a great system for distribution of other worthwhile mods and "content" packs.
I doubt seriously that Valve will be willing to dampen this revenue stream by moving to a console unless Microsoft offers them enough money to compensate.
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The list with HL3 on is a list of engines not a list of games... for example it also includes Crytek...not Far Cry
The PS3 and 360 are both going to be FPS/sports/big-name developer/licensed content consoles. They are just too expensive and lengthy to develop for. Only the big fish are going to be developing for them which means more of the same with no innovation. Who can afford to innovate when games will be moving into the 7-8 digit range in costs?
HL3 and all the FPS titles in the world are not enough to draw me and my gaming dollar.
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No. Otherwise, I would be running Windows so I could play all of the great and exciting games that come out and are never ported to my platform of choice. Maybe it is just me, but I think the idea of purchasing a piece of hardware, particularly a console, on the sole basis of a single game is insane. Wouldn't it make more sense to buy the system that is more likely to have the games that you want? Maybe even support a company that has always delivered the games that you want?
It took Valve nearly five years just to create Half-Life 2, and they still haven't even released the expansion level (Lost Coast) for that game yet. There's no concievable way they could have Half-Life 3 ready for the Xbox 360 release. Not to mention the massive investment they've made into their content delivery system Steam. This is just an incorrect rumor.
FPS games should be confined to the PC, and possibly systems that have some other way to control it, because dual analog just isn't worthy in comparison to mouse and keyboard. Too bad people don't have this common sense.
The PC version of Halo has the mouse sensitivity capped at an extremely low level, especially when you consider that at all the weapons you need accuracy with have a zoom mode.
It irritates me quite a bit, as well as leading me to think that Bungie was deliberately handicapping the non-Xbox versions so they don't handle significantly better than on the console.
YMMV of course. I generally use higher sensitivities than most people, so I bet many didn't even notice.
No 360, period. I just don't like controllers for FPS or TPS games. I have an Xbox now, and have bought several titles (and rented several more) that are not fun at all to play because of the controller. Some people can blaze away with the Xbox or other controllers, but I can't. Keyboard and mouse are simply more ergonomic for me.
If HL3 (or HL2, anything that uses Steam) was released on a console, wouldn't that be the first time crippleware was released for a console? It's not even that common on PC is it? Windows XP, Norton and HL2 are the only ones I know of personally.
Could such activation even work on a console, they all have Internet access these days, but AFAIK HL2 requires mass downloading to unbreak on first use? Does the 360 have a HDD as standard?
half-Life 3 would be a good edition to the xbox 360 line up.